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The Tech Giants purge Trump, conservatives, effectively 74 million people

“Welcome to West China”

So sayth Roger Simon at the Epoch Times.

Did you ever wonder what it’s like to live in a one-party state?

Well, wonder no more. You’re living in one.

As a business plan, chucking off half the nation may not work so well?

Censorship just got racked up to Defcon 2.0. It’s bad and it’s going to get worse. The good news is, the Left overplay their hands.

Twitter has permanently banned The President of the United States, as well as Sidney Powell, Michael Flynn, and Lin Wood. In reply, Rush Limbaugh deactivated his Twitter Account. Limbaugh had has 88 million followers on twitter and has 35 million listeners on his radio show. But the purge is sweeping, Facebook already banned Trump “indefinitely”. Not only that but Facebook has been going after conservative groups too.  Steve Bannon’s podcast was also shuttered by YouTube over “false 2020 election claims”.

In response there will be an exodus to other platforms like Parler. In preparation for that Apple and the Google Playstore both told Parler it must obey their rules or it will be delisted. But what does this say about Apple? They spent a lot of money advertising their strong privacy policy. This blows that away and marks Apple as an activist tool of the left wing. How confident are you now that Apple won’t use your iphone messages against you “for the national good”, etc?

It’s looking like only the three or four people with phones outside the two giants will be allowed (and for how long) to get social media messages from the current US President. Is anyone still wondering if this is a Coup?

Glenn Reynolds says “This does seem like a good way to re-unify the Republican Party, though.” There is that.

As it happens, Donald Trumps popularity rose after the Capitol hill protest:

A source close to the polling firm tells Newsmax that the rolling survey saw Trump’s approval soar to 51% on Thursday night. Trump’s approval has been up overall, jumping from 45% just before Christmas. “Americans are disgusted that cities burned for months and Washington and the media did nothing,” our source says, “But they still like Trump.”

The Tech Giants have monopolies to wreck, and the sooner the better. Has there ever been a better reason to look at their competitors?

 

Trump Meme, "I'm in the Way"

Trump promises big news and possibly a whole new platform:

President Donald Trump responded to Twitter’s move to permanently suspend his account from its platform late Friday, condemning the big tech giant and saying that it does not stand for free speech.

The president also said he anticipates a “big announcement” soon and that his team is negotiating with other sites and is also looking at building a separate platform.

“As I have been saying for a long time, Twitter has gone further and further in banning free speech, and tonight, Twitter employees have coordinated with the Democrats and the Radical Left in removing my account from their platform, to silence me—and YOU, the 75,000,000 great patriots who voted for me,” Trump said in a statement.

“Twitter may be a private company, but without the government’s gift of Section 230 they would not exist for long,” he added.

“I predicted this would happen. We have been negotiating with various other sites, and will have a big announcement soon, while we also look at the possibilities of building out our own platform in the near future. We will not be SILENCED!” he said.

For the record, these were the two tweets that Twitter deemed to be “glorifying violence”.

They are not even trying:

Twitter says Blah blah blah. They might as well say, Trump used English, therefore we have to hide him:

Add this to your dictionary: American Patriot means people who support violent acts?  GIANT VOICE means “there will not be an orderly transition”.

This determination is based on a number of factors, including:

        • President Trump’s statement that he will not be attending the Inauguration is being received by a number of his supporters as further confirmation that the election was not legitimate and is seen as him disavowing his previous claim made via two Tweets (12) by his Deputy Chief of Staff, Dan Scavino, that there would be an “orderly transition” on January 20th.
        • The second Tweet may also serve as encouragement to those potentially considering violent acts that the Inauguration would be a “safe” target, as he will not be attending.
        • The use of the words “American Patriots” to describe some of his supporters is also being interpreted as support for those committing violent acts at the US Capitol.
        • The mention of his supporters having a “GIANT VOICE long into the future” and that “They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!” is being interpreted as further indication that President Trump does not plan to facilitate an “orderly transition” and instead that he plans to continue to support, empower, and shield those who believe he won the election.
        • Plans for future armed protests have already begun proliferating on and off-Twitter, including a proposed secondary attack on the US Capitol and state capitol buildings on January 17, 2021.

Unforgiveably, Trump is not attending the inauguration, sob, sob. He is not bowing to their egos, and thus is inciting disobedience.

There is a site publishing his deleted tweets.

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229 comments to The Tech Giants purge Trump, conservatives, effectively 74 million people

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    nb

    Just for the record, in case anyone should be confused, I love Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and Barak Hussein Obama. I love them so much. I love them like I love Comrade Stalin, Pol Pot, Chairman Mao, Comrade Xi. Let this be know to all my friends at Twitter, Facebook, Google, and Pravda. I love you all.

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      Deano

      Just be careful they don’t find a MAGA cap in your bottom drawer or it’s “TRAITOR! Up against the wall!”

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        WokeBuster

        Won’t be long before even a Biden cap (does such a thing exist?) will get you up against a wall.

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          Dave in the States

          That is almost the case already outside the beltway/Media bubble.

          Really, the Biden hate in fly over country is palatable already.

          America is not turning against Trump despite the propaganda narrative.

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            Hanrahan

            Dave in the States, I assume “the Biden hate in fly over country is palatable already.” is a reliable observation. If so I take some heart.

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      GARETH LEWIS

      Finally Winston Smith loved Big Brother too. It’s how the plan works.

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      jelly34

      I had been banned a number of times from fakebook and twitt on a number of time and then found Gab and mewe.com.I haven’t been back since.I have managed to survive for in the case of Gab 3 years and mewe a couple of months.Life is sweet over on these platforms.Come join me.It’s free.

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    CriddleDog

    Any comment re. the Spooner cartoon in the Australian today?
    I was surprised they even printed it, but maybe there is much more I don’t understand.

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      GlenM

      The Australian has been wall-to wall anti-Trump; Kelly,Sheridan and their resident hack in Washington, Cameron Stewart spewing their contempt for Trump. Disgusting that a Centre-Right publication would trot out a wall of superficialities. I might as well subscribe to Voelkischer Beobachter or Pravda.

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        truth

        Kelly and Sheridan …supposed experts…have …along with all the rest of what passes for journalism in this country….massively censored out the facts of the Democrats’ lawlessness…the relentless siege by the Fake News networks colluding with Deep State rogue actors, broadcasting propaganda and lies 24/7 then having to reveal their own lies when they had to testify under oath and their own subversive backsides were at stake.

        All of that was censored out over the > four years …on air at least, where it really counts for the bulk of the population…while they and other ‘journalists’ have never asked one question as far as I can see…about Downer and DFAT and the DFAT sting in London at the behest of the lawless Clinton campaign…designed to be used as pretext for the Mueller probe that plagued the Trump Presidency….and threatened to bring down the Trump administration.

        Foreign Affairs reporter Sheridan …as far as I’ve seen, showed zero interest in Australian Foreign Affairs officials’ interference in a US election campaign to confect a bogus report for the candidate they apparently approved of, in order to bring down the other candidate.

        We know what a massive story that would have been had Clinton been the victim and Trump the plotter.

        Shamefully ….Australia through DFAT played a larger role than any other country in the world to try to tear to shreds the Trump Presidency….IMO.

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          Dennis

          Always look for background links … DFAT Minister

          “Payne is viewed as a member of the Liberal Party’s moderate or “small-l liberal” wing. In a 2008 interview, she stated: “I am a liberal, I am a member of the Liberal Party. I have always called myself a liberal. If I had wanted to be a conservative I would have gone to London and joined the Conservative Party.” Payne is a republican, and served as vice-chair of the Australian Republican Movement in the 1990s. According to Senator Simon Birmingham, she argued forcefully against the Northern Territory National Emergency Response in the Liberal partyroom. In 2002, she said she had “very real concerns” about how mandatory detention of illegal immigrants affected women and children, proposing that they instead be released into the community. In 2004, in response to calls for the federal government to withdraw Medicare funding of abortions, she stated “people should not be prepared to see the rights and health of Australian women go backwards”.”

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        Ian

        Good to see News Corp aka Murdoch Press acting responsibly by analytically discussing Trump’s behaviour. You may not like it GlenM but I find it refreshing that the “Centre-Right” Australian is prepared to tell its readers, most of whom are Conservatives, just how bad Trump’s presidency has really been. In condemning his atrocious behaviour since November 3 the writers are giving their views, views with which most thinking people will agree

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          Steve of Cornubia

          “You may not like it GlenM but I find it refreshing that the “Centre-Right” Australian is prepared to tell its readers, most of whom are Conservatives, just how bad Trump’s presidency has really been.”

          You mean there was a need for this, despite wall-to-wall anti-Trump propaganda in just about every other media outlet, for four years? You don’t think there was enough Trump Derangement Syndrome on display in CNN, PBS, ABC, BBC, SBS, C7, C9, C10, Twitter, YouTube, etc, etc?

          Remember, roughly 75 million Americans voted for Trump. You think they did that because the media conned them into thinking he was a good President?

          Maybe you just think America is home to 75 million “deplorables” …

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            glen Michel

            Good rebuttal Steve. I would call it what it is, propaganda. There are few if any balanced positions which has culminated in an overall negative view of the Trump presidency bordering on fanatical hatred. This man has had blanket opposition since the beginning.

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              PeterPetrum

              I think Greg Sheridan is just trying to prove he was correct (justified) in 2016 when he said that Trump would not win. Better late than never, eh, Greg?

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          jelly34

          Ian,why don’t you go back to Pravda.I’m sure they will welcome you with open arms,Until they don’t need you any more.

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          James Murphy

          What atrocious behaviour since Nov 3?
          Other incumbent presidents and candidates have used the legal system to contest electoral results. why is this time any different?

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          truth

          Ian…the ‘thinking people ‘ who…you claim…agree with the Australian’s writers…have been subjected to censorship and lies and wall to wall fake news in Australia for the whole four years of the Trump Presidency and the 2016 campaign before it…by those writers…so they don’t know what they don’t know.

          Contrary to the propaganda….especially from people like the disgusting Kevin Rudd…the delicate little worm who bursts his cheeks if The Australian has one conservative on its staff…….The Australian…terrible though it increasingly is…like FOX….because it’s infested with ‘journalists’….nevertheless has more balance than any other paper in the country and has many hard-Left hacks on its payroll… including Communists.

          You obviously approve mightily of your illegitimate shell ‘President’ [ whether you’re American or not he’s obviously all yours ]…your guy who is totally incapable of fronting a press conference without having what passes for hacks in the US play nursie to him to ensure no question is asked ..unless the dodderer has had a whole day or so to practice his bumbling answer.

          You must also approve……we have to presume…of America becoming an authoritarian totalitarian state that your Uncle Xi would be proud of…and that he means to have….that’s your potty POTUS’ spooky ole benefactor who funds Hunter’s orgies …that are now on the public record….the murderous old spook who will step up the theft of IP….. steal half the country’s US taxpayer-funded science and military secrets…. and will tell your lawless Democrats when it’s time for Joe to go…and will choose Harris’ VP…probably Michelle Obama….on whom a Communist dictator would know he could rely….IMO.

          Whether you’re American or OZ….you’re a proud supporter of an authoritarian totalitarian democracy-hating lying cheating people-hating about-to-be government that is hell-bent on inciting and fomenting violence and setting American vs American….as it forces America via a stolen election…into ragtag old-fashioned Socialism on its way to selling the American people out to Communist China and Socialist Europe.

          Your views are diabolical so hopefully you’re American…although we’ve got too many like you here…but whatever you are … your lack of nous is a danger to the world.

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          Orson

          I agree with Ian. Too bad his Operation Warp Speed failed. His diversion of Norkie U.N. failed, and War again inflames Middle East. Then there’s that unemployment rate so godawefully higher than Europe’s. And he never even reversed that declining male life expectancy rate that Obama messed up!

          THERE AIN’T NO REASON THAT MISERABLE MAN COULD EVAH EXPECT TO GET RE-ELECTED, MUCH LESS THE PEOPLE VOTING AND SUPPORTING HIM!

          Now that you feel better Ian, can you do better than my serial list of LIES? You can’t. LEAVE HERE.

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        dinn, rob

        Planned conflict:
        1-8-21 Mitchell Miller, Capitol Hill correspondent for WTOP: And so when there have been protests in the past, for example, when the Black Lives Matter protests were taking place, all of those barriers stayed in place. Now, of course, there are points where people try to push through, but generally, the police hold the line there. And what was different about this situation was the police, for whatever reason, did not hold the line on at least a major part of that barrier area. Some video shows them possibly letting people in, it’s not really clear, we don’t have the full picture of that. Obviously, that will come up with the investigation into what happened but the fact that they were able to get up the steps that quickly is really remarkable. At other times when the Capitol is open during “regular times,” you’re right, you can get as close as the the lower steps and walk around that area, kind of a courtyard area on the east side that is in between the Supreme Court, the Library of Congress and the Capitol on the east side. But this was certainly something unprecedented. https://federalnewsnetwork.com/congress/2021/01/reporting-during-the-storming-of-the-capitol/
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        1-8-21 Saul Loeb of AFP states: I got to the Capitol around 9 a.m. on Wednesday. It was pretty quiet there and the streets were mostly deserted. Walking in that morning, the security postures were the same as any typical day on Capitol Hill — which was a little surprising, given how many people were in town for the Trump rally, and knowing that they were going to come to the Hill. But at the time I didn’t really think anything of it. It didn’t strike me as strange, because that was the usual situation. But clearly something somewhere went pretty wrong….
        We were on the third floor, and heard a commotion down on the second floor. We went down there, and right outside the door to the Senate chamber, saw about 12 or 15 protesters being confronted by about an equal number of Capitol police officers. 
        What was their interaction like?
        The protesters were dressed in what were almost like costumes. Some of them had on face paint or body paint. There was one guy that wasn’t wearing a shirt and had what looked like a Viking helmet on. There were multiple people waving Trump flags, and a lot wearing MAGA hats. And there’s one protester that was waving around a giant Confederate flag. 
        And what were the police doing about these intruders?
        The police were basically trying to defuse the situation. They were engaged with the protesters and trying to figure out what they wanted, where they were going, or where they wanted to go. And also how to calm the situation down and get them out of the building. https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:vCYIN4U8q9IJ:https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/saul-loeb-maga-insurrection-riot-richard-barnett-photographs-1111717/+&cd=45&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
        ……………..
        1-8-21 The Federal Bureau of Investigation and an intelligence unit inside the Department of Homeland Security didn’t issue a threat assessment of the Jan. 6 pro-Trump protests that devolved into violence inside the Capitol, people briefed on the matter said. At the DHS unit, called Intelligence and Analysis, management didn’t view the demonstrations as posing a significant threat, some of the people said.
        They failed to do this because they purposefully decided they did not need to do it. This, despite it being incredibly clear to even a casual peruser of pro-Trump social media that violence was not just being planned, but also called for and incited. All of it was done out in the open, including by President Trump. The Guardian via MSN has provided a complete timeline of President Trump’s incitement, as well as that by elected Republican officials, going back to Dec. 19, 2020. What we saw yesterday, what the whole world saw, was a failure by the Capitol Police, the FBI, and the Department of Homeland Security. It was a failure of strategic, critical, creative, and historical thinking that led to not having sufficient personnel on site, let alone an effective strategy and plan, to handle what was clearly a possibility: an attempt to violently breach the Capitol to overthrow the election results. We know that the Capitol Police are able to do proper threat assessments, forecasting, and then over-responding to just peaceful protests….At the DHS unit, called Intelligence and Analysis, management didn’t view the demonstrations as posing a significant threat, some of the people said. They failed to do this, because they purposefully decided they did not need to do it. This, despite it being incredibly clear to even a casual peruser of pro-Trump social media that violence was not just being planned, but also called for and incited. All of it was done out in the open, including by President Trump.  The Guardian via MSN has provided a complete timeline of President Trump’s incitement, as well as that by elected Republican officials, going back to Dec. 19, 2020. What we saw yesterday, what the whole world saw, was a failure by the Capitol Police, the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security. It was a failure of strategic, critical, creative, and historical thinking that led to not having sufficient personnel on site, let alone an effective strategy and plan, to handle what was clearly a possibility: an attempt to violently breach the Capitol to overthrow the election results. We know that the Capitol Police are able to do proper threat assessments, forecasting, and then over-responding to just peaceful protests. https://arkvalleyvoice.com/thinking-security-the-failure-of-the-capitol-police-federal-law-enforcement-and-dhs-does-appears-to-be-intentional/

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        Robert R

        You have hit a note there GlenM, you are not kidding about the “Australian Newspaper”! I have been an avid daily reader of the “Australian” for years but had to give up reading it for precisely the reason you complain about – baseless stuff about Trump coming from these “journos” you mentioned in particular, with the real evidence of what is going on around Trump ignored by them.

        I used to love reading this paper at the coffee shop every morning but can’t bring myself to look at it now because I like to get all the facts of what is going on.

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          PeterPetrum

          Me too, Robert. The Australian has been a real disappointment regarding Trump for the full four years. Their US correspondent, Cameron Stewart, gives the impression of being imbedded in the CNN building, as I have not read one word from him in support of the President.

          My scanning of the Oz in the morning now takes me right to the bottom, to see Johannas Leake’s cartoon, always succinct, to the point and just as good as his Dad’s were.

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            Robert R

            Very true. This newspaper never used to be like that. Thats why it used to be so good. Perhaps they should just concentrate on cartoons now! 🙂

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    Chrism

    First they came for for their opponents

    Finally they came for their supporters … nb

    take note & note well

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      OldOzzie

      Why Are They So Afraid of Us?

      January 8, 2021. As a conservative political writer, which I’ve been for some time, Friday night had the weird feel of a surrealistic, conservative-thought-purging Kristallnacht.

      Clearly, this was a planned, coordinated attack. Just as clearly, it was an ominous harbinger of more to come. In a word, conservatives, I’m afraid we ain’t seen nothin’, yet. As Friday evening continued to unfold, I found myself pondering the answer to one question:

      Why are they so afraid of us?

      Certainly, there are precedents. Lenin’s Russian Revolution and Mao’s Long March come to mind. Less historical but with similar implication, universities protesting if not banning on-campus speeches by conservative activists, such as Ben Shapiro, Ann Coulter, and others.

      Again, why are they so afraid of us?

      From Lenin and Mao, to America’s universities, to Jack Dorsey’s Twitter and Mark Zuckerberg’s Facebook, to CNN pressuring cable carriers to drop Fox News, what are those who seek to silence the voices of others so damn afraid of?

      They are afraid of us because they are afraid of the truth.

      By that I mean they are afraid of the truth destroying their narratives. Isn’t that the way it’s been throughout history? The first thing a totalitarian does is eliminate a free press. That, and execute intellectuals and free-thinkers.

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        Ted O'Brien.

        This time there should be arrests, “outings”, and convictions. Backed by large numbers of photos and videos.

        The tools they use to destroy Trump should work against them this time. Especially if reports that Trump’s popularity has increased are true.

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        Hanrahan

        Isn’t that the way it’s been throughout history? The first thing a totalitarian does is eliminate a free press.

        In the movies the second thing the Dogs Of War go for, after the palace, is the TV station.

        Anyone need more proof that this is a coup?

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        Ian

        Don’t kid yourself Old Ozzie, neither the press or the people are afraid of Conservatives they just ignore them as being utterly irrelevant. If and it is a big if, Conservatives can shake off their archaic beliefs and realise the world is not still in 1956 they may once again be relevant. But right now? No way.

        It is telling that Georgia returned two Democrat Senators in the January 5 election which shows just what the voters thought of soon to be ex president Trump. And although Trump stated the Senate runoffs were fraudulent yet again he had no evidence to back his claim. He really is a [Snip][Go easy on the baiting the moderation bucket is nearly empty]AD

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          Richard Jenkins

          Ian the barricades made it impossible for scrutineers in that senate election. It was fraudulent. It will never change now that USA {our last hope) has been robbed of freespeech and democracy.

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          PeterPetrum

          And, as before, voting machines developed “faults”, requiring a halt to counting, with numbers of votes changing again after counting stopped. Same as before, same result as before, the Dems could not have won otherwise in Georgia.

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        truth

        Your last paragraph is spot on.

        They know of course that they are lying with malice aforethought…about almost everything …not just the election….but lying in order to miseducate generations of children…lying in order to blight the lives of the next generations and weaken them with the gender fluidity rubbish…lying in order to distance children from their parents….lying in order to desecrate suburban living that’s inimical to totalitarian control and so must perish.

        They’ve lied unmercifully about Trump and lied and broken the law to steal the election…IMO….because they know all of their other lies would gradually be exposed during a second Trump term as he honored the rest of his promises…giving Americans the security of an orderly process enabled by completion of the wall on the Southern border with the security in the community and suburbs that that would bring…empowerment of ICE etc…disrupting the money funnel from their CCP benefactors…exposing more Swalwells and the politicians like Pelosi whose actions facilitate the CCP’s honeypotting…more exposures about BidenInc and Clinton Inc….and McConnell Inc….and the rest of them.

        And they have to do whatever it takes to protect their big overarching lie that they’ve hoped will do what the slaughter of more than 100 million innocent people in their Socialist ideology’s name failed to do… ie their CAGW hoax….their big lie purporting to ‘save the planet’….the lie that’s really designed as a last ditch campaign to destroy national sovereignty…to eliminate individualism….herd the populations of the whole world into corrals under their long-dreamed-of Global Socialism …on the Fabian/ George Bernard Shaw model where …as Shaw proudly explained….those human beings perceived by the elites to be not shaping up…are not ‘shipped out’ to gulags or whatever….but eliminated ….liquidated in the Stalin fashion.

        People whose lives…status and power are built on lies necessarily live precariously…so we can expect no admissions or capitulation from this lot…they are living too dangerously to risk that …their lies have to be exposed …in detail and proven…and that exposure will shake the whole world….so that even their damaged followers can no longer pretend.

        IMO they hate Trump so viscerally because they’ve recognised that they’ve now encountered a leader who has the courage to put a stop to their death grip on so much of the world.

        This is truly a fight to the death that we’ve never seen before…IMO.

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      OldOzzie

      AOC Lets Us Know That Healing Means Abject Surrender and Submission

      A short while ago, failed bartender, high school science fair winner and New York Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez made an interesting and significant statement about the current state of American politics via the official party organ of the left, Twitter.

      Since it appears GOP leaders need a reminder:

      There is no “healing” from this without accountability.

      And there is no “unity” with white supremacists.

      You know the President’s state has devolved dangerously. If you’re too weak to do anything about it, you’re too weak to serve.

      As AOC is arguably one of the more lucid of the House radicals it would do us well to remember this does not represent a view of the actual sentiment of the more radical members of the House…which now includes Nancy Pelosi. It is the sanitized for public consumption version. It would also serve us well to take her at her word.

      What she is doing is saying that if Republican officeholders don’t take action to remove President Trump that they have forfeited the right to remain in office. She, obviously, doesn’t have the power as of yet to enforce that dicta but the fact that she would expel members of the House for not doing what they are told by a twit from the opposing party brings her totalitarian and anti-American nature into full view.

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      OldOzzie

      ABC News Calls For “Cleansing” Of Trump Supporters

      Thank the good lord for screen shots.

      Political Director for @ABC News based in Washington DC appears to have deleted his tweet about the 75 million Americans who voted for Trump that talked about the challenge of “cleansing the movement.”

      But this was no mere slip-up of a lone network employee on social media. ABC News published a piece in which Klein echoed his message. His views are apparently shared by others at the legacy media outlet.

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      OldOzzie

      The Left Is Enjoying Its Reichstag Fire Moment

      BY ROBERT SPENCER

      No one can point to any statement from President Trump calling upon his supporters to storm the Capitol, much less to stage a coup against the U.S. government, but it doesn’t matter anymore. The establishment media and the social media giants are insisting that he incited the attack on the Capitol and was trying to install himself as a dictator by means of a guy with a buffalo horn hat and some other dopes and wingnuts, and if you don’t believe it, you’re a racist, bigoted, MAGA-hat-wearing fascist who deserves to be silenced along with the president, and soon will be. But it’s clear who the real fascists are, and they are exploiting their Reichstag Fire moment to the fullest.

      On February 27, 1933, four weeks after Adolf Hitler became Chancellor of Germany, the Reichstag, the German parliament building in Berlin, caught fire. The culprit was a Dutch Communist, Marinus van der Lubbe, who apparently had acted alone. Hitler, however, insisted that the Communist Party, which was a considerable force within the Reichstag, had set the fire, and pressed German President Paul von Hindenburg to approve of an emergency law suspending civil liberties. Communist leaders, including the Communist members of the Reichstag, were hunted down and arrested.

      Without their presence in the Reichstag, the National Socialists and their coalition partners had a majority. That enabled the Nazis to pass a further law, the Enabling Act, on March 23, 1933, giving Hitler dictatorial powers and removing any obstacle to his absolute supremacy.

      The All-Out Assault on Conservative Thought Has Just Begun

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        markx

        No one can point to any….

        Prior to:
        We’re gonna walk down to the Capitol,” President Trump said on Wednesday, “because you’ll never take back our country with weakness, you have to show strength.”

        During the capitol invasion:
        “These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously and viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly and unfairly treated for so long,” he tweeted as the occupation of Capitol Hill unfolded.

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      OldOzzie

      Has Twitter Told A Terrible Lie?

      Shares of Twitter were down nearly 4% in after-hours trading Friday night following the platform’s permanent ban of President Trump’s account “due to the risk of further incitement of violence.”

      Shares were trading at $49.54 as of 8 p.m., down 3.77% from the closing price of $51.48 Friday afternoon. Twitter the ban at 6:21 p.m.

      There’s a decent argument to be made that Jack and his company have misled their shareholders. The general public has certainly been misled by this 2015 example of liberal pie-in-the-sky rhetoric.

      4th Par: “Twitter is a public, real-time platform where any user can create a Tweet and any user can follow other users. We do not impose restrictions on whom a user can follow.”🧐 88 million people beg to differ. Remember people, your pensions, 401ks & retirements paid for this.

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    Dennis

    It confirms what tens of millions of people world wide have been worried about for a long time, and why we who are not US citizens welcomed the election in 2016 of President Trump.

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    Dennis

    I still can’t rate this?

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    JB

    Instead of West China how about East Peking.

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      dinn, rob

      Planned conflict:
      1-8-21 Mitchell Miller, Capitol Hill correspondent for WTOP: And so when there have been protests in the past, for example, when the Black Lives Matter protests were taking place, all of those barriers stayed in place. Now, of course, there are points where people try to push through, but generally, the police hold the line there. And what was different about this situation was the police, for whatever reason, did not hold the line on at least a major part of that barrier area. Some video shows them possibly letting people in, it’s not really clear, we don’t have the full picture of that. Obviously, that will come up with the investigation into what happened but the fact that they were able to get up the steps that quickly is really remarkable. At other times when the Capitol is open during “regular times,” you’re right, you can get as close as the the lower steps and walk around that area, kind of a courtyard area on the east side that is in between the Supreme Court, the Library of Congress and the Capitol on the east side. But this was certainly something unprecedented. https://federalnewsnetwork.com/congress/2021/01/reporting-during-the-storming-of-the-capitol/
      ………………………………………………………
      1-8-21 Saul Loeb of AFP states: I got to the Capitol around 9 a.m. on Wednesday. It was pretty quiet there and the streets were mostly deserted. Walking in that morning, the security postures were the same as any typical day on Capitol Hill — which was a little surprising, given how many people were in town for the Trump rally, and knowing that they were going to come to the Hill. But at the time I didn’t really think anything of it. It didn’t strike me as strange, because that was the usual situation. But clearly something somewhere went pretty wrong….
      We were on the third floor, and heard a commotion down on the second floor. We went down there, and right outside the door to the Senate chamber, saw about 12 or 15 protesters being confronted by about an equal number of Capitol police officers. 
      What was their interaction like?
      The protesters were dressed in what were almost like costumes. Some of them had on face paint or body paint. There was one guy that wasn’t wearing a shirt and had what looked like a Viking helmet on. There were multiple people waving Trump flags, and a lot wearing MAGA hats. And there’s one protester that was waving around a giant Confederate flag. 
      And what were the police doing about these intruders?
      The police were basically trying to defuse the situation. They were engaged with the protesters and trying to figure out what they wanted, where they were going, or where they wanted to go. And also how to calm the situation down and get them out of the building. https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:vCYIN4U8q9IJ:https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/saul-loeb-maga-insurrection-riot-richard-barnett-photographs-1111717/+&cd=45&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
      ……………..
      1-8-21 The Federal Bureau of Investigation and an intelligence unit inside the Department of Homeland Security didn’t issue a threat assessment of the Jan. 6 pro-Trump protests that devolved into violence inside the Capitol, people briefed on the matter said. At the DHS unit, called Intelligence and Analysis, management didn’t view the demonstrations as posing a significant threat, some of the people said.
      They failed to do this because they purposefully decided they did not need to do it. This, despite it being incredibly clear to even a casual peruser of pro-Trump social media that violence was not just being planned, but also called for and incited. All of it was done out in the open, including by President Trump. The Guardian via MSN has provided a complete timeline of President Trump’s incitement, as well as that by elected Republican officials, going back to Dec. 19, 2020. What we saw yesterday, what the whole world saw, was a failure by the Capitol Police, the FBI, and the Department of Homeland Security. It was a failure of strategic, critical, creative, and historical thinking that led to not having sufficient personnel on site, let alone an effective strategy and plan, to handle what was clearly a possibility: an attempt to violently breach the Capitol to overthrow the election results. We know that the Capitol Police are able to do proper threat assessments, forecasting, and then over-responding to just peaceful protests….At the DHS unit, called Intelligence and Analysis, management didn’t view the demonstrations as posing a significant threat, some of the people said. They failed to do this, because they purposefully decided they did not need to do it. This, despite it being incredibly clear to even a casual peruser of pro-Trump social media that violence was not just being planned, but also called for and incited. All of it was done out in the open, including by President Trump.  The Guardian via MSN has provided a complete timeline of President Trump’s incitement, as well as that by elected Republican officials, going back to Dec. 19, 2020. What we saw yesterday, what the whole world saw, was a failure by the Capitol Police, the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security. It was a failure of strategic, critical, creative, and historical thinking that led to not having sufficient personnel on site, let alone an effective strategy and plan, to handle what was clearly a possibility: an attempt to violently breach the Capitol to overthrow the election results. We know that the Capitol Police are able to do proper threat assessments, forecasting, and then over-responding to just peaceful protests. https://arkvalleyvoice.com/thinking-security-the-failure-of-the-capitol-police-federal-law-enforcement-and-dhs-does-appears-to-be-intentional/

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    Meglort

    Interesting to see what was in the DNI report.
    They are obviously panicking over something.

    It sounds like Lindell is quite sure of things:
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/AFYlUz9tpV7L/

    Could this all be Mr Mnuchin’s finest work yet?

    “He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.”
    Revelations 13:10

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    AndrewWA

    That’s OK…if I was invited I wouldn’t attend either.

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    TomR

    1. Having information is a prerequisite to making decision. You make decision based on input information. The decision will represent your intentions only if the input to your decision covers all the necessary information.

    Democracy is a process of people making decisions. Democracy thus – in order to work – requires access to all the necessary information to make decisions. This includes negative information about the objects of decisions. So limitations on information mean there’s no functioning democracy. This includes both government censorship, as well as tech monopolies censorship.

    2. Isn’t discrimination based on political views or affiliation a classic case of discrimination that is banned by law?

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      Deano

      In a war, the truth is censored and protected by a wall of lies.

      There is no shortage of claims on those platforms about fake moon landings, 911, Roswell aliens, fluoride, COVID-19, JFK etc etc. Why is Trump being singled out? If he was peddling nonsense they’d welcome it in order to highlight how wacko he was. He has them rattled.

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      Spetzer86

      When you’re trying to form a One World government, I don’t think you care very much about letting others know what’s going on around them. Otherwise, they might start asking impertinent questions about the all new neighbors.

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      el gordo

      It has a lot to do with accepted norms and the medium really is the message.

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      Lawrie

      You are so right Tom R. Slightly OT. If the people were told the true cost of renewable energy, both monetary and environmental, do you believe they would still clamour for more wind and solar? Would politicians still pursue their green agendas if Mr and Mrs Average were aware of the facts. Bill Shorten lost the last election partly because he would not/could not put a price on his environmental policies.

      It is obvious that many people here judge Trump on what they read and hear in the local MSM. When they say they can’t stand the man and you ask them why? What has he done? They can’t say because they have not been told of his many achievements, only a few unfortunate words that if uttered by another would be simply quirky.

      This is not the end but the beginning of something great. In time it will be seen as the “Great Reset” but not as the socialists planned. The socialists jumped the gun and with the wrong guy leading the opposition. Trump is not a Romney or a McConnell or a Bush. Trump is a fighter with principles, unable to be bought and a huge personal following and that scares the excreta out of the Democrats.

      Well it is raining again and I have a cow down so I’ll go and try and stand her up. Thank God for FELs.

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      truth

      The equal treatment clause has been breached everywhere in this election and its aftermath.

      Where does SCOTUS stand on the virtual repeal of the equal treatment rights ?

      Radio silence as on everything else…..so what’s their purpose?

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    roger w carradice

    Hi Jo
    I am writing from a snowy north of England, where our Met Office said we would never see snow again. I would like through you blog to make a suggestion to our friends in the US. That on the the 20th of Jan that they put up posters across the country with a photo of Joe Biden saying ‘wanted for election theft.’ From the BBC it is clear they think Trump has been routed and his supporters need to show that they are still there.
    Roger

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    Serp

    the plural of ego is egos without the fruiterer’s apostrophe Jo

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    Gerry, England

    I was about to admit to having no great knowledge of phones and android – would never touch a phone from the evil Apple empire – and going to ask why do you have to get apps from the Google store when I found that the answer is you don’t. See here: https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-install-apps-outside-of-google-play/#:~:text=Google%20has%20removed%20apps%20from,they%20violate%20the%20company%27s%20policy.&text=You%20may%20not%20have%20been,process%20known%20as%20“sideloading.”

    So Parler could just advise on how to do this. Yes, I can see the Google will probably fight back to try to lock out android but it is an open source OS which would suggest it could be got round anyway. Humans have a great way of finding ways around things.

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    CHRIS

    The United States of America is a Republic…NOT a democracy. At least, not until they get their electoral system in some sort of logical order (Which, at present, it is not)

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      el gordo

      The US Constitution was written up in the 18th century, it needs some tinkering to get a good fit in the new world order. Electorally they need compulsory voting, that should fix the problem.

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        You won’t fix the problem by changing the constitution (or any laws) if the same rules/laws are not followed.

        There was plenty of evidence presented that some US states made changes that the constitution specifically disallowed yet nothing has been done to correct these flagrant crimes.

        If rules/regulations worked then there would be no crime.

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    Orson

    A non insurrectionist explains wandering into the Capitol, among hundreds who are awed by the Senate Chamber and prays, while hating the demise of our Constitution by our failed leaders.

    7 minutes of honest exasperation:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOjzEj_r0E4

    He wraps it up with “None of these people in Congress will listen!…What are we supposed to do?”

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      Roger Knights

      His actual last words were much better: “None of these people in congress—they just don’t listen. Well, hello, can you hear me now?”

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    Orson

    Glenn Reynolds says: “This does seem like a good way to re-unify the Republican Party, though.” There is that.

    One might think so. But no, Hell no! Trust once broken cannot be repaired easily. If EVAH!

    And what the Hell were these professional rubes thinking! The Left lies habitually, and then attacks and punishes any stray cat free thinker according to “current Party plan” which tells people what to think. These evil miscreants are Swamp Dwellers unfit to LEAD anyone, except as animal control agents to a cage!

    (cf, the news irony web site http://www.thepeoplescube.com, a web site of ex-Soviet communist agit-prop artists and writer who established their site to express their alarm of the same damn thing happening in the US after escaping their sick nation!)

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      OldOzzie

      Tucker Carlson Wonders Why the GOP Loathes Its Voters and Explains a Lot of Things in the Process

      Last night on Tucker Carlson’s show, he looked at the demonstration that took place in the US Capitol (no, it was not an insurrection) and the actions of the Democrats. He wondered why they were labeling the people who marched on the Capitol as “domestic terrorists” (because you have to be a terrorist to want to make sure the Constitution is followed, right?) and “seditionists” and “insurrectionists”–and by extension, some tens of millions who supported them as “terrorist enablers?” More importantly, he wondered why they could do this without anyone from the Republican party pushing back. The answer he arrived at is only surprising because someone of Carlson’s background had the perception to see it. The video is cued up.

      Why is no one defending them? The main problem, and this really is the main problem on the right, is that the people who run the Republican Party don’t really like their own voters. They especially don’t want the voters that Trump brought. Trump brought a noticeably downscale element to the party’s ranks, and this horrifies them.

      Many Republicans in Washington now despise the people they’re supposed to represent and protect. In fact, it’s not just Republican leaders who feel this way, but our entire leadership class. You rarely hear it spoken out loud, but it’s the truth.

      A very specific form of internal loathing is at the core of the reaction to Donald Trump. Nothing is more repulsive to socially anxious White professionals than working class people who look like them. The proles are their single greatest fear. They remind them of where they may have come from or where they could be going if things turn south.

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        Lawrie

        Now just tell me OldOzzie how these Republican royalty types expect to keep their jobs if Trump supporters withdraw their votes. The people on the plane with Mitt Romney will not vote for him so who will? The SOS and Governor in Georgia cannot expect those Trump voters to vote for them ever again so who will. Maybe I missed something but is there another large group of Republican voters just sloshing around waiting to vote for Mitt and Mitch and who did not vote for Trump? How many Republicans were returned this last election on the coattails of Trump and how many subsequently knifed him in the back?

        The GOP appears to be a bunch of rats no better than the criminals in the Democrats.

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    John Dawson

    A short but pertinent piece on Spiked here highlighting the mental disconnect of the Twitter censors:

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/01/08/why-is-twitter-censoring-trump-but-not-the-ccp/

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    truth

    Journalists across the world except for a few are indicting themselves….IMO.

    It seems only a handful of journalists in the world have any integrity…judgment…moral compass at all.

    Almost all commentary …especially from UK and Germany…has zero to say about the Fascist totalitarian nature of the actions and overall response the ‘Democrats’ are presiding over, protected by and inciting in the US.

    A journalist doesn’t have to have evidence in his hand, to know that prior to the election, the American people were deliberately and militantly deprived of information by the Tech tyrants and almost all of the MSM …a deliberate act to interfere with the election by conferring a huge advantage on the Biden side……as I believe the go-slow on the Durham report also was.

    FGS the censorship was announced!

    The whole world knows but the world’s journalists have never acknowledged or factored in …the incontrovertible facts…. that journalists and Big Tech took it upon themselves to place their cloak of protection solicitously over a nefarious family and party…to make Biden and the ‘Democrats’ a protected species ….their lawlessness unknown to a large number of voters…in order to give them a massive advantage over Trump….it’s just irrefutable fact.

    The whole world knows, but journalists have never acknowledged…that the States in question breached election laws and the Federal Constitution…. in ways that could only enable and facilitate fraudulent voting and counting.

    That fact alone …without any other evidence …makes the election result unsafe.

    Presumably the world’s journalists know that it can’t be right for Supreme Court Justices to refuse to say why they apparently think that’s a particular breach that’s of no consequence..ie that the unconstitutional changes made by people unqualified by law to make those changes ….is of no consequence…ie that the integrity of a Presidential election is of no consequence.

    Surely journalists should be asking why Supreme Court Justices are virtually saying that the Amendment that mandates equal treatment under the law …that was demonstrably breached when Biden voters were called in to redo their votes and Trump voters were not…when some states allowed votes long past the cutoff date and others did not etc etc…is suddenly not important enough for them to deal with…not even important enough to listen to it….and have presented to them the evidence on it.?

    Are they going to ask Congress to repeal that equal treatment clause…strike it from the Constitution…since it appears they think it’s irrelevant?

    The thing is journalists worldwide …and politicians …almost to a person are signalling that it’s of no consequence that the US election may have been stolen, and that the SCOTUS is OK with that…endorsing it by their dereliction….and yet they’re sliming and defaming Trump and no one else from every corner of the world …for wanting the evidence to be examined in its entirety by the Justices of the SCOTUS who have all solemnly sworn to uphold the laws of the US.

    They have no problem around the world with the American people being silenced if they voted the ‘wrong way’ or if they express fears that the election was fraudulent…and they’re over the moon that the lawless ‘Democrats’ who used the DeepState and Russian spies to fraudulently confect a dossier of lies vs Trump, that they knew were lies…….are now sanctimoniously impeaching Trump.

    And we’re supposed to pretend it’s Donald Trump who’s inciting the disenfranchised American people?

    The Socialist world had better not try to flog their CAGW claptrap to us…we’re in absolutely no doubt of their dishonesty now…

    Unless they’re going to use force on us….CAGW is over.

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    John R Smith

    Not that I don’t think it’s going to get ugly.
    But, these are acts of weakness.
    Signifier if argument lost.
    Happens when the facts aren’t on your side.
    Best I can tell, history teaches us it won’t stand.

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    Jojodogfacedboy

    Jo, I hope this catches on when Biden is sworn in…
    “Fake President Biden”.

    We all know who won this.

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    Big data must to be sued. Section 230 doesn’t apply, as the indmenity is limited to actions done in good faith. Actions designed to precipitate a civil war are not being done in good faith.

    A class action suit representing 74 million Trump supporters is in order.

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      David Maddison

      That’s fine but what are the chances of the Leftist courts hearing it? They won’t even take election fraud seriously.

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        Harry Passfield

        David, don’t civil suits get heard regardless? Imagine, 30 Million (less than half Trump supporters) donated ONE dollar….
        Worth a dollar of my money to see.

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    David Maddison

    Mark Dice talks about censorship in socialist media and how it is much worse than most people realise.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/xv_YgT5ihIQ/

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      Serp

      Thanks for that; it led me to discover that Youtube downloader (youtube-dl.exe) is now able again to download bitchute videos.

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    roman

    With this blatant techno fascism, I finally, just this evening, paid for an email service to get myself off gmail. Have been meaning to do it for years.

    Feels almost strange to use a service that does what it’s built to do, as opposed to gmail that was built to harvest personal data for targeted advertising. How the hell did THAT ever become normal?!?

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      OldOzzie

      Conservative #WalkAway group kicked off Facebook amid purge, moves to CloutHub

      Group had half a million followers on Facebook

      Starka later revealed that WalkAway would be moving social media operations to CloutHub, a social media network that has billed itself as a free speech alternative to sites like FaceBook.

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        Serp

        The problem being that AppStore and GooglePlay will no longer offer the app, because hate, and Android operating system has a right reserved in the fine print to disable phones used for thoughtcrime. Big Tech has learned well the Celestial Thought of Xi Jinping on free speech with chinese characteristics.

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    David Maddison

    In the Mark Dice video I posted which is in moderation, he says how Google considered prohibiting Trump team members having Gmail accounts and even disabling their Android phones.

    That’s the next terrifying move, the possibility that the Socialist Billionaires could actually disable your phone.

    As far as I know there are no popular smartphone platforms other than Android (Google) or Apple. Variations that do exist are based on Android.

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      Lucky

      Smart phone platforms- Variations that do exist are based on Android.
      There are one or two from China that you could (or not) think about.
      Better, review the need for a smart phone.

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    David Maddison

    I am about to become a Ham radio operator. At least I’ll have a communication channel not controlled by the Billionaire Socialists.

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    OldOzzie

    And there is more – Trump Campaign Banned From EMAILING Supporters After Being Suspended By Mail Service Provider

    The Trump campaign is now blocked from emailing their millions of supporters after being suspended by their email service provider.
    The suspension comes shortly after President Donald Trump and his campaign were permanently banned from Twitter.

    The email service, Campaign Monitor, confirmed the suspension of the account to Financial Times’ Dave Lee.

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    OldOzzie

    Jonathan Turley Issues a Warning to Democrats About Impeachment 2.0

    Liberal law professor Jonathan Turley on Saturday issued a warning about Democrats’ long-term damage to the Constitution should they continue to press forward with their plans to impeach President Donald Trump (yet again) as his administration comes to a close.

    “In seeking his removal for ‘incitement,’ Democrats would gut not only the impeachment standard but free speech, all in a mad rush to remove Trump just days before the end of his term,” Turley wrote in an opinion piece for The Hill.

    Although the law professor took issue with Trump’s speech before supporters, as well as Republicans objections to certifying the electoral votes in Joe Biden’s favor, Turley said the president’s speech doesn’t “meet the definition of incitement under the U.S. criminal code.” In fact, Trump’s speech is deemed “protected speech” under the First Amendment, the professor noted.

    Turley also pinpointed one thing Democrats fail to recognize: the President Trump never called for violence. He simply urged his supporters to march towards the Capitol, something that’s common place in Washington, D.C.

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      Louise

      Turkey’s warnings will fall on deaf ears.

      I don’t believe the Democrats have regards for either protected rights nor the constitution. We saw that during the election with blue counties/ballots being cured while the opposite in red counties. That’s a violation. No consequences. SCOTUS irresponsibly MIA on their core duty which was to protect the constitution.

      This is about persecution and humiliation and ensuring they neutralise the only threat to their ‘dominion’. Trump can mobilise tens of millions like no other.

      It serves to set a precedent though for going after Waters and Harris who are on video record inciting. Maybe small businesses looted and burned by BLM and ANTIFA could sue for damages? Not that I have any faith in courts to apply law and precedent equally.

      I think that has been the other goal achieved. Each pillar that once upheld the US as a Republic has been damaged, its institutions from Justice to Intelligence compromised. It’s the deliberate undermining of the US as a world superpower. China wins.

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    OldOzzie

    Another Top Player in the Conservative Movement Just Dumped Twitter Amid Massive Conservative Purge

    Rush Limbaugh has jettisoned Twitter. It’s gone. He was not suspended or banned. He deactivated his account.

    Trump is banned. Limbaugh went into the bunker, but scores of conservatives are getting purged from the platform. It’s in the thousands. Prominent conservatives have seen follower counts drop in the thousands. Our sister site Redstate has more:

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      Great Aunt Janet

      I used to read tweets but not log in, not sure if clicking on them added to some kind of score, so I’ve deleted my links and joined gab, parler and locals instead.

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        Serp

        I did one experimental tweet on Anzac Day 2010 and haven’t used it since; curiously enough I have one follower I think of a different name from the single follower I observed a year or more ago.

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    Wet Mountains

    I once spent some time in Southeast Asia, sequestered on a small section of land. Once a week or so, when conditions allowed, they would chopper in a film. We would stretch a sheet on the sandbag bunker, get out the movie projector, fire up the generator and watch a movie. Of the dozens of movies I must have watched, I remember only one. The movie title, “Z”. I have seen it only the one time. But it stuck with me. We are living that movie today and have been for a while.
    A synopsis: A government and the media were one. Everything shown or said in the media was because the government wanted it shown and spoken. No other thought allowed.
    https://www.amazon.com/Z-English-Subtitled-Yves-Montand/dp/B004CUFTIM
    We have allowed a few deviants in “Hollywood” to enter our homes via Television and convince millions their view of reality is the proper view. Relentlessly, over decades, like a constrictor, ever tighter and today we see the coup-de-grace. In the times to come, loose your cell phones or use as false flag, they are electronic beacons. Get your HAM license.

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    OldOzzie

    OPINION: WASHINGTON SECRETS

    Poll: ‘Civil War’ expectations reach new high, 71% of Trump voters

    When asked, “Who won the election technically?” the responses were:

    If you believe Civil War coming: 17% Biden won, 81% Trump won, 3% unsure
    If you believe no Civil War coming: 55% Biden, 25% Trump, 14% unsure
    Unsure on Civil War: 40% Biden, 48% Trump, 12% unsure

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      The HyperVentilating, Depraved, and MOST Deplorable (and still asleep) Vlad the Impaler

      For whatever it might be worth, and also O/T:

      Friday evening, I made e-mail contact with one of the Representatives in the Wyoming State House (in and for Natrona County, where I live). I am a casual acquaintance of this Representative, so he does know me.

      In the message, I begged him to confer with his fellow Legislators, and confer with our (Republican) Governor, the Honorable Mark Gordon, and my prayer and request was that the State of Wyoming initiate (not just talk about) seceding from the (now) Banana Republic States of America.

      A native of Utah, I’ve maintained contact with any number of friends who still live there, and the subject has also been mentioned, but not in any official sense (the Utah State Legislature has not taken any action, yet, but I do not think it would take much to start a process there, if any other State was to start something.

      Apart from Colorado, almost every other State adjoining Wyoming is nominally considered to be a ‘red’ State; my sense is that any leadership shown in the direction of secession has the potential to avalanche. Secession is a much preferable action to a civil war; the parties at least have the potential to peaceably go their separate ways.

      It’s bleedin’ obvious that D.C. is no longer responsive to the citizens; it is therefore our duty, as well as our right, to dissociate from those who no longer have our best interests at heart.

      And, as I told the Wyoming State legislator, I think there’s a perfect candidate for our first President; from what I hear, he may be looking for employment.

      My Regards to all, and may the Good Lord Bless and Keep us all, and especially President Trump and his family,

      Vlad

      P. S. I was waiting for a “Weekend Unthreaded” to post this, but wonderful OldOzzie had an ‘opening’, of sorts, with his post, so I thought, ‘What the heck! The worst that can happen is the Mods kick me off the website, and I get a tongue-lashing from our lovely hostess’ (with the mostest) … … …

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        David Maddison

        But seccession would break up the United States and it would no longer be united. I think the answer lies in the US Constitution and its founding documents. In the Declaration of Independence it is very clear that it is the right of the people to alter or abolish a government that no longer serves the needs and the rights of the people. Plus, you shouldn’t reward criminals for their illegal behaviour. If they steal your car or money you don’t let them keep it but you take it back. In the case of taking back the US, this is why you have the Second Amendment as the ultimate reset button for the Constitution when all other means have been exhausted.

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          The HyperVentilating, Depraved, and MOST Deplorable (and still asleep) Vlad the Impaler

          A very good day to you, Mr. Maddison (I love that name, even if the spelling is different), and Happy New Year to you and yours:

          I do NOT disagree with you in any respect; the Second Amendment (for all it is worth, given what socialism/communism has done with it of late … ) is the ultimate reset. If it comes to that, then so be it.

          My suggestion is that we see if there might be an alternative that will not require any bloodshed or other armed conflict. Without any knowledge of how such a scenario might play out, here is one possibility, and it is not even a likely outcome:

          From someone’s previous post, it was determined that there were almost 3,000 counties (subjurisdictions within the various States) won by Trump. Less than 500 counties were won by Barris/Hiden. It is said that one could start on any coast (East, Gulf, or West) and stay within “Trump” territory to any other coast.

          Let us assume this to be the case.

          So, one by one, various states notify D.C. that they no longer recognize the authority of the thing called the Congress, or the Administration, or the Supreme Court, and will hereinafter be establishing their own Legislative, Administrative, and Judicial authorities. In the scenario I envision, if an entire State does not want to secede, individual counties within those states would have to option to join the secession. Note the precedent of how West Virginia came into being, at the outset of the 1860 Civil War (“The War Between the States”, if you come from Dixie … ).

          Given the above assumption of “Trump” or ‘red’ counties, the new nation formed by seceded States and counties would comprise anywhere from 75% to 85% of what was once called the ‘United’ States of America. The ‘red’ territory would be, by and large, the center portion of the former USA, with a couple of ‘blue’ holes in it where Colorado (for example) and Illinois, possibly Wisconsin (although there are some portions, away from the Madison/Milwaukee nexus, that are largely red; see above, about individual counties making their own choices), Minnesota, and who knows what else, staying with the “United” States.

          This means that there would be the isolated islands of “USA”, plus the coastal States, mostly California, Oregon (see eastern Oregon for another place with lots of ‘red’) Washington State (eastern Washington State also having a lot of ‘red’), and the New England States, as comprising the “United” States. Pelosi, Soros, Schiff-head, and Barry Sotero are free to do whatever they like within those jurisdictional boundaries. The rest of us, those of us who actually work, and produce, and pay for DemoncRAT largess, will keep to ourselves, while they fall to pieces under their communist utopia.

          War is such a counter-productive way to accomplish anything. I would much prefer to find a way to separate ourselves from the socialist/totalitarian/authoritarian elitists through peaceful means. If they do not want peace, then we’ll be glad to do it another way.

          Consider that between North Dakota and a nice chunk of SE Wyoming/extreme Western Nebraska, we have about 80% of the “United” States ICBM warheads, not to mention some fairly large Air Force bases, with B1-B’s and B-52’s (some in South Dakota, Utah, and Texas). All ‘red’ states, by the way.

          I’d think twice before I decided to start something, given the “small” imbalance in assets.

          As we are fond of saying in Wyoming, ‘Peace, through superior firepower.’ (aside from our State motto: “Welcome to Wyoming. Consider everyone armed. Have a nice day.”).

          And, as the late great General George S. Patton said, “One hundred rounds expended is not firepower. One round expended, and one hit scored, that’s firepower!”

          Regards to you and yours, Mr. Maddison, and please keep up all the great posts you make; I read them all (several times, in some cases … ),

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            Great Aunt Janet

            Ha! Enjoyed the Wyoming sayings (glad you are armed, all those bears…) – and you live in a beautiful (and red) part of the world Vlad.

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            David Maddison

            Thanks for your kind words, Vlad.

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            Serp

            Yeah Vlad, that red counties six to one preponderance annihilates the justice of the presidential outcome; eighteen of nineteen bellwethers plus Iowa, Ohio, Florida and Biden is the first president ever to be elected without them. Ain’t life grand, always the unexpected… Australia opted out of the arms race but I daresay we host a bevy of your missile silos in places unknown controlled through Pine Gap.

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    TdeF

    What is notable about the reporting of the march on Washington is that it is not reported. It was certainly not called a protest by anyone, unlike this article. There was no basis for a massive march except anarchy, and slavish devotion to the Trump Cult.

    So why were they all waving American flags? Veterans? Why were they unarmed? Why didn’t they set fire to the place? And why only Washington. And why was the woman shot dead an American veteran?

    Consider that fifty cities suffered devastating damage from ongoing riots and ‘protests’ over the death of violent career criminal Floyd but no one suggests that the march on Washington had a basis, that Congress was potentially participating in stealing an election and hiding the evidence. No one reporter mentioned why the people were marching in their hundreds of thousands. And no one asked them.

    Thousands of American flags and people dressed in red, white and blue, not black all over. And not a clenched fist or hammer and sickle to be seen. No burning and looting or murder, except by the authorities. But it was a giant riot, not a peaceful protest. And they dared enter the people’s house and take their case to the politicans who fled.

    This is because there was no theft of the election and these American deplorables were just a cult, not protesters at all. The election has not been stolen. The country is in good hands of Twitter, Google, Apple, the DNC and the CCP and like all elections, the desired party won. And the Supreme Court did not want to get involved.

    All the evidence may now be destroyed and nothing more will be said. Or else. Total censorship has started. Free speech will not be tolerated. In Washington, the city on the hill will be lit again in bright lights and the great feasting will begin. Because no one listened to these ‘rioters’.

    The swamp and friends have restored their power after four horror years and with the help of a little CCP virus which was never manufactured in Wuhan by the military.

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    JohnM

    Facebook and Twitter are so stupid that they wouldn’t recognise a false claim about the 2020 election if it has a big flashing light saying “false claim”.

    In many cases one person says one thing and the defendant says another. There’s been no court case to determine the truth and yet Facebook and Twitter act like teenagers and think they know the truth.

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    David Maddison

    I’ve been on the Internet since 1990 or 91 when it was all ASCII character based and run on terminals or terminal emulators.

    I thought it was the greatest thing that could ever happen to protect and enhance democracy and free speech.

    I thought it was uncensorable. Since the Internet, originally conceived as a US military system, was designed to route around damage such as in a nuclear war, I thought censorship would also be interpreted as damage and alternates to the censored area would always be found by either network routing or users.

    Sadly, I was wrong.

    No one ever thought that this network would be used by the evil socialist forces who hate freedom and democracy to use it to bring down the greatest president of the greatest country that ever existed.

    Rather than protecting freedom and democracy, it has been used to destroy it in the very country that invented it.

    It seems the Left and their censorious views now control almost all communication channels such as commercial radio, TV, print media, online media, social(ist) media, even out Apple and Android (Google) phones where they can decide what Apps we run and delete free dpeech ones such as Parler.

    The world has descended into a very evil and dark place governed and controlled by some very evil people.

    This is atleast as bad or worse than anything George Orwell envisaged in the dystopian society he depicted in “Nineteen Eighty Four”‘.

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      el gordo

      ‘ … evil socialist forces who hate freedom and democracy to use it to bring down the greatest president of the greatest country that ever existed.’

      Strongly disagree on all points and would be happy to debate.

      On the question of whether China interfered in US politics is a moot point, but it seems unlikely. We have to go beyond Orwell to visualise what is about to happen.

      https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/01/04/pentagon-has-6-months-disclose-what-it-knows-about-ufos.html

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        Serp

        What a miserable cherry to pick; shouldn’t you have attacked at the root proposition “protect and enhance democracy and free speech” turning out to have been an illusion?

        As to cryptically finishing off with the ufo red herring is that intended to belittle the concerns you “would be happy to debate” about the conduct of the election?

        Seriously though el gordo do you see us emerging from this decade better off than we enter it? Stupid question; of course our Liebniz does.

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      Dave in the States

      What has happened since the 90’s is that people started to communicate publicly on social media instead of privately via email or over the phone. This habit gives the platform holders control of the popular narrative, that they lost with the fall of the legacy media and the initial advent of the internet.

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        Ted O'Brien.

        I spent the first 45 years of my life in the confident expectation that modern communications, from TV to the jumbo jet, would save us from future wars,

        Then I realised people never change.

        It took me back to year 8 at school translating Cicero and Julius Caesar. Politics hadn’t changed much in 2,000 years.

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      joseph

      David, it’s pretty much all revealed in a couple of books by Patrick M. Wood. “Technocracy Rising” and “Technocracy, The Hard Road to World Order”.

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    Karabar

    Has it occurred to anyone else that Trump’s 75 million votes is most likely an understatement?
    Consider: there can be no doubt that thousands of Trump votes were switched to Biden. The latest from Maria Zack at Nations in Action includes the “Italygate” sworn affidavit.
    Then how many million of Biden’s alleged 80 million votes are in reality Trump votes? And how many are fictitious, or garnered i n teh cemetaries?

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    OldOzzie

    Pelosi Tried to Foment a Military Coup Against Trump

    They’ve spent four years fomenting an effort to take Trump out. They are everything they accuse Trump of being. They failed to take him out before. But even with just 11 days left before inauguration, they’re still trying.

    The New York Times ran a story today about the actions of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi behind the scenes against the president. Talk about “insurrection,” she was essentially fomenting a coup, and fomenting the military against the president, trying to remove him from the chain of command.

    A coup. She’s encouraging that and a violation of the Constitution to consolidate her own effort against the president. This is an abuse of her own power to undermine her political opponent and a violation of the separation of powers. She has no right to interfere in the military chain of command. Yet, guarantee it, there will be no action taken against her and it will all be excused.

    Somehow the president is supposedly responsible for what people do at a protest, but Pelosi isn’t responsible for her own actions? But you know that’s how the left will spin it. No, she doesn’t have the right to suggest such things.

    Former CIA officer and Democrat:

    Pelosi is suggesting a military coup, the very definition of sedition.

    This is deadly serious.

    She should be removed from the House, and every conservative should be screaming for it.

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      Serp

      Pelosi is in terror, maybe near seizure, that William Astley’s milt is coming for her and that she’ll have to flee the country and abandon her precious walled estate and live out her days with reanimated Maurice and mummified Joe in the environs of Peking.

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    David Wojick

    Trump will leave the Whitehouse on time but will not consent that Biden won because he does not believe it. I think this keeps the lawsuits alive as well. When you are suing someone for harming you, you do not say they did not do it.

    This may reflect the fact that Trump is a businessman, not a politician. In big business you sue and are sued all the time. Trump knows how to do it.

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      David Wojick

      Sorry that is concede, not consent, although they mean the same in this instance.

      I wonder if Trump will follow Teddy Roosevelt and form a new political party? How about the “Great American Party”? Members can say they are Great Americans.

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        David Maddison

        Trump will not give up. He accepts that the election was fraudulent and he has exhausted all legal means to overturn the fraudulent result. He will leave the WH on time but will still want the fraud to be prosecuted.

        If Biden is appointed President, as appears 99.95% likely, even if the SCOTUS could finally be convinced that fraud took place and Trump is the rightful President, there is no way they’ll remove a sitting President. There is case law for this. There have been Congressmen and other officials appointed when various courts accepted and acknowledged the fraud but said it would be too disruptive to remove them. You can’t undo what’s been done and laws that may have been passed by an illegally elected President or Congressman.

        I think the Republicans are too infested with traitors to be recoverable. Trump needs to start a new party. I like your suggestion of a name, “Great American Party”. You should trademark that name and reserve it for Trump so no one else can take it (not sure exactly the process for that in the US).

        Some would say by starting a new party you would split the conservative vote but I think if Trump started it, 90% of Republicans would go with him. The remaining 10% of traitors could join the ‘RATS.

        Another problem is that the ‘RATS are going to embed fraudulent procedures into future elections and they know courts will allow it to happen. It will be very difficult for anyone but the ‘RATS to win future elections. I’m not sure what can be done about that.

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        David Maddison

        Possible slogan “I’m a Great American and I’m helping Make America Great Again, Again”.

        MAGAA

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    William Astley

    This is my reading of the tea leaves. There is now a 10-foot-high barricade, fence and 1000 US National guards from different states guarding Congress.

    This Wednesday, Jan 13th the US Milt is going to present unequivocal hard evidence that covid has designed and released by the Chinese for tactical and commercial reasons.

    China was a plan which they are implementing, to control and dominate all industries and all governments of the world. And to kill people using designer viruses for profit and tactical reasons. The US Milt will present evidence that there has been a second release of designed version of covid.

    The same presentation will provide an overview of treasonous activity in the CIA with direct interference, in the US 2020 election. The US Milt is going to charge those involved in the CIA and will get to the bottom of the CIA/FBI 2020 US election plots and other plots.

    The US Milt’s investigation in the CIA plot has found unequivocal evidence of felony 2020 US election interference by almost all Democrats and many Republicans. This information is going to be forwarded to the corrupt DOJ where it will sit for a few years. The DOJ will be cleaned up gradually by the WH and Trump. Trump will be working with the new congressional replacement team. Trump has been hired by the team to do a specific job, with tighter control and a specific role (like an actor who cares about the people) to calm and gain the respect of US and Chinese citizens and from other countries. No politics, careful, control language when talking about the China issues, and so on. No more bragging about Trump. Most important job in the world.

    The Congress building will be closed. Due to massive 2020 US election felony activity, the US is spending itself to death, the Chinese have attacked, Congress is stinky corrupt and surrounded by permanent large offices of stinking special interest groups. Washington is the capital of the Special Interest groups. The Congress replacement will be located in Arizona, at the 305 Military Intelligence Battalion.

    The congress replacement system will be staffed by 70 Military officers who have been screened for Military security at a time of war and have been screened for any special interest connection (family, friends, relatives, and so on).Congressional spending and policy decisions will be made by a new non-political, transparent, unbiased system that will make decisions based on unbiased analysis.

    The Congressional replacement system will be support by the first true artificial intelligence in the world. The AI designed the non-violent plan which is the US Milt’s response to the Chinese attack and the collapse/Democratic rogue issue of congress

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      el gordo

      Your tea leaves are lying.

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        William Astley

        What do you disagree with? Pick anyone issue and provide any evidence to support your assertion.

        The fact that Washington is the World Capital of the Special Interest groups. All of the NGOs and all of the US companies, Medical Industry, and so on. Everyone of which have very Large staffs in Washington and very large big budgets. What is all of the special interest lobbying money used for? Besides lots of meetings and swamp talk. Washington is pathetical corrupt and wasteful. The party system and voting has designed to hide the corruption from the people.

        If both party are corrupt or if one party takes over the CIA/FBI… The US system can start to attack individuals (like Trump), or whistleblowers. Control the internet.

        China controls the key NGOs, the special interest groups, the WHO, the Democratic Party of America, and so on.

        The Congress replacement will be located in Arizona, at the 305 Military Intelligence Battalion military base that has fences and armed military personnel to defend it. The Arizona military base will now have additional advance security and supplement security.

        The average salary of the 70 US military men and woman (average age under 40, oldest 47) is $60,000. These people will be determining the US tax and policy decisions, not 500 elite politicians and countless special interest groups.

        The new system will be transparent and simple to explain. US legislation will be concise, logical, and efficient. Many of the US officers have young families. All of those selected have college degrees and experience working with analytical decision making.

        The US states are going to immediately support the new congressional replacement system. Because of ‘Politics’, it is a fact, that the Washington swamp, is absolutely incapable of cutting pathetical ineffective past Federal programs. The US states and the US have a very serious spending problem.

        The new congress replacement team is going to immediately address the worst past legislation which forces states to spend money, year after, after year, and so on…… on purposeless complex Federal programs all of which also created purposeless Washington jobs (Washington was swamp and was a scam)… rather than simple payments with no strings on the highest priority problems/issues.

        The US people are going to support the new system because money will no longer be wasted on any special interest group or wasteful government ‘program’. US taxpayer money will be treated with respect by the new system, as a valuable resource that will not be wasted.

        The 500 or so elite politicians in Congress have lost their jobs because the swamp cannot compete with a unbiased, analytical based system that is designed to always find the optimum solutions which humans/states will then select, that is supported by the world’s first artificial intelligence.

        There will be no protests bring back the Washington swamp. The optics does not work.

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          el gordo

          ‘Pick anyone issue and provide any evidence to support your assertion.’

          No thanks, if you want to write science fiction and political science I strongly suggest you focus on the Intelligence Authorisation Act – Advanced Aerial Threats.

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    Murray Shaw

    Re the social media companies deleting and banning Trump, are his tweets and Facebook posts not part of the Presidential record, and how does deleting the Presidential record stand with the law of the land.

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      David Maddison

      I replied to you but it came out at #44.

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      David Maddison

      Apart from that, it is erasing a rewriting history. These Tweets are source documents for the history of the United States.

      Having said that, a private individual archived the Tweets but not the responses. I think the responses are important for future historians to understand how people reacted to President Trump’s missives.

      As usual, the socialists have a total disregard for history. That’s why the National Socialists and International Socialists love burning books. This is the 21st century equivalent of book burning.

      And that’s one of the many reasons I detest the Left. And why, absolutely, the Left cannot and should never be trusted.

      https://www.thetrumparchive.com/

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        Great Aunt Janet

        Many of the responses I saw when I read President Trump’s twitter feed were disgusting trolls, it was a most uncivilised thing to experience. After a short while I kept to the tweets only (which often made me laugh aloud, he is so droll) and kept my day more pleasant.

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    Captain Katzenjammer

    I posted this under another article. It’s approrite here.

    What did it feel like, living under repressive authoritarian regime in Prague or Budapest, in the second generation when half the country knew it was all lies while the other half believed their indoctrination. If you don’t speak out too loud to strangers, don’t rock the boat, listen to the accepted news so you can repeat it on call when questioned, then you’re allowed to go about your ordinary daily life. How did it feel. Now I know.

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    Kim

    Conservatives have to put their money and their support where their mouths are. ie “not feed the beast” – not support the MSM, Hollywood, big tech firms etc and conversely support small business and Conservative firms. Disconnect generally from the left. Form two societies. Back in the 19th. century society was very much divided up on a political and philosophical level. The big project during the 20th century was to create one nations. That has been very much hijacked by the left. It is a failed project and must be viewed as such. The Trump era has allowed everything to be brought to the surface, it has speeded up what has been going on, and the right have consolidated and strengthened. War is not the answer. Separate societies is. And there are many ways around all the blocks – technological and otherwise. The right must exist and survive separate from and independent of the left.

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      John R Smith

      Kim, I think they have ‘cleansing’ in mind.
      They call it ‘restorative justice’.
      They didn’t stop with Confederate statues.
      The tech purge is 2nd Reformation (your reference) book burning.
      Those that burn books, eventually burn b_dies.
      Leaving us alone is not atonement for the sins of history.
      When they come what should our answer be?

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        Kim

        The iconoclasm was whitewashing history.

        The 1st Reformation was the invention of the printing press. The 2nd Reformation is the invention of the Internet. The MSM are the scriptorium and are battling to survive. They won’t. But it will be a hard battle in cyberspace.

        Cleansing is what the Nazis did with their Critical Race Theory with their killing of 6M Jews. They were cleansing the Aryan blood of any Jewishness.

        We need to be separate. We need to be together and hunkered down. We have a lot of talent. We need to use that talent. And we need to be sensible.

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    WokeBuster

    If you think enlightened thinkers such as ourselves are the only target of the purge, think again. They are now coming for some Lefties as well. Just today Twitter suspended a popular leftist podcast called Red Scare. Makes no sense. After all, Red Scare is decidedly anti-capitalist. Hang on, the tech oligarch’s form of capitalism is of the worst kind – extreme exploitive global capitalism. Fascist global corporativism is the preferred model of the elites and that’s becoming clearer everyday.

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      Kim

      If history is any guide they will have nights of the long knives. Wokism is ethno fascist communism. Critical Race Theory is what the Nazis used to kill 6M Jews.

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        Kim

        PS: I think that the fascist side will be the dominant side. They will knock out the communist base in the purge – it will be a case of “come on board or be purged out”. They will exert very strong control. The communists won’t know what hit them. They will have nowhere to turn. The Conservatives will be off separately but the communists will be cast out.

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    Matty

    We know by way of demonstration that the election + runoffs were totally hackable. That itself would have been a major national security scandal in a normal environment but this isn’t normal. Even here in Australia there are commentators I would have relied on to call a spade a spade have finally bowed to the weight of leftist condemnation and beration. Thought fashion is our new ruler….not any constitution or law(see Scotus-FBI). I am a Christian who has watched other Christians high five over the election of the party of full term abortion – and ostensibly led by a Catholic. You wonder how, but thought fashion now rules and those fads could now take us anywhere. Terrified to read that we all use Apple or Android and that this chip was on the table at one point. Get ready for that. That’s my factual offering finished.

    Separately, as a Christian I pray and sometimes things are revealed that I wouldn’t normally pitch into a forum like this. Few weeks ago I saw that there had been massive and decisive destruction of evidence. That may be criminal but you can’t charge fraud with no evidence. But I was also shown there was another ingredient to this whole morass that had not yet made an appearance. Paedophilia, and I mean underage girls. She was 11-12, very pretty, frightened and trying to smile, heavily made up. I didn’t ask to see it. I think it’s central to the whole situation.

    And you will find Christians are central to the overall pushback because the bible talks about mass delusion and an oppressive one world system as we reach the end of this age. I think we forget that Trump’s biggest sins in progressive land has been climate scepticism and Paris abstinence. We are dealing with the climate movement here: a mind bending conjoining of science and re-badged paganism.

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    OldOzzie

    It’s Saturday: Mitch McConnell STILL must go…

    Mitch McConnell must go as Republican Leader in the US Senate.

    I wrote the exact same thing in a diary yesterday. I do so again today. The urgency to remove the tired, old, ineffectual, moss-covered hide-bound Republican Leadership has never been more accute.

    These people —people like Mitch McConnell— have wasted the 11,284 days since the end of the Reagan Presidency trying to make Republicanism kinder and gentler— when all THAT’S done is embolden the enemies of Americanism to the point that Mordor’s Black Gate has opened, and the Orcs of progressivism have catastrophically flooded the land with their toxin. The Visigoths are over The Wall.

    Today we wake up in land that couldn’t be envisioned thirty days ago, let alone thirty years ago: Business owners are thrown in jail for wanting to transact legal business, and child murderers are set free so they don’t catch a virus that’s 99% survivable. A “free” people have been so terrified into submission they cannot breathe free air without a Chinese-made face diaper plastered on their saddened, angry countenance. If they have the temerity to attempt to do so, anyway, their neighbors and acquaintances rat them out in a manner in which the KGB would be proud.

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      OldOzzie

      In the Meantime – Loser Mitch McConnell Circulates Impeachment Procedures, Which Wouldn’t Begin Until Trump’s Term Ends

      Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) circulated procedures this week for another impeachment trial against President Trump, but, per the timeline, proceedings would not occur until after Trump is already out of office.

      In effect, that makes the matter of an impeachment trial an issue that will need to be taken up by Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), the incoming majority leader, in the first days of the Biden presidency — a move that would almost certainly distract from the president-elect’s immediate agenda to battle the coronavirus pandemic and ensure that his Cabinet nominees get confirmed.

      Then, on either January 19 or 20, the House managers would “exhibit the articles,” and the Senate would “proceed to consideration of the impeachment articles at 1 p.m., and officially begin the trial” on either January 20 or 21. Trump will already be out of office in either scenario.

      “Senate trial would therefore begin after President Trump’s term has expired — either one hour after its expiration on January 20, or twenty-five hours after its expiration on January 21,” the memo stated.

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        RossP

        If Trump is out of office on Jan 21, isn’t he then a private citizen at that time ? Can they impeach a private citizen ?

        BTW. Someone has obviously got McConnell in a vice and is squeezing him really hard.

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          Kalm Keith

          Is he still married?

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            Lawrie

            To the chick from the CCP whose daddy owns lots of ships and whose sister is a big wheel in the Bank of China. Old Mitch is probably a traitor.

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          Hanrahan

          My reading is that they can’t impeach after the 20th but proceedings can continue. The reason they would choose this course is in the hope of having him banned from office permanently. They are still scared of him.

          If he were to be found guilty of an offence carrying a penalty of over 6 months jail he would be banned anyway I believe. So much for their threats that he would be led of the WH in chains.

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            RossP

            I very much doubt Trump would want to stand again in 2024. But I do think he would put a huge amount of effort into supporting a candidate of his choice or the one he favours. So if the impeachment circus is to stop him standing again, it is a waste of time.
            There is than one way for MAGA to succeed.

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    OldOzzie

    Rage at Capitol assault makes excuses for summer riots all the more disgraceful

    Wednesday’s mob assault on Capitol Hill was shocking and brazen: Hundreds of MAGA-hat-wearing rioters broke into the seat of American democracy. They stormed the halls, looting property and assaulting law enforcers, all in service of an absurd political demand: reversing the outcome of an election.

    Now where had I witnessed such scenes before? The answer: in blue-governed cities in my native Pacific Northwest throughout last summer and into the fall and winter.

    The right-wing political violence was met with universal rebuke from politicians of both parties and the media. But many of those who are loudest in condemning the Capitol Hill riot went radio-silent when rioters destroyed and looted in the name of Black Lives Matter.

    Last May, thousands of rioters in Minneapolis brought the city to its knees after the police-involved death of George Floyd. Over three days, rioters burned down a police station, looted hundreds of businesses and burned entire neighborhoods to the ground. Mass street violence also broke out in Washington, DC, New York City, Los Angeles, Seattle and dozens of other cities; at least two dozen died in the course of the riots.

    Vice President-elect Kamala Harris encouraged her millions of Twitter followers to donate to a Minnesota crowd-funding effort that paid bail for accused rioters. So, too, did more than a dozen Joe Biden campaign staffers. The Minnesota Freedom Fund raked in more than $35 million in donations with their help.

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    David Maddison

    Apart from that, it is erasing a rewriting history. These Tweets are source documents for the history of the United States.

    Having said that, a private individual archived the Tweets but not the responses. I think the responses are important for future historians to understand how people reacted to President Trump’s missives.

    As usual, the socialists have a total disregard for history. That’s why the National Socialists and International Socialists love burning books. This is the 21st century equivalent of book burning.

    And that’s one of the many reasons I detest the Left. And why, absolutely, the Left cannot and should never be trusted.

    https://www.thetrumparchive.com/

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      David Maddison

      That was meant to be a reply to #37.

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      el gordo

      ‘This is the 21st century equivalent of book burning.’

      Very astute.

      ‘ … the Left cannot and should never be trusted.’

      Hmmm …. democratic socialism is here to stay, because in democracies it acts as a buffer to prevent popular uprisings. In this respect Donald upset the applecart, his desire to drain the oligarchic swamp was bound to get a kick back from both sides of politics.

      There is little doubt that the left has captured the twittersphere, with the MSM going the same way, but its a bit of a stretch to say they are socialists.

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        WokeBuster

        >There is little doubt that the left has captured the twittersphere, with the MSM going the same way, but its a bit of a stretch to say they are socialists.

        The oligarchs, particularly the tech oligarchs are definitely not socialists (socialism for thee but not for me) but they have made a business decision to tap into wokeness because it supports, nourishes and protects their business interests and allows them to get away with things other companies couldn’t.

        I think professor Stephan Hicks expressed it best at a lecture last year when describing “strange bedfellows”. He gave an historical example of “strange bedfellows” during the 1920s Prohibition era where you have religious groups such as Baptists calling for Prohibition and receiving financial support from an unexpected ally from the other end of the moral compass: the Mafia. For obvious reasons, the Mafia loved Prohibition. It gave them a complete monopoly over alcohol and therefore $$$$$. Fundamentally it’s the same enabling business model adopted by the tech oligarchs. They want a monopoly and they exploit the moral credential of wokeness to cover the obscene profits they make, offshoring of jobs, use of child labour, tax dodging etc. Take Apple for example, in 2020, Apple reported a net income of over 57 billion U.S. dollars with employees of 137,000. Ford employs almost 190,000 and barely makes $2 billion per year. There is no way a company like Apple would support someone like Donald Trump who wants to bring back jobs to the US and therefore cut into Apple’s profits.

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    eliza

    Newsmax has been taken off you tube get ready to be banned I warned!! nobody listened

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    David Maddison

    Isn’t it amazing that in the US Twitter and the other social(ist) media can refuse to serve the President of the United States, the most powerful man in the world, until Biden/Harris deliberately weakens the US and allow China to assert dominance? In contrast, a baker with strong religious convictions against homosexuality is not allowed to refuse service for a “wedding” cake to a couple of such a nature.

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      el gordo

      ‘ … until Biden/Harris deliberately weakens the US and allow China to assert dominance?’

      No they won’t, Biden wants to strengthen the fledgling democracies and older ones under stress. This is a bulwark against totalitarianism, so Taiwan is safe.

      The only way to counter Beijing’s expansion, is for the US to build their own belt and road.

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    David Maddison

    Assuming America ever has elections again, and by some miracle Leftist fraud can be curtailed, Trump could run in 2024. He would be aged 78-82 through the term. Older than desirable but he is physically and mentally strong and God willing, will stay that way.

    I wonder who he could pick as VP?

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    David Maddison

    You can watch it straight from their website at https://www.newsmaxtv.com/ .

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    David Maddison

    The Barris Presidency is essentially a continuation of where Obama finished but with some of Obama’s damage repaired by President Trump.

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    David Maddison

    The DemocRATS say they are going to tear down the border wall that Trump built.

    It defies belief that they would do that.

    The only reason is to facilitate continued invasion of illegals (and future DemocRAT voters) into the US.

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      el gordo

      The wall was only symbolic, electronic surveillance and drones are just as effective.

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        Hanrahan

        Surveillance worked well for Epstein. You can’t switch off a wall.

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          el gordo

          Still, it was never going to happen. Obviously land mines and barbed wire are also unacceptable, so the only serious option is more sophisticated surveillance and crack troops to hunt them down. Unarmed of course, we wouldn’t want an international incident.

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            David Maddison

            Or the wall could be left standing and not torn down. What’s wrong with that? Why is it necessary to tear down the wall?

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              el gordo

              The hard left want to remove any symbols of this bygone era. Tokenism of this kind won’t impress moderate Democrats, so the idea will go into the bottom draw and the wall remain a symbol.

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    RossP

    Sorry David you have to be dreaming if you think the changes made by Trump will stay in place. Also Obama is one of Biden’s the puppet masters. He will have much more power than Biden/Harris.

    Sundance at The Conservative Treehouse refers to Biden as “Obama’s avatar”. I think he is right.

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      el gordo

      Obama won’t have more power, but his guiding hand is always appreciated.

      ‘President-elect Joe Biden is tapping more longtime aides and Obama veterans to fill out his White House senior staff, announcing six new hires on Tuesday who all spent time in the previous Democratic administration.’ (Politico)

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        James Murphy

        The war-pigs will be back in the whitehouse. I wonder how long before Biden is told he needs to invade somewhere?

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          el gordo

          Biden is quite able to make up his own mind on foreign policy. One thing is certain, he won’t be bombing an Iranian nuclear power plant.

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      James Murphy

      maybe it’s just me, but I get a Captcha box (that never actually appears) and a “Please complete the security check to access http://www.thegatewaypundit.com” from Cloudflare when I click on this link.

      Would not be surprised if this is another “wrongthink” site to disappear soon… or, more likely, it’s just my computer…

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    PeterS

    I hope the Democrats and some Republicans do go ahead and try to impeach Trump with the express goal physically to remove him from office in the next few day or so. It should give him the excuse to call upon the Insurrection Act and have them arrested on charges of treason. Go ahead, make my day!

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      el gordo

      My dog!

      That would prove only that the US is a failed state. Trust me, there are wiser heads in control to avoid that consequence.

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        William Astley

        The Left wing is so clueless. The US has been attacked by the Chinese and the Dems are a rogue party that did a swan dive and then mooned the public.

        By suddenly shutting down any talk about 2020 US election corruption or Dem corruption on the internet the Dems have suddenly crossed more red lines from both the public’s standpoint (see above) and from the US Military’s standpoint.

        The US Military must follow rules and must be truthful in all operations. What is the US Military’s reaction to the in your face 2020 US election felony activity? Trick question, the US Milt found easy, clear to understand, evidence of Dem 2020 US election felony to end congress painless without drama, while investigating the CIA felony interference into the 2020 US election.

        So imagine the nice clean young military officers in uniform, working in a new plain four store building, that looks just like the other buildings at the Military base…

        …. to determine tax rates, policy decisions, find a way to pay for medical care for uninsured people, find ways to reduce health cost like the Vit D deficiency, and so on…. for all Americans. Who would will the Americans trust to make their country’s important decisions? The old swamp of millionaires and billionaire elites? Who are controlled by Washington lobby groups?

        or the new group that is supported by the first artificial intelligence on the planet.

        So when the US Military present the evidence and the logical plan to replace the stinking corrupt, Washington Swamp….. Suddenly their will be no more swamp.

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          el gordo

          Wow!

          In reality there will be a quiet transition of power and the world will breathe a sigh of relief.

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            FarmerDoug2

            Can’t see it. 70 million suspect they have been robbed. They are going to wont something. At least an honest audit.
            Surely powers can come up with something less than marital law.

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              el gordo

              To be fair only half of the Republicans think the election was dodgy, but from where I’m sitting Biden has a mandate to rule.

              ‘Altogether, 73% of those polled agreed that Biden won the election while 5% thought Trump won. But when asked specifically whether Biden had “rightfully won,” Republicans showed they were suspicious about how Biden’s victory was obtained.

              ‘Fifty-two percent of Republicans said that Trump “rightfully won,” while only 29% said that Biden had rightfully won.’ (Reuter)

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          Lucky

          Big government does not work even if run by so-called technicians.
          Keynes (!) said- these practical people, they are followers of some long forgotten theorist.

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      Kim

      backstory? – Pelosi Moves to Block Trump’s Access to Nuclear Codes – Who does Pelosi want to wage nuclear war on? Russia? Is that the reason why she wants control of the nuclear codes? – very concerning!

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        markx

        Pelosi Moves to Block Trump’s Access to Nuclear Codes

        It seems perfectly obvious that the aim is to prevent a possible war, not wage one.

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    10th Man

    Epoch Times have dropped Joshua Philip’s documentary on the 2020 Election – Who’s stealing America?
    Are the 100,000 people who have seen it supposed to just forget?

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    Another Ian

    “Use Parler or Gab instead of Twitter or Facebook. Gab even has Gab TV as an alternative to Youtube. or use Rumble or Bitchute.

    Also, use Ruqqus instead of Reddit.

    If you want to load an app onto your phone that has been banned from the App Store or Play Store, then do this:

    How to Get Apps That Are Not in the App Store
    https://www.lifewire.com/get-apps-not-in-app-store-1999916

    How to Sideload Apps on Android
    https://www.howtogeek.com/313433/how-to-sideload-apps-on-android/

    The complete list of alternatives to all Google products
    https://www.techspot.com/news/80729-complete-list-alternatives-all-google-products.html

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/01/09/time-to-remove-whatsapp/#comment-1395607

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    OldOzzie

    Interesting

    Firefoxhttps://rsbnetwork.com/ – Error 522 Ray ID: 60f2d03b48a816b5 • 2021-01-10 02:02:01 UTC
    Connection timed out –

    What happened?

    The initial connection between Cloudflare’s network and the origin web server timed out. As a result, the web page can not be displayed.

    Safarihttps://rsbnetwork.com/ – Error 525 Ray ID: 60f2d2d8eb1016c9 • 2021-01-10 02:03:48 UTC
    SSL handshake failed

    What happened?

    Cloudflare is unable to establish an SSL connection to the origin server.

    Chrome using DuckDuckDohttps://rsbnetwork.com/ – Error 522 Ray ID: 60f2d5c80b9b16b1 • 2021-01-10 02:05:48 UTC
    Connection timed out

    What happened?
    The initial connection between Cloudflare’s network and the origin web server timed out. As a result, the web page can not be displayed.

    https://www.newsmax.com/ at the moment still displays

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    OldOzzie

    DEMOCRACY DIED IN DARKNESS – THANKS JEFF AND PALS
    By Harry Richardson -January 10, 2021

    250 years, give or take. Not a bad run really. I think the Roman Empire lasted about the same before it descended into tyranny.

    I’ve lived through the last, and probably most pleasant phase and I’m grateful for that. With any luck, it will last a bit longer. We will know within the next week or so.

    Already the signs are not good. Having decided that Trump is a spent force, the knives are out. First to be cut, are President Trump’s Facebook and Twitter accounts.

    Those are the social media accounts of the President of the United States of America. Who do these people think that they are?

    Not content with that, they are now going after Parler, the free speech alternative to Twitter, which isn’t censored by the Anti-Defamation League (Google them, they run censorship for Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter etc.).

    Google has removed them from the Google Play store and Apple looks set to follow.

    “If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.”

    So said George Washington, and so say I.

    Treat anyone who wants to remove your right to free speech as the worst kind of tyrant, and then pray that you’re wrong.

    These tech oligarchs have amassed terrifying power and show little to no restraint in how they use it.

    The hatred they show towards Trump is next level. Admittedly, he derailed the gravy train as we explained previously but that can’t be the whole story.

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      Henning Nielsen

      Democracy will not die in America. I don’t care if Biden becomes president; the Democrats have unleashed a perfect storm of aggressive repression that will be their undoing. It may turn ugly, it may take time, but the scary picture we are watching now is really an illusion. The USA does not reside in NYC or LA, it lives in the 3000+ counties across this great nation, of which the vast majority voted for Trump. Biden, Harris, Pelosi et al simply have not the faintest idea of how to ride the tiger they have let out of the zoo. Radical leftist regimes end up tearing themselves apart and degenerate into dictatorship. This will not -I repeat not- happen in USA. Americans are not North Koreans, they will rise against tyranny, and Democrat voters will soon enough see that their Trump-hatred has blinded them to the dangers of unrestrained radicalism. Like newborn freedom-loving puppies, their eyes will open.

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        Great Aunt Janet

        I hope you are right Henning, but we are in the middle of repressive lockdowns, controlled media, and the march through far more than just the institutions of the activists of the left (I’m thinking most big corporations, HR departments especially) means that ordinary people won’t know illusion from reality. Even if they do, and they speak up – one or more of those big corporations like the banks or the airlines can de-person them.

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    OldOzzie

    Pompeo Voids Restrictions on Diplomatic Contacts With Taiwan

    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced Saturday that the State Department is voiding longstanding restrictions on how U.S. diplomats and others have contact with their counterparts in Taiwan, another move that is expected to upset China as the Trump administration winds to an end.

    The Trump administration has sought to strengthen bilateral relations with Taiwan. It announced Thursday that U.N Ambassador Kelly Craft would go to Taiwan, a move that sparked sharp criticism from Beijing and a warning that the U.S. would pay a heavy price. In August, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar became the first Cabinet member to visit Taiwan since 2014.

    Pompeo said that the State Department has created complex restrictions when it comes to contacts between the two parties. He said those actions were taken to appease the Communist regime in Beijing.

    “No more,” Pompeo declared in a statement. “Today I am announcing that I am lifting all of these self-imposed restrictions.”

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      Henning Nielsen

      Right, and this does not look like the last gasp of an outgoing administration to me. I mean, what would stop a Biden adm from reversing this policy? Rather, IMO, i looks like a warning shot across the bows of Chinese aggression; “Don’t think you can use this situation to do something nasty against Taiwan!”

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      Kim

      Taiwan has a series of islands just off the coast of China. When China invades them what will the Biden-Harris administration do? That will be the most crucial and most critical decision that they will make. My prediction is at that point you will see the United States made a client state, a subsidiary of China, courtesy of the Biden-Harris administration. Cuckholded by China.

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    Another Ian

    From https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/01/08/w-o-o-d-swamp-won-8-jan-2021/#comment-137404

    ““Why have these fools and bandits, who desire power, gone to such lengths to convince the citizens that voting does not matter?
    Why would they challenge 75 million well armed citizens, with “We stole it and you can’t do anything about it”
    “Silence Scum”.
    For any leadership who gave a care for the “consent of the governed” would logically be falling over themselves to demonstrate that the election was above board.
    This has not happened,in any of the contested areas.”

    The warnings from history to those in rapture at this is that it will not stop at votes being stolen and your turn for multiple reamings is on the way. So expect no sympathy what-so-ever when that happens.

    (IMO) Gives added impetus to John Prine’s song “Common Sense” being the outstanding candidate for the theme song of the 21st century –

    “It don’t make no sense that common sense don’t make no sense no more”

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      Another Ian

      From an email just in

      “Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic. Someone over there has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague newspaper.

      __________________________________________________________

      “The danger to America is not Joseph Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.

      It will be far easier to limit, and undo the follies of a Biden presidency, than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment, to a depraved electorate, willing to have such a man for their president.

      The problem is much deeper, and far more serious, than Mr. Biden, who is a mere symptom of what ails America.

      Blaming the prince of the fools, should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools, that made him their prince.

      The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their president.”

      Might be from

      “The Wisdom of Václav Klaus”

      http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/01/09/the-wisdom-of-vaclav-klaus/

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    lee jeffrey

    I would urge you all to watch this from Lt. Gen. Tom McInerney… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rrFSZQK0_0&feature=emb_logo

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      markx

      Clear evidence? Ha! As clear as mud.

      Who is it? Any ID?
      You’re gonna need a sworn affidavit to make that one stick! 🙂

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    markx

    Mr Trump has also been condemned for having not having addressed the death of Officer Brian Sicknick.

    This comes as Mr Sicknick’s father confirmed to Reuters that the family did receive a call from Vice President Mike Pence and House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

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    Kim

    Highlights from O’Reilly’s ‘No Spin News’ – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzm4Fq3NlnU .

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    RossP

    How much more corrupt can you get, when you have the FBI breaking the law? All ballots are meant to be kept for 22 months by law.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/breaking-fbi-claims-jurisdiction-yesterday-took-control-shredded-ballots-analyzed-georgia-sends-back-shredder/

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    Orson

    IS THIS BREAKING NEWS? I haven’t looked enough to evaluate this claim of mind blowing findings PROVING digital fraud changed the US elections. Perhaps it could be…? Or maybe it is in the “That ship has sailed…” news department: Sydney Powell can claim vindication.

    The former head of IT at Leonardo, Spa, Arturo Della — the world’s eight largest defense contractor — is being prosecuted by investigators in Naples, Italy, for manipulating technology and installing computer viruses.

    Arturo Della has admitted to executing a plot to switch votes from Trump to Biden. He used a Leonardo satellite using the Scytl servers in Frankfurt, Germany linked to the US, directly controlling vote tallying.

    The admission comes in an affidavit (or appostile). He requests physical protection for himself and his family before

    “This is not the smoking gun, this is the hand attached to the smoking gun,” says Maria Zack, with the Government Accountability Institute.

    Written post with press releases
    https://conservativefiringline.com/breaking-arturo-delia-caught-head-of-italian-aerospace-companys-it-department-used-military-grade-cyber-warfare-to-switch-votes-for-trump-to-biden/

    Video interviewing Maria Zack
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkvGjWs-M04
    Congressional leaders are being informed and the need for state legislatures to reconvene and reverse their certified election results, after hearing the evidence of PROVEN election fraud.
    Maria adds that a total of 17 states vote results have been involved in the vote switching fraud scheme.

    Is Maria Bartaromo going to have on Sydney Powell or Maria Zack on her excellent Sunday Morning Futures program?

    According to Zack, WH Chief of Staff Mark Meadows has been informed of these legal developments.

    She warns that if State Legislatures do not reconvene this coming week, they will be complicit with this crime.

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      markx

      Ya gotta be kidding me.
      Gone beyond found servers now, got satellites involved.

      He used a Leonardo satellite using the Scytl servers in Frankfurt, Germany linked to the US, directly controlling vote tallying.

      I’d wager that if you search the internet hard enough you’ll find there’s submarines, trained dolphins, and a naked mole rat involved too.

      But really, fiction should be at least partly believable.

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    markx

    Geez, it appears ANTIFA even infiltrated The Republican Association of Attorneys General (RAGA), and took over their finances and communications! :

    The Republican Association of Attorneys General (RAGA)—the chief Republican law enforcement officers for their states—used its dark money group to help organize the mob.
    The Rule of Law Defense Fund (RLDF), a “nonprofit” set up by the RAGA, appears in a list of groups “Participating in the March to Save America” along with Stop the Steal, Turning Point Action, Tea Party Patriots, and others.

    The RLDF sent out a robocall to activists saying: “The march to save America is tomorrow in Washington D.C. at the Ellipse in President’s Park between E St. and Constitution Avenue on the south side of the White House, with doors opening at 7:00 a.m.” So they’re making sure everyone knows where to go. It gets worse. “At 1:00 p.m., we will march to the Capitol building and call on congress to stop the steal. We are hoping patriots like you will join us to continue to fight to protect the integrity of our elections.” The call gives a web address, MarchtoSaveAmerica.com, and concludes: “This call is paid for and authorized by the Rule of Law Defense Fund.”

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    David Maddison

    The Leftists have cut off the Trump Campaign’s email service. Never do business with a Leftist, they can’t be trusted!

    Email service cuts off Trump Campaign’s ability to send to followers in multi-pronged censorship blitz
    January 9, 2021

    Donald Trump and his campaign continued as the team’s ability to reach supporters through emails has been blocked.

    Shortly after the president and his campaign were permanently banned from Twitter, their email service provider suspended the account’s connection to millions of supporters. Campaign Monitor, the company used by the president’s campaign team, confirmed the move to the Financial Times.

    See link for rest.

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/01/09/email-service-cuts-off-trump-campaigns-ability-to-send-to-followers-in-multi-pronged-censorship-blitz-1014159/

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    Lance

    Um. Have a look. People INSIDE the Capitol handing out Baseball Bats to people OUTSIDE the room through OPEN window.

    Inside job? Or what? Watch it and think for yourself.

    https://video.parler.com/8t/vE/8tvE9XJjPtzd_small.mp4

    Looks like a “set up” to me.

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    Mike Mitchell

    Fascists have finally shown their true colors and .. they WILL NOT WIN!

    I’m canceling my Twitter, Facebook & Amazon accts. On Parler (but it may be going down for awhile..)

    Jo – are you are Parler?

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    boof

    The USA is rotten all the way to the top with Biden as president, Trump is the only politician not bound by some contributor or other, Bloomberg tried to get the gig for the other side but the Democrats did not want another free President. Biden is a multi-millionaire despite his only source of income being public service wages, his tax returns, however, are of no interest to the media.

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    Biden’s Zombies
    <a href=”https://kleinefeldmausorgnz.files.wordpress.com/2020/11/bidens-zombies.gif?w=640 Biden’s zombies move in – in the meantime

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    Sorry Jo, I believe that Newsmax poll to be fraudulent! You need to check your sources far more thoroughly! This give a far better indication of Trump’s Approval / Disapproval:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/after-the-storming-of-the-capitol-trump-grows-even-less-popular/ar-BB1cF3L3

    [Meh, my expert says…. Of course you personally have not spoken with a genuine Trump supporter have you? I didn’t think so.]ED

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    markx

    His speech was inflammatory with him knowing the mood and intentions of elements of his crowd, but, for the record, I am not pleased about Trump being censored in this manner.

    But I also marvel at the hypocrisy of Jo censoring relevant comments which are contradictory to her largely fictional constructs on this matter.

    Regards,

    markx

    [Sorry, this feels like Mobius has entered the room? Could you be more twisted?

    Trump used words that are ALWAYS used in political speeches! Nothing “inflammatory” at all. I am happy to hear that you are NOT pleased about “censorship in this manner” however.

    You may have redeeming qualities.]ED

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