By JoNova
Unlike nearly every UN gathering, COP30 in Brazil got no last minute ‘landmark deal’
They didn’t even get something mildly positive that they could call spin into success. Even friends of The Blob are using words like “unhappy“, “losing” and “disappointing”. Only two years ago at COP28 everyone was quivering with the thrill of a ‘historic’ deal to phase out fossil fuels. Nearly 200 countries had agreed ‘for the first time ever’ to ” transition away from fossil fuels and towards renewables and energy efficiency. ” It was the first time the UN deal had specifically mentioned “fossil fuels”. And thus it was beginning of the end of coal, gas and oil, they told us.
Then Donald Trump won, and two years later even the UN admits they are losing the climate battle. This time, instead of 200 countries endorsing the end of fossil fuels, according to Bloomberg, only about 80 “had united behind the push — a significant number, but short of the supermajority that forced the landmark pledge to transition away from fossil fuels in Dubai two years ago.”
The ABC spun this crushing loss (from 200 down to 80) as just a “sidestep” around fossil fuels . They cover up for the UN-Blob with every edit. It’s not like it’s a sign that the world is backing away from renewables and self-immolating Net Zero targets, is it?
“The talks did not actually collapse”
The Guardian (of The Blob) puts the best spin on the situation that it can, which was that the talks did not disintegrate entirely. “Multilateralism held”. The big success in Brazil was that everyone held hands and agreed to promise nothing — but they did it together.
The world is not winning the fight against the climate crisis but it is still in that fight, the UN climate chief has said in Belém, Brazil, after a bitterly contested Cop30 reached a deal.
Countries at Cop30 failed to bring the curtain down on the fossil fuel age amid opposition from some countries led by Saudi Arabia, and they underdelivered on a flagship hope – at a conference held in the Amazon – to chart an end to deforestation.
But in a fractious era of nationalism, war and distrust, the talks did not collapse as was feared. Multilateralism held – just.
Expectations are so incredibly low now. They used to pretend to save the world, now they just want to save the COP junket:
A Decade After Paris, Climate Diplomacy Is About Saving Itself
Bloomberg
COP30 President André Corrêa do Lago laid out the stakes before delegates traveled to Belém, telling a Bloomberg Green event: “We have to convince people it’s worthwhile to continue to negotiate.”
In the end, the holdouts found enough reason to back a deal — if largely to send a signal that countries can still unite behind the climate cause. “There was a will to make sure this agreement didn’t fall,” said Ed Miliband, the UK’s energy secretary. “Nobody in that room really wanted to be the people who brought the thing down.” Instead, he added, “there was actually a will to keep the show on the road.”
Perhaps the UN shouldn’t have picked Brazil for the cute forestry photos — because there were bigger forces at work:
… a large faction of countries, egged on by Brazil President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva in his role as host, had made a renewed push against fossil fuels, turning it into the proving ground for both climate cooperation and the very idea of multilateralism in a rapidly fracturing world. But Brazilian diplomats leading the summit, under pressure from Arab states and Russia, didn’t embrace the proposal.
The whole point of holding it in far flung Belem, Brazil was to help get a historic forest-protection slush fund started. They wanted $125 billion dollar pot of influence called the Tropical Forests Forever Facility, but in the end, they didn’t even get the words “deforestation” in the final deal.
Remember when the historic COP28 meeting was the beginning of the end of fossil fuels?
“The global transition towards low greenhouse gas emissions and climate-resilient development is irreversible and the trend of the future.” He argued: “This is a political and market signal that cannot be ignored.”
The political and market signal that can’t be ignored is the one where skeptics are winning elections, or dominating the polls, and sustainable investors are fleeing from references of climate change.
How about a push to end deforestation in the Amazon.
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I wonder if that could be done by, say, Brazil?
Over 210 million people, perhaps they could do it.
Or would it mean some [very rich] folk not getting [even] richer?
Auto
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Difficult when the poor local landowners are offered around US$25 for each tree.
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How about a push to end population growth in Africa?
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How about a push to end agriculture?
That’ll sort the population problem.
Then there’ll be plenty of fossil fuels for all remaining who can afford them.
This will work I reckon.
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But, but, but, the oceans are boiling. When the “ leader “ of any organisation makes statements like this you certainly know the fate of that organisation is sealed. Not even the most ignorant jungle dweller believes it so how the hell will anyone else. In addition all credibility of the organisation and its members has evaporated. Maybe that’s why the MSM will never ever repeat the statement, hoping it has been forgotten. News for all. Nobody’s going to forget that fool and any other statements or” facts “ he or that organisation extoll. They are a former organisation and those attached to it are unemployables. Maybe that’s why they’ve employed our moron that identifies as an energy minister! They need someone that is equally stupid to replace some stupids already in a hurry to leave the UN!
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The “Bigger Fool” principle.
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How about a push to end deforestation in Australia for the wind and solar environmental and agricultural catastrophe.
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End of World stories have completely stopped! Even the IPPC no longer support them.
All that is left is more Climate Change Cash, the basic purpose of COP30. It’s not just that their own Marxist/Communist/Socialist governments have deserted them, but so has ‘Science’. Not a single new terrible story of the end of the world, an untimely end which can only be averted if all the rich countries hand over the cash.
And increasingly COP is about fossil fuels. We have heard nothing about deforestation because while it’s true in some ancient forest areas, overall tree coverage is increasing world wide with increased CO2, especially in near desert areas. Which on its own destroys Australian Agricultural Carbon Credits.(CARBON CREDITS (CARBON FARMING INITIATIVE) ACT 2011 – SECT 53) the basis of the Safeguard Mechanism for the new move of totally hidden CO2 taxes. And people around the world have had enough of soaring electricity prices with the move to allegedly cheaper Replaceables.
So carbon capture, carbon cash capture will simply go underground, as it did under John Howard in 2001. We have had 24 years of theft by governments, hidden in Acts no one knows about, taxes we do not know we are paying and a total lack of accountability by Canberra. Which is true for every government since John Howard.
Incidentally John Howard says he is “Climate Agnostic”. Then why did he legislate “the Renewable Energy (Electricity) Act 2000. I could list 20 Federal Government Acts which people did not know existed. All ultimately are about taxation without representation organized by the closed climate cash cartel in Canberra.
COP may fail. Canberra will still want their Climate Cash, to spend at the whims of Canberran public servants and their political friends. How else do you explain the $20+Billion for the pumped hydro scheme which is Snowy II. A scheme which was rejected as uneconomic in the 1950s. And so many people on $300,000 a year, indexed at 6% pa.
There needs to be a complete clean out of Climate Laws in Australia. And an expose on how much illegal hidden taxes are costing Australians and where the money goes.
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Here are just some..
Clean Energy Regulator Act 2011
The Regulator has such functions as are conferred on it by or under:
(a) the Clean Energy Act 2011; and
(b) the Carbon Credits (Carbon Farming Initiative) Act 2011; and
(c) the National Greenhouse and Energy Reporting Act 2007; and
(d) the Renewable Energy (Electricity) Act 2000; and
(e) the Australian National Registry of Emissions 2 Units Act 2011.
Climate change law means any of the following:
(a) this Act or legislative instruments under this Act;
(b) the Clean Energy Act 2011 or legislative instruments under that Act;
(c) the Clean Energy (Charges—Excise) Act 2011 or legislative instruments under that Act;
(d) the Clean Energy (Charges—Customs) Act 2011 or legislative instruments under that Act;
(e) the Clean Energy (Unit Issue Charge—Auctions) Act 2011 or legislative instruments under that Act; and (f) the Clean Energy (Unit Issue Charge—Fixed Charge) Act 2011; and
(g) the Clean Energy (Unit Shortfall Charge—General) Act 2011 or legislative instruments under that Act; and
(h) the Clean Energy (International Unit Surrender Charge) Act 2011 or legislative instruments under that Act; and
(i) the Carbon Credits (Carbon Farming Initiative) Act 2011 or legislative instruments under that Act;
(j) the National Greenhouse and Energy Reporting Act 2007 or legislative instruments under that Act;
(k) the Renewable Energy (Electricity) Act 2000 or legislative instruments under that Act;
(l) the Renewable Energy (Electricity) (Large-scale Generation Shortfall Charge) Act 2000;
(m) the Renewable Energy (Electricity) (Small-scale Technology Shortfall Charge) Act 2010;
(n) the Australian National Registry of Emissions Units Act 2011 2 or legislative instruments under that Act.
(a) the Clean Energy Act 2011; or
(b) the Carbon Credits (Carbon Farming Initiative) Act 2011; or
(c) the National Greenhouse and Energy Reporting Act 2007; or
(d) the Renewable Energy (Electricity) Act 2000.
and the list goes on and on. Plus at a State and council level. Bans on natural gas, coal seam gas, exports of coal, nuclear power, uranium, thorium and of course the incidental shut down of industries including Australia’s biggest manufacturer of chemicals and all the smelters are just continuing with government subsidies and even legal takeover while coal Royalties have tripled, pushing even giant coal producers into massive losses. Transport companies and airlines and farmers are next.
It’s not about saving the planet. That’s the only part which is certain.
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And the question I have is that if John Howard was not convinced of man made Climate Change, why did he do it? And Scott Morrison who signed us up to Net Zero. And Julia Gillard who promised “there will be no Carbon Tax in a government I lead”.
What has driven all the Australian Prime Ministers since 2000, with the except of Tony Abbott, to tax Australia into a third world country and send the cash overseas while wrecking the joint? No new dams. Bans on fossil fuels, even forestry. And the destruction of manufacturing, transport and farming. Who is really running Australia? What is their agenda? It is the greatest time of self destruction in Australia’s history, mirrored equally by other Commonwealth countries including the UK, Canada, NZ, South Africa which are all a complete mess. And yet Australia is doubling down. A mere $18Billion to the Clean Energy Finance last year.
What is Clean Energy? Laws based on a lie of dirty Carbon dioxide when 90% of Australians do not know any chemistry, let alone biochemistry or physics. Or it that the entire point of all the hidden laws and taxes? Rob the rich, all directed by the UN and their Chinese masters. The Wuhan flus and Carbon Credits and wars across the world, all brought to you by the UN. Which wants to be an unelected world totalitarian government but itself a shadow puppet, as we learned in 2020.
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Saw the “Greens” on telly last night bemoaning that the federal government won’t stop native timber harvesting immediately. The hypocrisy of this group demanding that a perfectly good system of harvesting timber and then replacing it with more trees must stop. Sarah two dads then opens her mouth about “destruction” of habitat without mentioning how alleged renewables do EXACTLY that. Then followed a clip from Albo about how Australia must become a superpower and productivity and jobs can only improve by building more renewables. Bloody amazing, I can remember when Australia was a manufacturing power house, GMH, the car manufacturer even had a railway station directly into their manufacturing site at Dandeong to take in the large number of workers, this right beside Heinz foods, who had a spur line to deliver train loads of briquettes to fire their boiler, right beside International Trucks (Iveco)
The government even built suburbs of government housing (Doveton and Lindale) to provide these manufactures with workers. Three bedroom prefab concrete construction, about 12 squares on quarter acre blocks so the kids had somewhere to play.
Oh well, we can all dream of living off government handouts and listening to politicians telling up how good they are and how good the populace has got it these days. Probably won’t go for a walk around the shops today as I left my stab proof vest at home.
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I worked at GMH Dandenong (or Doveton) in the early 80s, and frequently travelled there by train.
Heinz?
Yes. Just before morning smoko, if the wind was right, this huge whaft of tomato-baked-bean aroma would flood the factory, even blotting out the oily, grimy odours of welding operations.
And catch the train on that same line going into Melbourne, and you rode past factories in Clayton making TVs, radios, washing machines, vacuum-cleaners and God-knows what else.
And today, we are governed by the criminally-incompetent or by mental pygmies.
Or both.
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All driven by cheap and reliable electricity from the brown coal in the Latrobe Valley. Where there still is at least 500 years easy supply of the fuel.
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Similar thing in Moorabbin when the fag factory was making menthols.
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Even for those of unconstrained vision, or those promoting existential threat for other reasons, necessity – eventually – bites.
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I hear interviewers and enemy politicians asking Coalition politicians how they will cut people’s power bills. TdeF; You have listed the billions spent on climate related agencies. Add to that the cost of the thousands of public servants hired to keep the rubbish going. The money to reduce electricity prices is readily available, it will just take a strong leader to make the decision and follow it through. Let us hope one such person is at hand.
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My point about the prices is that you are not paying for electricity. Illegally, energy retailers are forced to pay your cash for Green Certificates if they want to buy Dirty Energy. Which is the majority of it. So for 24 years your payments have been harvested. Worse, wind and solar people get paid for producing, even if the energy is not sold. Plus, as the supplier of lowest priority, coal and gas have to ramp up and down while excess wind and solar are always purchased. This pushes fossil fuel suppliers out of business, as intended.
It’s like a coffee shop where if you buy from the wrong one, there are secret payments made to the other one built into your coffee price. The Mafia perfected this. And the Australian and UK governments just copied it. Yes, it’s all illegal since Magna Carta. But who is going to call it out as illegal in the High Court?
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Of course they are for electricity. Dont pay them and see what gets cut off.
The electricity business isnt the only one riddled subsidies, cross payments, conditional payments, bribes and assorted shenanigans. Its just one we choose to focus on.
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How many Nuclear generation plants could have been built with the funds wasted on the whims of politicians & billionaires greedy for more billions!
How many existing coal burning generators could have been up graded to HELE specifications & general maintenance for the grid with the funds wasted on the wind & solar installations destroying the environment as we speak??
This CC swamp needs to be drained along with the creatures that inhabit it !!
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TdeF,
I recall Treasurer Frydenberg on TV saying reluctantly that the Libs would adopt net zero by 2050 otherwise Australia would face less easy terms from international bankers, or words to that effect. I was horrified by the threat and its outcome and wish in hindsight that it could have led to prosecutions for illegality like demanding money with threats. Geoff S
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Hence Australia’s ongoing push for censorship and mis/disinformation laws and the social media ban for under 16’s preventing younger people accessing alternative points of view other than what they get in the indoctrination centres once known as schools.
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The attempt by the gnomes of Canberra to silence and even jail their critics continues. Three years jail for a woman in the UK for a viral comment. Apology not accepted. Locked up. Shocking. How long before government critics are jailed in Australia. 1,000 people were jailed for Jan 6th. Most did nothing wrong.
Identity cards, thought police, internet bans for dissidents. All for the common good and decided by departments of Truth enforcers.
Dissent will not be tolerated. Truth is what the government legislates. And Pauline Hanson, extreme Right apparently might end up in jail again. Like former Brazilian President Bolsanaro already in jail, sick and facing another 37 years. The government is all powerful and anyone who disagrees is a Nazi.
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There is a strong correlation between the number of bureaucrats, red tape and the gradual erosion of our rights and freedoms. A strong leader who reduces the PS to the bare minimum would solve many of our problems. Why do we have an Energy minister when energy is a state responsibility? Health? Education? Environment?
Dumping federal departments and allowing states to be in charge would open the states to real competition, as once existed.
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Unfortunately the “opposition” party, the Liberals believe much the same as the Government and are silent about Government waste and loss of freedoms, indeed they are responsible for much of it. At best, they are just slightly less bad than Labor.
We need to get behind a conservative party like One Nation, first giving them the balance of power and then hopefully Government.
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I think that there is an inverse correlation between the number of “human rights” we supposedly have in most Western countries and the amount of freedom we actually have.
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Pauline Hanson, bless her, who in govt would have the guts to walk into parliament dressed in a burkha.
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Indeed. They even had to demolish a large section of tens of thousands of virgin Brazilian rainforest to build a road to get to COP30.
But don’t worry, the demolition of the forest was “sustainable”. I am not kidding.
In other words they had to destroy the forest to save it.
If it were not for the double standards of the Left they would have none whatsoever. And the hypocrisy and inherent contradiction in what they did is staggering.
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The money has run out.
The USA won’t give much, if anything, for the next 3 years, possibly even longer.
The UK, Germany, Australia and NZ have wrecked their economies trying to do this, so a pittance from them.
I wonder if COP31 will occur? Especially with Bowen organising it.
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Bowen is pushing for a pre-COP COP in the Pacific
You can imagine what a disaster that will be.
And how much of our taxes will be thrown away on it.
Now they won’t be able to waste a billion or two of our taxes at COP31 in Adelaide, you can bet it will be wasted somewhere else.
I won’t be surprised if they give cash to the Ottomans as well.
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They are also destroying the Brazilian rainforest to make fully woke ethanol biofuels.
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Don’t forget Australia and the other woke Western countries will still be determined to give away your hard-earned taxes to third parties, most of which we likely end up in corrupt pockets.
What is the Pacific Resilience Fund?
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They don’t want China to own all those little Pacific Island governments … but they also don’t want to be open about opposition to China. Hence the implausible cover story for significant money transfer, which helps counteract China’s implausible story about phasing out coal, etc.
I think the big takeaway lesson for me is that I finally came to understand not one word you hear from these people should be taken without deep suspicion.
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A week or two of fine dining and catching up with elite friends, staying in a five star resort and getting to travel in first class style. And the best part is that it’s all paid for by taxpayers, under the guise of pretending to save the planet from a bit a greening, whilst creating a bit of extra planet greening in the process. Who wouldn’t want to go next year ?
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This is the way it All ends
Not with a Bang but a Whimper
With apologies to T S Eliot.
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If the past attempted apocalypse scares are a guide, yes they stop talking about it , someimes even allow “wern’t they silly” explainers (where “they” is always someone else, eh Mr Gates) and the look for the next squirrel to distract people.
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This is glorious indeed
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Meanwhile death rates from extreme weather events are at an all time low and we live on the safest planet for Humans in 300 K years, so what’s their problem?
But just think of the crazy plans that BO Bowen will be working on for COP 31 and his dreams of the OECD countries’ final destruction.
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Even though that conference by parasites, for parasites, COP30, is a failure, and the climate catastrophe narrative has more or less collapsed, Australia is a fanatical follower of climate doom.
The engineered destruction of the Australian economy via the climate narrative started with fake conservative Liberal Johnnie Howard in 1997 and has continued unabated until this day under Chrissie Bowen.
Australia was an early adopter of the climate scam and will follow it to the bitter end. Even the fake conservative Liberals, in the unlikely event that they ever get elected, can’t bring themselves to cancel the Paris Agreement even though they pretend to have abandoned Net Zero.
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UN says “World is losing climate battle”. COP30 ends with most countries
NOT wantingUNABLE to phase out fossil fuels.Fixed..
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At the start of each COP they should play the monologue out of Landman about the place of oil in the world.
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J,
You are too modest when you write “Then Donald Trump won, and two years later even the UN admits they are losing the climate battle.”
You know that with David, years ago when you started this blog, you were opposing some central assumptions from the CACW clan, providing a resistance to their poor science through a very well managed blog that attracted global commenters almost at once. There was then, there is now, a core of scientists who did not buy the Climate Change narrative because of its inability to answer many serious objections. Then we saw the promoters of Climate Change, anti-fossil fuels, etc., move into propaganda, into banning of contrary views, the firing of very senior scientists for objecting, the capture of education for youngsters, the core of respected, qualified objecting people named here as a Top 10 — all together, we have had influence that is now being seen as more valid than before by those who spread narratives, such as mass media.
https://yearofinvention.com/blog/top-10-scientists-who-challenge-climate-change/
Many readers here can be proud of the ways that they have helped to burst the bubble. Now, it is only a matter of time for the reality of failure to sink in to the promoters. It took too long to disabuse them of their lack of scientific skills, but we have succeeded.
I’ll drink to that, even as a teetotaller and hard scientist who was objecting from my start in 1992.
However, I remain dismayed by the reluctance to speak up of many fellow scientists, many of whom were cowered by the brutality of the promoters. Society needs a deep think about how to manage a global crisis after so many failures to provide answers, including the cause of Covid-19, the lockdown responses to Covid-19, the punishments for those declining the Covid-19 “vaccine”, the cover-up of the mistakes about Covid-19 testing, the reluctance to admit that the mRNA “vaccines” have the potential to change the path of the human genome globally, and more.
There have been several earlier scares invented mainly by bureaucrats, such as the US scare of the 1980s that man-made chemicals would cause an epidemic of new cancers.
We need to better understand why individuals invent and carry out these scares, whether they were born mentally sick, whether there is fast money to be got, or high political positions, whatever. We also need to set the mass media on a better trajectory for the recognition and calling out of scares, usually accompanied by a poor standard of science.
Congratulations. Geoff S
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“There have been several earlier scares invented mainly by bureaucrats, such as the US scare of the 1980s that man-made chemicals would cause an epidemic of new cancers.”
Isn’t this one more of a fact than a scare now? They made it happen. Man made Chemicals are causing an epidemic of new cancers, cancer has especially accelerated ten fold since the Covid jabs were mass forced on the majority of developed countries.
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They were cowed Geoff, not cowered; I’ve written about this before…
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Junketeers lose their fortnight’s fun,
If next year has no Cop 31,
With few fossil fuel deals,
The U.N. now feels,
The ‘climate battle’ to be lost and not won.
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The COP30 participants agreed to nothing but a few fluffy words.
Greta says “How dare you”.
I say, looking forward to Net Zero COPs in the future.
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I wonder what the carbon footprint of a COP would be, some more than others.
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A total of 494 Australian professional parasites went to COP30, and your taxes paid for most of them.
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Imagine if we directed all this climate money into Deuterium Fusion research. I’d say that later this century Germany will be powered mostly by fusion and those white wind turbine towers will stand as monuments to an era of stupidity. At least William Blake’s “dark satanic mills” did something useful for Britain.
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Sky News political contributor Chris Uhlmann has outlined the challenges Energy Minister Chris Bowen could face in his new role leading negotiations for a world climate summit, branding conference attendees as the “world’s biggest pack of grifters”.
Chris Bowen ‘sold Australia out’ in Brazil to stop coal and gas Australian exports. The Labor minister also promised to get rid of Australia’s coal and gas generators which supply two-thirds of the country’s electricity.
Psychomancy and nepotism rules supreme!
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Just because we are witnessing the beginning of the end of the climate change scam, except in Australia where it grows stronger by the day, the lies of the Left who have caused such tremendous economic destruction must not be allowed to go unpunished.
Don’t forgive. Don’t forget. Prosecute.
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Don’t forget the Malthusian extremists are always wrong and we now have a handy list of 50 failures since the 1960s to check against their doomsday predictions.
But liars and con merchants + the MSM + Banks + extreme pollies etc will still try to carry on.
https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/50-years-of-failed-doomsday-eco-pocalyptic-predictions-the-so-called-experts-are-0-50/
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Even better the push to create a no fossil roadmap could derail the whole COP process:
https://www.cfact.org/2025/11/24/cop-30-fumbles-the-hard-issue-into-the-future/
So much the better.
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David Wojick:
No money from the USA (blame Trump).
No money from the UK, Germany, France etc because they adopted Green Ideas and wrecked their economies.
Similarly Australia and NZ but they’ve sent an Ex-PM and (hopefully) an Ex-Minister to help the cause.
The sooner the whole thing collapses the better.
Incidentally, going through some old savings (for something else) I kept finding odd reports about Global Cooling – always disputed.
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I see little sign of collapse. 19 of the G20 just reaffirmed alarmism. We face a huge invading army that is not about to go away. Making it step backward is a big victory. Hopefully more to follow.
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Did the 19 / 20 really all reaffirm alarmism or did they reaffirm symbolism ?. IMO this is pure politics at play and many players are wanting to create an impression as doing one thing but do the opposite in reality. It’s noteworthy that the rate of emissions increase during the ‘COP’ era has actually increased from the preceding 30 year period and shows no signs of slowing today or any time soon.
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Simpleton Chrissie Bowen being in charge of COP31 might actually be a good thing.
It will be such a disaster, even the professional parasites will be looking for a new scam to host them.
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They already are: https://www.cfact.org/2025/11/24/cop-30-fumbles-the-hard-issue-into-the-future/
A new process may be emerging including a new treaty but only signed by green governments. Much fun lies ahead.
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While I agree with the ‘much fun lies ahead’, that’s for realists like us, who can also afford or avoid the costs being imposed.
What worthless unspeakables like Bowen (who has the intellect of a small cactus and the morals of Irma Grese) are doing to the elderly and poor is genuinely despicable. They are being embeggared by the grift enriching the wealthy and giving the climate cultists their deviant jollies.
Just look at how the poor are being hammered in Victoria.
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True but this harm is not directly connected to the upcoming meeting that I am writing about. I am studying troup movements not the war.
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Without the global money spigot it is dust.
The Climate Change™ scam moves closer to its end as the inevitable reliance on fossil fuels becomes obvious to all.
What is the ERoEI for Artificial intelligence? My guess is that it is presently highly negative. The only way it will become positive is to set it on the task of devising a nuclear fusion process that delivers ERoEI.
If CO2 was going to cause the end of mankind, the only valuable use of AI would be to develop nuclear fusion. Instead it is gaining significant funding for military applications.
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Pretty sure they drained the spigot and got away with the loot.
And most of the productive wealth yet realized and may have difficulty materializing due to the thorough looting.
Maybe their wealthy indolent grandchildren can start charities.
Foundations and the like.
Build a few more hallowed halls at Harvard.
Help the poors even harder.
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Sometimes I think the COPs are a good thing. It gives 10’s of thousands of the faithful and the hanger on media a sense that they are actually doing something, while most dont actually do anything. It keeps them distracted for weeks and months , before and after, and keeps them from doing damage elsewhere.
From a climate realists point of view, if you are going to have a climate alarm meeting , this is the type to have.
Icing on the cake? Next year Bowen leads it.
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Willis Eschenbach has another go at calculating ECS or how much temperature increase we could expect from a doubling of co2.
He finds 0.44 c to 0.47 c and settles at 0.5 c or similar to Happer and Lindzen’s latest finding.
Of course the IPCC and other extremists favour 3 c or 4 c or even 5 c and that’s why Aussies are soon to WASTE TRILLIONs of $ more for a SFA return on their investment (?).
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/11/24/a-world-without-air/
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Even though the United States sent no one to COP30, did you know the break-away state of Commiefornia did?
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It’s a ‘fair cop’ alright, but only for the attendees on the ‘gravy train’ for whom each COP is a sinecure. Make COP attendance self funded and via Google Voice. That will drastically reduce the carbon footprint from all those FIFO COP jetsetters.
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Just a few minutes ago, I asked ChatGPT this question.
“Was COP30 a disappointment or a disaster?”
ChatGPT answered:
“COP30 has not happened yet — it is scheduled for November 2025 in Belém, Brazil.
So if you’re seeing headlines calling it a “disappointment” or a “disaster,” they’re either: ………….”
I replied, COP30 ended days ago, then got the answer I was initially asking for. ‘Disappointment’ was the consensus (my words in summary.)
Hopefully they are up to date now.
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Did you know the Australian Government has a “Climate Active Carbon Neutral Standard for Events”, you can certify your event is “low carbon”, whatever that means.
I would have thought these COP conferences including COP31 should be conducted according to such standards.
But, again we witness the amazing hypocrisy of the Left.
https://www.dcceew.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/climate-active-carbon-neutral-standard-events.pdf
Also see:
https://www.finance.gov.au/sites/default/files/2023-11/Net_Zero_Government_Operations_Strategy.pdf
They would expect we non-Elites to use videoconferencing, they should too.
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So what is this CC crisis or emergency or existential threat or…..?
it’s not SLR or about 1.5 mm year.
It’s not polar bears, just 6000 in 1950 and about 30,000 today.
It’s not deaths from extreme weather events. Big drop of about 98% for death rates since 1900.
It’s not drowning coral islands. See NZ Kench studies etc over the last 40 years.
It’s not Human life expectancy, now the highest for 300 K years.
It’s not the GBR coral now at highest levels.
It’s not the NET SINK SH or 50% of the Earth’s surface area.
It’s not global drought deaths
It’s not global flood deaths.
It’s not global fires and burns deaths. See OWI Data.
Not global ice because only 1.5 mm year SLR ( since 1850s) See latest Dutch engineers study.
Not deaths from famines, see latest record global calories intake.
Not a drier earth, because of extra co2 GREENING over the last 30 + years.
So what is their CC crisis, or is it just a TRILLIONs of $ scam to try and destroy the OECD countries?
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I wish someone could stand up in a parliament somewhere and ask those exact same questions.
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Yes Ronin, my thoughts as well and holding up some of the OWI Data graphs would cause howls and screams from the clueless donkeys and parasites.
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The only thing the COProlites were worried about was the continuation of their BSfest, it’s all about them.
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Lennia Luekin does another quick job to educate the public about the growth of Coral islands.
These 2 minute videos are a valuable resource for anyone wanting to learn the truth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9-ER1XO1sA
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“COP30 President André Corrêa do Lago laid out the stakes before delegates traveled to Belém, telling a Bloomberg Green event: “We have to convince people it’s worthwhile to continue to negotiate.””
Absolutely worthwhile for those on the gravy train for it to continue. At our expense.
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should read low energy hub
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The big problem is COP33. The 40th anniversary of the end of the world unless we eliminate fossil fuels.
And where in the world is the climate the biggest problem facing people? Wars everywhere and no one’s drowning. It’s unbelievable.
So who is going to pay for the party and all this world travel for 40,000 public servants and oil executives? We have to find a climate problem or lost species or disappearing forest. Something. The Polar bears really let everyone down!
We have to come up with something soon or the party will be over. But maybe Australian Climate Minister Chris Bowen can come up 40 billion? It will involve vast amounts of international travel and climate parties.
After all if Australia can afford Snowy II and massive wind farms despite being under no threat at all in the 2% of world population under the Tropic of Capricorn, they can afford anything? They can even afford not to export coal or gas. What champions!
Australia and the Arabs. There’s the solution. Climate forever!
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Remember, we even sent the US President Barack Obama there to blame the Australians for wrecking the Great Barrier Reef.
Now look at it! In perfect condition. Prettier than ever. Happy coral polyps. How very disappointing!
Of course no one expected former PM Malcolm Turnbull and his wife to use their private $444Million to fix it. Now look at it. Traitor. You just cannot trust some people.
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They have run out of scares.
Cannot get their $150Billion Climate Fund going.
No one wants to pay their $42Billion tax on bunker oil, world trade.
And most countries do not want to pay more for electrical power. Or freeze in winter.
So it’s a puzzle. What to do next. COP31 could be COP OUT. Australia may get it after all if the oil people stop paying.
Man made CO2 driven Climate Change still has its enthusiastic supporters, but when the banks turn on you, you know its over.
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This conspiracy has hung around a lot longer than I expected, I thought it was ginding to it’s inevitable end about a decade ago.
but I think the UN sees the writing on the wall and if they can’t get this global scare across the line it may be finally over for them because every other scare campaign they have run in their 80 years has failed to achieve their desire to become a global government and redistribute the wests wealth to the third world.
But there have been a few useful idiots like the Greens, Chris Bowen and Greta Thunberg who have fuelled a tiny flicker of hope that has kept it ticking over. It can’t go on much longer.
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