By Jo Nova
The Blob cometh to shake some more money out of us
Australia is due to set a global weather target for 2035 in September, so the UN sent a former Minister of Climate Resilience from Grenada to poke pins in his Voodoo dolls on national TV. He invoked the No-Fruit Incantation and prophesied that Australians will only get one bit of fruit a year, which is 99.7% reduction from current production levels of 150 kilograms per capita. No one batted an eyelid. The ABC repeated it all, unquestioningly.
What no one said, was that thanks to the horrors of extra CO2 the world now grows twice as much fruit for every, man women and child, as we did in 1960. It’s that bad.
In toto, following The “UN Science” — fossil fuels have thus caused total global production of fruit to increase five fold. Even though we were besieged by all those droughts and floods, fungus, rat plagues and jellyfish, somehow we all grew five times as much fruit.
As we can see, this is the total collapse of global living standards, graphed by the OWID:
Perhaps being ludicrous is the point?
There is not one thing that makes any sense about his speech. The threats about fruit are like a nanny berating a preschooler.
While speaking to investors in Sydney, Mr Stiell surely knew, just as they all knew, that what he was saying was preposterous fruity nonsense. Either the bloated corruption at the UN has run off the rails, which is believable, or perhaps there’s a kind of perverse psychological warfare going on here. Maybe the message he was sending is that the UN is so powerful they can send nobodies who say crazy things, and they don’t get laughed out of town? In a stock market boom, investors are not asking if it makes sense, they just want to know if it will keep going.
UN climate chief Simon Stiell turns ALP climate target dial to the max
By Sarah Ison, Geoff Chambers, and Matthew Cranston, The Australian
The UN’s climate chief has declared Australia will let the world “overheat” and fruit will be a “once-a-year treat” if Labor does not lift its clean-energy ambitions, as Anthony Albanese prepares to trumpet an ambitious emissions target to world leaders in his bid to host the next global green summit.
“Mega-droughts (will make) fresh fruit and veg a once-a-year treat. In total, the country could face a $6.8 trillion GDP loss by 2050,” Mr Stiell warned at an event hosted by the Smart Energy Council in Sydney on Monday.
Like a school football cheerleader — egging on the under-eights:
“Australia has a strong economy and among the highest living standards in the world. If you want to keep them, doubling down on clean energy is an economic no-brainer. Bog standard is beneath you. The question is: how far are you willing to go?
The ABC, dotingly, called the former Minister from Granada, “One of the Worlds Top Diplomats”, even though he has apparently never met an Australian fruit statistic. Not even in a brochure on the plane.
-ABC, could have spent five minutes looking up the same graphs that unfunded bloggers do, but instead did the full free marketing and PR sell out for Blob-Industries and Blob-Governments:
Mr Stiell called the new climate target a “defining moment” for Australia, and said the government had “one shot to build a blueprint that protects Aussie workers and businesses by preparing them for a fast-changing global economy”.
He used a speech to a group of investors and clean energy representatives in Sydney to warn “unchecked climate change” would be an “economic wrecking ball” for the Australian and global economy, and that action was imperative.
… The United States has slashed clean energy subsidies and pulled out of the Paris Agreement under Mr Trump. However, Mr Stiell said investment in renewables in countries like India and China was “off the chart” and “trillions of dollars are shifting” globally.
He didn’t blink when the UN witchdoctor forecast the complete collapse of our 4 billion ton fruit industry, which I suppose was more believable that Antony Guterres boiling the oceans last year.
The last word: Even though the Australian population has increased 260% and humankind has emitted nearly all the planet-wrecking CO2 that we’ve ever produced (or 80% thereof), the total Australian fruit production has freakishly remained the same at 150 kilograms per person year after year. It’s almost like we eat as much as we want. Yay, free market.
Image by Julius H. from Pixabay
Fruit? What has climate change to do with fruit? Warmer weather, more CO2, more rain means more fruit. Nonsensical rubbish.
“Following heated debate over climate change and the net-zero target in the first parliamentary sitting fortnight of the new term, during which Coalition MPs and conservative think-tanks argued the energy transition would cost billions, UN climate change executive secretary Simon Stiell demanded Australia not “settle for what’s easy” when enshrining its 2035 target.”
What is spectacular is that “Coalition MPs and conservative think-tanks” are not suggesting the whole thing is a scam. There is no ‘opposition’?
They are only arguing the cost of wrecking the joint. And Australians are being told to do ‘what’s right’. Which would be to tell Mr Shiell to go home to Grenada. But the island of Grenada with its 110,000 people are climate victims, so they don’t have to do a thing. Saving the world and our fruit and vegetables is entirely our responsibility. Not that of China and the US and India and 95% of the world’s population but ours.
No observable problem in Australia proven attributed to CO2 let alone one which we alone can control, but we have to abandon mining, farming, manufacturing and fossil fuels while exporting coal, gas, wheat to pay for windmills and the 80,000 person UN.
The sheer madness of being told by the UN that we should toughen up and buy more Chinese windmills and solar panels and transmission lines is beyond parody.
I still cannot believe anyone takes this seriously. Why are both Labor and Liberal parties true believers in the idea that the sky is falling and its up to us in Australia to stop it falling by ourselves and send hundreds of billions in cash overseas to people like Mr Stiell and friends? No cost benefit. No actual assessment. No proof and no debate except about how much to spend and tax and shut down.
The Chicken Little ‘sky is falling’ parable seems inadequate to describe Australian political chooks running in circles while the whole of America just walks away from the WHO, UNESCO and IPCC and Paris.
When was ‘The Science’ debated let alone decided? By whom? And why is there no opposition?
Is the UN quietly making personal offers to leading politicians like Mr Stiell and others like Helen Clarke? That would explain their allegiance to the Carbon cause.
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And Mr Stiell was Climate Minister of the tiny Caribbean tropical island of Grenada, population 112,579..
“The country’s principal export crops are the spices nutmeg and mace (Grenada is the world’s second-largest producer of nutmeg after Indonesia).
Other crops for export include cocoa, citrus fruits, bananas, cloves, and cinnamon.”
and the occasional fruitcake.
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And half of Australia is tropical or semitropical, water moderated like all the tropics. Global warming means nothing to say Java, a tiny island with 158 million people with fruit on every tree. What is he talking about?
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The UN is in panic mode and is sending out the clowns. Bigger clowns in the ABC and other media believe the rubbish and dutifully publish it. Anyone with working neurons ( most leftists will not qualify) know that Mr. UN man is nuts and what he is pedalling is absolute cr*p. Unfortunately Mr. Bowen is in a powerful position where the lack of working neurons is considered a positive, and he is mates with Mr. UN man, so we have worse to come.
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Yes, pay up, pay up more than you have already promised or you will face a drought much worse than the last one. Sounds like extortion to me. No one even questions the absurdity of the threat.
Now the UN controls the weather and will punish unbelievers with hell fire. I think the world has heard this threat before.
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And the dams will never fill again because of the lack of adequate rainfall …….
sarc.
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Ie, the UN fruitcake will meet Bananas Bowen and together they will cherry-pick data that supports their ambitions.
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“Fruit? What has climate change to do with fruit? Warmer weather, more CO2, more rain means more fruit”
Once again an “expert” on everything has failed to notice the difference in temperatures between the equator and the poles. Here in temperate Australia we manage to grow huge amounts of temperate fruits, if the mean average temp goes up a couple of degrees we will be able to grow huge amounts of tropical fruits. Varieties may change but “fruits’ will certainly not disappear.
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Warmth, meet fruit – Tropical Fruit World, Tweed valley, New South Wales http://www.tropicalfruitworld.com.au – 500 varieties of tropical fruits.
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I wish. This year our mandarin tree and orange tree have produced so much fruit, we are having to give it away. That has come after the feijoas tried to take over the planet. I have had to drink bottles and bottles of gin and tonic just to try and keep up with the lemons. I hope climate change adversely affects fruit harvests. It’s the only way I can see my liver getting a rest. 😉
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Opposite problem here as we had too much rain (especially in Oct 2022), too much cold, then too much lack of rain this year has wrecked our citrus fruit. Having to buy lemons or limes for our gin and tonic goes against the grain.
We lost our blood orange tree, we had badly damaged lime and lemon trees and most fruit was knocked off one of the grapefruit trees. It’s not that we never had -5C or -6C in the past but this year there was a protracted cold spell they just didn’t like.
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Sorry Annie – but or citrus trees went gangbusters – I am giving away grapefruit and I only have one tree. I am giving away lemons and last week gave away oranges and mandarins – I am thinking of setting up a bottling plant for all this excess fruit!
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Warmer in Melbourne. Especially near the water. Water is the great temperature moderator and contains 99.9% of all surface heat. As it weighs 350x as much as the entire atmosphere, air temperature makes zero difference. All water, all weather comes from the ocean, which is why water controls all climates, not CO2. And guess what no one models?
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I’ve been noticing heaps of lemons in baskets on the nature strips in front of homes in the hills east of Melbourne. Neighbours are encouraged to help themselves…
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We live north of the Divide. There is greater temperature variation here than in Melbourne. It’s been harsh around here for some of our trees and bushes.
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Don’t these clowns know anything about plants? In general plants, and Civilisation itself, loves warmth.
Even if significant warming was real, and not an artifact of falsely manipulated climate data such as from Australia’s BoM (“homogenisation” and not using pre-1910 data here as documented by Jo and Jennifer Marohasy here) and NASA and NOAA as documented by Tony Heller in the US, it would be a good thing. That’s why farmers use greenhouses and added CO2 if they are in cold climates.
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In any case, it goes without saying that any warming is natural, as it was during the Minoan, Egyptian, Roman and Medieval warm periods when Civilisation thrived. There is nothing humans can do to influence the climate one way or another, as claimed.
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They’ll claim that increased temperature will make the areas where citrus fruit is currently grown too hot. What they won’t mention is that the increased temperature will lead to citrus being able to grow further and further away from the equator, with a net result of MORE potential citrus farmland. And non-citrus fruits that grow in temperate zones will see their growing area expand towards the poles, with vast tracts of former tundra in Canada/Russia becoming arable and able to grow apples, berries, and other hardier fruits.
And that’s without even accounting for their initial claim about there being such a thing as ‘too hot’ for citrus growth being nonsense. Sure, you can’t grow citrus in a desert, but thanks to CO2 fertilization and increased temperatures leading to more H2O being suspended in the atmosphere as water vapor, deserts are shrinking, not growing.
Lastly, he also didn’t take into account technology. Through greenhouses and/or vertical hydro setups, we can grow pretty much anything anywhere as long as the energy to pull it off is available. Fruit will never become a ‘once a year’ thing because the more scarce it gets, the more an enterprising local farmer is incentivized to set up a greenhouse grow operation for foods where demand vastly outstrips supply.
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:” Sure, you can’t grow citrus in a desert”
Think the Israelis do this quite well, the secret appears to be more water related than heat related. Agreed they do not do well under dry conditions.
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The Arabs were growing oranges in Seville about a thousand years ago … one of the hottest cities in Europe with a yearly rainfall of approx 500mm.
For contrast Port Hedland in West Australia gets about 300mm of rainfall each year and similar temperatures.
They also grew oranges in Jaffa during the Ottoman Empire.
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The reason the climastrologists/globalists focus on Australia is that they know that US climate policy is now governed by science and reason under TRUMP and they’re looking for new compliant targets/victims, as if Australia wasn’t already such.
They know much of the voting population of Australia, and its major political parties (Lib/Lab/Green Uniparty), and certainly its Government is ignorant, apathetic, fully woke, fully gullible, globalist and fully prepared to engage in acts of economic and national self-destruction under our communist PM and his band of useful idiots.
In addition, with only a few exceptions, Australia has a captured media who are completely compliant with Government policy and non-investigative, and a public “service”, unions, institutions etc. who are also fully committed to the Government agenda. Especially the ones benefiting from the entire anthropogenic global warming scam and the billionaire subsidy harvesters.
And the Left’s war against the food supply and farming is leading up to the production and eating of insects for non-Elites which will become the supposed solution to the engineered “food crisis”. In Australia they are already indoctrinating children into eating insects at school. As of 2022 1000 Australian “schools” were serving insects* in their menus. It’s probably more now.
* https://www.spectator.com.au/2022/09/1000-australian-schools-are-fed-insects/
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Mr. Stiell of the U.N. obviously has never looked at their own website. If he had, he would have deleted that graph before opening his gob.
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Witchety grubs were regular tucker for aboorigines. The ones I saw in a documentary appeared to be in acacia trees that we call wattle, because they grow with slender branches that can be woven and plastered with clay to buil a “wattle amd daub” building..
I do not know if other grubs are edible.
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Bardi grubs, a variation on the witchety variety, scrape the ground clean under the red gums along the rivers and note the holes in. the ground, thread a bit of wire down and hook out a Bardie. I prefer the secondary use, rather than eating them first hand use them as bait for a cod or a yellow belly.
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No fruit for you, Mr Stiell.
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Australia was once a sensible, well governed country with a future.
We have fallen, and how far we have fallen is indicated by the fact that Mr. Stiell has been invited to lecture us on our own ground.
Is that spelling correct; Steal seems more appropriate.
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KK, this is what happens when rich communists get to be “in charge.”
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Exactly. All the undermining has been initiated by communers and followed lock step by libs, labs n’ greeens.
Power mixed with laziness is a mighty seducer.
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Wealthy beneficiaries of deceased estates are listed on many or most left leaning climate politics organisations
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Yes, but?
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Australia may have once had the appearance of being well-run, but only through sheer luck. As Donald Horne said in 1964:
“Lives on other people’s ideas”, hence the gullibility for the UN/WEF’s anthropogenic global warming scam, with no critical introspection whatsoever. And why we need visits from people like Steill to remove any slight doubt that remains. Australians are infatuated with self-proclaimed overseas “experts”.
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Why, when talking about Australia, do you only show global fruit production? Australian specific data is probably paywalled, but you will likely find that production has increased because area in production has increased. What you need to analyse is production per hectare, allowing for changes in genetics and cost of inputs.
Droughts in Australia are increasing in intensity in some parts of Australia:
https://beta.bom.gov.au/resources/learn-and-explore/drought-knowledge-centre/climate-change-and-drought
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So says the BoM, which is a political organisation, no longer a scientific one.
And isn’t it a shame that Australia has wasted, and continues to waste, countless billions on windmill and solar subsidy plantations for the benefit of the Elites when that money should have been spent on something useful like irrigation and flood mitigation?
As Dorothea Mackeller wrote in her poem in 1908:
That characteristic of Australia should have been corrected by now, but will never be because the economy and the wealth has been squandered on “green” madness. The situation might not be recoverable as even the main “opposition” political party goes along with the madness and Australia’s economy continues to decline and government debt continues to increase exponentially.
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Simon, if only you read the posts you’d know the Australian data is not paywalled at OWID, and I linked to it and described it. And isn’t global warming supposed to affect, y’know, global production?
If “climate change” does anything to yield, it increases it per hectare. Around the world people used to get 8t/h in 1961 but now that’s 50% improved to 12t/h. But yield in most of the world may be more due to fertilizer (thanks to fossil fuels on the ground and in the air too). The Australian yield varies from 12t/h to 16t/h and moves in patterns that seem more related to El Nino and La Nina than CO2 emissions.
See for yourself: https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/global-food?tab=line&country=ZAF%3BhideControls~AUS~OWID_WRL&Food=Fruit&Metric=Yield&Per+capita=true
And total production of individual crops is mostly related to customer preference in the rich world. Apples and apricots have declined in Australia, cherries went gangbusters, fell, then came back. Blueberries went from nothing to a bonanza in the last 20 years (from ten fold increase since 2000). Strawberries steadily grew from the 90s. Grapefruit had some wild peak (per capita) in the 1980s in Australia.
If only the BOM had some clue, any idea, how to predict El Nino and La Nina. It’s the largest climate phenomenon on the planet and they haven’t got the faintest what is driving it.
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Exactly right Jo. Simon is of the same ilk that do not want to know about real data whether it be increasing crop yields or lack of generation of renewable equipment such as wind and solar.
They much prefer to stick to their narratives and damn the facts.
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Come on guys. Leave Simon alone. After all he is a medical miracle. The world’s only surviving brain transplant – donor
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The grapefruit peak may have been a result of the demand created by the fad diet of the 1980s.
https://takesmeback.com/wildly-misleading-1980s-diet-fads/
Simon seems to buy into Stiell’s vision of a fruit scarce future. l wonder which one type of fruit he would choose for his annual indulgence? I’d choose a watermelon but l wouldn’t be surprised if he opted for a grape.
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Hi Jo & all – I missed this post yesterday. My two cents:
Fruit growers have been implementing “high density” orchards with clonal dwarfing rootstocks. If you like text, have a look at Ann Noble’s MS Thesis:
https://scholarworks.calstate.edu/downloads/xk81jr567
For visual aficionados, use Google Earth Pro and go to:
47.21916, -119.939487
Use “Street View” to look at the “hedgerow style” or high-density orchards. Zoom out to an eye-altitude of about 30 miles. It is not all fruit because corn and hay are also there. Over the decade, expect AI-assisted mechanized harvesting.
When purchased, my house had about 10 old-style fruit trees. They are now so big I can’t harvest but 10% of the apples and cherries. I have planted dwarf plums – better suited for my climate and more fun to give away as they ripen.
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Just a year ago it was supposed to be flooding … now they are back to droughts again.
Wind will be more windy, rain will be more rainy … and the sun must surely get sunnier. The very dirt beneath our feet will become … errr dirtier than it ever was before.
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“Droughts in Australia are increasing in intensity in some parts of Australia:”
And floods in others, so the driest state is dry ? Wow.
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The only mention of Australia was the clown from Canada saying we must do more to offset our 1% of global CO2, well that makes sense, to a lefty.
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Simon,
The Clown UN climate chief Simon Stiell says Australia should cut mining exports
The climate chief at the United Nations has suggested Australia should “address” mining exports that hold up the nation’s economy, just hours before he is due to meet with Energy Minister Chris Bowen.
A day after saying Australia must cut emissions or let the world overheat, UN climate change executive Simon Stiell on Tuesday declared that Australia must now help reduce global demand for resources that pump up greenhouse gases.
Mr Stiell also maintained that green hydrogen had “potential” as a source of renewable energy.
“Science tells us we need to transition away from all fossil fuels as rapidly as possible,” Mr Stiell told ABC RN.
Australia is heading for Bankruptcy as it is under these Federal & State Labor Governments, so to cut our Mining Exports whose revenues are keeping Australia afloat, while China & India keep digging for Coal, buying our coal, building Caol Fired Elecricity Plants, would be UN & Labor Blackout Bowen Lunacy
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COMMENTARY – GEOFF CHAMBERS
Take your lecture and doomsday appraisals to big emitters
The UN climate change official issuing doomsday appraisals of Australia’s future economy, security and prosperity should spend more time lecturing the world’s biggest emitters in China, India and the US.
Workers, business owners and families who have enough on their plate don’t need hectoring from Simon Stiell, a former Grenada government minister who scored a plum job as executive secretary of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change.
Polling on climate change often shows high levels of concern but little support when asked to pay more.
As the Coalition warns Australia’s commitment of net-zero emissions by 2050 will be a “wrecking ball” to the economy, Stiell, Chris Bowen and other climate advocates say inaction will wreak havoc. The loudest voices have dominated debate for too long. All punters observe is two sides who can’t agree on the path ahead.
While the US, Britain, Canada and dozens of western countries pursue zero-emissions nuclear power to hit net-zero targets and power homes and heavy industry, Australia has a renewables-only approach.
China, India and the US are the world’s biggest polluters but Australia, population 27.4 million, wears the blame for climate change catastrophe.
Bowen, who has described Stiell as a friend, is on a global charm offensive as Labor seeks to co-host the COP31 summit with Pacific nations next year.
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Old Aussie, I do hope that you are not intimating that emissions of CO2 is “pollution”. Perhaps you are referring to emissions of nitrous oxides, sulphur compounds and pure carbon from old coal power stations, rather than life giving CO2 from the modern HELE plants?
I hope so.
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Coal, renewables jostle for energy costs crown
Black coal has staged a comeback to rival firmed renewables as the cheapest form of electricity in 2024-25, amid a spike in costs to build onshore wind, while small modular nuclear plants remain the most expensive technology if built into Australia’s energy grid.
The CSIRO said black coal was $111 per megawatt hour at the lowest end of its annual forecasts, compared with backed-up wind and solar which was $116 MWh under the cheapest level of modelling. Those figures represent a turnaround from a year ago when black coal at $107 MWh was outpaced by firmed renewables, which was forecast at $97MWh.
Black coal is not expected to retain its position, however, with the costs of firmed solar and wind falling substantially to $76MWh by 2030, compared with black coal at $103MWh by the end of the decade.
The joint report by Australia’s national science agency and the Australian Energy Market Operator measures electricity technologies by comparing a levelised cost of energy that includes operating and capital costs over the power generator’s economic life.
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It’s getting to the point where it’s not worthwhile having a closer look at the CSIRO reports, because you know that they will contain many false assumptions and wrong cost calculations.
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Albanese government failing on transparency after CSIRO refuses to reveal key renewable energy costs modelling, Dan Tehan says
The Albanese government is facing major transparency concerns after the CSIRO refused to reveal its modelling on the cost of the renewable energy transition.
Mr Tehan pointed to the final GenCost report released today by the CSIRO in which it said the modelling on its renewable integration costs was “not suitable for general release”.
Mr Tehan said the government needed to release the information given its broken $275 power bill reduction promise.
“Why? This is our leading scientific organisation and it will not release the modelling on what these costs they are putting forward,” Mr Tehan said.
“Well, surely, when it comes to our electricity grid, the government should have already done it that work, especially when they made a commitment to the Australian people to reduce their power bills by $275 by the end of this year.
“Nothing in this report goes to that fact. As a matter of fact, all we see now is our leading scientific organisations saying they cannot release that model. Well, I think the government needs to explain why.
“The cost is being hidden by this government.”
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India produced over a billion tons of coal in 2024-25
India has produced over a billion tons of coal in 2024-25, Coal and Mines Minister G. Kishan Reddy said on Monday.
The South Asian nation plans to increase production to 1.13 billion tons by 2029-30, he said in a written reply to a question in the upper house of parliament.
Several initiatives have been announced by the government to increase domestic production, such as a single window clearance for new projects, amending regulations, technological improvements, expanding existing projects, and auctioning coal blocks for commercial mining, Reddysaid.
India has already allowed 100% Foreign Direct Investment for commercial mining.
Indian coal imports from Russia reach two year high
The coal ministry has also sped up coal block development, in which captive mine owners can also sell excess coal in the open market.
New Delhi has introduced a Coking Coal Mission to increase the supply of coking coal to the steel sector, with the goal of reducing reliance on imports.
The country still imports coal, but only for specific needs, such as coking coal and higher-grade non-coking coal, which are not readily available in large quantities domestically due to limited reserves or lack of availability.
India is dependent on coal for 70% of its electricity needs.
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JUDITH SLOAN – Chalmers is already gaming ‘reform’ roundtable
Chalmers has made some extraordinary preliminary comments. According to him, “we’ve made a lot of progress together in our first term making our economy more productive, dynamic and resilient”.
Chalmers is perfectly entitled to make political comments.
But it’s another thing to claim to have delivered “a better living standard” when per capita GDP has declined in seven of the past nine quarters, and labour productivity is where it was in 2016. Business investment is the same share of the economy as it was in the recession of the early 1990s.
The idea that the economy is “more productive, dynamic and resilient” is not supported by the facts. Twenty per cent of our exports are dominated by one commodity – iron ore – with most of it heading to China, underscoring the fragility of the economy.
The dramatic expansion of the government-funded, low-productivity care economy at triple the rate of economic growth is another factor contributing to our delicate economic situation. The predicted years of budget deficits is a further consideration.
An electricity grid based mainly on renewable energy, for instance, is far less productive than a centralised one based on a small number of large plants. Not only is there a need for a massive overbuild of renewable kit, but there is also an inherent redundancy in the system because of the need to back up intermittent power. The case for transforming the electricity grid has nothing to do with productivity, quite the reverse.
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If Australia stops exporting mining output, how will China make all the solar panels and windmill parts for western countries to use in achieving their Net Zero renewable energy goals? Those things don’t just magically appear out of the ether. It takes lots and lots of coal, minerals, and other mining outputs to get all the ‘free energy’ from Mother Nature.
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Activist organisation makes activist claims and you believe them.
I live in Brisbane, where until 2010 people like you (brain dead) lectured people like me (who work in Construction, outside, and stopped by rain) that we were in a permanent drought. 3 or 4 major floods since then, the wettest year since 1971 last year (nearly broke many of us and DID break a whole lot more) and so much rain in so many of the years since then. And look at Sydney. You promised Warragamba would never fill again. Empty, Malthusian promises from empty heads. God forbid you got a real job you numpty. And worse – God forbid you get the socialist utopia you want. It never goes well for the Useful Idiots.
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?… Possibly because the issue in question is “Global Warming” ?🙄🤔
Ironic comment at a time when much of central Australia is being flooded by a “once in a lifetime” event !..Flood waters still streaming into Lake Ayre from QLD.
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Half of Australia is drought stricken, the other half is flooded, so on an Australian average, average all is well.
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“Ironic comment at a time when much of central Australia is being flooded by a “once in a lifetime” event !..Flood waters still streaming into Lake Ayre from QLD.”
Somehow, this news has passed Simon by, possibly the most water to flow to Lake Eyre in more than a century.
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‘The decrease is projected to continue, with likely longer droughts on average. This is associated with the projected shift in the track of rain-bearing frontal systems further south.’
This is disinformation, the Southern Annular Mode is a prime driver of rainfall in southern Australia and not CO2. SAM has been trending positive for many years and is associated with large blocking high pressure.
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The frontal system is now breaking through because SAM is turning negative.
http://www.bom.gov.au/fwo/IDY65100.pdf
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SAM
https://weather.plus/aao-index.html
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Fruit Yield, 1961 – 2023. OWID.
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Chicken Little.
Buk-buk-buk-buk!
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Got any total area comparisons there Simon? A few decades ago areas planted to citrus were being reduced due to cheap imports.
I can speak with some knowledge about increased yields per hectare with things like potatoes that used to yield 7 to 8 tonnes per acre increasing to around 30 tonnes per acre similarly field grown tomatoes from 10 tonnes up to 20 to 30 tonnes per acre It’s all about inputs, variety choice, water management etc. The modern farmer certainly wants greater yields per acree of everything, citrus, nut crops etc. its just cheaper to produce lots more on less land.
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Simon, if you click on the link OWID in the post it initially shows the world graph.
Click on Relevance and select By Country.
You can then select Australia and/or any other country.
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“… or perhaps there’s a kind of perverse psychological warfare going on here.”
Yes.
Not perhaps.
Emphasis on perverse.
The mere labeling ‘Climate Change’ is psychological warfare.
The perverse comes in telling the children it’s too late every five years.
Brilliant, mind numbing, in that it is the ultimate cynicism branded as concern and science.
Psychological warfare is The Blob’s main thing.
One of the reasons they gave us the Internet (which they think they can control as easily as war*) … while refusing to give us the alien free energy and anti-gravity travel technology*.
Psyops perpetuate the traditional blowing stuff up ordinance manufacturing grift.
Also inventory control of MAMs.
Which may explain uncontrolled immigration in a way that remains to be seen.
*To the sarcasm challenged, this is sarc.
*More sarc referencing the US Gubmint recent rolling out of UAP psyops … complete with a rebrand from UFO to UAP, mirroring Global Warming to Climate Change.
I leave you now to spend the rest of my day pondering Epstein.
Because JFK was so two months ago.
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Well, well, well. I mean WEF, WEF, WEF
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Simon
Are you serious?
Micro “climates” change all the time. Even on a yearly basis.
You deny gauged, documented, ancient, and geological history.
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Simon is a climate reality denier.
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Well that also means very few grapes so that spells the end for the wine industry. Better go fill the cellar now before we run out.
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Meanwhile we have an overproduction of grapes , drink more wine.
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It’s strange that all of Stiell’s biographies claim he trained as an “engineer” but not one specifies exactly what type of engineer.
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As part of the U.N. swamp, I think he might be all in on ‘engineering’ the destruction of the West.
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Who was the other clown in the UN who was a train engineer.
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Rajendra Pachauri, head of IPCC. He was removed from the post for an interesting reason.
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https://pastglobalchanges.org/publications/pages-magazines/pages-magazine/7412
Australia has had mega droughts before with multiple multi-decade droughts occurring over the last couple of Millenia. The 20th century looks to have been a wet century. But back in the Holocene there was a 200 year global mega drought. It wasn’t global warming the caused it but global cooling.
The link is for details of the 200 year mega drought.
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Yep thanks. Took the words right out of my mouth. If this clown is predicting mega-droughts in the future, then usually you look in the past to assess what happened. It just so happens that Australia experiences mega-droughts all the time. It’s cyclical. 1890’s, 1940’s and more recently we had the Centennial drought (early 2000’s) which was really just a pretend drought anyway. I don’t seem to remember any shortages of fruit reported during those times. But again you have this prediction that AGW/MMCC will cause a warmer world and then the assumption is (by these same clowns) that it will be drier. Or that the climatic events will somehow be more intense. When actually the opposite is probably more true. That a warmer world is probably wetter whereas an ice age type climate is probably drier. Since the more recent increases in CO2 the Australian eastern seaboard hasn’t experienced any major catastrophic droughts like 1967 or 1982. I can only suppose that Simon ( why are they always called Simon?) was advised that SE Australia has had a drier start to the year than normal. So, best to up the ante on the alarmism regarding droughts. But fruit??? If you wanted to scare the Aussie population maybe predict that beer will be in short supply, not fruit.
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“I can only suppose that Simon ( why are they always called Simon?) ”
Because it goes so well with ‘simple’.
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Maurice Strong, joint founder of the UN organisation that became the IPCC, said: “What is a small group of world leaders were to conclude that the principal risk to the Earth comes from the actions of the rich countries?…In order to save the planet, the group decides: Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialised civilisations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring this about?
And I believe Antonio Guterres, UN Secretary, said something similar.
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He also repeatedly said the oceans are boiling. Which is a lie.
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The Med has quite a fast response to changing solar because its currents are latitudinally constrained.
The author of those lines clearly has no understanding of orbital precession.
The June solstice solar intensity at 35N in 300BC was 482W/m^2. It had already declined substantially from 520W/m^2 in 9000BC. In 1200AD the summer solstice sunlight over the Med bottomed at 480.2W/m^2; down 1.8W/m^2 from the Roman era.
Since 1200AD, solar EMR has steadily risen to the present value of 480.6W/m^2. It will next peak at 502.9W/m^2 in 11,000AD.
It is just sad that so few people understand orbital precession and how it drives glaciation. The coming challenges will be growing ice mountains on land north of 40N and declining sea level.
When did you last see an article describing the increasing elevation of Greenland due to snow accumulation. Even articles that show the data spin the meaning:
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/greenland-antarctica-are-gaining-ice-inland-losing-melting-overall
You do not need to be a mental giant to realise snow flows down hill. If the higher ground is already getting higher, it is obvious that the lower ground will be eventually getting higher.
Greenland has not completely de-glaciated in this interglacial but only a fool with an agenda would hype the fringe loss over the gaining elevation and what that really means.
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This erudite and informative comment illuminates the problem with the Climate Change debate.
Facts are non-combatants in the sky is falling food fight.
The RickWills of the world are at least providing important logistical support.
The tide may be turning, but it took a nasty symbolic language orange street fighter to turn it.
But I fear we only have one and he’s 79.
Humanity survived centuries of religious wars.
‘Science’ came along and cooled it off (er, I mean post WWI and II … mostly … I think).
Then ‘science’ got turned into religion …
(I guess because ‘religion’ is the primary method of explaining the unresolved)
… and we may have gone back to square one.
Back to believers vs. deniers.
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Maybe he means no land left to grow crops if the transition to so called renewables wind and solar installations continues to cover the countryside with feeder transmission lines from all locations to main transmission lines and new main transmission lines only needed for efficient transmission from those intermittent operation renewables?
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Unrecognised aspects of building wind and solar plantations on farmland is that 1) if the farm still exists, maintenance workers can violate biosecurity of the farm by bringing in pests and diseases. 2) In addition, low-hanging transmission lines and clearance requirements around them mean certain tall farm equipment can’t be used in the vicinity, thus preventing access to large areas of farmland.
Providing subsidies to green billionaires and other Elites is clearly more important than the food supply. It’s all part of the Left’s war against the food (and energy) supply of non-Elites.
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The world population has increased by 5.2 billion since 1960, yet people have more calories and more varieties of food to eat.
Obviously this includes fruit and many more choices in Australia and the World compared to 1960.
Here’s part of the summary from OWI Data……
“Global crop production has changed dramatically in recent decades. The amount of food we grow has increased rapidly as a result of two drivers: the amount of land we use for agriculture has expanded, but the largest driver has been a rapid rise in crop yields.
The diversity of diets has also increased in many countries around the world. Cereals, roots, and other staple crops once made up the majority of agricultural produce. This has expanded into legumes, fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, and other foods”.
“Agricultural production has also become much more international. Historically, food production was localized everywhere: farmers produced food for their families or communities. Even when food trade became more widespread, it was mostly limited to domestic markets”.
“Now, large amounts of food are traded internationally. This has made diets across the world much more diverse, and can also provide an important source of income (from ‘cash crops’) for farmers. This is particularly true in lower-income countries”.
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Here’s the link to OWI Data, agricultural production.
https://ourworldindata.org/agricultural-production
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Neville,
Have you seen either Chris Warren or Stu from the old Don Aitkin blog recently?
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I tried to follow the science, but it was simply not there.
I then followed the money – that’s where I found the science…
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…and the government experts who get everything wrong…
…and the sycophant politicians…
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I think I’ll have some Al Gore snow topping on my fruit before they’re both gone.
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In a shocking display of academic integrity, two eminent professors published a masterfully complex paper that undermines the foundation of climate alarmism. MIT’s Richard Lindzen, Professor of Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Sciences, Emeritus, and Princeton’s William Happer, Professor of Physics, Emeritus, published a paper titled PHYSICS DEMONSTRATES THAT INCREASING GREENHOUSE GASES CANNOT CAUSE DANGEROUS WARMING, EXTREME WEATHER OR ANY HARM.
https://timlynch.substack.com/p/the-climate-alarmism-grift-is-dying
Just like religions, just blind belief, fear, ignorance and greed are all that’s needed.
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https://co2coalition.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/Lindzen-Happer-GHGs-and-Fossil-Fuels-Climate-Physics-2025-06-07.pdf
Original Paper
CURRICULUM VITAE
Richard Lindzen, Ph.D.
I am an Alfred AT Sloan Professor of Atmospheric Science Emeritus at MIT.
Aftercompleting my doctorate at Harvard in 1964 (with a thesis on the interaction of photochemistry, radiation and dynamics in the stratosphere), I did postdoctoral work at the University of Washington and at the University of Oslo before joining the National Center for Atmospheric Research as a staff scientist. p. the end of 1967, I moved to the University of Chicago as a tenured associate professor, and in 1971 I returned to Harvard to assume the Gordon McKay Professorship (and later the Burden Professorship) in Dynamic Meteorology. In 1981 I moved to MIT to assume the Alfred AT Sloan Professorship in Atmospheric Sciences. I have also held visiting professorships at UCLA, Tel Aviv University, and the National Physical Laboratory in Ahmedabad, India, and the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, and the Laboratory for Dynamic Meteorology at the University of Paris.
I developed our current understanding of the quasi-biennial oscillation of the tropical stratosphere, the current explanation for dominance of the solar semidiurnal and diurnal tides at various levels of the atmosphere, the role of breaking gravity waves as a major source of friction in the atmosphere, and the role of this friction in reversing the meridional temperature gradient at the tropopause (where the equator is the coldest latitude) and the mesopause (where temperature is a minimum at the summer pole and a maximum at the winter pole). I have also developed the basic description of how surface temperature in the tropics controls the distribution of cumulus
convection and led the group that discovered the iris effect where upper-level cirrus contract inresponse to warmer surface temperatures.
I have published approximately 250 papers and books.
I am an award recipient of the American Meteorological Society and the American Geophysical Union. I am a fellow of the American Meteorological Society, the American Geophysical Unionand the American Association for the Advancement of Science, and a member of the National Academy of Sciences and the American Academy of Arts and Sciences.
I have served as the director of the Center for Earth and Planetary Sciences at Harvard and on numerous panels of the National Research Council. I was also a lead author on the Third Assessment Report of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change – the report for which the IPCC shared the Nobel Peace Prize with Al Gore
William Happer, Ph.D.
I am a Professor Emeritus in the Department of Physics at Princeton University.
I began my professional career in the Physics Department of Columbia University in 1964, where I served as Director of the Columbia Radiation Laboratory from 1976 to 1979. I joined the Physics Department of Princeton University in 1980.
I invented the sodium guidestar that is used in astronomical adaptive optics systems to correct the degrading effects of atmospheric turbulence on imaging resolution. I have published over 200 peer-reviewed scientific papers, am a Fellow of the American Physical Society, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, and a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, the National Academy of Sciences and the American Philosophical Society.
I served as Director of Energy Research in the U.S. Department of Energy from 1991 to 1993. I was a co-founder in 1994 of Magnetic Imaging Technologies Incorporated (MITI), a small company specializing in the use of laser-polarized noble gases for magnetic resonance imaging. I
served as Chairman of the Steering Committee of JASON from 1987 to 1990. I served as Deputy Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Emerging Technologies at The National Security Council in the White House from 2018 to 2019.
I am the Chair of the Board of Directors of the CO2 Coalition, a nonprofit organization established in 2015 to educate thought leaders, policy makers and the public about the vital contribution made by carbon dioxide to our lives and our economy.
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The lunatics are running the asylum.
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Just another reason to withdraw from the UN. It is infested with failed politicians, now would be dictators.
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The UN is now a self directing overgrown monster with no relationship with its original intent, to prevent war.
What has it done in Ukraine, Gaza, Congo/Rwanda, Armenia,India/Pakistan, Cambodia/Thailand? UNWRA is still assisting HAMAS and UNWRA staff joined in the massacre and their offices were under the UNWRA building? Why?
In 1948 Israel was a creation of the United Nations. Which has since enacted 500 resolutions condemning Israel. And overseen six or seven wars by Arab nations on Israel. In other words, useless and contradictory.
40,000 staff and 40,000 others. All do what exactly? And of course America picks up most of the tab while China controls most of the committees, as with every communist state.
And employ old politicians, which must be tempting for life after politics. It should be highly improper for politicians to take jobs with the UN because of the scope for being totally compromised. But no one seems to care about the clear possibility and appearance of bribery and corruption. Julia Gillard was hanging out for Helen Clarke’s job, which is likely why both introduced carbon taxes while promising not to do so. But Helen Clarke refused to give up the great job. No care and no responsibility, no elections and a great, world class job. All expenses paid.
Now Mr Shiell is telling the world to behave and keep paying his salary. I wonder if Albanese or Bowen are up for an all expenses paid plush no work retirement job in New York? Parties and travel.
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And who decided the UN was in charge of the world’s weather? They did. A political panel to control climates, the IPCC. A perfect junket. Climate Extortion a speciality. Jobs for all politicians who can direct billions their way.
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Setup by Maurice Strong and Bert Bolin. For the first conference in Rio, Strong made sure that existing activist groups such as Greenpeace were strongly represented, setting the tone for a political organisation rather than a scientific one.
Should also mention that Strong was responsible for the Montreal Protocol, setup to ban CFC products. A socialist to the core.
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Long forgotten is the establishment of the United Nations soon after WW2 ended, and most who remember are not aware of the infiltration of the UN by the left side of politics many of whom are Fabians, members of the Fabian Society of UK established late 1800s (Democratic Socialist Marxists) and associates, example Fabian Society Australia with membership of ALP members.
And Labor Attorney General Evatt who created the UN adopted plan to have as many treaties and agreements as possible with member nations, each one would legislate the UN agendas and here Federal and State with Local Government have complied, and resulting in regulations and compliance costs imposed.
There appears to be a hidden obligation that most MPs are manipulated with.
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Rewards for services rendered
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Being emeritus professors, department and college politics no longer has any influence
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Its worse than we thought. Children wont know what snow OR fruit are. Or electricity probably.
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Or democracy. Neither major party in Australia bothers to represent its constituency. Because there is no need. Tell them what they want to hear and when we get power, we do what we like.
Labor supposedly has a mandate to charge infinitely to control the world’s climates because they have had a landslide election. But their primary vote of 34.56% has hardly changed in a decade. It’s more about the new gormless Liberal party after Malcolm Turnbull, a party which now refuses to have any policies. And agrees with everything Labor says. Even that, for example, women are not women. And tries to expel any woman who says otherwise. So half the country has no political party except the asexual, climate change, no defence, aboriginal anti coal party.
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And no party is actually prepared to challenge Climate Change aka man made CO2 driven Global Warming, which as far as I can tell has no validity at all in science. Not a single statement in a long chain of science statements is correct.
But who cares? The United Nations says we are ‘due’ to make massively expensive declarations on CO2. It’s what happens when an 80,000 unelected and fundamentally irresponsible and unaccountable world government plays with our money without a single elected representative. Voodoo science. From the Caribbean now. At least with the monster who ran WHO we could ask which doctor?
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When are these idiots going to wake up to one simple – genuinely scientific – FACT? “Carbon ‘Pollution'” (CO2) is actually heavier-than-air; so how is it supposed to be “floating ‘up there’ to trap heat? The reality is that it’s heavier-than-air!
It’s true that, being part of the atmosphere, it would be in constant movement – together with everything else – but its natural movement is DOWN! And what does it do? Why: It feeds the greenery!
Plants live because of it. Take away CO2, and then no more plants! Is this what the ‘Greenies’ want? (If it is, then clearly they’re more stupid than I’d thought!)
You don’t believe me when I say “heavier-than-air”? Then get a balloon, blow it up, tie it closed, and let it go. Does your balloon go up? If it does then you should apply to be recognised in ‘The Guinness Book of Records’ as breathing out lighter-than-air hydrogen. (But don’t light a match near them!)
And this demonstrates the sheer ignorance and stupidity behind the advocacy of ‘carbon pollution’ supposedly ‘floating up there’ to ‘trap’ heat! (“Blah! Blah!” To quote Sancta Greta Thunberg.)
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The MSM is ridiculing Barnaby, but he is made of sterner stuff. At this point in time there are no politicians willing to say anything about the science.
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/government-willing-to-help-joyce-blow-up-coalition-over-net-zero-20250728-p5mi8j
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It’s almost like we eat as much as we want. Yay, free market.
I really don’t know why people moan about half the population being obese, mostly the poor. After thousands of years of living in dread of famine, it’s a triumph.
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Is there a special moron test that people have to pass to become a top knob at the UN? Or is it a special employment scheme for those disadvantaged by an IQ in single figures?
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“Fruit will be a once a year treat” says Chief UN Soothsayer thanks to climate change inflation. – correct!
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