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    RicDre

    National Review wins, Michael Mann loses!

    The D.C. Superior Court dismissed Michael Mann’s lawsuit against the National Review today in a definitive way. The National Review was sued by Mann over a blog post that Mark Steyn posted in 2012 criticizing Mann’s work. Mark Steyn was not a National Review employee, and no one at the magazine had reviewed the post before he put it up.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/03/19/national-review-wins-michael-mann-loses/

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      Tilba Tilba

      I’m a little surprised this post has received no comment so far. Was it posted because it was a freedom of speech or freedom of forum victory, or mostly because it is a climate-change stoush? Hockey sticks versus warming-deniers?

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    RicDre

    The contradictory Green policies to limit CO2 emissions

    reposted from edmdotme

    Currently the burning of Biomass is designated as “CO2 neutral” by Western Nations to give the appearance of reducing CO2 emissions and thus controlling Climate Change. The designation of Biomass burning as being Carbon neutral is essentially self-defeating as:

    -burning Biomass massively increases the instantaneous output of CO2 emissions.
    -those instantaneous CO2 emissions from burning Biomass effectively cancels out any and all potential CO2 emissions savings from the deployment of Weather Dependent Renewable generation technologies.
    -is hugely destructive of natural environments and habitats wherever harvested at the necessary industrial scale.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/03/20/the-contradictory-green-policies-to-limit-co2-emissions/

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    RicDre

    Australian Financial Review Advises Readers to Embrace Climate Investments

    Guest essay by Eric Worrall

    According to the AFR, “You don’t want to own a portfolio that has a high allocation to carbon-intensive companies that cannot make the transition.”. Just one problem – there will be no green energy transition.

    How can I be so confident stating there will be no green energy transition? The reason is, top engineers and scientists, green enthusiasts who have examined the green transition in detail, have come away utterly dismayed at what they discovered.

    Can you think of a greener company than Google? Here is what top Stanford qualified Google scientists Ross Koningstein and David Fork had to say about the green transition.

    What It Would Really Take to Reverse Climate Change

    “At the start of RE<C, we had shared the attitude of many stalwart environmentalists: We felt that with steady improvements to today’s renewable energy technologies, our society could stave off catastrophic climate change. We now know that to be a false hope …

    Renewable energy technologies simply won’t work; we need a fundamentally different approach.”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/03/19/australian-financial-review-advises-investors-to-embrace-climate-investments/

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    skeptikal

    Professor Tim Flannery in 2007…

    So even the rain that falls isn’t actually going to fill our dams

    https://www.abc.net.au/local/archives/landline/content/2006/s1844398.htm
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    Real world in 2021…

    Sydney’s main water source, Warragamba Dam, has spilled over for the first time since 2016….

    … while the dam — which is about 70 kilometres from Sydney’s CBD — also spilled over in 2012 and 2013

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-20/warragamba-dam-overflows-for-first-time-in-years/13264590
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    Tim, we haven’t forgotten your prediction. That idiotic statement will haunt you for the rest of your life.

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      Greg in NZ

      My thoughts exactly: what a pile of wombat do. And to think the flooding rains commenced precisely on the autumn equinox, 20 March: climate, it would appear, is in perfect sync with the solar system clock (unlike some eggspurts’ deluded, misguided pronouncements). Enjoy the rain!

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      another ian

      “The Mammalogy credential that got Tim Flannery a $180K PA part time gig as Gillard’s climate guru”

      https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2021/03/the-mammalogy-credential-that-got-tim-flannery-a-180k-pa-part-time-gig-as-gillards-climate-guru.html

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      el gordo

      Flummery should be given the bill for useless desalination plants around the country, it was all his doing.

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        Sambar

        Well not Victoriastans desal plant E.G. After last years cool wet (very wet ) winter Victorias desal plant has been pumping water into Cardinia reservoir for the last year or so. I drive past this place about once a month and there for all to see is the inflow cascade just pouring down.
        Given that Victorias water catchments were in a very good position, wet, good inflows, and for all intents free from the heavens water, the fossil fuel powered deal plant has cost the populace big time. Only government could decide to produce expensive water when the free stuff was available just to prove that “we know best” to hell with environmental concerns. Fossil fuelled evaporation of sea water, pump the fresh water uphill for 60 kilometres or so and let the heavy brines flow back out to Bass strait. Not a peep from the greens!

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          Tim C

          I think the desal plant needs to be run periodically to stop the machinery from seizing up, similar to a car’s engine.

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        Ian

        The two desal plants in WA are certainly fully functioning. The Kwina desal plant was opened in 2006 and supplies on average 15% of Perth’s water. The Binningup desal plant was opened in 2011 and applies on average 30% or Perh’s water supply.

        These plants are far from useless

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      Travis T. Jones

      Note to Tim:
      Is now a bad time to talk about a BoM global warming permanent drought, or should we wait until half the country is on fire again?

      If carbon (sic) causes fires and floods, how do you know when it’s fixed?

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      Matthew

      Plenty of Flannery in NSW at the moment, I wonder where the clown is hiding at the moment.

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      Tilba Tilba

      Tim, we haven’t forgotten your prediction. That idiotic statement will haunt you for the rest of your life.

      Okay – Warragamba Dam has spilled, but so what? What about all the other dams that supply the Illawarra-Sydney-Hunter region, and the many other dams out in the bush?

      Your desire to attack the ABC is colouring your judgement, methinks. What is it about the ABC? Why so much hatred and venom? Landline has been a great program for 30 years … just because it doesn’t echo the deniers, doesn’t make it a lesser program.

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        Dave

        WOW!

        Nearly 978.7% total for all of the Greater Sydney dam levels

        I think the rains that fell will never be enough to fill your mind either!!

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        Hanrahan

        TT check YOUR bias at reception.

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          Tilba Tilba

          TT check YOUR bias at reception.

          I like the ABC and have always liked Landline … if that is “bias” – then I am proud of it!

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            Annie

            Landline was great 20-plus years ago. I never bother with it now. When I tried it once after our return to Australia a few years ago, I couldn’t believe how it had changed.

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        el gordo

        The Denialati want aunty to return to the centre.

        ‘The tension between the Morrison government and the national broadcaster will crank up on Tuesday when ABC managing director David Anderson is asked about ‘activist’ journalists.’ Oz

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        el gordo

        ‘… and the many other dams out in the bush?’

        Its a glass half full at the moment, but they should fill up by next weekend.

        https://www.waternsw.com.au/supply/regional-nsw/dam-levels

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        robert rosicka

        Tilba the ABC were this morning defending the decision of the green menace of not raising Warrangamba dam.
        Even did an interview with that hot bed of green propaganda the ANU and some “Expert” who was anti dam .

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          Tilba Tilba

          Aren’t there reasonable arguments both ways – on whether to raise the dam wall?

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            robert rosicka

            Yes Tilba there are a few reasonable arguments against building the wall higher .

            Even the rain that falls will never fill our rivers and dams.

            Rebuilding houses and repairing houses after such an event is an exciting and fun process for those affected.

            Insurance premiums Sky rocket and we all know they are too low.

            Sydney has plenty of drinking water and droughts never occur in the greater Sydney catchment area.

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        Ian

        TT, virtually all Conservatives attack the ABC. I have two long standing friends who are far right wing Conservatives and although both claim they don’t watch the ABC they certainly like to attack it with nauseating regularity

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          Bozotheclown

          I can’t decide whether to give you red thumbs for the comment or green thumbs for your “long standing” friends.

          Dare to invite them to comment here?

          Yeh I know those friends are imaginary aren’t they.

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          Tilba Tilba

          TT, virtually all Conservatives attack the ABC.

          Is this correct? A lot of fairly conservative people in the bush still love their ABC. I think the problem is, that many “Conservatives” see balanced and objective reporting as left wing. A hard thing to counter.

          I can only reiterate – acceptance of the role of fossil fuel emissions leading to global warming is wholly mainstream – it’s not a fringe lefty position!

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      Sirob

      I recall the moaning and groaning on an Australian fly fishing site pronouncing the end of trout streams and trout fishing on mainland Australia due to AGW/CO2.

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    tonyb

    I bet President Harris wouldn’t have stumbled on those airplane steps like former President Biden.

    https://order-order.com/2021/03/19/god-bless-america/

    What? Biden is still OFFICIALY President you say? Well who would have thought it. Lets be generous and give him to the end of the year.

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      David Wojick

      That long?

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      Susan Fraser

      https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/az-republicans-perform-full-hand-count-21-million-ballots-maricopa

      More and more people are seeing Biden is not really in charge. Proof of the stolen election is coming out.
      Are people rushing to have photos of themselves with ‘The President’? Where are all the Democrat celebs and World leaders. Good questions I saw somewhere this am but can’t quite find the source again.

      I Hope it will be over very soon

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        Tilba Tilba

        More and more people are seeing Biden is not really in charge. Proof of the stolen election is coming out.

        Are we now (still) in the same failed predictive category as:

        1. Rudy Giuliani and the Four Seasons Total Landscaping presser?
        2. Sidney Powell and the Kraken world of proof?
        3. The Texas Supreme Court challenge, backed by 17 other states?
        4. The MAGA storming of the US Capitol on 6 January?
        5. The inauguration of Donald Trump on 4 March?
        6. The inauguration of Donald Trump on 20 March?

        I’m not trying to be overly supercilious, but can you see that those of us who do not require tinfoil in our hats find all these “predictions” really ludicrous? The right has been carrying on like pork-chops since well before 3 November, and absolutely no prediction of any stripe has come true.

        I am particularly interested in the far-right constant meme that President Biden has a booking at the Alzheimer Hilton. Yes he stumbled on the steps up to AF1 – so? Donald Trump couldn’t walk down a gentle slope, nor sip a glass of water with one hand.

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          Bozotheclown

          Donald Trump couldn’t walk down a gentle slope, nor sip a glass of water with one hand.

          Another lie.

          He in fact did walk down that slope and since when must one drink with only one hand?

          You may imaging DJT was ailing from something but you have not accepted that Bidem IS ailing.

          You deniers really are wearisome.

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      Matthew

      He stumbled THREE times, that is surely elder abuse.

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    joseph

    From an interview with Dr. Ronald B. Brown and John C. A. Manley:

    Relative Versus Absolute Risk Reduction

    MANLEY: So exactly how much risk reduction are the manufacturers crediting their vaccine with?

    BROWN: The reduced risk of COVID-19 infection reported by the manufacturers is approximately 95%, which is an accurate relative risk reduction measure. However, missing from the vaccine reports are absolute risk reduction measures which are much more clinically relevant to the reduced risk of COVID-19 infection. The absolute risk reduction of the vaccines in the present critical appraisal is approximately 1%, indicating practically no clinical efficacy or usefulness of the vaccines to reduce COVID-19 infection.

    MANLEY: Essentially, then you are saying for all practical purposes, the vaccine is useless and ineffective?

    BROWN: For applied clinical and public health interventions, yes, they appear to be almost completely ineffective. The members of the FDA advisory committee overlooked FDA guidelines to include absolute reduction measures when reporting clinical trial outcomes to the public, leading to outcome reporting bias in the FDA’s authorization of the mRNA vaccines.

    The Hidden Truth Behind the Too-Good-to-be True COVID-19 Vaccines: An Interview with Dr. Ronald B. Brown, PhD – Global ResearchGlobal Research – Centre for Research on Globalization

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        Interesting. The vacc propaganda is certainly running at 150% and I’m neither pro nor anti vacc, just very suspicious, glad to avoid it for now, and feb up with the ABC and SBS adverts for vaccinations every night on TV. “Glory be! The massive floods may slow the vacc program by three days, THREE DAYS! Quick, tell everyone!”

        But to be clear about his point — isn’t part of the absolute risk argument potentially misleading too. (And it all depends on something I don’t see him mention — how long the vaccines will be effective for, or how much). If the absolute risk of catching Covid in a (?) three month period is already low, then the absolute risk starts small, and the vacc can’t really reduce a small number by much. Theoretically, if the vaccines were useful for a year or two the absolute risk of catching covid rises so the ARR would also potentially prevent a lot more infections. In addition every infection prevented may itself prevent some other infections. (Said with the proviso that we have no idea if vaccines will be useful for longer than a few months, and there are reasons to think they won’t be). 10,000 avoided infections out of 1,000,000 may blunt the wave, end the lockdowns sooner, reduce the peak.

        I’m just saying the Relative Risk reduction looks wildly high, but the absolute risk looks too low and the most useful numbers are somewhere still out there, probably uncollected. Until we see a whole nation vaccinate most of the population and then a year later see whether they didn’t get the same further waves as unvacced nations we don’t know, and even then we will struggle against the other 20 variables that affect results. (Though the experiment itself raises a lot of ethical questions especially when the people may not be aware of how experimental it is).

        I remain pro antiviral, dubious that vaccines will solve much. The biggest scandal of all IMHO is the lack of anti-viral options. The outrageous suppression of cheap effective treatments or prophylaxis, which may reduce the waves far more effectively and with lower risk than vaccines.

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          David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

          G’day Jo,
          More nasties.
          Found this. I tried to underline ” Poisons Standard” but it didn’t copy for me.

          ” Calcifediol monohydrate is not specifically scheduled in the current Poisons Standard. However, it is considered a derivative of vitamin D and is therefore covered by the existing schedule entries for Vitamin D.
          Vitamin D is currently listed in Schedules 3 and 4 and Appendix H of the Poisons Standard as follows:

          Schedule 4

          VITAMIN D for human internal therapeutic use except:

          in preparations containing 25 micrograms or less of vitamin D per recommended daily dose; or
          when included in Schedule 3. ”
          in:
          https://www.tga.gov.au/book-page/13-interim-decision-relation-calcifediol

          It’s dated 2019. TGA is “Therapeutic Goods Administration” in Australia.
          25 micrograms is 4000 IU, insufficient to stop COVID according to my reading.

          Did someone back then know it would work in larger doses and decide
          to declare it a poison, as they did with HCQ?
          Cheers
          Dave B

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          joseph

          Layers, and layers, and layers . . . .

          There is a 30 minute video on the link below, by a Dr. David Martin, that brings more aspects into view. One being that the trials that were done by the vaccine companies weren’t set up to determine rates of infection, or of transmission. Another being that the Pfizer and Moderna ‘vaccines’ don’t actually qualify as being vaccines according to the definitions that apply. You have to wonder if a possible reduction in symptoms is a good enough reason to inject everyone on earth, with brand new combinations of substances and nano creations! They’ve even begun trying them out on very young children!

          Jo, you didn’t hear on the ABC, or SBS, or any of the others, that because of the floods people won’t be able to get any D3 or Zinc or vitamin C or Ivermectin or ? . . . . . . is it possible you weren’t listening carefully enough. 🙂

          Methinks the page below is quite an eye opener . . . .

          https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/02/09/coronavirus-mrna-vaccine.aspx?ui=ecab900284ef9c0b248ec91caa4267e6d92fc7c0a18fb37c5430939e43e3d177&sd=20090726&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1ReadMore&cid=20210209&mid=DM790974&rid=1079400606

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          Peter C

          I’m neither pro nor anti vacc, just very suspicious, glad to avoid it for now

          I am the same. I am not asking for the vaccine yet (or at all).

          I’m just saying the Relative Risk reduction looks wildly high, but the absolute risk looks too low and the most useful numbers are somewhere still out there, probably uncollected. Until we see a whole nation vaccinate most of the population and then a year later see whether they didn’t get the same further waves as unvacced nations we don’t know, and even then we will struggle against the other 20 variables that affect results. (Though the experiment itself raises a lot of ethical questions especially when the people may not be aware of how experimental it is).

          I don’t understand all of this. The vaccine is Experimental? Ok Lets wait and see.

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          tonyb

          Jo

          I suspect that covid vaccinations (which I have had) may turn out to be like painting the forth bridge-a Never ending task. If the vaccine has efficacy for six months, then even at the UK’s supercharged rate, those vaccinated in January will need revaccination by june/july just as the UK has finished vaccinating every adult. If its every 12 months that the jab is needed then it becomes more like the flu jab, which happens once a year, but complicated by this insane desire -unique to covid- that we must vaccinate every adult, whether or not their risk is tiny, so the logistics remain huge.

          So as yet, we don’t know if it is going to be like the Forth bridge, or more like repainting the windows on our houses, every five years or so (in theory)

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          OldOzzie

          Jo,

          I am going to wait till I discuss with my Oncologist in May

          I am a bit concerned re AstraZeneca, especially as “But member state from Italy to Austria have reported cases of rare blood clots forming in patients with low blood-platelet counts.” – with my low immunity, and given Australia’s low cases, want to see how it goes.

          I will take my normal Flu Shot late April.

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          Roger Knights

          Here’s a favorable 25-page preprint that appeared on March 19, two days ago,

          “Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: a Systematic Review and Meta-analysis”
          Andrew Bryant, Population Health Sciences Institute, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, UK (Corresponding Author)
          Theresa A. Lawrie, Evidence based Medicine Consultancy, Bath, UK.
          (Plus four others)
          https://assets.researchsquare.com/files/rs-317485/v1/611bf808-b0eb-4a9a-b877-6d6cc8f79d54.pdf
          JoNova: “The biggest scandal of all IMHO is the lack of anti-viral options. The outrageous suppression of cheap effective treatments or prophylaxis, which may reduce the waves far more effectively and with lower risk than vaccines.”

          If Ivermectin proves its worth in the next six months or so, Big Med will stand accused of causing hundreds of thousands of deaths by dragging its feet (and worse) on studying and recommending Ivermectin, for no good reason—and for some bad ones.

          For instance, to protect the sales of Merck’s then-in-development drug molnupiravir (pronounced mol-nup-ira-vir), which looks to fill the same niche as Ivermectin, but at a big profit. (TrialSite News said, “Merck … spent over $400 million to acquire a novel therapeutics company [that held the rights to it] and shortly thereafter received $356 million from the U.S. government for COVID-19 experimentation.” [On it, I assume])

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      another ian

      The True Nolan says:
      20 March 2021 at 6:35 pm
      @Simon Derricutt: “Relevant here is https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2021/03/20/covid19-hidden-figures-and-ooda/ where Dr. Kendrick also can’t make sense of the published figures.”

      Great link, very well thought out essay, thanks. I would add that the numbers concerning COVID remind me strongly of the fraudulent numbers which the CAGW alarmists have been using for 20 years to justify their scam. The closer you look, the more you see that many of them are simply lying. I just left a comment at Dr. Kendrick’s site which I am appending here:

      “It is important to notice that the data is bad — but notice also that it is bad in ways that are not attributable to normal human error. No honest professional with knowledge of the field would run PCR tests at 40 or 45 cycles – but that standard was ordered adopted. No honest professional with knowledge of the field would ascribe a death as due to COVID solely on the basis of a known faulty positive test result, and yet that standard was accepted in various locations all over the world. No honest professional would use lies and fraudulent “studies” to demonize promising alternative treatments such as Ivermectin, Vitamin D, zinc, and HCQ. Very similar statements can be made about many other COVID policies, such as sending elderly patients back to their care homes to infect other elders, or denying and delaying medical care to sufferers of cancer, heart disease, etc., or doing massive lockdowns of populations not at risk or showing symptoms. The point is that yes, the data is bad and IT HAS BEEN MADE BAD ON PURPOSE. One can reasonably assume that we have been lied to in order to make us do something which we would NOT do were we told the truth.” ”

      More at https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/03/17/differences-in-covid-trends-confusing/#comment-141152

      And the item above that

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      Kalm Keith

      🙂

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      Following are the absolute risk reduction numbers I used as one important reason for avoiding a COVID vaccine. The second reason is I had an allergic reaction to a vaccine as a child, and have never had a vaccine since, on doctors orders, Not even a smallpox vaccine. I also considered all ten people I know who tested positive for COVID. Five were barely sick. None went to a hospital and none died. All aged from 50 to 75 ! You’ll have to subtract the two numbers to get the absolute risk reduction:

      Absolute risk reduction is the:
      % taking placebo who get COVID symptoms
      minus the
      % taking injection who get COVID symptoms

      I believe the official numbers below were based on a few months of data before the injections got their amazingly fast emergency approval:

      For the Pfizer/BioNtech injection:
      Type of COVID % taking placebo % taking injection
      “Non-severe” 0.88% 0.044%
      “Severe” 0.04% 0.005%

      For the Moderna injection:
      Type of COVID % taking placebo % taking injection
      “Non-severe” 1.33% 0.08%
      “Severe” 0.22% 0.00%

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        Chad

        Richard, …
        …….i 100% agree with your position, particularly due to you history with vaccines .
        Further i am very sceptical as to the validity of much of the scary data, death numbers …etc…
        However, it is fairly certain that ultimately the authorities will impose a requirement for a vaccination certificate before we can travel internationally. (Maybe even interstate ?)..
        So, be aware that you may well be locking yourself into an Australian based futire, if you do not get Vaccinated.

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          Sirob

          It’s time to resist a vaccine certificate, period.

          I’m not taking a vaccine on the basis that if I don’t, I can’t travel. It’s time to overturn this tyranny on principle.

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            you’ll be fighting the airlines not just the multipe governments of the countries and the world that you wont be flying into.

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              Sirob

              Irrelevant, principle of autonomy and liberty are at stake. They all need to be toppled and true representatives take their place.

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              Kalm Keith

              Do the jabs confer immunity from catching the disease if exposed to it?

              Do the jabs stop others being contaminated by you, the vaccinated.

              The question is relevant in the normal sense and also from the possibility that the “vaccination” may activate CV19 in those in close proximity.

              How long does the “vaccination” effect last for.

              Questions.

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          Kalm Keith

          I will be very very, extremely unhappy if I have to produce a certificate of “Vaccination” to go overseas.

          I’ve never been an AntiVaxer, but in this case the two major pushes behind the CV19 Jab are undoubtedly of no medical benefit to me or my contacts.

          Jabs are all about;
          1. Money – profit and
          2. Control.

          True vaccines are about ;
          1. Good health, and thriving community and
          2. Freedom.

          KK

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    Travis T. Jones

    Dear ScoMo,
    Is there a tax I can pay to stop covid 19, or does that only work on doomsday global warming?

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    RicDre

    Borrow and Hope – for the Planet?

    Guest post by Barry Brill,

    If the Earth is cooking, does it really matter how much money we borrow or print to cool it down? If we fail, we won’t even be here to pay it back. If it works, there will be plenty of profits and taxes to get the economy back in balance.

    Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) is the Holy Grail for those well-intentioned folk on the left of politics who look at our world through dark-tinted glasses.

    They blame a heartless capitalist system for poverty, joblessness, inequality and other economic, social and environmental ills. They give very scant credit to that system for the sharp global improvement in all these areas over recent decades.

    The left grieve that so many worthwhile projects are binned because sympathetic governments just don’t have enough money. Their long-standing reputation for “borrow and hope” policies is well earned.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/03/20/borrow-and-hope-for-the-planet/

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    With electrical power generation such a complex thing, perhaps the most difficult thing to explain to people is that renewable power plants generate such tiny amounts of electricity when compared to the coal fired plants they are ‘supposed to’ replace, something that they patently cannot do, and this can be sheeted home when comparing what for so long was the largest wind plant in Australia, Macarthur Wind, and how it has been in operation now for eight years, and the total power delivered from it is around the same as delivered from Bayswater in just 160 days.

    Exactly the same comparison ….. minute to huge can also be used when talking about the subsidies paid to power generation sources.

    Now, we all know that renewable power is subsidised beyond understanding, and in reality, if renewable power is already so much cheaper than all other sources of power generation then they really have no need for those subsidies eh! And therein lies the reason that they claim renewables are so cheap, because they do not take into account any of those hidden subsidies.

    However, always that big nyah nyah nyah! from renewables supporters is that fossil fuelled power sources are also receiving subsidies as well, and as those greenie followers say, fossil fuelled power generating sources receive way more than the puny amounts that renewables receive anyway.

    One side says one thing and the other side counters with their claims, and everyone just ….. ‘says’ what they say.

    So then, is there any comparison?

    Well yes, there is, and it relates ….. ‘exactly’ to electrical power generation I mentioned above, how coal fired power delivers huge amounts of power compared to the tiny amounts of power delivered by those two renewables of choice, wind and solar.

    The Texas Public Policy Foundation conducted a major enquiry into this subsidies thing, and released a long findings paper, well, a book really, as all these enquiries release hundreds and hundreds of pages of findings, and titled Federal Energy Subsidies And Support From 2010 To 2019.

    So, what they have done is to compare the subsidies on the basis of subsidy dollars per unit of electricity generated, and that actually is a fair comparison, considering coal fired power generates huge amounts of electricity, and renewables so little.

    They found that Solar power gets just under $83 in subsidies per MWH, wind power gets $18.86 per MWH and coal fired power receives 73 cents per MWH.

    So solar gets 113 times the subsidies of coal fired power, and wind receives just under 26 times the subsidies of coal fired power.

    THAT shows the inequities of the arguments of those renewables supporters when trying to justify the money given to renewable power to deliver what amounts to so very little power.

    Here’s the link to an image of that chart for subsidy dollars per unit of electricity generated.

    The same might apply here in Australia, because (dare I even mention it) Australia uses the same model as used on a World wide basis.

    Tony.

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      Hanrahan

      Are those subsidies for coal calculated before or after state royalties on coal mining are considered?

      Didn’t Dan Tha Man double royalties in Vic?

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        robert rosicka

        I thought he tripled royalties.

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        Chad

        Hanrahan
        March 21, 2021 at 9:34 am ·
        Are those subsidies for coal calculated before or after state royalties on coal mining are considered?
        Didn’t Dan Tha Man double royalties in Vic

        FYI.,..and just for accuracy..
        Yes, but Victoria only increased the coal Royalty to be the same as NSW, and QLD.

        The royalty rate charged per gigajoule of energy will rise from 7.6 cents to 22.8 per cents under the measure, which will be announced in the state budget on Wednesday.

        Treasurer Tim Pallas said the move would bring Victoria into line with New South Wales and Queensland.

        “The royalty rate hasn’t changed in a decade and this will simply bring Victoria into line with the other states,” he said.

        “Victoria has and will continue to have the lowest cost of energy production in Australia and power companies can easily absorb this change.”

        New South Wales charges a per-gigajoule royalty of 25.2 cents, while Queensland charges 21.5 cent, he added

        So the cost increase of 15c per Gj represents a cost increase to the generator of $060. .(60 cents)… per MW of Electricity.
        Hardly enough to crash an industry !

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      Kevin kilty

      This is something that most people can understand; a bar chart showing subsidies normalized by a reasonable standard. Of course there are some who will believe it is part of a conspiracy to undermine renewables, but it might sway independents.

      I think the URL is this.

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      Paul Miskelly

      Hi Tony,
      A suggested correction that does not in any way detract from your analysis:
      “… and the total energy delivered from it is around the same as delivered from Bayswater in 160 days.” That is, it would be more correct to use the term “energy” rather than “power”, I would think.
      Best regards,
      Paul Miskelly

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    OldOzzie

    For JoNova Opera Lovers – you can watch for free Operas currently during Covid on Met Opera on Demand if you have an Apple TV or (in my case) ROKU – watching last night Met Opera Barber of Seville with SubTitles what struck me was the relevance of the following to Christian Porter

    “The Art of Slander,” Don Basilio’s Aria from The Barber of Seville (Gioacchino Rossini, 1815)

    Let me teach you the art of slander,
    So ethereal you scarcely feel it.
    Not a motion will reveal it,
    Till it gently, o so gently,
    Almost imperceptibly begins to grow.
    First a murmur, slowly seeping,
    Then a whisper, slowing creeping,
    Slyly sneaking, softly sliding,
    Faintly humming, smoothly gliding.
    Then it suddenly commences,
    Coming nearer, reaching people’s ears and senses.
    First a mere insinuation,
    Just a hinted accusation,
    Slowly growing to a rumor,
    Which will shortly start to flow.
    What began as innuendo
    Soon is swelling in crescendo;
    Gossip turning into scandal,
    Stopping nowhere, hard to handle;
    Louder, bolder, brazen sounding,
    Stomping, beating, thumping, pounding,
    Shrieking, banging, booming, clanging,
    Spreading horror through the air.
    Rising higher, overflowing,
    Whipped to fury, madly growing,
    Like a stream of lava pouring,
    Like a mighty cannon roaring.
    A tremendous tempest raking,
    A tornado splitting, shaking,
    Like the day of judgment breaking,
    Pandemonium ev’rywhere!
    And the victim, poor accused one,
    Wretched, slandered and abused one,
    Has to slink away in shame
    And wish he never had been born.

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    Lance

    Some good tech info for sportsmen out there

    https://aardvarkreloading.com/index.html

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    Lance

    Iceland volcano erupts. All flights in/out of Iceland are halted.

    “Fagradals Mountain volcano had been dormant for 6,000 years, and the Reykjanes Peninsula hadn’t seen an eruption of any volcano in 781 years.”

    https://www.iceagenow.info/long-dormant-iceland-volcano-erupts-near-reykjavik-first-eruption-in-800-years/#more-35108

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    RickWill

    The null school global map now has Convective Available Potential energy included. This is available going back to July 2016.

    It is interesting to watch the development of cyclone Debbie in 2017. The CAPE needed to spin it up is evident on 22 March:
    https://earth.nullschool.net/#2017/03/21/2100Z/wind/surface/level/overlay=cape/orthographic=-211.88,-25.90,712/loc=154.678,-15.183
    By 24 March the CAPE is feeding a deep low:
    https://earth.nullschool.net/#2017/03/23/2100Z/wind/surface/level/overlay=cape/orthographic=-211.88,-25.90,712/loc=150.587,-15.730
    By 28 March it has developed to a deep low of 991hPa just off the coast:
    https://earth.nullschool.net/#2017/03/26/2100Z/wind/surface/level/overlay=mean_sea_level_pressure/orthographic=-211.88,-25.90,712/loc=150.123,-19.154

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    Hanrahan

    Joe didn’t just fall on the steps of AF1, he was dodging sniper bullets.

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    Analitik

    More signs of desperation (+ more excuses) in South Australia as the AEMO is forces ElectraNet to switch off solar systems for “Smarter Homes” in order to maintain enough synchronous generation to maintain system security.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-17/solar-panels-switched-off-in-sa-to-stabilise-grid/13256572

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      Graeme#4

      It may only be the solar systems fitted to “Smarter Homes” in SA than currently can be switched off.

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        Analitik

        Those are the only ones that can be switched off directly. Other residential solar systems can be switched off by allowing overvoltage to cause the inverter protection circuits to shut down which is technically illegal but has been resorted to at times by desperate grid operators

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    Hanrahan

    A question for our American friends, or more correctly the Texans: Do people routinely walk around with open carry and if so does it freak out “foreigners”? I reckon I could live with it, even see the funny side.

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      red edwards

      Open carry has been legal since 2016 here in Texas.

      https://www.houston-criminalattorney.com/open-carry-laws-in-texas/

      Other than police officers, I have not seen one instance of open carry since then. Of course, I don’t spend much time in rural areas. (While Texas is a park compared to Australia, it is still rather nasty terrain in rural regions, with poisonous snakes, rabid animals, Wild boars (Javalina), and the rare politician. (There is a closed season on politicians. . . ))

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    Peter C

    IF – A Poem by Rudyard Kipling,

    A well known poem. Does it mean anything to us?

    Maybe it does. The first version here is read by Sir Michael Caine.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEFMVIfl2UY

    Second Version shows the poem with images of Donald Trump and his presidency.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WstYMmsdFqo

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    williamx

    Can Diverting Solar To Air Conditioning Help Reduce Overvoltage? Paladin Says Yes

    https://blog.solarpowerandenergytips.com/2020/09/02/can-diverting-solar-to-air-conditioning-help-reduce-overvoltage-paladin-says-yes/

    My comment.

    Who is the author Richard Chirgwin?

    In his words:
    “Richard Chirgwin is a journalist with more than 30 years’ experience covering a wide range of technology topics, including electronics, telecommunications, computing and science.”

    His article is dated September 2, 2020.

    Ken Smith, Chief developer, of Paladin was interviewed by Richard Chirgwin.

    A quote from the reported article:

    “modern air conditioning units have included a “Demand Response Enabling Device”, or DRED.

    The DREDs were implemented at the request of electricity companies so that if there’s a shortage of power (for example, during a heatwave or when electricity supply is disrupted), the network can turn air conditioners down or off.

    Smith told us his idea was the INVERSE of what the networks do – turn the aircon on or up to soak up excess solar electricity from a household PV system.”

    End quote.

    My comment.

    Brilliant!

    Stabilise the EXCESS energy in the grid, by using my privately owned air conditioner.

    So I will have to give the network total control of my air conditioner.
    As well as having the control to shut my AC off, they now want the control to turn it on at their whim.

    Why do I need my A/C remote controller when I can just let the network decide what’s best.

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      Chad

      william,
      I would be surprised if Automated Demand responce can be activated on any “domestic”. AC system.
      It is normally only applied tolarge commercial systems and only by agreement with the owners..
      For domestic Solar excess generation, the plan is not to divert the solar power, but to use the DRED system to shut off the solar completely, AND force all the household demand to be fed from the grid. But that requires a DRED enabled Solar Inverter…which most new ones are now.

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        williamx

        Thanks Chad.

        Your quote:

        “I would be surprised if Automated Demand responce can be activated on any “domestic”. AC system.”

        End quote.

        ok.

        Mitsubishi and Daikin, in Australia have domestic DRED…

        I know, because I have both and I did not thoroughly read their corresponding PDS.
        I have now.

        This is my Mitsubishi air conditioner.

        http://www.mhi.co.jp/technology/review/pdf/e512/e512038.pdf#:~:text=In%20Australia%2C%20in%20particular%2C%20the%20demand%20response%20standard,purchase%20of%20products%20conforming%20to%20the%20DRED%20standards.

        I do not know if other manufacturers domestic A/Cs are DRED.

        Can it be (your quote) “activated”. I don’t know

        That aside.

        You state:

        “For domestic Solar excess generation, the plan is not to divert the solar power, but to use the DRED system to shut off the solar completely, AND force all the household demand to be fed from the grid. But that requires a DRED enabled Solar Inverter…which most new ones are now.”

        I ask you… to shut off solar completely, how many DRED solar inverters are presently installed in Australia? and how many need to be retrofitted in the future? Do you know? as I don’t know.

        ok

        I will repost the quote by the journalist Richard Chirgwin.

        The quote:

        “Smith told us his idea was the INVERSE of what the networks do – turn the aircon on or up to soak up excess solar electricity from a household PV system.”

        That is the quote.

        Ken Smith is the Chief developer. This is what he wants to enable. He designs. He has used hot water Systems as an excess energy soak.
        Now he wants to use domestic air conditioning linked.

        Imho follow the money.

        btw, Chad, I am your ally,
        email Ken Smith, Richard Chirgwin and “Solar power and energy tips”, and prosecute your argument with them.. They made the statements.

        It is not me you need to argue against.

        I am just the messenger.

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          Chad

          William,
          I am not arguing for or against any position.
          Im just repeating what AEMO have said regarding how they propose to deal with the RT Solar “over generation” issues in SA and other regeons in future.
          I understand there are now regulations that all new inverters in..and presumeablystalled in designated areas must have the ADR functionality…
          And presumably. Consumers will have to agree to accept those ADR functions as part of a supply agreement.
          Also , i do not believe “turning ON” any electrical device in domestic property without prior agreement and notification is either legal, safe, ethical, or very effective, compared to fully shutting off the solar supply and switching to grid power which would be at least 3 times more effective.
          The system is now authorised for use and has been employed in SA already
          https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/solar-panels-switched-off-by-energy-authorities-to-stabilise-south-australian-electricity-grid/ar-BB1eFt4D

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            robert rosicka

            All new solar installs and replacement inverters have had to have the remote switch off device for the last few years I thought , they don’t throttle the power back they shut it off .
            Would be interesting to know if this also happened for houses with solar and batteries or do they just disconnect from the grid .

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              Chad

              Robert,
              I believe inverters have long had the ability to remotely cut the feed back TO the grid, but only recently have they included the functionality to completely shut off the panel supply to the household,..which i believe also isolates the battery back up…..
              But only very recently have AEMO been given authority to actually use that functionality…Via the various service suppliers in SA.

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                robert rosicka

                I suspected as much , just after the install 8 years ago a contractor fitted an aerial to the outside of the switch cabinet and some extra hardware inside the cabinet .

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            Graeme#4

            Chad, I don’t believe that the current Australian Standards for solar inverter manufacturers specifically include a clause for remote inverter switch off. I though that the SA inverters mentioned in your quoted article were part of a special scheme. Happy to be corrected if wrong.

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              Graeme#4

              Should have added a comment to say that I presume we aren’t talking about the inverter overvoltage shutdown function.

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                Chad

                Graeme,
                My understanding is that all inverters have the “Over voltage “ output cut off feature.
                I also have read that many existing inverters are already fitted with the “panel isolation” functionality, but not activated in most states other than SA ..( & possibly WA ?).. Software updated may be required to activate it.
                Further i suspect all new inverters will have to include this feature to comply with regulations.
                But i could be corrected on any of these points !

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                Chad

                G 4
                The inverter requirement id definitely a regulation for SA, and as this article says,.. it is common on many inverters sold nationwide.
                https://www.solarquotes.com.au/blog/sma-remote-shutdown/

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      Lucky

      Traditional (male white colonialist capitalist) power planning matches generation to customer demand.
      New improved planning matches use to production. You may, selfishly, think you need aircon as it is hot, and the wind is not blowing. You will have the power for your aircon when the wind blows.
      (Should be a song about this).
      Since the power company must take the wind power, it is only fair that you must take the aircon.

      Caution- possible sarc detected

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    RicDre

    BP to develop UK’s largest hydrogen factory in Teesside

    Reposted from NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT

    MARCH 20, 2021

    By Paul Homewood

    BP is planning to build a vast hydrogen factory in Teesside to provide energy for local industry and homes.

    Its H2Teesside could be producing hydrogen from natural gas – so-called ‘blue’ hydrogen – by 2027 or earlier with a target of generating 1GW of hydrogen by 2030.

    The Government wants to develop 5GW of hydrogen production by 2030 as part of its effort to cut carbon emissions.

    Hydrogen does not emit carbon when burned, although making it from natural gas as opposed to via electrolysis (dubbed ‘green’ hydrogen) does produce vast amounts of carbon dioxide.

    I can guarantee one thing – this investment will only go ahead on the back of massive subsidies, probably via a Contracts for Difference type scheme, similar to the way offshore wind farms are subsidised.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/03/21/bp-to-develop-uks-largest-hydrogen-factory-in-teesside/

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      Chad

      H2Teesside could be producing hydrogen from natural gas – so-called ‘blue’ hydrogen – by 2027 or earlier with a target of generating 1GW of hydrogen by 2030.

      What is “1GW of hydrogen” ..??
      I thought hydrogen was measured in Tons or kgs.. ?
      And Energy content is measured in GWh..?

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        robert rosicka

        Large quantities of Hydrogen should be measured using the standard unit of measurement, “Olympic sized swimming pools” is my preference!

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    RicDre

    Fake Hurricane News Exposed: Average Day Of First Hurricane Formation “Contrary To Media Reports”

    Reposted from the NoTricksZone

    By P Gosselin on 20. March

    Lazy, uncritical media again fail to adequately examine data to produce misleading “news”

    Tropical storm expert Dr. Ryan Maue analyzed data on whether or not climate change was leading the first named hurricane occurring to be earlier and earlier each year, thus meaning a longer hurricane season, as the media have recently claimed.

    Media falsehoods exposed again

    Maue wrote: “Turns out contrary to media reports today, the average first day of hurricane formation has become LATER on average almost 12-days comparing 1950-1970 to 2000-2020.”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/03/21/fake-hurricane-news-exposed-average-day-of-first-hurricane-formation-contrary-to-media-reports/

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    David Wojick

    My latest. The question that kills renewables (if asked):
    How will you provide power on hot or cold low wind nights?
    https://www.cfact.org/2021/03/21/it-takes-big-energy-to-back-up-wind-and-solar/

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    Travis T. Jones

    A ‘must see’ for anyone who wants an end to the pandemic, the lockdowns, and is concerned about the vaccination …

    Peter McCullough, MD testifies to Texas Senate HHS Committee

    “the most published person in his field (which deals with heart and kidneys) in the world, in history”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAHi3lX3oGM

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      Hanrahan

      Dr. McCullough speaks of colchicine. Many gout sufferers will know it as “colgout”, effective but a potent laxative. ergo I use indocid [indometacin],

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    el gordo

    US politics will never be the same.

    ‘Former US President Donald Trump plans to launch “his own platform” to return to social media in two to three months, one of his senior advisers told Fox News on Sunday.

    ‘Mr Trump has been suspended from Twitter, Facebook and other social media sites since the attack on the Capitol on 6 January.

    ‘Jason Miller, a spokesman for Mr Trump’s 2020 campaign, told the network that Mr Trump would re-enter the social media space with a new platform of his own that would “completely redefine the game.” (SBS)

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    Hanrahan

    Trump could make a comeback on social media, but here’s the twist…..

    A “senior adviser” says he may be back on social media soon but on a new platform.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOob1yEFZ3I

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    el gordo

    Blocking high pressure causes catastrophic floods in south east Australia.

    http://www.bom.gov.au/fwo/IDY65100.pdf

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      how about the commenters last week who said this wouldn’t happen. The BOM can’t be trusted. I hope they nonetheless moved their cows to high ground.

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      robert rosicka

      Reporters keep asking people in flooded areas of NSW the usual questions about biggest flood you’ve ever seen etc but one bloke on Sky just then said when he was a kid in the 70’s they had 6 weeks of similar rain not just six days like now so yes it wasn’t “ unprecedented “ to him .

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        so one anecdote. Any fact checking? Was it in the same location?

        Also, so what. Some blokes personal experience hardly diminishes or negates everyone else’s subjective assessment.

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          Chad

          Initially the MSM news reports on the erain called it a “one in one Hundred year” event.
          But now i notice the have all changed to call it a. “One in fifty year” event ..!
          So obviously they have realised something happened in the ‘60s/‘70s that exceeded this current Wet .

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          another ian

          Gee! Eh!

          “A bit of research for the Opportunistic Adam Bandt on NSW & Qld flooding.”

          https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2021/03/a-bit-of-research-for-the-opportunistic-adam-bandt-on-nsw-qld-flooding.html

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          el gordo

          If we go back 65 years as a starting point.

          ‘The Hunter Valley Floods (also known as the Maitland Flood) of 23 February 1955 was a major flood on the Hunter River in New South Wales, Australia. ‘They were one of the most devastating natural disasters in Australia’s history.

          ‘The flood overwhelmed rivers on both sides of the Great Dividing Range, creating an inland sea the size of England and Wales.’ (wiki)

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          el gordo

          BoM finally noticed the blocking, a global cooling signal.

          ‘Browne said a third weather system – an area of stationary high pressure between Tasmania and New Zealand – had been pushing winds on to the NSW coast for more than a week.

          ‘Weather systems usually liked to travel from west to east, he said, but the high pressure was “stubbornly there”, acting as a block.’ (Guardian)

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          el gordo

          Fact Check, its not an east coast low.

          ‘The largest peak occurred around 1950 and 1956, the second largest around 1973 and 1974 and the third around 2010. Each of these 5 years occurred during negative phases of the Interdecadal Pacific Oscillation (IPO) and positive phases of the Southern Oscillation Index (SOI).

          ‘Studies have shown that the SOI is a climate driver in the MDB along with a persistent blocking high-pressure systems south of Australia along longitude 1408E with a low to its north. Three major blocking events with record rainfall and flooding in the MDB occurred in 1983, 1984 and 1990.

          ‘This was during the period 1977–1990 when blocking was conducive to heavy rain in the MDB and was coincident with a positive phase of the IPO, thus helping conflict with the IPO–MDB heavy rainfall relationship. Persistent and unexplained middle level westerly winds kept subtropical Queensland clear of tropical cyclones during the negative phases of the IPO from 1999 to 2009 and during the 1960s, influencing low rainfall in the MDB during those periods.

          Jeff Callaghan 2020

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          robert rosicka

          Exactly Gee Aye so why do reporters place so much emphasis looking for “unprecedented” , we’ve had it here in our local rag when a storm passed over and ripped up a section of road, they found two local farmers who had lived in the area for (insert number here) years .
          Turns out it was about 15 years before that the exact same section was ripped up during another storm so unprecedented and weather has no context and no relevance whatsoever considering the planet was once a boiling cauldron of melted rock and at times frozen , with everything and anything in between.

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      Roger Knights

      Did Greens oppose the construction of a dam or dams that would have lessened the flood level?

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        robert rosicka

        They went to the United Nations to stop the raising of Warangamba dam and I’m sure there was one or two others they prevented in the region of the floods .

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    OldOzzie

    Scientists Say They Found Cause of Rare Blood Clotting Linked to AstraZeneca Vaccine

    German, Norwegian researchers say rare autoimmune reaction is behind several cases of brain blood clotting, and suggest a possible treatment for it

    Several European countries briefly halted their rollouts of the vaccine this week after more than 30 recipients were diagnosed with the condition known as cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, or CVST. Most of the people affected were women under the age of 55.

    The issue affected a tiny portion of those who had received the shot, however, and after investigating, the European drugs regulator ruled that the benefits outweighed the potential risks of the vaccine, and recommended vaccinations resume.

    Pål André Holme, a professor of hematology and chief physician of the Oslo University Hospital who headed an investigation into the Norwegian cases, said his team had identified an antibody created by the vaccine that was triggering the adverse reaction.

    A team of German researchers around Andreas Greinacher, professor of transfusion medicine at the Greifswald University Clinic, said Friday they had independently come to the same conclusion as Prof. Holme.

    In Germany, 13 cases of CVST were detected among around 1.6 million people who received the AstraZeneca vaccine. Twelve patients were women and three died.

    The German researchers, who coordinated with colleagues in Austria, Ireland and Britain, said in a statement that patients who show symptoms four days after vaccination, such as headaches, dizziness or impaired vision, could be quickly diagnosed with a blood test. Prof. Greinacher said the news meant that people shouldn’t fear the vaccine.

    “Very, very few people will develop this complication,” Prof. Greinacher said in a press conference Friday. “But if it happens, we now know how to treat the patients.”

    He said that, after a swift diagnosis, the condition could be treated in any midsize hospital.

    Dr. Robert Klamroth, deputy chairman of the Society for Thrombosis and Hemostasis Research, said the rare autoimmune reaction occurred more frequently in Germany because the country initially only authorized the vaccine for people younger than 64. Britain, which had fewer incidents but vaccinated many more people, was predominantly giving the shot to older recipients.

    Once diagnosed, the condition should be treated with blood thinning medication and immunoglobulin, which targets the antibody that causes the problem. “We believe the most likely hypothesis is that this particular vaccine is causing a rare autoimmune reaction that triggers antibodies, which then interact with the platelets, but we don’t know why this is happening,” Dr. Klamroth said.

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    Peter C

    Does any one understand the weather pattern that is bringing so much rain to NSW?
    http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/charts/synoptic_col.shtml

    We have a high pressure in the Tasman Sea. Normally that would not bring much rain. A low in the Tasman Sea is a different matter.

    None the less the High Pressure is bringing a lot of rain. Why?

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    CHRIS

    Peter…the High in the Tasman is much further south than usual. This means that multiple troughs, from NW Australia to the E Coast has been the primary driver over the last week or so. The cold front presently crossing NSW and Victoria will clear the weather temporarily, but not for long. La Nina is still very strong, and won’t start to weaken until April. Therefore, expect more rain for E Australia (but not as bad as has occurred over the past week).

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