Was that a 100% plus voter turn-out in some Michigan precincts?

UPDATE: A Big Thankyou to Pedant General and B. Hicks for the official count for North Muskegon (page 459) shows this was likely a decimal point error and turnout was 78% not 780%. Headline Changed (Original “Was that a 780% turnout in North Muskegon, Michigan?”). Things may still be far out of the ordinary in North Muskagon. Academic Agent claims the turnout in 2012 in this same county was just 25%. In 2016 it was 55%.  Somehow the Precinct was transformed from an apathetic low voter place to a place that turned out in historic numbers. Hypothetically, if people intending to cheat were going to find thousands of votes the counties with the lowest voter turnout would be the best places to start. That said, it’s so much better if Affidavits got the numbers correct. Shame something as important as a free and fair election is not being investigated in this kind of details by institutions with major resources and many staff like the DoJ and the FBI.

What’s the story for all the other 100%-plus Precinct here? — Jo

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You’ve heard of impossible voter turnouts in the USA and you were wondering why no one just listed the counties with the counts. Well here they are. Thanks to David E for finding them.

Many precincts of Michigan had a 100% turn out which is impressive in itself, but it was the 200, 400 and 800% turnouts that really take the cake. Ponder the kind of brazen cheating (or perhaps rushed panicked mistakes) that takes.  Even if there was a record high turnout of 80% in Michigan — 15% above normal — that would imply there were 36,812 extra zombie voters.

Below, see how one audit suggests that nearly one in ten absentee voters lives on a vacant lot or in a cemetery.

Exhibit Exhibit 104 — Document #1, Attachment #14

Affadavit of Russell James Ramsland

 

Michigan Turnout in 2020 election

Audit shows 9% of absentee votes in Michigan were not legal

Dead voters and people who live in vacant lots were keen for Joe Biden to win.

1,000 volunteers went through 30,000 votes of the 172,000 absentee votes

Deceased voters 229
Invalid addresses 2,660
8.9% of those votes were illegal.

If these patterns occur across the 172,000 Absentee votes that means 1,300 might be dead, and 15,000 may have fraudulent addresses. We don’t’ know that for sure yet, but we do know for sure that the city of Detroit poll workers were not doing their job and fraud was occurring.

 

Ramsland analyzed the logs of the ES&S Election Management System (EMS) for Dallas Texas. Perhaps he was on the Patrick Byrne team?

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      Ian

      I looked at the link you gave. The official result for the President was

      Registered Voters 96730 of 148377 = 65.19%
      Precincts Reporting 75 of 75 = 100.00%

      This is a far cry from 780%.

      96,730 voted of the total 148, 377 voters registered. A 780% increase would indicate there were 754,494 voting. It is apparent that if that figure had been given for Muskegon County the difference between the number voting and the 148,377 registered to vote would have been fairly noticeable.

      Where did this 780% come from?

      As there are numerous sub-sections in the 586 pages of the report, each showing voting figures for many different positions, I can only assume the votes for all these positions were totalled and given as the votes cast for the President.

      If the is a sample of Mr Trump’s lawsuits, it is not surprising he has lost all 38 so far.

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        PeterS

        You don’t get it. He’s just the following procedure of law. He wants them to fail so he can go the SCOTUS. There all he needs to show is the probabilistic evidence is overwhelming in declaring widespread fraud in the election. Then the 12th Amendment is triggered resulting in a very likely win for Trump.

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          Tim C

          Fool, you CANNOT introduce new evidence in an appeal, double fool probabilistic statistical analysis is not evidence just meaningless jibber jabber

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        The Pedant-General

        actually my bad – that’s Muskegon, not North Muskegon
        Wouold like to be able to download the precinct level results though so we can run the usual analysis

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          Even so, the City of Muskegon could not be 200% based on the data you found.

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          Strop

          City of North Muskegon is in that document starting at page 459. Precinct 1 page 459 & precinct 2 page 467.

          The affidavit extract in Jo’s article showing 780% turnout is not represented in the data of that document for North Muskegon. Would be good to know what the affidavit info is based on.

          The affidavit table also has Zeeland Charter Township listed twice with differing turnouts. Might just be sloppy typo and all the data in the affidavit might be correct, apart from a name repeat. But does raise the question of what else is sloppy or an error for such an important document.

          Paragraph 13 of the affidavit is interesting with the assertion it was not possible to count so many votes in that period.

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            yeah… must of been hard to count a few thousand votes in 2 days.

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              Strop

              Is that your considered opinion after reading the affidavit and the reference to the capacity of the machines not being sufficient to count 384,733 votes in 2hrs 38mins?

              Or is your comment just a frivolous throw away line without having read it?

              The affidavit count number and timeframe data may be flawed or it may be spot on. Either way, it needs more than “a few thousand votes in 2 days” to show it’s flawed.

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                who said they did? Or are you confusing timing of the the reporting of votes?

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                Strop

                Ramsland suggests they did. Stated in his affidavit.

                I’m not confusing anything. I’m simply referring to what’s stated in the affidavit. (The affidavit referred to when I asked if your comment #1.1.2.2.1 was based on reading it, or if it was just a frivolous comment without reading it.)

                Jo had a link to it in the article but I’ll provide it here for you
                https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18693929/1/14/king-v-whitmer/

                See item 13.

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                Strop

                It seems there are two paragraphs numbered 13. I’m referring to the para 13 on page 5 of 6.

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                Again, what is that graph. If it is just reporting of votes the time intervals are irrelevant.

                Also, once again, there are multiple layers of observers who would detect this on the ground.

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                That graph looks like junk evidence. If the court can’t read the x-axis – then they wont even consider it. BTW it looks like the axis is location not time, in which case where is he pulling the “2 hours” from.

                This whole document is just porridge and lacks any information about it uses for its data or references to primary from which a judgement can be made.

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                Strop

                If it is just reporting of votes the time intervals are irrelevant.

                The graph doesn’t have time intervals that I can see. But the actual time taken to count is relevant even if it’s not represented on the graph. I don’t know the source of the 2hrs 38mins. I don’t know if that time is correct and you don’t know if it’s not correct.

                Also, once again, there are multiple layers of observers who would detect this on the ground.

                Usually there would be but that’s one of the complaints. Observers were not permitted to observe at some places. Why not?

                If the court can’t read the x-axis – then they wont even consider it.

                Probably true. But seems we can make out it’s locations on the x-axis.
                Oddly the legend below the x-axis seems to show “Rep(Trump)” and “Dem(Biden/Clinton)”.

                BTW it looks like the axis is location not time, in which case where is he pulling the “2 hours” from.

                It is location. He doesn’t claim it’s time. Obviously he’s got the 2hrs 38mins from elsewhere. Maybe the data feed logs indicates vote totals changing over time for the locations he’s referring to. Just because it’s not illustrated on the graph doesn’t mean his time assertion is not true.

                If his data on the machine capacity is correct, and the number of votes counted correct, and the timeframe of 2hr 38mins is correct, then it demonstrates a definite anomaly and that’s what the claim is.
                He’s not presenting evidence in a criminal fraud trial. He’s claiming there’s an anomaly that needs looking into because the anomaly is large enough to potentially affect the outcome.

                What triggered this conversation is I said it was interesting. I didn’t claim it to be anything else. Your reply (a few thousand votes in a couple of days) was an inadequate rebuttal and not much has changed since. I still think it’s interesting and I’d like to know how the 2hrs 38mins was established for that number of votes.

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                Gee aye

                The courts won’t consider this evidence as there is absolutely no information presented that can help them interpret it. The end.

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      Hi Pedant… the data is in your link, just search for “north” (Ctrl-F)

      Cityh of North Muskegon, Precinct 1
      1,178 of 1,602 registered voters = 73.53%

      City of North Muskegon, Precinct 2
      1,470 of 1,788 registered voters = 82.21%

      Jo. If you are reading. How does this equate to what you have posted?

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    Tel

    Michigan switched over to “Same Day” voter registration.

    That means even if you never voted before in your life, you aren’t on any voter roll but you have some evidence of residency (not 100% sure what they accept, but usually a water bill, or lease agreement, or any paperwork with your name and address) then you are allowed to vote.

    That means they are constantly in the process of adding people, at the same time people are voting. Good luck trying to audit the turnout!

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      I don’t know about Michigan but a friend of my sons who lives in Maryland said he was never asked for ID when he voted. He said he could have gone from one polling place to the next to the next and voted multiple times.

      Bingo – “over voting”….

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        Tel

        Voting under someone else’s name is illegal, although in some places as you say the supervision is slack and it would be easy to get away with. Generally they will at least check if the name that you provide is on the voter roll and matches up with the address you give … not high security by any means but better than nothing. More stringent ID laws exist in some places but not others.

        The “Same Day” voter registration is perfectly legal (in a few states), and you turn up on the day, you are not on the voter roll at all so there’s nothing for them to check against. In theory of course you can only do that once … in theory.

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    Mike

    I wonder where William F. Buckley, Jr. would stand on this post election controversy.

    The editors of his magazine have taken a stance: Trump’s Disgraceful Endgame.

    (National Review is an American semi-monthly conservative editorial magazine focusing on news and commentary pieces on political, social, and cultural affairs. The magazine was founded by the author William F. Buckley Jr. in 1955)

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      Quote from same NR article:

      Over the weekend, he [presumably DT] repeated the charge that 1.8 million mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania were mailed out, yet 2.6 million were ultimately tallied. In a rather elementary error, this compares the number of mail-ballots requested in the primary to the number of ballots counted in the general. A straight apples-to-apples comparison finds that 1.8 million mail-in ballots were requested in the primary and 1.5 million returned, while 3.1 million ballots were requested in the general and 2.6 million returned.

      So there is no discrepancy in the mail-in vote numbers. But to call it a “rather elementary error” does seem a tad generous to me.

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    David Maddison

    Don Jr talks about censorship of his commentd by restricting his following (shadow banning) on Farcebook.

    Apologies for the legacy social(ist) media link, I couldn’t find another source for his comments.

    The war against the Trumps and free speech by the Socialist Billionaires and their slave armies of useful idiots is relentless.

    https://www.facebook.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/videos/5462160493809435/

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      If “Socialist Billionaires” were socialist, they wouldn’t be billionaires. The very term is an oxymorom.

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        oxymoron not oxymorom of course.

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        David Wojick

        And yet they advocate socialism. Perhaps they plan to be in charge.

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          wayne job

          George Orwell , Wrote Animal Farm about a group of communist pigs he explained that all pigs are equal but some pigs are more equal than others.
          This explains why there are billionaire socialists and some very wealthy Chinese communist party members.

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            sophocles

            George Orwell , Wrote Animal Farm about a group of communist pigs he explained that all pigs are equal but some pigs are more equal than others.

            No: in the book as Orwell wrote it:

            Clover also notices that the wall on which the Seven Commandments were written has been repainted: Now, the wall simply reads, “ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL / BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.” Eventually, all the pigs begin carrying whips and wearing Jones’ clothes …”

            There are some commenters on this blog who would easily, and from their utterances, would readily fill the role of “Useful idiots.”

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        PeterS

        That’s like saying if “Communist Billionaires” were communists, they wouldn’t be billionaires. Everyone knows there are many billionaires in China and each and every one of them would be severely punished for declaring they were not supporters of the CCP.

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        I don’t know about Michigan but a friend of my sons who lives in Maryland said he was never asked for ID when he voted. He said he could have gone from one polling place to the next to the next and voted multiple times.

        Bingo – “over voting”….

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        David Maddison

        Slarty, that’s because you think socialism is a movement of the “downtrodden masses”. That’s what the propagandists want you to think. It is and always has been a movement of the super Elites to acquire wealth and power and to control everyone else, including their useful idiot slave armies. Surely this is obvious to you, especially in the light of US election results and who was responsible for getting the Left (possibly) elected?

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        David Maddison

        Slarty,

        Socialism is a movement not of the working classes but of the elites, born of arrogance, snobbery, and preposterous pretense, kept alive not from lived experience but the astonishing capacity of an ideologically soaked brain to live in denial of reality.

        https://www.aier.org/article/are-we-seriously-debating-capitalism-vs-socialism-again/

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          Ah yes. That great authority on socialism, the AIER (of Great Barrington!!!). I suppose it’s a bit like referring to the writings of Karl Marx to explain capitalism.

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      PeterS

      You are right about the war and useful idiots, but I’m afraid regardless of whether Trump wins or not the tide is too strong. The socialist left will subjugate and smash the US, possibly by 2033 give or take a couple of years or so depending on whether Trump wins now. We could hope that if Trump wins he would postpone the inevitable a while but the other side is too powerful to overcome without the vast majority of the people, including most of the current useful idiots siding with him. Perhaps they will once they wake up and realize they have been fooled by the elite left. By that time the subjugation will be very strong so the only way to remove it is by a civil war.

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        Greg Cavanagh

        When all of academia, all of the MSM, and at least 50% of the population want socialism, it seems inevitable that it will happen.

        I now believe the Civil War wouldn’t be able to overturn the direction the US is heading. It’d probably hasten it, depending on what the military do with their instructions.

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        Louise

        The radicalised left in America are like the Greens in Australia. A small noisy minority. They do inhabit certain industries and positions that amplifies and extends their reach beyond their actual number. Like their control of legacy media – that we’ve all stopped listening to right?

        Despite the purposeful cluster f#%$ the Democrats have created in 6 states and the race to ensure the legitimate President takes office, the American people voted overwhelmingly to reject what the Democrats were peddling – socialism. That gives me hope. How many Dem seats in the house flipped red and not a senate seat lost. Pelosi and the far left Squad are dismal failures.

        I’m realistic about the threat this powerful, corrupt cohort of globalists and radical leftists poses. The best thing to stop them is Trump. He knows it, they know it, the people know it. That’s why the all out assault on the electoral system to take him down.

        They’re attacking every pillar that upholds the structure of the country. From the thin blue line (defund the police to create mayhem), to weaponising institutions like the FBI/CIA (Americans don’t trust them anymore). The media have dropped any pretence of fairness and do pathelogical dishonesty. Now it seems the DOJ has fallen. Election integrity skewered. About the only pillar left is the Supreme Court.

        With America in turmoil and the concerning possibility of Beijing Biden as puppet POTUS, it isn’t a coincidence that The CCP is dramatically ramping up the pressure on Australia. She’ll be brought to heel to teach all others a lesson in the dangers of standing up to a menacing bully. No barriers to further aggression in this region with Trump gone.

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      Failing to see where these billionaires fit into the post about poorly researched data misapplied in a lawsuit?

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    No Michigan community had more votes than registered voters.

    The title of this article is misinformation.

    Updating the database for same day registrations could have taken a few days, and confused an analysis, creating artificially high voter turnouts.

    This is conspiracy theory nonsense that should never be included in what used to be a science based website.

    [What all of us are lacking are credible sources of information. You Richard make bold claims “NO MICHIGAN COMMUNITY” etc. and then offer zero evidence. Some kind of science there Sir Richard. Thanks for the help clearing this up.]ED

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      Strop

      No Michigan community had more votes than registered voters.

      Try Bridgeton Township, Precinct 1. 166 of 133 registered voters = 124.81%
      That’s in Michigan.

      Ok, it’s in the Holton Public Schools category and not the presidential vote. Plus it could be because you could vote for more than 1 candidate (if “vote for not more than 4” means you can vote for more than 1)
      But is is an example of a Michigan community having “more votes than registered voters”. 🙂

      .

      Updating the database for same day registrations could have taken a few days, and confused an analysis, creating artificially high voter turnouts.

      Wait. Is that you just theorising?

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      Tel

      No Michigan community had more votes than registered voters.

      That statement is not meaningful because Michigan does not require voters to be registered.

      That’s the whole point of the “Same Day” system … any resident can rock up and vote despite never being on any voter roll. They are added to the roll in an ad hoc way as they come along on election day.

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      You made the charge
      YOU have to prove it

      You have insulted my home state (since 1977).

      There may be lots of election fraud in Detroit but we are not so stupid as to have votes exceed the registered voters in any community.

      There may be people who voted in the wrong precinct due to error, or to avoid lines, but your charge is false.

      It’s nearly impossible to prove a negative and you know that.

      If this was true, then the Trump legal team should have publicized it within one week after the election.
      They did not.
      Maybe you ought to send them an e-mail !

      Biden will be the next president
      And I don’t like that at all.

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        Anyone who looked at the claimed over vote in North Muskegon, and believed that numbers, is very gullible.

        Anyone who looks at numbers with two decimal places
        and sees 100.00% most of the time, should be very suspicious.
        Not 99%
        not 101%
        not 100.2%
        and not 100,9%

        This article is a complete fabrication and does not deserve a place on any website.

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    Ian

    A report in AP News https://tinyurl.com/y58zry4p headlined;

    “Disputing Trump, Barr says no widespread election fraud” states;

    “Attorney General William Barr, a Republican and reported as being one of the president’s most ardent allies,. said on Attorney General William Barr said Tuesday, Dec. 1, the Justice Department has not uncovered evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.

    In an interview Barr said U.S. attorneys and FBI agents have been working to follow up specific complaints and information they’ve received, but they’ve uncovered no evidence that would change the outcome of the election.

    “To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election,” Barr said

    The comments are especially direct coming from Barr, who has been one of the president’s most ardent allies.

    Is Barr lying?

    The report also stated:
    “Attorney Sidney Powell has spun fictional tales of election systems flipping votes, German servers storing U.S. voting information and election software created in Venezuela “at the direction of Hugo Chavez,” – the late Venezuelan president who died in 2013. Powell has since been removed from the legal team after an interview she gave where she threatened to “blow up” Georgia with a “biblical” court filing.

    Barr didn’t name Powell specifically but said: “There’s been one assertion that would be systemic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed essentially to skew the election results. And the DHS and DOJ have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that,”

    This article plus the ludicrous claim of 780% voter turnout-out in Muskegon County surely give commenters here food for thought.. Don’t they?

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      crakar24

      Ian,

      You are hatching a very big conspiracy theory here, imagine thousands of Americans all swore under oath they witnessed vote fraud across 5 states are all part of a conspiracy to steal the election from the democrats.

      Not only this but you have highly regarded and well qualified members of the armed forces in on this plot as well, believe this because of one man saying there is no voter fraud.

      Perhaos you should reconsider your position here?

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        Ian

        No, Crakar 24. I’m not hatching a very big conspiracy or any other sized conspiracy but drawing to readers’ attention an article published in AP News on Tuesday December 1 that will have been read by thousands of Americans, some whom maybe in the Armed Forces .

        And as for reconsidering my position I’ve been posting on the site since 2012 . If Jo wants me if she will tell me. I may be mistaken but I don’t think she will as, like me, she is a scientist and scientists do put forward views that challenge the reader. However scientists don’t say “as most disagree with you, you can’t post here.”

        A few questions for you.

        Unable to cope with different views? Freedom of speech a problem? This site should be an echo chamber? Can’t differentiate between messing]ger and originator?

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          OriginalSteve

          All the sworn affidavits tell a different story….

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          crakar24

          12 years and still the same narrow one eyed view on the world.

          As i said you are dismissing hundreds of eye witness accounts of voter fraud based an a statement one one person, you may be convinced but millions in the US are not.

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          crakar24

          sorry forgot to answer your questions

          1, Different views is fine as long as they are based on reality and evidence
          2, As above freedom of speech is fine as long as they are based on reality and evidence not the tripe that GA constantly vomits out
          3, This site continually moderates me and others on trivial things but eventually they get through perhaps with minor tweaks, the fact that GA and others comment with absolute freedom tells you an echo chamber it is not
          4, Messenger or simply a regurgitating shill with a massive dose of TDS which leaves them blind to what is really going on?

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          crakar24

          Ian,

          Here is an example, a USPS states he was to transport approx 288,000 completed ballots from NY to PA, after 6 hours of waiting he was told to go to Harrisburg and drop off the ballots at the USPS depot, the next day his trailer was gone.

          Barr claims there is no fraud to change the election, who to believe the USPS who swore under oath or Barr who obviously dismissed this evidence without even investigating the incident?

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            Ian

            The view I posted was that from the AP News article. The author provided this evidence

            ” Barr said U.S. attorneys and FBI agents have been working to follow up specific complaints and information they’ve received, but they’ve uncovered no evidence that would change the outcome of the election.

            “To date, we have not seen fraud.” I

            Is he lying? If you believe he is, where is your evidence? Or is it that you believe US attorneys and FB agents are lying? If so, again, where is your evidence?

            “freedom of speech is fine as long as they are based on reality and evidence”

            As above the evidence is from the investigations carried out by UA attorneys and the FBI. I doubt these investigators would lle.

            I didn’t ask you whether this site was or was not an echo-chamber. The question I asked you was if you thought this site should be an echo- chamber? Will you answer the question asked? Just yes for no will do although if you say no then could you let me know why I shoaled “reconsider my position here?

            “Messenger or Messenger or simply a regurgitating shill with a massive dose of TDS which leaves them blind to what is really going on?”

            A messenger when it comes down to it is regurgitating but a shill? Depends on your point of view.

            Mine happens to be that the Attorney General, a republican and a Trump supporter is unlkely to lie. `Similarly neither are those attorneys and FBI agents who provided him with the information.

            And while on the topic of messengers and regurgitatng shills you are telling, or regurgitating if you prefer, to readers here the story of the USPS the claims sworn under oath that his trailer containing approximately 280,000 votes had disappeared.

            Had he delivered the trailer to Harrisburg before it disappeared or had it disappeared before he went? If the trailer had disappeared perhaps it had been taken to the election counting venue. Was there any evidence the votes had not been counted? If so what evidence? Had the trailer really disappeared or did the USPS just say it did? Was there any supporting evidence that gthe trailer had disappeared.

            It s still a bit soon to be definitive but it seems Trump’s lawsuits are lacking in relevant information, that there is, so far, no hard evidence of deliberate malfeasance in the conduct of the election that would alter the result.

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              Paul Moulton

              This is not like the good old days when trust in authorities was high.
              – The FBI launched Crossfire Hurricane on nothing.
              – The FBI sat on Hunter Biden’s laptop, (or just the drive or a copy?) for a year and did nothing

              Do I trust the FBI to investigate election fraud? It sucks, but recent history says the FBI is part of the establishment.

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              sophocles

              AP News is one of the Legacy Media.
              Believe it if you wish, or can’t find anything better.

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      David Wojick

      Powell has asked to examine the machines. Have to see what the Courts say. I believe her claim is that the machines were manipulated, not programmed. But here is the big question, brought up by a very good legal analysis, posted a few days ago. Is there any record of how people actually voted, apart from how the machines say they did? If not then there is no actual record, no way to audit the machines. This could be a deep violation of the federal election laws, which require a record of votes.

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        Lawrie

        If the votes were kept they could be manually counted and perused to ensure they tally withy the machine vote. The votes would have to be kept in order to have recounts.

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          PeterS

          I would have thought that would be mandatory under the law as well as common sense. If there are no records then the votes should be disqualified. No wonder the US is heading the same chaotic way as Venezuela. The election procedures are so alike.

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        He is still President, why doenst he just sack the heads of these depts and put in someone who will at least look at the infromation?

        Perhaps hes waiting for the rumoured coming round up?

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        Mike Jonas

        Until this goes to SCOTUS, nothing is resolved. If it doesn’t go to SCOTUS, Joe Biden is legally the president. The ball is in Donald Trump’s court, and either he plays it (ie, goes to SCOTUS) or he loses.

        [Note: “legally” may not be the same as “legitimate”, but that’s irrelevant without a SCOTUS ruling.]

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        Louise

        Apparently a couple of the witnesses, including a Dominion employee were so concerned at what they were seeing they sent information to the FBI. Nothing happened, not even a phone call. This is now their testimony. But Barr then has the gall to announce they haven’t found any evidence having done nothing to investigate allegations made.

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      Richard Jenkins

      Barr says “to date” and is referencing theFBI and DoJ.. Be patient Barr does not do this he has to rely on staff. Strange the FBI had Hunter Biden’s laptop a year ago. The swamp is vast.

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    crakar24

    Moderation again that is it not wasting my time here anymore

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    B. Hicks

    Conspiracy to commit fraud, maybe. But let’s for one moment consider a different theory – one of a misplaced decimal point.

    Two precincts in North Muskegon. Looking at precinct-by-precinct results on the official page (https://www.co.muskegon.mi.us/DocumentCenter/View/10306/Precinct-Results-11-3-2020 (starts on page 459)):

    3,390 registered voters in North Muskegon (1,602 in the 1st Precinct + 1,788 in the 2nd)

    Turnout: 73.53% for the 1st Precinct (1,178 voters), and 82.21% for the 2nd (1,470) — Total of 2,648 votes, i.e. 77.87% turnout for the whole city. Believable.

    781.91% of 3,390 registered voters would be 26,506.749. Doesn’t sound right. But if there were a misplaced decimal somewhere, 78.191% of 3,390 = 2,650 — suspiciously close to the reported 2,648. However, 78.1% of 3,390 is exactly the reported number if we round down the fraction relative to the total votes (2,648).

    I say someone misplaced a decimal point and did some rounding, which to me is the most plausible explanation. Having to chose between a silly error in running numbers and a global conspiracy, I pick the former. After all, isn’t this the same guy who swapped MI and MN and got red flags in the data out of thin air?

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      Richard Jenkins

      The decimal point may be right. Apply that theory to the next 14 on the list. 100% is extraordinary and so is 10%. 100% suggest cautious cheating.

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        Yes.
        B. Hicks, The decimal point argument looks very convincing. Thanks to you and Pedant General I updated the post hours ago with a note right at the top, and a change to the headline– and thought I had replied here.

        Voter turnout was still incredibly high, but not remotely like the 780%. The question then, is where do the other high numbers come from and are they still correct?

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      Richard Jenkins

      The decimal point may be right. Apply that theory to the next 14 on the list. 100% is extraordinary and so is 10%. 100% suggest cautious cheating.

      [Duplicate]

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    Enoch Root

    This is even more strange, from the same source: https://imgur.com/qgUq9Om

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    This is the guy who 5 days earlier produced almost exactly the same document with different, but still erroneous data from Minnesota instead of Michigan but claimed it was from MI.

    https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.gand.283580/gov.uscourts.gand.283580.7.1_2.pdf

    I wonder how he derived those percentages when the polling data is clearly under 100%

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      Peter Fitzroy

      Krakans can’t count

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        Neo

        Not even on their tentackacles?? 🙂

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          William Astley

          Neo,

          The idiot Dems, every last one, are falling for Q’s plan. The Dems thought as the DOJ, FBI, and CIA were all covering up the 2020 US election fixing. …That there was no way that they could actually get caught in the massive fraud.

          You see the problem is the Dems are so unpopular that had to cheat too much. So any large independent investigation could find the evidence of the US election fraud. And sure enough there is group that found evidence and then were told by the FBI that they had to turn their evidence over to the FBI.

          Get the picture… why the Dems that they were invincible?

          Now, because China was involved and there is evidence of the use of a second advance biological weapon used in the US. … There is now an independent, deep pocketed investigation of the CIA Frankfurt server intel by the 305 Military Intelligence Battalion.

          What I have heard, it is a fact that the idiot Dems, CIA, and FBI have all left memos, analysis, on the Frankfurt CIA server concerning the 2020 US election cheating and the same server records the changes in real time, and records the payments. The cheating is a money making operation and the profits are shared.

          The Frankfurt server is the biggest find in world intelligence history.

          Q predicts China will offer asylum to senior Dems when the Milt present their findings to the US people in early Jan 2021.

          https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/05/21/multiple-universities-refuse-to-cooperate-with-federal-investigations-into-ties-to-china/

          MULTIPLE UNIVERSITIES REFUSE TO COOPERATE WITH FEDERAL INVESTIGATIONS INTO TIES TO CHINA

          https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2020/11/21/trump-orders-useucom-to-seize-scytl-servers-in-germany/

          President Trump’s Forces used a military unit attached to USEUCOM (United States European Command) to get a CIA computer facility to hand over evidence in Frankfurt Germany. By using this method, with U.S. law enforcement present to take custody of the evidence, that evidence is now under the control of the Department of Justice through US Attorneys. Because of the way it was obtained, it can all be used in court or other judicial proceedings.

          Both the head of the CIA, Gina Haspel, and the head of the FBI, Christopher Wray were not informed of the operation taking place in advance. Both of them had been aggressively working to undermine and sabotage the Trump Administration.

          https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/proof-fraud-republicans-won-28-29-competitive-house-seats-added-3-state-legislatures-not-lose-single-house-race-joe-biden-won/

          We’ve identified over 450,000 ballots that miraculously only have a vote for Joe Biden on them and no other candidate.

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            William, did you really think that was all worth typing up?

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            Peter Fitzroy

            Who uses just one physical server now? All datacenters use rack after rack of compute, and rack after rack of storage. There is a hypervisor, which manages all the compute and storage and builds as many virtual machines as needed by an application. Each instance is also replicated 3 times in a single hypervisor, and can be replicated to other hypervisors, and other datacenters.

            There is no such thing as individual, isolated server that can be seized.

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              Mark D.

              There is no such thing as individual, isolated server that can be seized.

              Mostly Bull Sheite there Peter. Servers are mirrored for redundancy but any one of them could be seized for valuable evidence as well as the actual data storage which could also be spread across some separate redundant devices.

              Data center space is expensive and nobody would pay for any more of it than necessary. Certainly not “rack after rack”.

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              sophocles

              and, of course, a Mil Int unit would not bother to analyse the target before trying to walk in. Of course not, everybody knows that Military Intelligence is an oxymoron.

              Servers are `built’ (or leased) to provide speed and capacity to match anticipated loading. Anything otherwise is a waste of money and nobody (except Sukkaberg et al) has enough of that stuff to waste.

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              William Astley

              Peter.

              You are incorrect, because what is true in general is not true in the case of what the CIA did at Frankfurt.

              It is technically possible, to create a ‘special’ CIA server and put the special server, in with the other CIA servers. The objective is to have a super secure server that can only be accessed via a secret code.

              Same said server also tracks who accesses the server. You get the picture. Evil plotters need special stuff and they get money to build special stuff.

              Regardless of what you believe.

              The info on the CIA Frankfurt server is the greatest find in world intelligence history. It is only possible because of modern technology and an over the top need to change the results of 2020 US election.

              The CIA needed as super secure place to discuss evil stuff, like US 2020 election fixing, and other illegal Dems plots which the CIA implement.

              The Dems heard about the Frankfurt CIA super secure and full of CIA data that the CIA absolutely does not want to see the light of day….;

              The senior Dems and the CIA thought it would be a good idea to use the same CIA special server to discuss the Dems evil election fixing, paying for the fixes and so. To avoid the Dems getting caught, endangering the CIA plotters.

              Q found the weird super large server and found other evidence of its existence in idiot Dem emails.

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    Neo

    Wow, nice little earner if you can get it. 🙁

    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-raises-millions-on-false-us-election-fraud-claims-20201201-p56jq6.html

    Pre-checked commitment boxes are always a sign of a scam.

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    David Maddison

    Slightly off topic but incredibly hilarious involving Biden and Pelosi and his sprained ankle.

    Hilarious!

    It helps if you are familiar with the Stephen King movie “Misery” but you don’t have to be.

    https://youtu.be/jmZC8TBOKZc

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    David Maddison

    ***NEWS FLASH***

    The Billionaire Socialists have now silenced Tony Heller on YouTube.

    Published on Dec 1, 2020
    Due to censorship, I can’t post anything meaningful on YouTube anymore. My new home is https://newtube.app/user/TonyHeller Please subscribe today before YouTube deletes my account and you can still find me.

    ***NEWS FLASH***

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    WokeBuster

    I’m increasingly doubting that Trump will triumph despite the clear evidence of fraud and irregularities. Trump is popular but he doesn’t own the Republican Party. He can’t beat the combined forces of the Democrat and Republican establishment, the judiciary and MSM. Of course, if the tables were turned and it was the Democrats crying fraud against Trump, you can bet SCOTUS would not be needed because everything would be sorted at the State level. Audits of every state in play would be conducted within a week.

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    crakar24

    “There is no fraud”

    GA, Ian, Barr

    https://youtu.be/MCWE9Qi84I8

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      Paul Moulton

      Barr is being taken out of context or is lying.

      Motive? Trump is basically an Orange Hitler to democrats, so there is huge motive.
      Opportunity? There is a world wide consensus that mail in ballots are very easily manipulated. Easy Peasy!
      Risk? BLM rioters are never arrested, so the system will protect me. No accountability ever, so no risk!

      Conclusion: Fraud had to have happened, unless Democrats secretly love Trump.

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    Chrism

    the audit of 9% absentee suggests widespread and determined efforts to derail the legitimate voter intent
    we are told it is one way, or mostly one way
    absentee percentages vary but are in some states are a significant percentage
    PA hasd 8.6M voters, 2.6 registered for absentee and 10% would be 260,000 voters
    Biden 3.459 M Trump 3.378 M is the poll result
    if Biden loses 0.25M his vote goes to 3.209M, losing to Trump

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    David Maddison

    If Trump doesn’t win this there will be little hope of him or Don Jnr winning 2024 because the Dems will rig the entire system including the SCOTUS to ensure no conservative can ever win again.

    However, I do see Trump starting his own political party based on the pure founding principles of the United States including its foundational documents.

    If the movement is popular enough, pro-American forces will be able to take back America.

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      WokeBuster

      Given Trump cites Andrew Jackson as his hero, there is a good chance he will create his own party and seek revenge. America First Party, maybe?

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        Neo

        “America First Party, maybe?”

        Lol, be careful what you wish for. Remember the US has 1st pass the post voting.

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    RossP

    Great interview by Lou Dobbs with one of Trump lawyers.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRfF5WePmRo&feature=emb_title

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    John F. Hultquist

    From comment #6:
    “To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election,” Barr said

    Note AG Barr did not say there was not fraud. The number of votes by which DJT lost is large, too large to be changed by the fraud that can be unequivocal shown.

    I’ve thought, and wrote here and elsewhere, — from about Day 3 — that the Biden win would not be overturned. I agree there were problems. The State of Washington has had mail-out voting of nearly 100% for 10 years, and partial much longer. Kim Wyman is Washington’s Secretary of State {for 8 years}, in charge of elections. She warned other states they would have multiple problems rushing into mail procedures, and they have.
    However, as AG Barr said — it’s not enough to change the election.
    Get used to saying President Biden — until he is replaced by Harris.
    Please note: I think DJT was a great President. [He is a rough New Yorker, but I can deal with that.]

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    Also the data for Zeeland Charter Township (https://www.miottawa.org/appImages/ElectionManagement/precinctFile-203.pdf) show different turnout % values (starting from page 918).

    Four Precincts there, totalling 8,740 registered voters for 6,975 returned votes, giving a 79.8% turnout. Again, not 460.51% or 90.59% reported in the affidavit (note Zeeland Charter Township is reported twice, each time with a different turnout value). Also notable that Trump won by a good margin in Zeeland Charter Township – so if we assume fraud there, I guess it was not by the Dems.

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    CHRIS

    The Trump camp had better provide concrete proof of any voting fraud, IN ANY STATE, by December 14 or….Hey Joe!!

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    William Astley

    The BBC is waking up to the Chinese plot. What about covid origins? 2020 US election fixing? Could they all be related in some kind of stupid evil plan? And the climate emergency is part of the evil plan to get us to spend our countries to death and fight about stupid stuff.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55177975

    US intellectual property worth $500bn (£370bn) was being stolen every year, he said. FBI arrests of Chinese nationals for stealing research had become frequent and China had also been paying the head of Harvard University’s chemistry department $50,000 a month until his arrest earlier this year.

    Mr Ratcliffe also accused Chinese intelligence services of introducing vulnerabilities into technology offered by top Chinese tech firms such as Huawei and said allies using Chinese technology would not have US intelligence shared with them.

    He said US intelligence showed that China had carried out “human testing” on troops with the aim of developing soldiers with “biologically enhanced capabilities”.

    According to Q: Before Jan, the US Milt will release, the HCQ cocktail is a cheap cure for covid info to the US pubic. Soon after Vit D covid info will be released. This is the start of the US’ counter intelligence plan. The US Milt’s objective is also to as soon as possible stop the covid danger in the US, before announcing covid origins. i.e. Remove fear and provide a very clear and logical path forward.

    The US and China are now at war. And war will never be declared, as per a Chinese term to get the rules of engagement (China really, really wants to be a secret evil country. Evil is as evil does.)

    A second Chinese demand which the US accepted is that the US does not disclose … to the US public… that Chinese agents used a second and third advance biological weapon in the US. And the Milt does not inform the US public of a Chinese plot involving Biden and Pelosi. According to Q, Biden and Pelosi are both going to leave the US for China, in Jan when Milt announce covid origins and 305 Intelligence Battalion’s findings concerning the alleged CIA/FBI plot to change the outcome of 2020 US election.

    Trump knows nothing about the above. The US Milt are working independently and will present evidence to a few key people in the gov/Sup court and to Trump and then to US people to justify their actions. Trump will in advance approve the US Milt plan which will temporarily replace the US gov. with …

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