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UN makes “landmark” deal on information integrity to shut up annoying denialists

By Jo Nova

Look out. Climate Denialism is a “security threat” now

As the Net Zero fantasy crumbles and the political tide shifts, the Blob has up’d the ante and pressed the red hot “security threat” button. Climate deniers are now such a mortal threat (to the sinecures of the Blobcrats) they must be contained.

As David Archibald says “When they have lost the argument, they change the rules.”

Countries seal landmark declaration at COP30—marking first time information integrity is prioritized at UN Climate Conference

Drafted in collaboration with civil society members of the Global Initiative Advisory Group, the Declaration has been endorsed by ten countries so far – Brazil, Canada, Chile, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Spain, Sweden and Uruguay. 

“Climate change is no longer a threat of the future; it is a tragedy of the present,” said President of Brazil Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva in Belém. “We live in an era in which obscurantists reject scientific evidence and attack institutions. It is time to deliver yet another defeat to denialism.”

Oh, the horrible obscurantists! Humanity will be saved, but only if governments can rule without having to answer difficult questions.

The UN must be feeling fragile because the term “denialism” is decidedly unscientific — it is the language of political and religious struggle, not of atmospheric physics.

Perhaps they’re afraid the world might recognize that the UN is a superfluous, bloodsucking freeloader?  To make themselves useful, the UN are providing an excuse for sympathetic (socialist) governments to launch information integrity commissions, or to fund “research” into misinformation online.

The new key phrase is “Information Integrity”

The Greens are the Bankers and the Bureaucrats best friend.

They couldn’t call it the Ministry of Truth again, so the new catchword of censorship is “information integrity”. The question the UN hopes you won’t ask is  “who defines integrity?” for they be the Kings.

Strangely the Australian Greens were already speaking this lingo five months ago. The new Global Initiative for Information Integrity sounds spookily similar to The Select Committee on Information Integrity that the Australian Greens set up in August.  It’s almost like the UN phoned up the Greens in July and told them what to do?

Google Trends shows that there was a sudden mysterious global interest in “information integrity” from July this year.

The UN speaks with forked tongue

Watch how the masters of wordsmithing hypnotise their victims (below). They call on governments to suppress the critics of the UN.  But the master puppeteers frame that criticism as “attacks on scientists and journalists” even though most of the critics are scientists and journalists. To anyone who is not paying attention, the UN just silently embedded the assumption that the scientists are all on their side and the critics are not scientists.

They finish by painting themselves as heroes of free speech — saying “Scientists and researchers should never fear telling the truth.”

The Declaration calls on governments, the private sector, civil society, academia and funders to take concrete action to counter the growing impact of disinformation, misinformation, denialism and deliberate attacks on environmental journalists, defenders, scientists and researchers that undermine climate action and threaten societal stability.

“We must fight mis- and disinformation, online harassment, and greenwashing,” said UN Secretary-General António Guterres in the lead-up to COP30. “Through the Global Initiative for Information Integrity on Climate Change, Governments and organizations are working together to fund research and action promoting information integrity on climate issues. Scientists and researchers should never fear telling the truth.”

Most of all, it’s just so nicey-nice. Look at the schmalzy soft photography. The UN is just a nice 25 year old women, doing nice, harmless things to help you. Sure.


The Key Commitments are pure mindless word-salada. E.g.

Under the Declaration, signatories commit to:

      • Promote the integrity of information related to climate change in line with international human rights law, including freedom of expression standards
      • Promote informed and inclusive climate action by advancing equitable access to accurate, evidence-based, understandable information for all

So the UN calls on rich countries to fund research on climate misinformation in developing countries, because those people don’t need food and electricity, they need protection from NASA astronauts and Nobel Prize winners who talk about unapproved science?

With resources falling short of needs globally, the Declaration calls on governments to ensure funds to research climate information integrity, especially in developing countries.

It is a wall of word-fakery and lies from beginning to end: those who steal your human right of free speech say they are protecting it.

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95 comments to UN makes “landmark” deal on information integrity to shut up annoying denialists

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    Honk R Smith

    F them.

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      OldOzzie

      To Quote Blazing Saddles

      We’re all indebted to Honk R Smith For clearly stating what needed to be said.

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        Honk R Smith

        Well, I am compelled to suggest, for the sake of accuracy and to be more precise, since this is a science blog, and considering the high status of the subjects in question, their advanced prestigious educations, their obvious devotion to humanitarianism, their limitless energy for the cause, and the fact they hang with Bono …
        that they F themselves.

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          Ian

          “since this is a science blog,….that they F themselves.

          Your comment personifies the very worst side of science. I’m surprised it was published

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            Not even close. The worst side of science is where medical experiments are carried out on babies and children without honesty or consent. It’s where data is hidden, harms are denied, and rich people steal money from the poor to pretend to improve the weather while they feed their failed investment portfolios. It’s where parasites fly in private jets while telling the masses to catch a bus, or pay a £12 a day tax because they drive an old car. It’s about quality of life.

            The UN wants to shut down whistleblowers that point out the grift, graft, harms, and bad science, and you try to trivialize the discussion to one F word. We will not take that bait. We are here to discuss why we must shut down the UN.

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              Honk R Smith

              “… trivialize the discussion to one F word.”

              It would appear that these stalwart titans of ‘Science’ and social morality, intend to eliminate discussion altogether.
              Which trivializes them.
              I have only responded appropriately.
              And I am about appropriateness.
              Nothing is more appropriate than poking at faux intellectual, banal, corrupt, wanton, virtue signaling priggs.

              And science is about getting to the core reality of existence.

              So, F them, and the spanking new four lane hi-way that they cut through the rainforest to ride in on.
              (Which you forgot to mention Jo.)
              There is no better soul to personify the worst of ‘Science’ than I.
              It is Jo’s commitment to truth that allows me to be the real me.
              I am grateful.

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          Helen Dyer

          Gee, the Marxists really don’t understand irony, do they????????

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      Anton

      Your comment is in the very worst of taste. Please continue to repeat it multiple times.

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    Johnny Rotten

    The UN has NO integrity. So, for them to use the word integrity is to be in breach of Universal Law which is the Law of the Universe.

    As they said in Hawaii Five O……….”Book ’em Danno”.

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    Mike Jonas

    Josef Stalin was in favour of democracy – if he counted the votes.

    This COP is in favour of freedom of evidence-based speech – if they control the evidence.

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    Dave in the States

    Indicates that they have lost the argument, scientifically, politically, and economically.

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      Bruce

      NEVER FORGET:

      The eco-nazis have NEVER been interested in polite, rational argument, backed by ACTUAL science.

      Theirs is a purely political ideology aimed at total GLOBAL POWER, nothing less

      Per Martin Niemoller:

      “First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I’m not a Jew. Then they came for the socialists, but I did nothing because I’m not a socialist. Then they came for the Catholics, but I did nothing because I’m not a Catholic. Finally, they came for me, but by then there was no one left to help me”.

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    David Maddison

    And I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that Australia is about to ban social media including information sources such as YouTube for under 16’s.

    Younger people will not be able to seek out alternative points of view on “climate change” or anything else that is not in accordance with the Official Narrative being taught at the indoctrination centres known as Australian “schools”.

    And in any case, censorship will be applied to such alternative viewpoints for all ages, no doubt including sites such as this, so that the Government can comply with UN directives. They will justify it under the “external affairs” powers of the Constitution aa in the Tasmanian Dams Case (1983).

    Notice how the Government plan is all coming together?

    First the Liberal-created e Safety Kommissar with extensive censorship powers.

    Then the Liberal proposed and Labor supported misinformation/disinformation censorship laws which fortunately failed to pass (just).

    Then the Australian Greens Select Committee on Information Integrity as Jo mentioned.

    And soon bans on social media for under 16’s which will likely soon have everyone’s (of all ages) have their social media missives attached to a digital ID so that “thought criminals” can be detected and punished through social credit scores or re-education camps.

    Now this.

    The Left won’t stop until every word you read has been carefully censored and filtered by Big Brother.

    The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. Nineteen Eighty Four

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      Destroyer D69

      The “Trojan Horse” in the progress towards a digital biometric ID for everyone in Australia over the age of 16.

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    Tim Whittle

    What if research was suggesting that CO2 levels were as high or higher 10,000 years ago? That would be a handy weapon…
    https://notrickszone.com/2025/11/16/new-study-suggests-ice-cores-are-wrong-co2-levels-were-high-in-early-holocene/

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      Sceptical Sam

      Care to expand on this (from the link)?

      It is claimed that the Earth itself has quadrupled its natural CO2 emissions since 1750 (from 166 to 210 gigatonnes of carbon per year). In comparison, the human contribution is said to be tiny, increasing from 0 to 11 gigatonnes.

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      RickWill

      That would be a handy weapon…

      Suggestions are not facts. The scoundrels would not even need to try to label this one as lacking integrity.because it is not presented as fact.

      There is a smorgasbord of factual evidence that the climate scam is just that.

      Historical accounts across human history inform us that Earth’s climate is presently in a benign period of relatively slow change compared with those accounts.

      Heat waves as recently as last century killed thousands. But nothing matches it this century.

      If CO2 did what is claimed and all the recent climate change is entirely caused by CO2 there should be a new high set somewhere on the globe every year. The last time the annual high was set was 1913. There is lots of fiddling to condemn that reading in the same manner as all the weather authorities have fiddled past temperatures to create a warming trend.

      The coldest was recorded in 1984 but recent lows have been close.

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    David Maddison

    Remember that Australia is unusually fanatically committed to concepts of globalist government, the UN, and the anthropogenic global warming scam and indeed the Leftist agenda in its entirety.

    Even if most other countries are smart enough to reject this latest madness, Australia is stupid enough to pour vast amounts of taxpayer money into it and showcase their efforts at the billion dollar plus plus COP31 in Adelaide.

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      Hivemind

      I think that the price has gone up to $2 billion. But that’s ok, any price for the taxpayer is a good thing if it allows airbus Albo and the rest of the crazies to parade in front of the true believers.

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    David Maddison

    I think that there’s no directives of the UN that Australia doesn’t comply with.

    Australia is already largely UN-governed.

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    Jeff

    Who was it said “I disagree with what you say but will defend to the death your right to say it.”

    Going, going,….

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      Johnny Rotten

      Some French bloke……………….A long time ago.

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      David Maddison

      Usually misattributed to Voltaire but actually a summation of his philosophy by Evelyn Beatrice Hall.

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        Robert Swan

        David Maddison,

        Usually misattributed to Voltaire…

        Yes, given Voltaire tended to favour French, I can well believe he never said it.

        Likewise, Descartes never said “I think therefore I am”. Exercising my nearly unique abilities with Google, it turns out that he only said je pense, donc je suis, which some clever clogs translated into Latin: cogito ergo sum, which only then got translated into English. Beats me why Descartes gets all the credit, but there you go.

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    TdeF

    funds to research climate information integrity, especially in developing countries.” and “reliable journalism“.

    Funds. That’s a very meaningful but an odd and critical clue in the context of a declaration about alleged scientific information.

    Climate information integrity. Only UN approved information.

    reliable journalism when you know the answer before you ask the question. Which means no questions.

    freedom of speech. You can say what you like as long as it is previously approved by the UN and by your government.

    denialism daring to question let alone disagree.

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      Mike Jonas

      Incident Overview

      In a recent case, a woman in the UK was confronted by police regarding a comment she made online. This incident highlights the ongoing discussions about free speech and police involvement in online communications.
      Details of the Confrontation
      Key Facts

      Individual Involved: Deborah Anderson, an American cancer patient and Trump supporter.
      Location: Slough, England.
      Date of Incident: June 2025.
      Reason for Police Visit: A Facebook post that was reported as “threatening” by another individual.

      Police Actions

      An officer from Thames Valley Police visited Anderson’s home to discuss the post.
      She was informed that her comment had upset someone, but the officer did not disclose the specific content of the post.
      Anderson was asked to apologize for her comment or face further investigation.
      [from Grok]
      Could have been from Kafka.

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        Boambee John

        I’m so old that I can remember when leftards used terms like “Orwellian” and “Kafkaesque” as criticisms.

        Old times, better times.

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      Johnny Rotten

      Integrity?

      UN-believable.

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    Robber

    George Orwell 1984 got it spot on:
    “We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power.”
    “The Party was even prepared to alter the laws of physics.”
    “In the end, the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it.”

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    gowest

    All ties in – this interview with kathryn porter (UK) reveals how the long running conservative government got it wrong – basically the public service is independent and has been providing bad information for years -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzCiEHGVMwA . We know Albos mob just runs our govt using whatever they are told by public service with changes his mob likes and the economy is now in dire straits.

    Grok4 recently went through all their information and cross checked, verified and cleaned up – time for the UN to do the same, their bad info has made their position untenable.

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    David Maddison

    Here is the official report of what da Silva said.

    https://cop30.br/en/news-about-cop30/information-integrity-gains-unprecedented-prominence-in-climate-negotiations

    Combating Misinformation
    Information Integrity Gains Unprecedented Prominence in Climate Negotiations

    In his opening address at the conference, President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva emphasized the importance of combating denialism. “In the era of disinformation, obscurantists reject not only scientific evidence but also the progress of multilateralism. They control algorithms, sow hatred, and spread fear. They attack institutions, science, and universities. It is time to once again defeat the denialists,” he said.

    Basically, it’s a declaration of war against anyone questioning the Official Narrative.

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      Jon Rattin

      I just looked up definitions of obscurantism.

      obscurantism /ŏb-skyoo͝r′ən-tĭz″əm, əb-, ŏb″skyoo͝-răn′-/
      noun
      1. The principles or practice of obscurants.
      2. A policy of withholding information from the public.
      3. A style in art and literature characterized by deliberate vagueness or obliqueness.

      The UN and its underlings are looking employ the very policy in the second definition. Orwell would be proud.

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      Helen Dyer

      Perfect example of how the Left ascribe their evil crimes to their opponents. Apparently we’re the ones fighting a culture war too – I wish!!

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        Jon Rattin

        It’s like the radical Lefties in Melbourne that have hijacked the city streets for the last 2 years on Sunday. On the odd occasion that a March For Australia protest goes ahead, they shout over the MFA speakers with megaphones (with lots of expletives) to good effect- except for any children in the vicinity who don’t need their vocabulary expanded in that way. It’s hard to hear what the MFA speakers are saying at times. The irony is that the antifa crowd are seeking to deny people, with alternate points of view, the right to freedom of expression whilst calling them Fascists. Suppression of the opposition does not result in a free exchange of ideas nor a healthy democratic environment. Suppression only bolsters narratives and omits information that threatens the narrative.

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    Ross

    Man made climate change is a scam. Ross, Climate Denier and now a happy obscurantist.

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    David Maddison

    “Information Integrity” is in effect endorsement of the Official Narrative which itself is endorsement of the Leftist anti-science ideology that scientific fact is decided by “consensus” which can’t be questioned, i.e. political doctrine, not scientific investigation in accordance with the Scientific Method.

    If it can’t be questioned, it’s not science.

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      wal1957

      This whole scenario reminds me of Anthony Fauce when he said…

      I am the science.

      Questioning “the science” meant that many people were villified and/or lost their jobs and sometimes their careers.
      The UN might have been created with noble aims but it has become a cesspit for would be dictators.

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    Neville

    Blackout Bowen should be very happy at COP 30 while he fights for their BS and nonsense, because he wants to WASTE even more BILLIONs on COP 31 in Adelaide.
    We should test all of their lunacy against the available data and call out their lies and stupidity at every opportunity.
    But China etc will be very pleased and laughing all the way to their banks.

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    RickWill

    The cheering on of Trump on his damages claim against their BBC suggests that this attempt to silence people will be another miserable failure just like the NetZero fantasy and the Climate scam.

    This is an interesting perspective insight into Trump’s claimfrm Rees-Mogg:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRqixVeWWOs

    And everything he states about their BBC funding applies to their ABC in Australia.

    These blood sucking, radical left tyrants at the UN and their enablers around the world are now doing enough to feel the weight of democracy bearing on them.

    I can only hope that Pauline or her anointed gets the PM gig and first action is to withdraw all funding from the UN.

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    Ross

    So, when you look up the meaning of obscurantist you get – a person who deliberately prevents the facts or full details of something from becoming known. Which is what the UN are, but are now accusing their critics of being. Which is a real leftist manoeuvre. The US Democratic party were probably the champions of that ploy. Or naming some policy which actually has the exact opposite effect. The major example of that was the “Inflation reduction act”, which released so much government funding that it increased inflation. Also, all the COP’s are similar. They were meant to be this great meeting of minds to promote policies to decrease CO2 emissions. But emissions keep rising, so that was really effective. Not.

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      Johnny Rotten

      Emissions Impossible. Lol.

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      Jon Rattin

      They may round us up and force us to attend Obscurantists Anonymous meetings. Stand up in front of the group and say “Hi my name’s Jon and I’m an obscurantist”. Group chorus reply: “Hi Jonnn”. First step to recovery…

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    Sean

    Skepticism is a security threat alright, a job security threat for UN bureaucrats.

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    Neville

    Anyone can check their Climate IQ against the available data and the co2 Coalition Scientists provide us with a handy FACTS archive to test our knowledge.
    Just a pity we can’t get the loonies at COP 30 to check out the real Scientific data for a change.
    Why are they afraid of the Scientific data and why don’t they want the voters to understand the facts?

    https://co2coalition.org/facts/

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    david

    Albanese lies on a daily basis.
    Some of the time it may be because he actually doesn’t know or understand the topic.
    A dangerous mob this government.

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    Graham Richards

    When all is said & done, the oceans are BOILING!

    Must be, the chief of the UN spewed it! 😂😂😂😂😂

    Such information INTEGRITY !! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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    Neville

    Here’s another long list of their failed predictions over the years.

    Below are the 41 failed doomsday, eco-pocalyptic predictions (with links):

    1. 1967: Dire Famine Forecast By 1975
    2. 1969: Everyone Will Disappear In a Cloud Of Blue Steam By 1989 (1969)
    3. 1970: Ice Age By 2000
    4. 1970: America Subject to Water Rationing By 1974 and Food Rationing By 1980
    5. 1971: New Ice Age Coming By 2020 or 2030
    6. 1972: New Ice Age By 2070
    7. 1974: Space Satellites Show New Ice Age Coming Fast
    8. 1974: Another Ice Age?
    9. 1974: Ozone Depletion a ‘Great Peril to Life (data and graph)
    10. 1976: Scientific Consensus Planet Cooling, Famines imminent
    11. 1980: Acid Rain Kills Life In Lakes (additional link)
    12. 1978: No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend (additional link)
    13. 1988: Regional Droughts (that never happened) in 1990s
    14. 1988: Temperatures in DC Will Hit Record Highs
    15. 1988: Maldive Islands will Be Underwater by 2018 (they’re not)
    16. 1989: Rising Sea Levels will Obliterate Nations if Nothing Done by 2000
    17. 1989: New York City’s West Side Highway Underwater by 2019 (it’s not)
    18. 2000: Children Won’t Know what Snow Is
    19. 2002: Famine In 10 Years If We Don’t Give Up Eating Fish, Meat, and Dairy
    20. 2004: Britain will Be Siberia by 2024
    21. 2008: Arctic will Be Ice Free by 2018
    22. 2008: Climate Genius Al Gore Predicts Ice-Free Arctic by 2013
    23. 2009: Climate Genius Prince Charles Says we Have 96 Months to Save World
    24. 2009: UK Prime Minister Says 50 Days to ‘Save The Planet From Catastrophe’
    25. 2009: Climate Genius Al Gore Moves 2013 Prediction of Ice-Free Arctic to 2014
    26. 2013: Arctic Ice-Free by 2015 (additional link)
    27. 2014: Only 500 Days Before ‘Climate Chaos’
    28. 1968: Overpopulation Will Spread Worldwide
    29. 1970: World Will Use Up All its Natural Resources
    30. 1966: Oil Gone in Ten Years
    31. 1972: Oil Depleted in 20 Years
    32. 1977: Department of Energy Says Oil will Peak in 1990s
    33. 1980: Peak Oil In 2000
    34. 1996: Peak Oil in 2020
    35. 2002: Peak Oil in 2010
    36. 2006: Super Hurricanes!
    37. 2005 : Manhattan Underwater by 2015
    38. 1970: Urban Citizens Will Require Gas Masks by 1985
    39. 1970: Nitrogen buildup Will Make All Land Unusable
    40. 1970: Decaying Pollution Will Kill all the Fish
    41. 1970s: Killer Bees!

    Update: I’ve added 9 additional failed predictions (via Real Climate Science) below to make it an even 50 for the number of failed eco-pocalyptic doomsday predictions over the last 50 years.

    42. 1975: The Cooling World and a Drastic Decline in Food Production
    43. 1969: Worldwide Plague, Overwhelming Pollution, Ecological Catastrophe, Virtual Collapse of UK by End of 20th Century
    44. 1972: Pending Depletion and Shortages of Gold, Tin, Oil, Natural Gas, Copper, Aluminum
    45. 1970: Oceans Dead in a Decade, US Water Rationing by 1974, Food Rationing by 1980
    46. 1988: World’s Leading Climate Expert Predicts Lower Manhattan Underwater by 2018
    47. 2005: Fifty Million Climate Refugees by the Year 2020
    48. 2000: Snowfalls Are Now a Thing of the Past
    49.1989: UN Warns That Entire Nations Wiped Off the Face of the Earth by 2000 From Global Warming
    50. 2011: Washington Post Predicted Cherry Blossoms Blooming in Winter

    But somehow this time will be different, and the ‘experts’ and 16-year olds of today will suddenly be correct in their new predictions of eco-doom and eco-disaster? Not.

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      Johnny Rotten

      Australia has it’s own Climate Alarmist, a certain Dim Flatulence (Tim Flannery).

      So many of Dim’s predictions never came true. In fact all of them. Most had to do with water and the lack of. And rising sea levels.

      So what did Dim do. He bought a waterfront property at sea level with money that he stole from the Australian Taxpayer for being an Alarmist.

      Now, whenever it rains in Australia it is called a “Flannery”.

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      Ross

      Neville, great list which I hadn’t seen for a number of years. Just keeps getting longer every time I see it. To add to all the doomsday predictions there is also the misplaced happy predictions the climate blob make. I can remember Osama Bin Laden, actually Barack Obama (always get those two mixed up!) proclaiming he had stopped the oceans rising after getting China to sign some useless pledge document. Probably should have got a 2nd Nobel peace prize for that doozie. Then after Paris, there were similar announcements of joy about all the lovely things that were agreed upon. But now we learn that all those emissions pledges were, well, just make believe. As will all the agreements coming out of Brazil.

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        PeterPetrum

        Yes, I clearly remember Obama, during his inauguration speech saying, “today is the day the oceans stop rising”. Well, he was almost correct, you can hardly call a couple of millimetres a year “rising”.

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      Johnny Rotten

      And Net Zero by 2050. LOL

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    David Maddison

    DEFUND THE THOUGHT POLICE

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    Melbourne Resident

    So when are they going back to the geological texts I studied at university on Paleoclimates that do not indicate any reliance of changes to our climate on CO2 but on cyclical interactions in the cosmos, in particular planets in the solar system, the sun’s emissions, influence of precession of the earth’s axis etc etc so that they can throw them all down the memory hole?

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      TdeF

      It turns out that there are two cycles which fit perfectly. The 250 year De Vries solar cycle and the 65 year AMO/PDO ocean cycles. Perfect fit to thermometer data in Europe for the last 250 years, the only such data on the planet as the thermometer itself did not exist before 1700. Almost everything else is made up, extrapolated, interpolated, derived and with debatable accuracy. Like all those non existent weather stations in the UK still producing temperatures when they were closed years ago. We now have computer generated weather data, not real weather data. It’s a closed loop where predictions always match reality as they are the same thing, certainly in the historical record where data is still being changed to produce warming.

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        el+gordo

        There has been debate over the years that De Vries might be a 200 year cycle.

        https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0031018207005214

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          TdeF

          In an inverse way, the perfect fit actually indicates otherwise. The fit is so incredibly good it is indirect confirmation of the period. And if the world rapidly cools, as is happening in Antarctica, the period is right to within 10 years.

          Consider the CO2 vs Temperature predictions. They cannot even get a largely monotonic trend right! The European graph has twelve turning points! All exactly right from combining two and only two sine waves of known starting point and wavelength. I don’t think I have ever seen such an amazingly good fit. Of course part of that is the least squares optimzation, but the 12 turning points are correct in timing AND height. Staggering. By Occam’s razor, it’s the explanation. CO2 is effect of warming, not a cause. And humans have absolutely no input on CO2, as you can see from the NZ graph for the last 50 years.

          I started commenting with one fact, that C14 proved that there was only 2.0% fossil fuel CO2 in the air. And now even the presumption that anyone can change CO2, a huge presumption, has been proven wrong. And the simplicity of the explanation of temperatures in Europe confirm that. Plus the fact that the European temperatures match the human observations over the time, especially the huge drop in 1870. It may be that the push to a ‘world temperature’ was a device to distract from reality because there was never a ‘world temperature’. It is simply not a meaningful concept on this complex planetary surface in a scale as short as 250 years.

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      David of Cooyal in Oz

      Don’t forget that the IPCC “science” is defined to start from the Industrial revolution when dangerous CO2 was invented. And that labelling allowed them to ignore the term “Little Ice Age” which was ending about the same time.

      Very clever data manipulation.

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    czechlist

    IMO
    The recent weak solar flares causing unusual Aurorae is an indication that our magnetic field is weakening prior to a pole shift. The UN scientists and oligarchs have known about it for decades and know it will result in “climate change” although it has nothing to do with human activity. But the truth would cause worldwide panic.
    No matter. it is too late and ain’t nothing any human can do about it.
    I may interject, also IMO, on the proliferation of “UAP”. Likely probes collecting data on the geophysical changes which are occuring. From who/ where? I cannot speculate.

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    Ruairi

    Denialists are a ‘security threat’,
    Obscurantists with the wrong mindset,
    As the U.N. won’t tolerate,
    Any climate debate,
    On their Zero emissions and that’s Net.

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    “We live in an era in which obscurantists reject scientific evidence” – really??
    There are 399 time series for the atmospheric CO2 concentration from all across the World on the web site for the World Data Centre for Greenhouse Gases. They show that the concentration follows a regular 12 month cycle. This means that the Seasonal changes of temperature and weather through Summer, Autumn, Winter and Spring caused by the annual orbit of the Earth around the Sun are the cause of the CO2 change not the reverse.

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    Graham Richards

    All this information integrity from Gore, the UN and their ilk. How will we cope?

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    TdeF

    Are the oceans still boiling at 100C? Where, exactly are the oceans 100C? Or is asking the question denialism?

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      TdeF

      How can the President of the United Nations say something so outrageously wrong and no one laughs?

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      Johnny Rotten

      I am sure that deep down under the Ocean with an undersea Volcano then the water is quite hot.

      LOL

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        TdeF

        Yes, people know it’s nuts but they keep trying to interpret Gutteres’ profound wisdom. A bit like life of Brian.

        In fact that very week it was announced shallow water around West Florida had reached 100 degrees. And Gutterres announced the oceans were boiling.
        Oops! The water was only 100F, 38C, body temperature not 100C.

        But hey, when you run the UN and IPCC, any dissent from the statements of Der Fuhrer is denialism. In Hitler’s Germany, defeatism. And it was punishable by death.

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          TdeF

          I would love to know why everyone accepts that Climate Change is leftist/socialist policy. What part of alleged climate science is socialist? All the socialist parties are in Brazil protesting at COP30. What does socialism have to do with Climate Change. Or Palestine for that matter? What do these issues have in common other than an attack on democracy? I didn’t see any protests, marches, banners, vitriol against the Wuhan Flu mass murder? Or was that another socialist agenda?

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            TdeF, Climate Change hoax is part of the means that the Communists are using to take over the World and yes the Covid/fake vaccine is part of that plot. Gutteres was formally head of Socialist International ie a Communist. Due to a deprived childhood our PM is a Communist as early childhood experiences determine a person’s character.
            The UN Pact for the Future and the WHO Pandemic pact are all part of the plot – Wake Up Australia, before it is too late.

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          John F. Hultquist

          Apparently, Florida has more than one Manatee Bays. One is on the Gulf Coast near Ft. Myers and the other is on the SE near Key Largo.
          Here is a link to the story WUWT had on the episode.
          https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/08/03/wrong-mainstream-media-floridas-sea-water-is-not-setting-records/

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            TdeF

            Great information. Thanks. I thought the 37 was no big deal, but it has been hyped like dead polar bears. The fact that it was just offshore at neap tide just adds to the absurdity. But to claim the water was boiling takes it all to a new level of deliberate deceit. I could accept stupidity if it happened only once. And the complicity of self described climate science reporters just adds to the villainy.

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    Greg in NZ

    Take a bow, New Zealanders – all 5,000,000 of us who contribute 0.00000272% GHG or thereabouts – we have been labelled, for the 4th time, Fossil Of The Day. Big hearty round of applause please!

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/579203/new-zealand-awarded-dubious-fossil-of-the-day-at-cop30-climate-talks

    On the very day some regional airports were shutdown due to volcanic ash erupting out of White Island, the UNholy prophets of dogma doo issued:

    “Unlike carbon dioxide, which warms the atmosphere for centuries, methane is a short-lived gas but has huge warming potential” [sic and sicker].

    At the risk of being called an obscurantist (?), don’t mention the war, China, India, the USA, Russia, Brazil, termites nor volcanoes (either above-ground or beneath the sea). To paraphrase John Denver:

    Thank God I’m A Fossil Boy!

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    Neville

    Why don’t the liars and con merchants in Brazil tell us the truth about death rates from extreme weather events etc from 1900 to 2025?
    The evidence from OWI Data clearly shows that deaths from all of these extreme weather events have fallen by 99% since 1900 and yet their COP 30 refuse to mention these clear facts.
    And why can’t they also tell us that we have 6 + billion more people at risk today compared to 1900 to 1940s? Just check out the data at the link.

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/natural-disaster-death-rates?country=Flood~Extreme+weather~Wildfire~Drought~Extreme+temperature

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      Neville

      Lomborg, Dr Goklany and Dr Koonin etc tell us that extreme weather deaths have dropped by at least 98% today compared to the earlier 20th century.
      Of course a 98% global reduction per 100,000 lives equals 98,000 lives saved today.

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    The UN’s Information Integrity is no landmark deal, it’s a SNAFU, where, to be polite, F = Fouled.

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    doc

    Frankly the democracies are well on the way to becoming dictatorships, both nationally and under the UN.
    The UN has morphed from a debating organisation to prevent war and assist third world nations (disregarding their governance) to become a nationally accepted international dictatorship in its own right. Just think of the calibre of some of the leaderships that tell us how we should be governed and live. There is no surprise here! The European leadership via the European Commission is a virtual dictatorship and the western elites, those oligarchs, have their final aims of converting unbelievable wealth into power over the masses. Hence the ‘you will own nothing and be happy!’ There is no organised backlash; a Trumpian backlash is what is required to wake people up. They understand his language completely.

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    Anton

    The UN is a democracy of dictatorships and a sump for failed politicians. It was a rebranding of the League of Nations which did so much in the 1930s to prevent a world war.

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    Richard Ilfeld

    Don’t F them. They probably enjoy it.

    Defund them.

    Then in the glorious Soviet tradition, defenestrate them.

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    Mike

    As expected, Canada continues to be one of the worst governed countries in the world. We are so screwed.

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