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Cyberwarfare: Two 3-Star Generals call it “treason” and explain The Kraken is a Military Intelligence Unit

Both Michael Flynn and Thomas McInerney spoke on WVW with Brannon Howse

They make remarkable claims. These are both three star Lieutenant Generals, effectively endorsing each other and Trump and suggesting CIA involvement, foreign interference, and talking of crack US soldiers seizing servers in Germany that were controlled by the CIA.

The implications are that there are sections of US intelligence on opposite sides of the battle. This might explain why, at one point, Sidney Powell said she wasn’t sure if the good guys or the bad guys had the servers in Germany. (The good guys apparently got the servers in the end, but possibly at the highest price, and we wait to find out what, if anything, was on them).

Not many in the US would know more about intelligence operations than Michael Flynn — the 18th Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) under Obama and the National Security Adviser under Trump.  Thomas G. McInerney is a retired United States Air Force Lieutenant General who flew in 407 combat missions during the Vietnam War. He was also Assistant Vice Chief of Staff of the US Air Force.

“We’ve never seen treason of this magnitude ever in our history” declared McInerney. “Trump must not let deadlines stop him fulfilling his oath to defend the country against all enemies, both foreign and domestic”.

In this strange election twilight zone, there is no easy way to verify much. In a normal world (the one we thought we lived in six weeks ago) we’d expect the media to put this sort of thing on the front page. In a normal world, if the BBC didn’t mention it, perhaps it didn’t happen. But the normal world hasn’t been normal for years.  Gradually more things became Undiscussed — like cold snaps and scientists hiding declines. But, now the censorship fog has arrived like a Brown Dwarf snuck up on the solar system.

Keep your skeptical hat on. It sounds like a Tom Clancy thriller. It would make a great movie. And both sides have an interest in a Big Bluff.

What is the CIA’s role in cyberwarefare

One America News (OANN) has done a good job of summarizing that story.

One Rep.  Louie Gohmert claimed there was a raid on a Scytl server in Germany. Scytl though denies it, and the man that Trump sacked that used to run the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) said it didn’t happen and the Army said “no” too. But then most official agencies probably don’t explain and confirm all the movements of their intelligence forces. Possibly those doing the PR don’t even know them. What was that saying — don’t believe it til it’s officially denied?

It’s not so much a civil war as a cyberwar

“The first time in the United States history that massive amounts of Cyberwarfare have been used in US Elections.”

We’ve mentioned the CIA programs called Hammer and Scorecard before. Hammer was surveillance software developed by Dennis Montgomery for the CIA under the Bush Government to go after radical islamists. We know this because Montgomery has since become a whistleblower. Scorecard was used to influence foreign elections to help elect leaders the US preferred. I did say “There is a karma to this.” If the US was involved in rigging foreign elections, (while supposedly promoting democracy) —  is it any wonder the same tool came back to bite? And fast too, like vote flipping at the speed of light.  Just two weeks after Obama took office (two weeks!), the programs were moved out of the CIA custody and into a group that could use it against the citizens of the United States.

Software that can control nations is like free opium — we can’t leave it lying around and not expect someone to use it.

Kraken is a crack military intelligence team

In another part of the interview McInerney explains that “Kraken” means the 305th Military Intelligence Battalion who have been helping The President. He identifies China, Russia and Iran as being involved in manipulating votes.

In the full interview the claims about the German servers were at 26 minutes. McInerney takes over from Flynn at 32 minutes. The Kraken claim is at about the 42 minute mark. Mary Fanning finishes. She’s been involved for years in investigating this and has written a whole book: “THE HAMMER is the Key to the Coup “The Political Crime of the Century”: How Obama, Brennan, Clapper, and the CIA spied on President Trump, General Flynn … and everyone else”

According to Fanning, McInerney and Flynn, the US Special Forces seized servers in Frankfurt Germany that were allegedly controlled by the CIA. If so, this would be Military Government forces against Civilian Government forces. A dire situation especially given that McInerney mentions that he has also heard there may have been fatalities during the seizure. He stresses that this is unverified.


There is a full transcript at NaturalNews (albeit in need of some spellchecking)

McInerney:.This is the most dangerous situation since the civil war of keeping this nation United, and why do I say that? The civil war, it was just warfare, today you and General Flynn talked about cyber warfare…

McInerney: My background is a military analyst, and for 16 and a half years I was on Fox News as a military analyst. I have been the number three man in the air staff in the air force, and so I had a great background, but what made this so easy for me Brannon is I run a cloud company, an edge cloud company. I am intimately familiar with this kind of technology and what it’s doing and live by it in my military days. Everybody remembers when we attacked Tripoli in 1986. I was the commander and they launched from my bases in England.

Now, I got that information from the British and other sources, but my whole life has been based on this, and what I’m seeing now is those technologies now are used against the American people. They are trying to seize control of this nation through technology and through cyber warfare. They have enlisted to include Fox News who flipped on us. They have been listed the mainstream media and the first amendment to try to get on their side and General Flynn talked about the censorship. For instance,  Twitter determines what president Trump can say. That is ridiculous. It must stop,…

Trump has been up against some parts of the CIA or FBI for years (compare the four year Russia Russia zeal that came to nothing with one year of inaction on Hunter Bidens laptop).

The Deepest Deep State of them all is a swamp that needs draining.

No doubt the media-Swamp will have plenty of slurs at hand to dismiss the key characters.

 Lt. General McInerney Says “Kraken” is the 305th Military Intelligence Battalion

Steve Alexander, Repub.li

In an interview last night, lt. General McLnerney explained that the Kraken is the nickname for the 305th Military Intelligence Battalion at Fort Huachuca in Arizona. Sidney Powell and the President have apparently worked in collaboration with this unit.

Where are the CIA, FBI, or the DOJ? Are they investigating the scandal or covering it up?

There have been no footprints of the CIA, FBI, or the DOJ on the investigative side of national security reviews of the 2020 US Presidential Election according to the interview. The President has repeated for months that election security is national security.

The Pardon for Flynn was not only about justice, it frees up both Sidney Powell, and Michael Flynn.

A superstar from Fort Huachuca who commanded the 111th Military Intelligence Brigade was General Michael Flynn. Notably, General Flynn received a full Presidential Pardon with Innocence last week, ending a 4 year legal battle surrounding President Trump’s transition. The timely pardon relieves General Flynn of any legal concerns in discussing matters of his case or his relationship with the White House that may have been related to his case. Gag orders or sensitive subjects commonly prevent those embroiled in legal matters to speak freely about them publicly.

In Michael Flynn’s first interview since being Pardoned

“There is no doubt in my mind that he won this election. Hands down. In a landslide,” Flynn said about Mr. Trump during the interview.

Background ———————————-

Thomas G. McInerney is a retired United States Air Force Lieutenant General, a command pilot with more than 4,100 flying hours in 407 combat missions during the Vietnam War. He served in NATO, and in the Pacific Air Forces and as commander of the 11th Air Force in Alaska.  He was awarded the Defense Superior Service Medal, Distinguished Service Medal, Legion of Merit, etc.

None of which proves anything except that he might be well enough connected to know these things, and he has a reputation to protect.

Michael Flynn: Flynn made a deal to plead guilty to the Mueller investigation, but moved to withdraw that. The Dept of Justice announced it would drop all the charges in May but one Judge delayed making a decision for months. “Government documents released in the spring showed that [Flynn] had been framed by senior DOJ and FBI officials under the direction of President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden.” Trump pardoned Flynn last week.

h/t Bill C, Scott of the Pacific. David.

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187 comments to Cyberwarfare: Two 3-Star Generals call it “treason” and explain The Kraken is a Military Intelligence Unit

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    Jojodogfacedboy

    Obviously these groups in the US government is not rogue, so who authorized this huge operations in the US. For sure it was not President Trump as this operation was used against him.

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      Anton

      The East is Red?

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      Richard C (NZ)

      Jojo, don’t know how “this operation was used against him” but I agree on the rogue part.

      I characterize the factions this way:

      USA Loyalists vs Globalist Subversives + Techno-Fascists.

      This goes way back but has really come to a head during the Trump Admin. Much written about this elsewhere e.g. Cloward-Piven, Long march through the institions, Cultural Marxism, WEP, Soros, Snowden/Assange vs Deep State etc but basically the anti-USA factions have coalesced to the point where we are now.

      Best example I think is Khrushchev to Kennedy:

      “We will take America without firing a shot. We do not have to invade the U.S. We will destroy you from within….”

      ‘Former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov exposes the four stages of a Communist takeover of a country in rare 1984 interview’
      https://www.opindia.com/2020/06/former-kgb-agent-yuri-bezmenov-exposes-the-four-stages-of-a-communist-takeover-of-a-country-in-rare-1984-interview/

      The concept of ‘Ideological Subversion’

      Demoralisation of a population

      Destabilisation, Crisis and Normalisation

      “He stated that the Marxist-Leninist hold over the American defence and economic sector was ‘fantastic.’ Bezmenov said that he never thought that the process would be so easy to execute in the US when he landed there in 1971.”

      The thing about Totalitarians is that they don’t let you go – think Cuba, Hong Kong, Uighurs, Berlin Wall, Gulags etc.

      So whether the future of USA, and by trickle down, the rest of what is left of the free world, is freedom and liberty or subjection and imprisonment hangs on whether the outcome of this election fraud investigation is determined by one faction or the other and the forces driving each – those on the side of truth and freedom vs those on the side of deception and control.

      And by control I mean total enforced control – no dissent.

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      As a footnote I would point out that there are numerous examples of the symbol of fascism – a bundle of sticks tied around an axe – on monuments, buildings, and the House/Senate complex in Washington DC. And prior to Pearl Harbour there was much admiration of fascism among the elite of the day.

      In other words, USA has never been very far away from fascism of one sort or another – it holds much appeal to the elite of any era.

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        Richard C (NZ)

        Glenn Greenwald:

        ‘Biden Appointee Neera Tanden Spread the Conspiracy That Russian Hackers Changed Hillary’s 2016 Votes to Trump’

        “One can reasonably view Biden’s choice of Tanden as a positive. She is no different in character or ideology than any of the faceless, more obscure DNC operatives who would occupy this position if she did not. But because of how well-known her sociopathy, militarism and corporatism are to many on the liberal-left, her face serves as an undeniable and unavoidable reminder of what the Biden administration and the Democratic Party really are. She illuminates the truth about their real aims.”

        Substack

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        For convenience I include “corporatism” in the category of Techno-Fascists in #1.2.

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        sophocles

        The prevention of the re-election of Trump was seen in certain quarters to be necessary and urgent. He had taken the US (and its money) out of the Paris farce. So the short-sighted and ignorant “Little Gretas” had to ensure he didn’t get a another term nor another chance to interfere. How dare he! The Planet has to be saved. From what? Everything! Nothing! Just Hand over those USDollars, they are urgently required.

        The “Great Reset” — the greatest treason against humanity — couldn’t be interfered with. Bonny Prince Charlie wasn’t going to miss out! The UN was missing all the past US funding, (poor ickle fings.) See all the weeping and crocodile tears about incipient bankruptcy over the end of last year and into this year! Couldn’t possibly live within its means, could it? Couldn’t possibly economize in the traditional Western/Capitalist methods and fire that huge surfeit of useless diplomats? No. Definitely not. They’re the Jobs-For-Life blok.)

        Those behind that need to be hunted down (and reset) as much as those who planned and participated in The Treason.

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        Richard C (NZ)

        ‘Star-spangled fascism: American interwar political extremism in comparative perspective’
        Richard Steigmann-Gall
        https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/03071022.2016.1256592

        A dog that barked

        In the incisive comparison of Nazi Germany and New Deal America at the end of his Struggles for Justice, Alan Dawley concludes that the potential for what he calls a ‘counterrevolution’ in the USA (and for him Father Coughlin is the nearest actualization) ultimately went unrealized because, unlike Germany, there was an insufficient statist tradition in the United States. The ‘inherited structure’ of the liberal state, combined with an ethnic pluralism already too far advanced by the 1920s and 1930s, meant that the centralizing, exclusionist tendencies inherent in fascist theory could not gain ascendency. As he puts it: ‘[I]f tyranny had come to America, it would have worn the face not of state totalitarianism, but of corporate absolutism in league with mass conformity.’

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        That was then – but it’s all-in now.

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        Richard C (NZ)

        ‘The Hijacking of the 2020 Election and the Hate America Strategy’
        By Steve McCann

        There is a consensus that American society in 2020 is more polarized than at any point in the nation’s history. If Joe Biden is inaugurated as President thanks to an irrefutably fraudulent and choreographed election, then this polarization is irreversible and will ultimately lead to a permanent fracturing of the country as the central government will be deriving its power from usurpation and not from the consent of the governed. The sixty-year crusade of the American left and its Hate America Strategy, conceived to facilitate the ultimate transformation of the nation, will have succeeded in ways they never could have imagined.

        Today all democratic nations, particularly in Europe, are politically split between what would be generally considered the left (socialist or liberals) and the right (conservatives or populists). The precise definition of either side would be nuanced based on the country and its citizenry. Invariably, however, the primary differences between the two factions revolve around economic issues and class mobility.

        There is one common thread among all these nations despite their internal political differences. Neither the left nor right overtly denigrates and despises their country regardless of its past. Nor do they weaponize and exploit the supposed sins of their forefathers as a means of seizing political power. In many nations who have an active and sizable left, such as France, they proudly proclaim their pride in and affection for their country.

        On the other hand, beginning in the 1960’s the American left’s entire platform to seize power and satisfy their megalomania was built on fomenting revulsion and animosity toward the United States as founded. Recognizing that the century old tactic of exploiting class hostilities would not succeed in an essentially egalitarian society and piggybacking on the Civil Rights Movement, a new strategy was adopted: exploit the nation’s past by subjecting it to the intense spotlight of the present.

        Using the criteria of judging any nation’s past, not by the circumstances or societal norms of the day but by today’s standards, will inevitably lead to condemnation. However, rather than accept what happened in the past as the irreversible history of the times and move on, as virtually all other nations have done, the American left has succeeded in making the past America’s defining national characteristic.

        They have done so by infiltrating the education, media and entertainment establishments over the past six decades and essentially brainwashing a substantial segment of the populace into believing that America must be transformed because of its alleged racist, misogynistic and imperialist history. This transformation means empowering an American hybrid of socialism and a government permanently controlled by an oligarchy made up of corporatists and left-wing elitists. [See #1.2, #1.2.1, and #1.2.3 upthread]

        The Founders recognized that the only glue that will hold this this multi-ethnic country together is a consensus belief in and adherence to its founding principles. But this requires that each succeeding generation, either native born or naturalized, be taught these principles and to appreciate this nation’s evolution and accomplishments as well as what it stands for.

        Over the past 60 years that chain has been severely weakened and nearly fragmented by those who not only despise the United States but care only for their self-aggrandizement and are beset with incurable megalomania. Today a near majority of the citizenry is unquestioningly willing to accept socialism, believes America is incurably racist and irredeemable, and are content to accede to the unconstitutional dictates of those in power.

        The willingness of a sizeable majority of the nation’s self-styled elites and a plurality of the citizenry is disposed to accept and justify the overt, irrefutably fraudulent and choreographed 2020 election results corroborates the success of the Hate America Strategy.

        The weeks after November 3rd have confirmed that the bulk of the nation’s ruling class and the left believe the hijacking of an election is justified in order to achieve their endgame. Further, they have on their side a sizable plurality of the population that has been conditioned to believe a malevolent America must be transformed by any means possible, including stealing elections.

        A nation, such as the United States, that does not have a common ethnic bond among the whole of the populace can survive internal political differences including a flirtation with socialism. However, it cannot survive if half of the citizenry despises their country for being the hypothetical locus of evil in the world and the other half is calculatingly disenfranchised.

        The 2020 election is a watershed moment for this country. Not because of who is running for any political office but because how the country’s institutions adjudicate the election outcome will determine the future course of this nation and its prospects of remaining united. If the election guardrails established in the Constitution are ignored by the state and federal legislatures as well as the Courts, resulting in Joe Biden and his fellow Hate America collaborators being declared the victors, then the die is cast.

        Continues>>>
        https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/the_hijacking_of_the_2020_election_and_the_hate_america_strategy.html

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        Hard to think of more at stake in the outcome of this election.

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          OriginalSteve

          Yeah id heard rumours of those worthy of Gitmo already being rounded up.

          There is also a distinct possibility of Trump launching a hot wat against China, and use the State of War standing to round up the communists at all levels inside all US govt institutions and companies.

          For the record I dont support violence, I will however highlight that the DOJ appears to be fast tracking re-enabling the use of firing squads for federal capital offebces ( like Treason ).

          I think the decision has been made that China appears to have meddled in the US election and effectively supported the internal communist revolution inside america and released a bioweapon upon the US. Most leaders would say enough is enough.

          I suspect the Donald now that he has just cleaned out the US top military brass, will go to war before Inaugeration…this also allows indefinite suspension of the electoral college votes and a thorough military dealing with the current communist insurgency inside America.

          Its not improbable that a large number of traitors executed in the next 2-3 months.

          If I was Antifa, id be on my way to canada by now…..

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            excellent. The US needs a pogrom. Just use the words “clean up” and Gitmo and you can target whoever you want without trial.

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            Richard C (NZ)

            OSteve, yes, all sorts of scenarios imaginable but it must be remembered (I think) that tyranny can arise just as easily from a lurch to the Left as it can a whiplash to the Right.

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              OriginalSteve

              I would agree. It will depend on the restraint and moral fibre of those making the call.

              Leaf…dont be naughty…the Left are very fond off using the same tactics you describe and have done so many times.

              The US I think is fighting for its very survival, so its going to be a bloody and ugly brawl internally. To stop communism it needs to be utterly crushed, it canmot coexist in the same country as democracy. My perception is that the US has an active communist insurgency trying to topple the govt and install its puppets.

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                Melcavic

                Democracy is tyranny of the majority, that is NOT what the framers wanted, thus the famous words regardless of true by Ben Franlkin a Republic if you can keep it.

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                Richard C (NZ)

                >”To stop communism it needs to be utterly crushed, it canmot coexist in the same country as democracy”

                Equally there exists a dichotomy in the Totalitarian sphere.

                1930s Germany produced both Fascism and Marxist-Communist opposition (Anti-fascism or Antifa). Both being Totalitarian they could not coexist. The ensuing Nazi-Soviet war was brutal.

                The modern Antifa flag is exactly the same as 1930s Antifa – circle and red and black flags”

                Antifa flag 1930s – Present
                https://www.democracynow.org/images/story/47/38047/full_hd/S3_antifa-flag.jpg

                Point being: it’s a 3-way fight – not 2-way. That was the nature of WWII just that the West and Soviets were very uncomfortable allies – until they came together in Berlin.

                Similarly President Tito was a “National Communist” allied with the West against the Nazis and whose regime is estimated to have killed 500,000 people:

                ‘Statistics Of Yugoslavia’s Democide Estimates, Calculations, And Sources’
                https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP9.HTM

                That got dicey in Trieste (from article below):

                “A New Zealand tank crew chats with Yugoslav partisans in the Italian city of Trieste, circa May 1945. The 2nd New Zealand Division had linked up with units from Marshal Josip Tito’s National Liberation Army in the city on 1 May 1945, the day before German forces in Italy surrendered. A tense stand-off quickly developed as the Yugoslavs sought to occupy Trieste. New Zealand troops stood firm and the communist-led partisans withdrew from the city the following month.”

                ‘NZ soldiers and Yugoslav partisans’
                https://nzhistory.govt.nz/media/photo/nz-soldiers-and-yugoslavian-partisans

                The race up the east of Italy to Trieste was vital, and costly. The people of Trieste have not forgotten the intervention by NZ forces because they faced a certain rape and pillage.

                So now what has emerged in the US is again an unappreciated 3-way division: Democrat Socialism/Communism – Democrat+Republican Fascism – Constitutional Loyalists, and no 2 can coexist comfortably for any length of time..

                So whether Biden or Trump win they still have the problem of not being able to coexist in multi-party coalition with either or both of their opposition.

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          Richard C (NZ)

          McCann – “Further, they have on their side a sizable plurality of the population that has been conditioned to believe a malevolent America must be transformed by any means possible, including stealing elections.”

          Murder not out of the question either apparently:

          ‘Over 12,000 tweets are calling for Trump’s assassination. Here’s how the Secret Service handles it
          https://mashable.com/article/threatening-posts-secret-service/

          ‘US lawmaker Chappelle-Nadal’s Trump assassination post investigated’
          https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40973209

          I was amazed in the aftermath of the 2016 election by videos from the streets of NYC of bewildered young women seemingly either teenagers or early 20s asking, without a hint of natural human abhorrence – “why doesn’t someone assassinate Trump?”

          It was then that I realized that the cultural/spiritual/ethical/moral decline and fall of the heart mind and soul of US Leftist urban youth was complete.

          Coupled with their hypocritical pro-choice death-cult bent that violently supports BLM but ignores eugenicist Margaret Sanger’s Planned Parenthood exterminating 19+ million black babies since 1973, they are totally immersed.

          When a mind and value set is unconstrained by the standard of the sanctity of human life then there is no further constraint that I can think of. And no value either.

          Trump recognized the decay:

          President Donald J. Trump Proclaims January 22, 2018, as National Sanctity of Human Life Day
          https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/president-donald-j-trump-proclaims-january-22-2018-national-sanctity-human-life-day/

          It’s a very wide gulf separating these US mindsets – Biden will never “unite” them.

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            Kalm Keith

            A good summary.
            When the shenanigans of the BLM rioters are barely touched on by the woke establishment there is little hope of a decent life in America; unless there’s a serious reckoning and establishment of codes of conduct that value decent behaviour in all levels of society.

            KK

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        Richard C (NZ)

        >”So whether the future of USA, and by trickle down, the rest of what is left of the free world, is freedom and liberty or subjection and imprisonment…..”

        Julian Assange of course is in the throes of the second part of the latter. Edward Snowden similarly.

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      Glen Livingston

      Perhaps Trump could write a book about the whole affair. Suggested title “The Art of the Steal”

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      M Seward

      I think the Krak Pot awakes is closer to the truth.

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    Thanks again Jo.
    The mainstream media completely fails us. Increasing numbers of my friends say they have no trust at all in the media and what they put out. The ABC,much of the commercial news here and all the US news networks are virtually wall to wall propaganda.

    I have written again to my Federal Member and the Communications minister over the ABC and call my Federal Members office to followup. It sounds trite but if everybody who read this column did the same to ask why we have an ABC totally incapable of accurately reporting on the Trump and a host of other situations then we have a chance of something happening. But if we do nothing then nothing will happen.

    Scott Morrison and his govt are attempting to stand up to China but on the ABC no stand at all.

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      GD

      if everybody who reads this column did the same to ask why we have an ABC totally incapable of accurately reporting on Trump and a host of other situations then we have a chance of something happening

      I doubt it, Aussie. The fix is already in and has been for years.

      Emails to the ABC and the Communications minister(s) are ignored and have been for at least twenty years. They simply aren’t listening, because they know they’re a protected species. No government would dare defund or remove them.

      The only circuit breaker could be Trump winning the US election (he already has). That will put the cat among the pigeons, and then there will be opportunities to fight back.

      If Biden manages to steal the election, all hope is lost, and it will take some very courageous and strong people to effect any change to the new socialist status quo.

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        PeterS

        As many have stated, Trump is the last hope for the West to evade being crushed by socialistic tendencies. I actually never had the view Trump would be able to defeat them anyway. The tide against the West is too large, and virtually all of it is coming from within, much like a 5th column. The MSM and social media tycoons have too much power and there is nothing Trump can do about it without himself becoming a dictator of sorts. It’s just the way it is. As you correctly stated “our” ABC is a protected species. There’s only one scenario that can possibly play out. Things get so bad for the West that prior to getting to the point of crashing and burning, the people finally wake up and do something about it en mass. We shall see.

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          GD

          I agree, PeterS, the crash and burn scenario is, unfortunately, the most probable option if we are to see a change from this insidious move to socialism and all things left.

          Add to that the global insistence that anthropogenic CO2 is a pollutant and must be taxed to fund the new world order, it doesn’t bode well for conservatives and free-thinkers.

          Hopefully, we can withstand the assault from the communists (because that is what they are) and avoid the total lockdown (sound familiar) of democratic society.

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            Mark D.

            By “burn” do you mean RESET? Cause they are now openly talking about it.

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              PeterS

              Perhaps. However, I suspect there will be two resets. The one that’s already planned and openly described, and another after the crash and burn. The second one will be the draconian NWO fully implemented, not because it will be trusted upon us but because people in general will welcome it to “solve” the terrible things unleashed.

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              Richard C (NZ)

              >”By “burn” do you mean RESET? Cause they are now openly talking about it.”

              Great Reset
              Green New Deal
              Build Back Better
              Dark Winter

              Huh? Dark Winter you ask….

              “Dark Winter” Was A CSIS Scenario Code-Name Covering Biological Weapon Use Against America
              https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dark-winter-was-csis-scenario-code-name-covering-biological-weapon-use-against-america

              “Joe Biden warned at Thursday night’s presidential debate that the U.S. was “about to go into a dark winter,” echoing the concerns of public health experts who caution about increased daily Covid-19 case counts converging with the annual flu season.

              “We’re about to go into a dark winter. A dark winter,” Biden said. “And he has no clear plan, and there’s no prospect that there’s going to be a vaccine available for the majority of the American people before the middle of next year.” ”

              And then he started using the phrase over and over again on the campaign trail and he kept using it even after the voting was over.

              For example, here is an instance where he used the phrase on the Monday after the election…

              “Joe Biden on Monday warned that a “very dark winter” is approaching as the U.S. coronavirus case count nears 10 million.

              “There is a need for bold action to fight this pandemic,” Biden said in Delaware. “We’re still facing a very dark winter.” ”

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              Gottit? Dark Winter – don’t forget it.

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          el gordo

          ‘ … getting to the point of crashing and burning, the people finally wake up and do something about it en mass.’

          We want a revolution and we want it now.

          It won’t happen comrade, the people of western democracies are undisciplined and couldn’t organise a raffle.

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            PeterS

            That’s what I said, you need to read with both eyes open. It won’t happen until things become so desperate they will do something about it out of desperation, unless people by then are completely brain dead, which is a possibility.

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            Louise

            Holy moley EG, that article on WUWT isn’t just a dark winter but about sending the US hurtling towards a dark ages, and following in its wake the rest of the west.

            I can’t quite conceive that there are those who either that stupid or care so little,even about their own children, that they would set in motion a course of action that can only lead to a dystopian nightmare. Mass deprivation and destitution.

            I know CC is a cult, but seriously?

            Having said that, I do remember the hair on the back of my neck standing on end when I listened to a Soros interview. A billionaire psychopath, no doubt about it. He gets off on meddling and creating destruction of social systems/countries and all the chaos and hardship that follows. A God complex, only it’s evil. So much money and bored, he plays games with masses of lives for fun. He and his NGOs are banned from many countries for a reason.

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            Saighdear

            Aye indeed: We say ‘they couldna organise a pissup in a Brewery’ and then there’s the hegomony within the country: They who pay me call my tune. How did Man ever progress from the Dark ages ? Was it Man, or a Society – which is now waring thin as it stretches out….

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        DonA

        You know that he means Australian Broadcasting Commission (sic)? – ABC

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      truth

      Unfortunately Aussie…it’s not only the ABC.

      Sky Daytime as well as the ABC has censored out over the last four years almost all of the information on the war declared on Trump by the Democrats and all the horrors of the four year long siege against his presidency…the attempted takedown of Judge Kavanaugh…the attempt to criminalize him and destroy the life of his family for the foreseeable future simply because he was nominated by Trump and stands in the way of their ongoing attempts to take over the Supreme Court for Left Wing political activism ….as the lower courts have already been corrupted.

      SKY daytime [except for Outsiders]… is pretty much given over to censorship IMO…sifting and moulding information Australians get…..discarding facts to ensure the indoctrination continues unfettered by truth…by choosing Marxist/Socialists as their resident ‘experts’ on all the big issues….US politics and CAGW ..pitting the Marxists only against LNP Left Wets who belong in the camp of the Marxists anyway and have no inclination to question the diktat.

      Australians who don’t have Foxtel and don’t watch FOX NEWS and the Democrat networks CNN etc for themselves and wouldn’t go near the reviled SKY After Dark don’t know anything about detail of the war on Trump and the extreme lengths the Democrats are capable of over the last 4 years …and if told about it they scream ‘conspiracy theorist’ and parrot the CNN view fed to them by ABC/SKY.

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    BC

    Evidence missing and ballots dealt with in a way that makes a recount meaningless: this GOP observer explains how it happened:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3WK0M4S_Qw
    An extract from the explanatory text:

    A Republican poll observer from Pennsylvania’s Delaware County told a Senate GOP Policy Committee hearing in Gettysburg on Nov. 25 that he witnessed a range of Election Day irregularities, including 47 USB cards that went missing.
    Greg Stenstrom, who, besides being a poll watcher, said he’s an expert in security fraud, told the hearing that he witnessed a number of chain-of-custody violations, including around mail-in ballots, the balance of votes from drop boxes, and the handling of USB card flash drives—all of which he said broke rules defined by the Delaware County Board of Elections and the election process review.

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    Lightweight General McInerney is an old geezer crackpot.

    I would only trust Michael Flynn because Obama hated him. He has had lying issues in the past and got fired for that reason.

    The Lightweight general’s Hammer and Scorecard fantasy is a hoax from ONE PERSON, with no evidence: A military contractor and con man named Dennis Montgomery. he has been caught instigating hoaxes more than once. His credibility is zero. Or maybe below zero.

    McInerney sounds dim witted in an interview I listened to, or at least is showing his advanced 83+ year age.

    This is nonsense with no evidence.

    The Dumbocraps have their “The Russians did it” nonsense.

    Now the Repooplicans have their “The CIA did it” nonsense.

    I know nonsense when I hear it.

    The Hammer and Scorecard belief is why Sidney Powell is no longer on the Trump legal team.

    It’s over folks.

    Biden won.

    Most likely by election fraud, but it’s too late to stop the “Dumbocrat train”
    … unless people are punished for November 2020 election fraud to reduce the incentive for even more fraud in the Georgia January 2021 Senate runoff.

    If no one is punished before early January 2021, for November 3, 2020 election fraud, then dead people will be voting TWICE or THREE times for the Democrap Senators in Georgia, instead of the usual once.

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      crakar24

      Lightweight General McInerney is an old geezer crackpot.

      I would only trust Michael Flynn because Obama hated him. He has had lying issues in the past and got fired for that reason.

      The Lightweight general’s Hammer and Scorecard fantasy is a hoax from ONE PERSON, with no evidence: A military contractor and con man named Dennis Montgomery. he has been caught instigating hoaxes more than once. His credibility is zero. Or maybe below zero.

      McInerney sounds dim witted in an interview I listened to, or at least is showing his advanced 83+ year age.

      This is nonsense with no evidence.

      The Dumbocraps have their “The Russians did it” nonsense.

      Now the Repooplicans have their “The CIA did it” nonsense.

      I know nonsense when I hear it.

      The Hammer and Scorecard belief is why Sidney Powell is no longer on the Trump legal team.

      It’s over folks.

      Biden won.

      Most likely by election fraud, but it’s too late to stop the “Dumbocrat train”
      … unless people are punished for November 2020 election fraud to reduce the incentive for even more fraud in the Georgia January 2021 Senate runoff.

      If no one is punished before early January 2021, for November 3, 2020 election fraud, then dead people will be voting TWICE or THREE times for the Democrap Senators in Georgia, instead of the usual once.

      THIS CLAIM ABOUT ELECTION FAIRNESS IS DISPUTED

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        GD

        I didn’t even think he was a very good president

        What didn’t you like about:

        the return of manufacturing to the US
        highest ever employment for blacks and hispanics
        The USA energy independent

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          GD
          You may be sorry you asked !

          There is no significant trend of manufacturing jobs returning to the US

          Employment goes up with population growth thanks to the private sector.
          That happened under Obama too.

          The black unemployment rate did set a new low record, and that had been tracked since 1972

          The Hispanic unemployment rate also set a new low record, but that was only tracked from either 2007, or 2008, so the starting point was during a recession — so this statistic does not mean as much.

          The USA is NOT energy independent — we still import oil.

          The “trade deal” with China was a total failure.
          Trump made American companies pay tariffs
          Got nothing in return.

          The whatever deal with North Korea was a total failure.
          Who in their right mind would trust North Korea?

          The US ? Mexico wall is no where near close to completer.

          Federal spending as a percentage of GDP is at post-WWII record, and was very high before the pandemic

          Federal budget deficits were very high, even before the pandemic, and are now at post WWII records.

          Trump did almost nothing to stop rioting in cities.

          Trump did beat t up ISIS, which was very good.

          Trump is also an obnoxious blabbermouth. I don’t mind him insulting Democrats, but he spends way too much time exaggerating “his” accomplishments. He is unable to build a loyal team to back him. They leave government service and then write nasty books about him.

          The US is a mess in 2020, with less personal freedom than ever before.
          Trump is president.
          So it’s his fault.
          It’s too late to blame Obama.

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          Mark D.

          Add: mostly historic peace in the Middle East, and Korea, border integrity, balance of trade with China, bailing on NAFTA. Oh there is more but Gee Aye, Ian, Neo etc will not see the truth here will they?

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            Gary Simpson

            No sane person can deny that releasing the U.S. from the restrictive tentacles of the Paris agreement was a bad thing, can they?

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            What about… which means you agree with everything he said.

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            Hey Gary Simpson
            The Paris Accord was voluntary
            No punishment for missing CO2 targets

            You can virtue signal and accomplish nothing.

            No penalties.

            You could refuse to contribute to the Green Slush Fund – no penalties for that either.

            Stupid Obama wasted one billion dollars on that slush fund.

            Trump did not get the EPA’s Endangerment Finding reversed.

            So CO2 is STILL CONSIDERED to be a pollutant. The staff of almost all life on our planet is NOT a pollutant. This was a BIG failure of the Trump Administration. No progress in convincing more American people that the “coming climate crisis” is a fairy tale, designed by leftists to scare people, and control them.

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              PeterS

              Yes Trump failed to convince the vast majority of Americans that the CAGW story is a myth. However, our PM Morrison did one worse. He actually supports the myth by maintaining the need to stay with the Paris Agreement, and for us to reduce our emissions and keep doing it. Trump was alone at signalling to the world his thoughts on the CAGW scam. Other leaders like our PM Morrison abandoned him. That makes them traitors to the our belief here that CAGW is a myth.

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              Gary Simpson

              It was a psychological success – messing with their minds.

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            Oh there is more but Gee Aye, Ian, Neo etc will not see the truth here will they?

            Finally you get what I have been trying to explain. None of us have seen it here.

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          markx

          What didn’t you like about:

          the return of manufacturing to the US
          highest ever employment for blacks and hispanics
          The USA energy independent

          Trump is on the right track with manufacturing, but does not get all the credit. There is a straight line increase in US manufacturing employment from the start of 2010 until 2020 (hey, credit to him, he didn’t derail the ongoing gains!), But then came the COVID 19 crisis; when there was an immediate loss of 1.5 million jobs, (ie, back to the start of 2010 levels) since bouncing back by a half million job rebound (back to 2014 levels).
          Whether or not you think Trump can be held responsible for the COVID mis-management is and has been a matter for discussion.

          (See Figure B)
          https://www.epi.org/publication/reshoring-manufacturing-jobs/

          Employment charts follow the same straight line improvement, also from 2010. (Again, he gets credit for not stuffing it up).

          US energy independence: Yes, give credit to Donald Trump there.

          But, his divisiveness, hate mongering, pandering to extreme groups both right wing and religious, propensity for nepotism, disregard of facts, expertise and truth, incredible focus on media ratings, complete disregard for any form of reporting other than personal praise for him, valuing only personal loyalty and absolutely no other positive trait in appointments …. all make him an awful president, with a huge risk of him becoming a dictator. (The latter situation some in here would applaud, until about 10 years down the track when they fully realized what had happened).

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            Analitik

            So “orange man bad”

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              Analitik
              Trump gave us Biden and Harris, and Democrats continue to control the House. With enough election fraud in Georgia, Democrats will control the Senate too. That’s not good.

              Trump had 95% of the media, every Democrat, and some Republicans,against him. With the Senate filibuster rule still in effect, the Democrat minority in the Senate could block anything for all four Trump years.

              Trump inherited a decent economy from Obama and is leaving with a weak economy (which happened on his watch, even if not his fault.

              Obama was lucky to take office near the trough of a serious recession — he could have played golf for four years, and the economy would have improved while he was having fun.

              Trump had a lot of good intentions but losing an election means every one of his executive orders can be reversed by Biden.

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                Analitik

                Trump inherited a decent economy from Obama and is leaving with a weak economy (which happened on his watch, even if not his fault.

                Obama was lucky to take office near the trough of a serious recession — he could have played golf for four years, and the economy would have improved while he was having fun.

                Actually, the US (and global) economy under Obama and Trump has been steadily weakening but the effect is not immediately apparent because the massive money printing by the central banks has masked the equally massive debt that has been building since the 2007 GFC and the games that they play with the basket of goods used to define inflation.

                Trump’s biggest failing (even beyond not going through with his promise to “lock her up”) was to pivot from recognising and stating that the US economy was “in a big, fat, ugly bubble” during the 2016 Presidential debates to taking the stock market as the indicator of the general state of the “greatest economy, ever” and owning it as his achievement, once he took office. He went from being a vocal critic of the ultra low interest rate and Quantitative Easing policies of The Fed to demanding more of the same to fuel the same bubble he criticized in October 2016 due to his narcissism.

                The CoViD-19 outbreak has been his undoing since the lockdowns and other disruptions have hurt businesses (and hence individuals) across the country despite the fiscal relief that has kept the stock market elevated. This gave the Democrats a prime opportunity to attack him in a period where he couldn’t effectively respond. If he had taken the hard route back in 2017 and forced a Vockler style tightening of monetary policy, then the stock market would have crashed immediately with ensuing pain across the economy but then there would have been plenty of time for a true recovery to get underway and the effect of the CoViD-19 outbreak on the health of businesses would most likely have ben far less. Certainly, the inequality of wealth would be far less if the stock market had been crashed, taking down debt ridden zombie companies with their massively compensated CEO’s and other upper management with them which would then have greatly reduced the disparity that has fueled the BLM and new age socialist movements.

                Here’s an article from Bloomberg, of all places, stating that the economy did improve under Trump (although it totally ignores the purchase power dilution effect when comparing household incomes)
                https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-10-30/trump-s-economy-really-was-better-than-obama-s

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                Lucky

                Obama said re Trump intending to create jobs-
                Those jobs have gone, what are you going to do, wave a magic wand?

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            truth

            Trump’s divisiveness? How ridiculous …you must think the world is stupid in light of the facts…

            ….. that the Clinton campaign and their FBI and CIA facilitators went to extreme lengths to try to sink the Trump campaign before the 2016 election with their Russian collusion to confect their dirty dossier.

            …that the Obama administration and the Dems virtually declared war on Trump… the minute he was elected…and relentlessly carried out the pogrom for the next four years without giving him a chance to draw breath.

            …that the DEMs and their Deep State and MSM faction even used Australian and British diplomats and former spies along with the Dems own Russian collaborators to attack Trump and keep him under assault for every moment of his Presidency..

            ….that Trump did more prison reform in his term …under total siege than any other POTUS in history..

            …that he funded black colleges as never before while Biden just told blatant lies …that he was an alumnus of a black college

            ….that Trump established the Platinum program to help black entrepreneurship…

            …that Trump cleaned up the terrible bottlenecks in veterans care left by Obama …where veterans died waiting for medical treatment

            ….Trump’s cutting of red and green tape hugely lifted manufacturing and all entrepreneurship

            …..increases in spending were due to the fact that the Democrats tacked their huge hand-out pet projects onto every bill Trump tried to get through…

            …so divisive were the DEMS that they even prevented him from doing the DACA mitigation

            …so divisive are the Dems that Obama’s going around the country right now lying that the ‘cages’ that the whole world saw him deploy…during his administration…and the world knows as we watched the Dems incite Americans to express hatred vs Trump by forcing Trump-supporters and officials out of stores…restaurants etc…when…ever….have Republican congress members incited such hate.

            …divisive ? No Trump supporter tried to assassinate multiple members of congress as a Bernie supporter did..

            …pandering to extreme groups? Trump tried to quell the violence and mayhem that saw Trump supporters murdered in cold blood by the extreme LW BLM and Antifa supporters…and was prevented from stopping the war on law-abiding Americans by LW mayors and governors in lawless Democrat States and cities…as the world watched cities burn and black business people lose their life’s work in a few hours of LW madness each night ….for months.

            Of course Trump blows his own trumpet because no one gives him credit for anything …like you the Left lie through their teeth about him…attribute their own failures and horrors to him…no lie is too big for them and they’ve now installed a serial liar and plagiarist who’s building a family dynasty of ill-gotten wealth from his Communist Chinese comrades….in a stolen election.

            ‘Huge risk of becoming a dictator’? What a sick joke.

            Those aspiring to be dictators are your Democrats …the ‘Progressive’ herders of people…those who corral their black and other minorities in voting blocs …bus them to polling booths to make sure they do their duty….keep them docile and dependent forever with hand outs …keep them uneducated and therefore compliant ….those who plan to sell America out to the Global Socialists for the Great Reset that will help the Chinese Communist dictatorship that’s a modern-day slave-owner…to leapfrog over America and the democracies….your Democrats are the ones who are gleefully signing America up for suicide as a dominant power and relevant nation…to pander to foreign wannabe dictators who say you’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy with that.

            The Democrats think they’ll be the elite …those ‘more equal than others’…. in their new Global Socialist world order….the ultimate dictatorship…but in the end they’ll just be more fodder for the Communist masters they’ve chosen to facilitate.

            Trump is the antithesis of a dictator…believes in getting the settings right so the American people can build businesses and lives and thrive as they always do when relieved of the heavy hand 0f Democrat Big Government messing in every corner of their lives.
            Trump handled COVID pretty near perfectly according to the protocols for handling a pandemic laid down by the late Dr Donald Henderson .. ..the eradicator of smallpox….but America…like Australia is a federation and federations are much harder to manage nationally in such a situation…as Morrison found.
            Nevertheless Trump did more that was right than his expert Fauci or any of the CNN et al ‘experts’ did…was more consistent …and his Warp Speed project will go down in history as a truly massive achievement by government in securing and funding cooperation between the medical profession…researchers…military,,,and private business.

            And America has a lower death per million rate for COVID than many European countries that are not federations and had easier populations to handle.

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            GD

            his divisiveness, hate mongering

            An example of Trump’s supposed hate-mongering?

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        crakar24

        i never said the mods are “picking on me” dont make stuff up AD

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      Analitik

      So if the Dominion hack is nonsense, then just how did the Democrats manage the massive level of fraud needed to oust Trump in the key states for the Presidency?

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        Analgesic
        Here in Michigan we commit election fraud the good old fashioned way:

        We get the dead vote in.

        We get the illegal alien vote in.

        We throw out some Trump ballots.

        We fix “mistakes” on Biden ballots.

        After midnight, we eject the Republican ballot watchers in Detroit from the counting area, cover the windows with paper, and then feed batches of Detroit ballots (85% to 95% pro-Biden, I assume) through the tabulating machines a few times.

        Then we bring in 100,000 freshly printed ballots with only the Biden circle filled in perfectly, as if done at a print shop. One clue of that is on the bottom right of those fake ballots, in print so small that it can not be seen by the naked eye: “Big Tony’s Print Shop”

        The only mistake was that, in Michigan, voting only for Biden would be very unusual.

        A few inches away you could fill in just one circle and vote for EVERY Democrat, including Biden.

        Same effort.

        One mark on a ballot.

        Probably a common voting pattern in Detroit. Guess our ballot forgers were not too bright.

        We don’t need to fix no stinkin’ confuser fraud to win an election here in Michigan.

        Confusers are too complicated. The programmer might make a mistake and then Trump wins.

        No sir, we fix the vote the good old fashioned way here in Michigan.

        It worked for decades before getting fooled by a slight mis-calculation in 2016, that allowed Trump to win Michigan. … And it just worked again.

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          crakar24

          Perhaps we should call you Stinky smelly Richard Gangreene as you dont seem to be able to spell other peoples names correctly

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          Analitik

          It seems that doing it the “good old fashioned way” on such a scale and in such a widespread manner should be far easier find evidence for and to prove in court than via the new fangled vote machine hacking.

          But hey, Porque no los dos?

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        Ian

        “then just how did the Democrats manage the massive level of fraud needed to oust Trump in the key states for the Presidency?”

        The simple explanation is that they didn’t.

        Despite all the crackpottery being spread by Trump, his campaign team and websites that uncritically support him, there is no unequivocal evidence of malfeasance in the conduct of this election. As yet all claims that there is evidence have failed to produce said evidence and the courts have certainly made it plain that, to date, there have seen no evidence to support these various claims.

        Recounts it is true have shown a few human errors but none have a significant effect on the outcome and in fact one count increased Biden’s total slightly more than it increased Trump’s. I doubt that was an outcome the Republicans relished.

        Comments here suggest the two Generals are less than highly regarded and that what they say is best taken with, a large, pinch of salt.

        Trump has done America no favours, for whatever the final outcome, a very large proportion of the public will be dissatisfied and could well show their dissatisfaction by taking to the streets. Is that an outcome any thinking person would regard as desirable?

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          Neil Crafter

          you mean like the Antifa and BLM clowns who have already taken their grievances to the street?

          And there was no fraud in the election apparently. Thanks for putting my mind to rest. I was wondering how Biden could manage 130,000 votes to nil at 4am. But just good luck.

          I have a bridge for sale if you’re interested.

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            Ian

            If you believe that Biden scored 130,000 votes at 4 am you won’t get far selling bridges as you’ll rapidly be recognised as someone who believes in fairies at the bottom of the garden.

            The reality is Mr. Biden didn’t receive those votes. They were briefly added to his unofficial totals on an election map because of a typo in a small Michigan county that was caught and corrected in roughly half an hour.

            “All it was is there was an extra zero that got typed in,” said Abigail Bowen, the elections clerk in Shiawassee County in Michigan, just northwest of Detroit. “It was caught quickly,” she added. “That’s why we have these checks and balances.”

            When Ms. Bowen and her team sent the county’s unofficial vote counts to Michigan officials early Wednesday, they accidentally reported Mr. Biden’s tally as 153,710, when it should have been 15,371, she said. About 20 minutes later, she said a state elections official called her to ask if the number was a typo; Shiawassee County doesn’t even have that many residents.”

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              those numbers that are sent to the media are like a press release about the real data. They are not the real data. And yet there are people all across the nation dissecting the newsfeed data while muttering, “fraud, I must find fraud. Brains, I must find…”

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                and I pointed this out 3 weeks ago including on this blog. And this same “data”, oft debunked, still gets aired. It says a lot about how good any new evidence has been if this is still a highlight.

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                Kalm Keith

                I agree;
                the discrepancy was only in the order of 138,000 votes, nothing in the scheme of things.

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                you read the above? you understand the difference between official poll numbers and a media feed?

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                RickWill

                The Dominion machines provide the votes to 3 decimal places so they have to be accurate. The NYT feed only had whole numbers so there was some rounding going on because the number were not as accurate as the machines were producing.

                If I was voting in the election, I would hop that my vote was one of the big ones rather than on of the 0.001 votes.

                It would be an interesting dilemma if any of the candidates won by a fractional vote. It appears that the Dominion voting machines create that possibility.

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              OriginalSteve

              Personally…im going to wait for the computer forensics to be presented in court.

              Data wont lie.

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                MP

                I am interested in that bridge, the last one I purchased did not show up.

                Got photos.

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                Saighdear

                Data won’t Lie ? No, maybe not, BUT it is the interpretation of it and how it is measured. F.Y.I. 2 used Stanley Tape-rules don’t always give the same measurement, each in the hand of an experienced Carpenter. so Don’t mix and match.

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        sophocles

        I have a bridge for sale if you’re interested.

        No thanks. I’ve heard about these cheap one-way bridges.

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    Peter Fitzroy

    Trump, in a interview has said that he will move out of the white house once the electoral college votes. And that vote will go Biden’s way. None of the recounts, none of the court cases have changed the result, and now with. most of the certifications done, none will.

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      crakar24

      Perhaps you are right Peter, do what everyone else is doing and stock up on pop corn because i think there is much more excitement to come 🙂

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        Peter C

        I agree crakar24.

        So far the evidence for the Frankfurt server raid comes from the WVW interview by generals McInerney and Flynn and an earlier limited disclosure by rep Louie Gohmert.

        Those three people seem credible and sufficiently connected to have some knowledge of things. So I am assuming the story is true, so far.

        What else is happening? The servers are being examined presumably. What about the staff at the Franfurt consulate? Where are they and why aren’t they talking? Because they they are locked up somewhere. Possible Guantanimo.

        Where are Gina Haskell, John Brennen, James Comey etc? They like to talk to the media.
        Where is William Barr?
        The MSM is unusually quiet. I expected a barrage of articles disparaging the Frankurt server story, but so far, nothing!

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          Greg Cavanagh

          If you search the internet for more sources, you’ll find heaps.

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            Ian

            If you search the internet for anything you can always find what you want. But what you find can often be far from the truth.

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              Mark D.

              Very wise Ian, but then what and where do you find your “truth”?

              Oh, and how do you know?

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                Ian

                Best way is to go to several different sources that are generally considered as being reliable like Fox News, WSJ, NYPost and see if their stories tally

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              Greg Cavanagh

              I was addressing Peter C’s comment “So far the evidence for the Frankfurt server raid comes from the WVW interview by generals McInerney and Flynn…”.

              Which isn’t true, there are many other articles from MSM sources and others.

              The contents may be suspect, but I’m convinced the event happened.

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                by what? It is one of the dumbest fabrications by people already going to extremes to find anything to support their theories.

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                sophocles

                Let us just wait, GA. I know you’re like Peter Fitzroy (two fish from the same barrel) and get a severe case of the fidgets when you have to wait. But it isn’t 20th Jan 2021 yet.

                I’ve got my popcorn — you had better go get yours while there is still some left.
                PeterC and Crakar24 are quite right: the best and most exciting bits are yet to come.

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                yeah it was all planned. I geddit.

                In the meantime keep those fuzzy photos coming.

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                Peter Fitzroy

                sophocles – I was told that you were one of the more astute commentators on this site, but still. Firstly do you have anything concrete to say, apart from a drive by insult. FYI – in the interview, Trump said that he would leave when the electoral college votes, which is in 2 weeks. But keep up the trolling, if that’s all you’ve got.

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                OriginalSteve

                Fitzroy…..youre back…

                I think the chances of the EC not voting is high.

                If we have a hot war with the CCP ( not the chinese people ) then expect a huge round up of communist insurgents within the US under state of war, and filling Gitmo very soon, if it hasnt started already.

                I notice Bidet was walking with a limp…reminds me of the punishments handed out by the Provos in Ireland….

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                Peter C

                Greg,
                It is true that you can find multiple references on the internet.
                However the disclosure of information seems to come back to the two sources that I mentioned.
                I don’t know where the casualty figures are coming from.

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                Richard C (NZ)

                >”I notice Bidet was walking with a limp…”

                Joggin’ Biden’s hobbled.

                I got the brief on the Biden’s dogs and cat but given previous reports of Biden’s socks I really think a sock update is so much more important at this juncture, in view of recent developments in the region of the ankle.

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                Richard C (NZ)

                >”I notice Bidet was walking with a limp…”

                ‘Biden Twists Ankle While Playing With Psychic Dog’
                https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-twists-ankle-while-playing-psychic-dog

                Hilarious GIF meme Tweets of Kamala Harris from AusTexGent and this from Johann Bark:

                “Lets go with ‘playing with dog’, people will find it charming and relatable”

                Also in this Twitter thread https://twitter.com/CBCKatie/status/1333154004856164352

                Zak Ebrahim – Lol I can *hear* his PR team putting this story together. “Let’s say he was playing with the dog! That aughta get the liberals cooing!”

                And Alphonse Williams – What about Major?????

                Finally, the “Pet Psychic”:

                ‘Joe Biden’s Dogs Have Told This Pet Psychic a Lot About Their Beloved Master, and His Future’
                https://www.thedailybeast.com/joe-bidens-dogs-have-told-this-pet-psychic-a-lot-about-their-beloved-master-and-his-future

                Pet psychic Beth Lee-Crowther says Joe Biden’s dogs, Major and Champ, told her they are excited to live in the White House. They also say their master will be “a great president.”

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          ian hilliar

          Where is Eric Coomer, and where are all the other employees of Dominion?

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        Neo

        “i think there is much more excitement to come ”

        You must be easily exited then crakar24?? For the moment all there has been to see is various assertions (getting more outlandish by the day) made by people who are unable to believe that their candidate failed. Oh, and failed court actions. The denial stage of the grief reaction i think.

        For some strange reason Trump supporters seem to think they had the election in the bag? Now that wasn’t based on polls or data. Just belief and wishful thinking which goes on at every election everywhere. Just getting taken to silly extremes in this instance.

        I mean, when you look at his record, its actually not so implausible that a President like Trump who has focused so much on using his position to promote division, and failed so badly on response to the pandemic, should be a one termer.

        Me, i will have a laugh if the Republicans do somehow manage to delay recognition of Bidens win until Jan 20th. 🙂 Trumps and Pences terms expire and Pelosi becomes acting President. 🙂

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          crakar24

          Trump was so bad and so hated he picked up 14 seats in the house and has held (waiting on Georgia in 21) the senate…………you really do have your finger on the political pulse in the USA Neo

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            Neo

            So you are asserting that Trump takes up 14 seats in the house all on his lonesome?? FGS man, he’s not quite that fat!

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            Ian

            But when voting for Congress voters are not voting for Trump directly. When they do he goes down by around 7 million votes

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              crakar24

              So people thought…..hmmmm i hate trump but i love what republicans have done over the past 4 years so what should i do….i know i will vote for reps in the house and senate but give them no power to do anything by voting for Biden, really Ian?

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        Mike Jonas

        Well, I certainly hope there is more excitement to come. The way things are developing, Joe Biden’s team have a stranglehold on everything, and it is easy to believe that SCOTUS and only SCOTUS can resolve the issue. Joe Biden needs to recognise that if this doesn’t go to SCOTUS then he, Joe Biden, has no legitimacy in the perception of a very large proportion of the Americal people. Does Donald Trump’s team really have the case to prevail in SCOTUS? If we don’t find out the answer from SCOTUS itself then I suspect that there will be a lot of civil disobedience in the USA next year, and possibly beyond. Interesting times.

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          crakar24

          Mike,

          I think we need to understand just what we (and yes i mean we as in everyone) is up against here, this is not just a few democrats with TDS. This is a planned and coordinated attack on democracy.

          Now we could go down the path of the left and burn everything or we could follow the principles that have stood us in good stead for all these years ergo through the courts.

          Unfortunately as JFK once said “when peaceful revolution is impossible, violent revolution is inevitable” I do not believe after everything that has been shown and everything that will be shown the vast majority of Americans will not let this coup stand and violent revolution will begin.

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      Potter Fitzroy:
      Recounts are just a test to see if all the ballots that showed up were fed into the tabulating machines and included in the total. That the hand recount numbers NEVER match always surprises me.

      A recount DOES NOT determine if the ballot came from a person who is alive, lives in the state where he voted, is registered to vote in that state, or is casting one legal vote.

      That’s why recounts are almost always worthless, unless the vote is extremely close.

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        Mark D.

        I agree here Richard, it is unlikely in my mind that the fraud would be easy to find. This is an old Chicago kind of method. Years ago no one cared about Chicago so their method would be ignored.

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      Why not stay let Trump stay in the White House?
      Biden will be living in the basement anyway.
      Every once in a while he can come upstairs sniff Melania’s hair. Hubba Hubba.
      Moderator Bait

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    Richard C (NZ)

    >”There have been no footprints of the CIA, FBI, or the DOJ on the investigative side of national security reviews of the 2020 US Presidential Election according to the interview”

    The FBI has moved but not in the electronic sphere e.g. on DVS and all its internet connections as per the Spiderfoot analysis in the affidavit of the ex “electronic intelligence analyst under 305th Military Intelligence with experiencegathering SAM missile system electronic intelligence” name redacted (see below).

    Odd they haven’t because it was within the DVS system that the most egregious flipping and deletions took place.

    Spiderfoot analysis affidavit
    https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905/gov.uscourts.mied.350905.1.15.pdf

    FBI requests:

    ‘FBI Requests Group’s Election Fraud Data That Shows ‘Hundreds of Thousands’ of Fraudulent Ballots’
    https://100percentfedup.com/report-fbi-requests-groups-election-fraud-data-that-shows-hundreds-of-thousands-of-fraudulent-ballots/

    “Voter Integrity Project leader Matt Braynard revealed that the FBI is asking him for evidence of illegal ballots in the 2020 election”

    “Phil Kline, Director of the Amistad Project, also received a request for information from the FBI.”

    # # #

    BTW. Google seems to be actively suppressing searches for all these vote fraud analyses. I never get the actual analysis at top of list, just refutations and debunks (supposedly) and everything except what i search for.

    Bing on the hand has so far returned every analysis I’ve searched for top of list.

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    Treeman

    Sent from Philadelphia today: 29th November Election Update 2020
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpdAF3frRMY

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      Treeman

      Correction, it was sent from Pennsylvania.

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        Kalm Keith

        An interesting commentary.

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          Brenda Spence

          The author does have a controversial reputation though.

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            Kalm Keith

            Thanks Brenda,
            Looked him up.
            Described as an “ET contactee” which helps locate him on the likely true scale at maybe 15%.

            Obviously, now, trying to give the impression that he was a confidant of people in high places.

            There’s a place for everyone and he’s found his.

            🙂 KK

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    Richard C (NZ)

    Arizona Voter Fraud Witness Army Col. Phil Waldron Confirms Experts Saw Dominion Communicating with Frankfurt on Election Day’
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/arizona-voter-fraud-witness-army-col-phil-waldron-confirms-dominion-communicating-frankfurt-election-day-video/

    ‘Crowd Gasps After AZ Witness Reveals How Easy it is to Hack Dominion Voting Machines, “Your Vote is Not as Secure as Your Venmo Account”’
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/crowd-gasps-az-witness-reveals-easy-hack-dominion-voting-machines-vote-not-secure-venmo-account-video/

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    RossP

    This is a 90 minute video called “Shadowgate” produced by Millie Weaver and put out in September 2020. It covers extensive interviews of two whistle blowers, who worked for years in the cyber “warfare” industry. Very enlightening, not just on the background to the election activities but other areas showing how we all can be influenced to think the way they want us to with the techniques that have been developed.

    https://rumble.com/vaglvx-shadow-gate-full-film-by-millie-weaver-2020.html

    About 5-6 days ago Millie Weaver sent out a tweet saying she had spent 10 days in DC with her whistle blowers and said there was a lot more serious stuff to come out, not all about election fraud. At the time time I thought the use of the words whistle blowers was a bit strange, but I now realise what she was talking about.

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    David Maddison

    It’s undoubtedly a coup. It seems clear what the next move is under the Constitution if a conventional legal remedy can’t be found because the corruption runs so deep.

    The US Declaration of Independence does provide an answer and according to some legal scholars constitutes “natural law” and a body of case law intrinsically incorporated into the body of the US Constitution and why there is the First and Second Amendments as the most powerful Constitutional provisions for “the people” to rid themselves of an unlawful government.

    –That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

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      sophocles

      These little AG’s are counting their unhatched chickens too:

      EXPOSED: Return of Sue-and-Settle: State AGs, DC Swamp Preparing Biggest End-Run in History — “Green New Deal” with No Legislation, No Rulemaking Process, Just a Sweetheart Consent Decree

      Headline post at WUWT (Sunday Nov 30th 2020).

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    Lawrie

    This tragedy reminds me of the reaction of many Germans when confronted by the evidence of the murder of six million Jews by their own Gestapo. Sometimes a crime is so huge it is impossible to comprehend or accept. I do believe that when shown the facts and the evidence many Democrats will be horrified just as Republicans already are. They will not want to be a part of a corrupt team that seemingly wants to change the United States from a free democracy to just another socialist disaster.

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      John R Smith

      I enjoy historical comparisons even though they are precarious.
      I’d like to think that Democrats would want honest elections.
      But I don’t think they care.
      It’s not the love of the great leader that motivates turning a blind eye to crimes in this case, it’s the hatred of DJT.
      They’ve convinced themselves, with great and constant encouragement from the legacy media and the Democratic Party, that DJT is the perpetrator of a Holocaust.
      Moreover that he, his supporters, and America itself, are the beneficiaries of a myriad of historical sins.
      For this, there must be a great cleansing.
      Unfortunately, I personally know people who would look the other if I were ‘taken away’ for my political views.
      Close associates for many years.
      They would not approve, but the would not act to prevent it.
      It would be my own fault.
      They consider the stealing of the election as a moral imperative.
      They have gone mad.
      People go mad sometimes.
      That’s the historical comparison I feel safe in making.

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      PeterS

      Just as was the case for Germany back then the same applies today with the West. Crash and burn before lessons of history are re-discovered (and lost again down the track). I suppose that’s one reason there’s so much sand in the world. Lots of heads.

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      David Maddison

      Just as with the Germans the answer will be “I didn’t know”. It was BS then and even more so now. Despite a censored Internet, there are still islands of free speech like this present one. It is even more inexecusable for people to be ignorant now that it was back then. Even George Soros as a 15/16 year old knew what was going on when he accompanied his Nazi protector/guardian on his rounds confiscating Jewish property (the “happiest days of his life” according to an interview he did).

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        PeterS

        For many they didn’t know because they didn’t want to know. The same applies today. There is more than enough information in the public arena to dispute the various scams and hoaxes, such as CAGW and emissions reductions. People can’t be bothered to think or just don’t give a damn and blindly follow what the social media chatter incestuously about, and what the MSM and our political leaders say with their fake news and forked tongues. Too many people simply are asleep and are more interested in what new “smart” gadget to buy and who to fxxx.

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    OldOzzie

    BIDEN’S CHANCES ARE KRACKEN UP

    Look at the impossible data as proven in Sidney Powell’s suit in the Eastern District of Michigan, Case No. 220-cv-13134 (Exhibit 104):

    The fraud was on such a massive scale that it can no longer be questioned.

    There simply is no way to have even 70% turnout absent ballot-stuffing. But 700+%? Not even CNN and MSNBC can cover for the Marxists on that one.

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      RickWill

      This is the actual affidavit:
      https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905/gov.uscourts.mied.350905.1.14.pdf
      Interesting that it is a locked pdf or image file. Only the court recording at the top is unlocked. RJ Ramsland appears to be switched on.

      Wayne County in Michigan is no longer publicly reporting their data. So he was unable to see if they had better than 100% turnout.

      The affidavit goes on to detail the RCV algorithm (Ranked Choice Voting). This is something that might be detected by observers if they were close enough to see as it requires entering blank forms. The giveaway is the fractional voting. The affidavit has a sample of the fraction votes being fed from Dominion to news outlets. That appears to be a dumb error of a programmer in a rush a bit removed from reality. Under this system, Biden may have won by 0.001 vote or lost by that amount.

      This is compelling. It has to be getting attention. This stuff cannot just be brushed aside. It needs to be answered.

      Bloomberg news has reported the minor Powell win in Georgia.

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        PeterS

        It still can be brushed aside given how far the left have infiltrated the courts and many levels of government. They only need to keep brushing it aside a little longer and all is lost. Of course then the question is will the Trump supporters take it on the chin and do nothing about it. Only time will tell.

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    OldOzzie

    The ‘smartest man in the room’ has joined Sidney Powell’s team

    Professionally, Dr. Kershavarz-Nia has spent his career as a cyber-security engineer. “My experience,” he attests,” spans 35 years performing technical assessment, mathematical modeling, cyber-attack pattern analysis, and security intelligence[.]” I will not belabor the point. Take it as given that Dr. Kershavarz-Nia may know more about cyber-security than anyone else in America.

    So what does the brilliant Dr. Kershavarz-Nia have to say? This:

    1. Hammer and Scorecard is real, not a hoax (as Democrats allege), and both are used to manipulate election outcomes.

    2. Dominion, ES&S, Scytl, and Smartmatic are all vulnerable to fraud and vote manipulation — and the mainstream media reported on these vulnerabilities in the past.

    3. Dominion has been used in other countries to “forge election results.”

    4. Dominion’s corporate structure is deliberately confusing to hide relationships with Venezuela, China, and Cuba.

    5. Dominion machines are easily hackable.

    6. Dominion memory cards with cryptographic key access to the systems were stolen in 2019.

    Although he had no access to the machines, Dr. Kershavarz has looked at available data about the election and the vote results. Based on that information, he concluded

    1. The counts in the disputed states (Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, Nevada, and Georgia) show electronic manipulation.

    2. The simultaneous decision in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, Nevada, and Georgia to pretend to halt counting votes was unprecedented and demonstrated a coordinated effort to collude toward desired results.

    3. One to two percent of votes were forged in Biden’s favor.

    4. Optical scanners were set to accept unverified, un-validated ballots.

    5. The scanners failed to keep records for audits, an outcome that must have been deliberately programmed.

    6. The stolen cryptographic key, which applied to all voting systems, was used to alter vote counts.

    7. The favorable votes pouring in after hours for Biden could not be accounted for by a Democrat preference for mailed in ballots. They demonstrated manipulation. For example, in Pennsylvania, it was physically impossible to feed 400,000 ballots into the machines within 2–3 hours.

    8. Dominion used Chinese parts, and there’s reason to believe that China, Venezuela, Cuba interfered in the election.

    9. There was a Hammer and Scorecard cyber-attack that altered votes in the battleground states, and then forwarded the results to Scytl servers in Frankfurt, Germany, to avoid detection.

    10. The systems failed to produce any auditable results.

    Based on the above findings, Dr. Keshavarz-Nia concluded with “high confidence that the election 2020 data were altered in all battleground states resulting in a [sic] hundreds of thousands of votes that were cast for President Trump to be transferred [sic] to Vice President Biden.”

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      PeterS

      All that remains now us for the SCOTUS to disqualify the election results based on what we discussed before; the probabilistic evidence, if and only if they deem it is sufficient.

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    Richard Ilfeld

    I would expect the usual suspects to say Crackpot! and Nothing to See Here!
    Indeed, I have always considered myself a calm and reasonable person.

    But, it has been proven, with publicly available documents, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Russian disinformation,
    filtered through an ex-MI6 agent hired by the lawfirm of a Democratic candidate for president, infiltertrated into the FBI,
    was used by rogue FBI agents and corrupt Members of the House of Representatives to conduct a two year special prosecutor’s investigation of a
    sitting President, insisting in public to us on national media that they had incontrovertible evidence of Russian collusion while sitting on the
    evidence that not one of the many witnesses they had called could testify to same, and in fact testified to the opposite.

    This was one of many, now on record, abuses: Fast and Furious, a Private Mail Server, Hunter’s laptop…………

    Now we have an election in which, at a bare minimum, the authorities in jurisdictions with statistically improbable results cannot, to date, perform
    the minimally required constitutional task of producing auditable records of signature validated votes.

    Those calling Crackpot! need a label, choose one of three:

    Ideologue.
    Useful Idiot.
    Batshit crazy troll.

    I simply can’t find it in me to believe that anyone who still ask us to blindly defers to government authority (or the moral superiority left) has a defensible intellectual position worthy of consideration by this company. You know who you are.

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    Richard Ilfeld

    Some one looking over my shoulder told me to be nice.
    NO!
    The left are to be treated as Pond Scum.
    For the next four years, should we disagree with their plans for remaking America, and the world
    we should resist (remember that word?) with all our vigor and by any moral means necessary —
    in this we differ from the Pond Scum, for they cancel us, but we don’t cancel them as our arguments are better
    and our cause is just. For perfect expression in the English Language, one can usually go to Shakespeare:

    “The villainy you teach me I will execute, and it shall go hard, but I will better the instruction.”

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    Neo

    Ahhh…bur wot does the ever cryptic Q have to say on all this? Pass the pizza?? 🙂

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    Fuel Filter

    Fabulous job, Jo!!

    One small bone to pic, though…

    “ If so, this would be Military Government forces against Civilian Government forces.”

    You misspelled “Civilian”. Should have been “Republican” or, more accurately, “Trump-supporting”.

    Other than that, ON. THE. MONEY!!!

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    New Chum

    I have read where tech expert Patrick Byrne has been working with Sidney Powell.
    Here is a 20 minute video of him explaining the operation of the voting machines.
    https://www.citizenfreepress.com/column-2/patrick-byrne-with-dave-janda-dissecting-the-electronic-steal/

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    dinn, rob

    NO RAID IN FRANKFURT 2020
    11-13-2020 the company would like to clarify that:
    1) Scytl has NO presence in Frankfurt, Germany
    The U.S. military has not seized anything related to Scytl in Frankfurt, Barcelona or anywhere else. The company does not even have offices in Frankfurt and does not have servers or computers in the German city.
    Servers in Frankfurt were used for a specific project for the European Parliament in 2019. These back-up servers were closed in September 2019.
    The technologies implemented by Scytl in the United States are hosted and managed within the United States by our local subsidiary, SOE Software, based in Tampa, Florida.
    The company currently has offices in: Spain, France, Greece, the US, Canada, and Australia.
    Associated Press published on November 14 an article debunking the fake news
    https://www.scytl.com/en/fact-checking-regarding-us-elections-debunking-fake-news/
    ……………….
    11-15-20 Scytl would like to clarify the following:
    The technologies implemented by Scytl in the US are both hosted and managed within the US, by a local subsidiary, SOE Software, based in Tampa, Florida.
    We do not tabulate, tally or count votes in US public elections
    We do not provide voting machines in the US
    We did not provide online voting to US jurisdictions for the US elections
    We do not have servers or offices in Frankfurt
    The US army has not seized anything from Scytl in Barcelona, Frankfurt or anywhere else
    We are not owned by George Soros and have never been connected to him
    We are not tied to Smartmatic, SGO, Dominion or Indra
    We have no ties with Russia either https://scytl.us/scytls-role-in-2020-us-general-election/
    …………………………………………………..
    N o photos. No videos. No eyewitness accounts. No police, military or vandalism records.
    The US Army says it didn’t happen. It doesn’t have the authority to act in such a way, anyway.
    Scytl points out it doesn’t have an office in Frankfurt. It’s based in Barcelona. And that hasn’t been raided, either. https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/truth-about-dominion-scytl-conspiracy-theory/news-story/83b7681cabb44b35ea1c7090f3cd80ac
    ………………………………………………
    7-9-20 BOSTON (AP) — At the behest of the U.S. government, German authorities have seized a computer server that hosted a huge cache of files from scores of U.S. federal, state and local law enforcement agencies obtained in a Houston data breach last month.
    The server was being used by a WikiLeaks-like data transparency collective called Distributed Denial of Secrets to share documents — many tagged “For Official Use Only” — that shed light on U.S. police practices.
    The data, dating back to 1996, include emails, audio and video files and police and FBI intelligence reports. DDoSecrets founder Emma Best said the data, dubbed “BlueLeaks,” comes from more than 200 agencies. It has been stripped of references to sexual assault cases and references to children, but names, phone numbers and emails of police officers were not redacted, said Best, who uses they/their pronouns. Best said that DDoSecrets obtained the data from an outside individual who sympathized with nationwide protests against police killings of unarmed Black people. Some of the files offer insights into the police response to those protests, they said.
    While hacking into computers and stealing data is a federal crime, U.S. courts have consistently ruled that journalists may publish stolen documents as long as they are not involved in their theft. DDoSecrets says it is a journalistic organization that shares documents in the public interest.
    The documents came to light via a breach of Houston web-design company Netsential, which hosts portals for law enforcement agencies and “fusion centers,” state-run operations created after the 9/11 attacks to share threat intelligence with local and state police and private-sector partners.
    The prosecutor’s office in Zwickau, a German city near the Czech border, said in an emailed statement Wednesday that the server was confiscated July 3 in the town of Falkenstein following a request from U.S. authorities.
    The FBI declined to comment. A U.S. Embassy spokesperson in Berlin did not respond to phone calls and emails seeking comment.
    The Zwickau prosecutors’ statement said it would be up to German judicial authorities to decide whether to hand the server over to U.S. authorities. It said it would not disclose the reason for the U.S. request. Neither would a representative of Hetzner Online, the company that hosted the server.
    Best said they assume the seizure was related to the posting of the BlueLeaks documents. They said the files show “a lot of things that are entirely legal and normal and horrifying,” including police surveillance and police intelligence of dubious origin. Best said none were classified.
    The document dump helps expose “the United States’ overdeveloped police intelligence apparatus,” said Brendan McQuade, a criminology professor at the University of Southern Maine who has viewed the documents. The files do not include high-level intelligence but provide a window into the relationship between law enforcement at all levels, he said — one that he believes the FBI doesn’t want the public to see lest it ”add more fuel to the protests” against police brutality and racism in policing.
    Best said the files remain publicly accessible through more complicated means such as BitTorrent and the Tor network, both of which complicate censorship efforts. Best said the organization is now rebuilding its infrastructure for public access. “All they cost us is time,” they said.
    Shortly after DDoSecrets posted the data, Twitter permanently suspended the organization’s account for publishing links and images from the collection, citing a ban on the posting of hacked material.
    One U.S. law enforcement agency affected by the breach is the Iowa Law Enforcement Academy. Its director, Judy Bradshaw, told The Associated Press the breach revealed names of students in academy courses and their drivers licenses, but no financial information.
    She said Netsential had scores of clients in law enforcement, where it was a strong niche provider. Netsential itself confirmed the breach in an undated statement on its bare-bones website and said it was assisting the investigation but would provide no further information “due to the sensitivity of client information.”
    Executives of the National Fusion Centers Association did not respond to emails and phone calls seeking comment on whether any sensitive investigations may have been compromised by the breach. But Maine State Police said in a statement on June 26 that the FBI was investigating and that affected bulletins may “contain identifying information, such as full name and date of birth of people under investigation by other law enforcement agencies.” It said they “may also involve individuals wanted for criminal activity.”
    DDoSecrets was created in late 2018 by Best, a journalist specializing in freedom-of-information petitions. It has worked on various investigations with established media organizations including the German newsmagazine Der Spiegel and the U.S. news organization McClatchy.
    Previous DDoSecrets releases include data on offshore Bahamas accounts used as tax havens, files hacked from Chilean police and data from a British provider of offshore financial services that has drawn comparisons, on a smaller scale, to the 2016 Panama Papers leak. https://apnews.com/article/ab0a5f01a0bcdd4da347ba6763dcab61
    ………..

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      In short, a non existent server was not raided on a company that had nothing to do with election voting machines or tabulation.

      The kraken (v3.2) continues to sleep

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        crakar24

        In short you have two versions of an event, you blindly believe big brother just like you blindly believe BB on AGW rather than form your own opinion and in this case you should remain skeptical until the EO is enacted, assuming it does then you are wrong if not you are right but until then you should phrase your wording accordingly.

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          Ian

          Interesting you advise phrasing your wording accordingly. You are the commenter who believes in shooting the messenger rather than the originator of something with which you disagree

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        OriginalSteve

        All the information points to the said raid.

        The fact that Twerp has suspended thier account is now a badge of honour , and appears youre right over the target….

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        robert rosicka

        Gee Aye do the CIA have servers in Germany ?

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          crakar24

          do you think anyone would know if they did?

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            robert rosicka

            Exactly my point Crackar24, so how would Gee Aye know that no such server exists .

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              Curious George

              A superior intuition. Only the Left has it.

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              Robert… someone just makes something up with no evidence and then anyone who questions it is meant to prove the opposite?

              I’ve been to the moon. Prove me wrong.

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                robert rosicka

                Actually Gee Aye I do sort of agree with you although it’s easy to prove you haven’t been to the moon as your name isn’t on the list .
                It’s only time that will decide the outcome here , is Trump playing a long game ? Is this all made up fairy stories?

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                robert rosicka

                Gee Aye what you describe is the standard operating procedure for climate science .

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          markx

          A very important point.

          There is ALWAYS a server in these stories, and it must be found.

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    BK Tony

    Hey Vince Flynn, is Mitch Rapp working for the President or the CIA on this one ?

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    crakar24

    Witness at AZ hearing

    21 days after the election the dominion machines were tested and they failed, three hours later they tried again and they worked but failed certification, new machines were tested and they also failed certification.

    On election day the signature verification was lowered from 50 points to 3, then to one then nothing. Multiple ballots with identical signatures, Trump votes entered into the machine flips to Biden in front of their eyes many, many times. Witness raises concerns and is then threatened by Democrat officials and on and on and on witness lists damning evidence of voter fraud.

    Trump rings up and says “the world is laughing at us” he is right this is comedy gold, best laugh of have had in a while at just how bad this is.

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    Looking forward to what the Kraken will be tomorrow.

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    Kalm Keith

    Hello (31) re (4).

    Seems to use cagw truthiness to establish some credibility to support the true raison d’etre which is to discredit Trump.

    It’s only a three month contract but every dollar counts.

    With a name like that he’s a bit open to retal’.

    KK

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    RoHa

    I find it difficult to believe that China, Russia, and Iran care enough about who wins the US presidency to actually do anything about it. They know the pres is just a front man for the US Deep State.

    Seems more likely that differing factions in the Deep State are the ones who are pulling this scam.

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    RickWill

    A small win for Powell:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/georgia-ordered-to-file-brief-in-sidney-powell-election-suit/ar-BB1buQSs?fbclid=IwAR36yvudN_qW5-XFx6Ygz8mpv80Bou3vBZpIi7lSH02n68PyDOmqi7wa_D0&_escaped_fragment_=%26c

    U.S. District Judge Timothy Batten in Atlanta gave Kemp and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger until Wednesday to file a brief in response to inspection demands by former Trump campaign lawyer Sidney Powell, who filed a suit alleging Dominion Voting Systems Inc. machines are part of a vast election-rigging scheme involving Democratic-run cities, billionaire George Soros and “communist money” from Venezuela and Cuba.

    There is a court taking the Powell filing seriously.

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    Gbees

    ” It would make a great movie. ” – Hollywood types should never get their hands on the story. Hollywood is a big part of the problem.

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    John in Oz

    An interesting counter argument to ‘we was robbed’ is shown in this US 60 Minutes interview:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzBJJ1sxtEA titled “Fired director of U.S. cyber agency Chris Krebs explains why he says vote was “most secure in Ame…” – truncated on the web site but possibly ‘…American history”.

    As the head of a counter intelligence agency and working for several years with other US agencies (CIA/FBI/NSA/etc) he has high credibility.

    He states quite categorically that the voting tally machines were not hacked/altered in any way, using a manual recount in Georgia as proof.

    He does not explain anomalies such as 6,000 votes moving between candidates nor 100,000 jump votes suddenly appearing for Biden late in the count of one state. Nor does he offer counter arguments against the 000’s of affidavits sworn by people who saw shenanigans going on.

    Who to believe?

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      RickWill

      Producing votes to three decimal places is somewhat concerning. I would be concerned about the veracity of a “voting” machine that divides votes into 1/1000. With such a machine, the winner could be declared with 0.001 vote margin. I would not want to be the 0.001. In fact I would be concerned that my vote did not carry as much weight as another.

      At this stage there is an affidavit stating that the voting information sent out from the machines shows three decimal places. I have not seen any counter to this:
      https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905/gov.uscourts.mied.350905.1.14.pdf
      On page 4 of 6.

      Also getting a 700% voter turn out should deserve an explanation – page 3 of 6.

      Then there is the blank ballot override. I think that needs explaining as well – page 5 of 6.

      The votes to decimal places is not being widely reported. That alone makes the voting machines a joke.

      It could be just incompetence that has produced a voting system using machines that have so many ways of being wrong. Ot it could be deliberate. Whatever the case there are lots of questions raised.

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      truth

      I didn’t find Krebs very convincing in that video.

      I think he may be a Lincoln Project member and therefore hugely predisposed to damage Trump.

      He seemed very keen to present a touchy-feely image of himself as only being worried about the little people …campaign workers etc…and not the ones who’ve signed affidavits in their thousands re irregularities they saw…not the ones physically thrown out when it was their job and Constitutional right to observe the counting…as poll watchers or scrutineers as we call them….only concerned about those he implies are receiving death threats from rampaging Republicans.

      Imagine the outcry here and the scandal it would be here if eg Labor scrutineers were excluded from the counting room.

      He seemed only to want to talk about the recount in Georgia….but not about any irregularities that the affidavits are about…. that would be built in to the recount…eg signatures not matching signatures on the roll…Dem voters allowed to ‘rectify’ their votes….total numbers cast exceeding total numbers eligible to vote…people told someone had already voted in their name etc.

      He’s not worried about himself sez he…only about the fact that he didn’t get to say goodbye to his team.

      It’s not as if anyone died and there are such things as telephones and emails FGS.

      His certainty re the security and infallibility of Dominion and Smartmatic are suss too IMO…since they’ve been called out in a number of countries.

      In some countries Smartmatic allows the voter to vote as many times as he likes but only the last vote is counted…and he may vote in person on the day and that vote will be the only one counted…the others allegedly discarded…..allowing for huge discrepancies and fraud …I would think.

      There was too much pose there for me to think he was anything to the right of a Lincoln Project Trump-hater….and therefore happy to have Trump lose…one way or another.

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      John in OZ

      IMO Comey, Brennan , Clapper et al have destroyed all the credibility there ever was in the intelligence agencies….let alone ‘high credibility’.

      They lied many many times on the Democrat networks …especially CNN…and then finally had to tell the truth…exposing their own lies ….as Democrat Senators like Schiff did when they more recently were all required to testify under oath …when their own miserable backsides were on the line and the penalty for lying was jail.

      IMO no one in the Democrat party or their Fascist cabal…[Fascist because it’s a party that uses communications…corporate and intelligence services and money to gain political power]….least of all Biden…but literally no one ….has any credibility any more at all….and no possibility of ever regaining it….and the world will now be an infinitely more dangerous place.

      IMO the Left has so swamped the world with lies and propaganda about the most important issues of our time….that in the future no one will know what the truth is about anything at all…there will be universal distrust and suspicion….and it may be that no conservative will ever win an election again…here or there…it’s Fabian tactics writ large …meant to turn the rational honest people into slaves and the ‘ends justifies the means…any means’ mob …the masters.

      The Western democracies are being purged of conservative leaders.

      The Left intend to inherit the earth and are well on their way to it via their Long March and the big CAGW lie for Global Socialism.

      The Great Reset mob has spelt it out that they intend for America to no longer be the dominant power in the world…that we will have no possessions and of course no sovereignty….and that we will be happy about it.

      Of course we know the vacuum they leave when they destroy America will be filled by the Communist Chinese dictatorship …possibly in league with the Russian dictatorship.

      Morrison thinks that because he mouths the words and claims to stand up for Australian sovereignty he’s showing strength vs expansionary Communist China….but his compliance with Paris and his unseemly rush to embrace and welcome China’s pick for POTUS say otherwise.

      IMO it’s not just America’s fate that hangs on Trump’s ability to prove election fraud….but Australia’s and the world’s…Australia’s perhaps the most.

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    truth

    In this new post-normal world…why would a reasonable person dismiss the notion that the political party that…

    …colluded with British and Russian spies and former spies…with the highest echelons of the FBI/CIA…to concoct a dirty dossier of lies and propaganda to try to knock Trump out of the 2016 election campaign…

    ….that presented the dirty dossier to the FISA Court ….knowing it was illegitimate….to get the FISA Court to give them the go-ahead to spy on and ruin innocent Americans in order to try to destroy Trump…

    ….that colluded with the FBI to entrap a 3star general …persuaded him he needed no legal counsel so he would be massively vulnerable…in order to ensnare him in a perjury trap….to blackmail him re his family…to do whatever it took to get him jailed….forcing him to spend and lose everything he had on lawyers’ fees after 33 years of military service , including his home…in order to try to stay out of jail.

    ….the party that said within hours of Trump’s election in 2016 …that now they would impeach him

    ….that used the Obama DoJ …Obama himself…Biden…the FBI…..to spy on the new POTUS in his first week in office….

    …the party that set up an elaborate sting to accuse a Supreme Court nominee of having taken part in mass rape and being a serial rapist….

    …that colluded with and used a shady Middle Eastern operator with both Russian and Clinton connections…along with an Israeli diplomat with Clinton connections and his Australian DFAT-employed girlfriend …to persuade a silly and therefore dangerous Australian former diplomat…to set up a meeting in a London bar and ply with drinks a young adviser on the periphery of the Trump campaign.

    The object of the international sting ….to Australia’s eternal shame….was to get the young diplomat Papadopoulos to regurgitate a story he had been recently fed by the nefarious shady characters preying on him….so the confected fairytale would find its way to DFAT who would then feel obliged …or pretend to be obliged…to dob Papadopoulos in to the rogue Democrat FBI and CIA leaders….to give the Democrat/Deep State/ CNN et al cabal …the real Russian colluders their confected pretext to establish their Mueller witch hunt into fictitious Trump/Russia collusion….to destroy Trump…

    …..the party whose would-be candidate for POTUS…Biden….bragged about his Mafia-style ultimatum to the Ukraine President …demanding the President sack the prosecutor who was investigating the oligarch who had employed Hunter Biden at the rate of $1m pa to purchase influence…,,to sack him or else he… Biden… backed by Obama…..would withhold $1billion in American taxpayers’ money….

    ……the party that did that and then impeached Trump for asking that Ukraine be careful re corruption…in the interests of protecting the hard-earned TPM of the American people.

    ….the party whose senior members of Congress incited the rampaging LW mob to go out and attack any Trump officials and supporters they could find….to hunt them down in stores and restaurants ….at school drop-offs which the LW mob dutifully did….even frightening children…..with impunity.
    ….the party that had a Fascist cabal of Big Tech…Big Finance…FBI/CIA…MSM……financing Biden with hundreds of millions of dollars and at the same time crippling the Trump team for Biden’s benefit… by censoring verified information about Hunter Biden’s nefarious pay-for-influence relationships with various Communists …..and Joe Biden’s own very lucrative alleged but very highly-documented personal business relationship with the highest echelons of the Chinese Communist dictatorship….information from several sources …that every American who was voting should have had….and that Joe Biden had/has lied to the American people about…

    ….the party that then insisted that the Federal election allow the mailing-out of unsolicited mail ballots to every American….to be harvested by Democrat apparatchiks and other crazies…that the returned ballots be counted even if signatures didn’t match those on the registration record…even if they were mailed after the cut-off date…..even if their numbers exceeded the numbers of eligible voters….and if they were deficient and were for Biden…but not if they were deficient and Trump votes….. that officials could call the voters in to rectify their vote …..amongst many other scams…..

    Why would anyone dismiss the thought that such a party would stop at absolutely nothing to fix an election?

    How could a reasonable person not think that a party capable of such a four year long siege of corruption and hate…lawbreaking and incitement to violence as that …..would be capable of absolutely anything….no matter how nefarious.

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    Zack Donnelly

    I think far more is going on behind the scene than we can imagine. Trump has never shown the slightest hint of giving up, in fact the momentum is growing fast in his direction both legally (evidenced-based) and across the USA and the world. Trump is not going to concede, and nor should he, he won in a landslide including the popular vote by a wide margin.

    What next? There have been several clues over the past 18 months that Trump was acutely aware of what was going on, the biggest being his National emergency declaration (which is still in play) surrounding Foreign Interference of US elections. https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/

    This has been discussed by many, including General Flynn and Civil rights attorney Leigh Dundas. Watch her Youtube post, its pretty convincing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2MkvWh7poY

    If Biben is successful (which I don’t think he will be for several reasons)then I foresee several things happening, mass risings of civil disobedience, various well-armed militia across the US-backed by many in the police, Home guard, and US Army that will strike key government targets including the media. (some special forces have said they are ready to act and have good numbers) The US civilian population is very well armed and they will defend their constitution, President and religion.

    The raid by US Special forces allegedly recovered servers from the CIA in Germany, Powell eluded to this about a week ago. The evidence must be compelling. Trump is gearing up for an all-out assault on those who were involved in acts of treason against the USA, he certainly has the executive powers, the military, local law enforcement huge public support and the evidence to go after local and foreign actors including the media and big tech.

    Trump knows what is at stake, we are already at war with the left, the complete downfall of US freedoms, democracy the very thing millions of people died to defend. He knows that he and thousands of his supporters will be imprisoned, the Democrats have said as much.

    I can absolutely see the events that are happening in the US spilling across the world, possibly leading to another major world conflict, there is that much at stake. The media will be the targets as they always are during conflicts and war.

    People can’t imagine this could happen in the USA, well it has already begun.

    Trump is playing 4D chess…how and what Trump does will depend on how SCOTUS plays out.

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    Zack Donnelly

    I think far more is going on behind the scene than we can imagine. Trump has never shown the slightest hint of giving up, in fact the momentum is growing fast in his direction both legally (evidenced-based) and across the USA and the world. Trump is not going to concede, and nor should he, he won in a landslide including the popular vote by a wide margin.

    What next? There have been several clues over the past 18 months that Trump was acutely aware of what was going on, the biggest being his National emergency declaration (which is still in play) surrounding Foreign Interference of US elections. https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/

    This has been discussed by many, including General Flynn and Civil rights attorney Leigh Dundas. Watch her Youtube post, its pretty convincing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2MkvWh7poY

    If Biben is successful (which I don’t think he will be for several reasons)then I foresee several things happening, mass risings of civil disobedience, various well-armed militia across the US-backed by many in the police, Home guard, and US Army that will strike key government targets including the media. (some special forces have said they are ready to act and have good numbers) The US civilian population is very well armed and they will defend their constitution, President and religion.

    The raid by US Special forces allegedly recovered servers from the CIA in Germany, Powell eluded to this about a week ago. The evidence must be compelling. Trump is gearing up for an all-out assault on those who were involved in acts of treason against the USA, he certainly has the executive powers, the military, local law enforcement huge public support and the evidence to go after local and foreign actors including the media and big tech.

    Trump knows what is at stake, we are already at war with the left, the complete downfall of US freedoms, democracy the very thing millions of people died to defend. He knows that he and thousands of his supporters will be imprisoned, the Democrats have said as much.

    I can absolutely see the events that are happening in the US spilling across the world, possibly leading to another major world conflict, there is that much at stake. The media will be the targets as they always are during conflicts and war.

    People can’t imagine this could happen in the USA, well it has already begun.

    Trump is playing 4D chess…how and what Trump does will depend on how SCOTUS plays out.

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    Zack Donnelly

    I think far more is going on behind the scene than we can imagine. Trump has never shown the slightest hint of giving up, in fact the momentum is growing fast in his direction both legally (evidenced-based) and across the USA and the world. Trump is not going to concede, and nor should he, he won in a landslide including the popular vote by a wide margin.

    What next? There have been several clues over the past 18 months that Trump was acutely aware of what was going on, the biggest being his National emergency declaration (which is still in play) surrounding Foreign Interference of US elections. https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/

    This has been discussed by many, including General Flynn and Civil rights attorney Leigh Dundas. Watch her Youtube post, its pretty convincing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2MkvWh7poY

    If Biben is successful (which I don’t think he will be for several reasons)then I foresee several things happening, mass risings of civil disobedience, various well-armed militia across the US-backed by many in the police, Home guard, and US Army that will strike key government targets including the media. (some special forces have said they are ready to act and have good numbers) The US civilian population is very well armed and they will defend their constitution, President and religion.

    The raid by US Special forces allegedly recovered servers from the CIA in Germany, Powell eluded to this about a week ago. The evidence must be compelling. Trump is gearing up for an all-out assault on those who were involved in acts of treason against the USA, he certainly has the executive powers, the military, local law enforcement huge public support and the evidence to go after local and foreign actors including the media and big tech.

    Trump knows what is at stake, we are already at war with the left, the complete downfall of US freedoms, democracy the very thing millions of people died to defend. He knows that he and thousands of his supporters will be imprisoned, the Democrats have said as much.

    I can absolutely see the events that are happening in the US spilling across the world, possibly leading to another major world conflict, there is that much at stake. The media will be the targets as they always are during conflicts and war.

    People can’t imagine this could happen in the USA, well it has already begun.

    Trump is playing 4D chess…how and what Trump does will depend on how SCOTUS plays out.

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    OldOzzie

    Nevada: Trump Campaign Says Clark County Registrar Joe Gloria Hiding From Subpoena Service

    Clark County, Nevada Registrar Joe Gloria is hiding from service of a subpoena by the Trump campaign, according to a post by a columnist for the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

    Victor Joecks wrote on Twitter Monday night, “[email protected]’s campaign tells me they’ve been trying to serve Clark County Registrar Joe Gloria with a subpoena since Wednesday. County workers locked the building to keep them out and then Gloria hid in his house all weekend. What are Gloria and Clark County hiding?”

    …”In Clark County, registrar Joe Gloria used a new machine to verity signatures for mail-in ballots. He inexplicably and unilaterally lowered the signature-matching accuracy standard on this machine used to count ballots to 40 percent — well below the manufacturer’s recommended setting. AI and computer-vision experts have said that once the factory setting on the machine is altered, it takes months of effort from a massive team with the appropriate expertise to get it back to a reliable standard.

    There are more than 600,000 mail-ballot signatures statewide, roughly 200,000 of which have gone through this machine in Clark County. Under this system, an unbelievable 99 percent of Clark County ballots have been counted as accurate, with no opportunity for any signatures to be challenged once verified.

    Additionally, the county refused to allow any meaningful observation of signature verification. We simply don’t know how many of these signatures are bad and thus how many improper votes were counted.

    We now know that there are thousands of illegal votes consisting of a combination of dead voters, out-of-state voters, double voters (those who cast ballots in Nevada and another state), among other improper votes. Gloria has said any look he would take at possible problems is complaint-based — in other words, not proactive but reactive in the event a complaint comes in. The same is true of the secretary of state’s office. There’s no mechanism for these votes to be checked if officials aren’t actively poring through these categories of voters where fraud is likely…

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    OldOzzie

    BREAKING: #ArizonaHearing:

    “Are you willing to say under oath, that you’ve seen the connection to the internet, that you’ve seen it gone offshore to Frankfurt, Germany?”

    Col. Waldron: “Yes, our “White” hat hackers, they have that traffic and the packets.”

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    Bonbon

    Finally a site where “the truth” can be whatever I want it to be. No evidence required! Any attempt to request evidence is met with contempt and ever inwardly spiralling conspiracy theories! Perfect. I love it!

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      Kalm Keith

      What you are saying is : “give me a link”.

      That’s the format used by the web activist site Skeptical Skience so it doesn’t augur well for your ability to seek out reality.

      Not that I blame you personally, the main media strands are full of entraining, wokish pieces of highly crafted misinformation: known in some circles as propaganda.
      Thank you ABCCCC.

      In the past year there have been massive “bushfires” which continued to send ash for three months: devastating for everyone.

      The “government”, and I use that term in jest, did the usual and ran a Major Inquiry which brought our “fire commissioners” together to work it all out.

      Their assessment was that more needs to be done to reduce CO2 Emissions and that they should all attend the next meeting of the World Economic in that hilltop resort in Switzerland to find out how to do that. Bought off: so easy, next problem.

      Disgusting: when a basic function that was carried out until about 1960, regular preemptive burns to reduce fuel loads, was stopped because it was costing too much and more recently a few people complained that backburns to get fuel loads reduced near homes and access roads, let “smoke get in their eyes” for a day or two each year.

      Now we have smoke for 3 months and governments have ignored health effects.
      Recent fires in and around NovoCastria and the Hunter Valley have been devastating to people, animals and the environment.
      The accumulation of decades of rubbish growing in one local spot finally ignited in about 2013. Wildlife had no chance of escaping the rush of fire up the hill.
      And let’s not mention the 180 deaths from wokish fire management/cost saving activity in Victoria.

      Forget about the horrendous fires in Greece and California of recent years: did you see the photos of the Greek burn site: no prior management and an incident waiting to happen.

      The Truth, you ask for is there, staring you in the face, but you’ve been conditioned to look past it to see only the glorious future your masters have planned for you.

      Have a good life Slave No. 50601, MalEx444 salutes you.

      The Link:
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H2di83WAOhU

      KK

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    Tristan

    “The Pardon for Flynn was not only about justice, it frees up both Sidney Powell, and Michael Flynn.”

    To…release the kraken?

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    It’s been one month since the US election. After many glorious claims from Powell and Guiliani, no judge has been presented with direct evidence to support their claims.

    There are affidavits saying there were unusual vote patterns in several cities. And that vote tabulating machines could be “fixed”. Evidence that fraud could have happened is not evidence that fraud did happen, along with sufficient proof of that to convince a judge.

    The first battle is over. Trump lost.

    Right now the battle for a better voting methodology in Georgia. That battle is not going well. There is another month to change the methodology of so many absentee ballots with little or no signature checking. But that would need to build on any success in challenging the November 3, 2020 vote, and that has not happened.

    The following thought will probably get me banned here permanently, but fear of that won’t stop me:

    In my 24 years of using the internet I have never witnessed a web site fall from excellent to mediocre so fast as this one. This formerly science website, focused on climate science, has not had a climate change article in one month. The articles here have become almost 100 percent US politics, with the current article a conspiracy theory based on a logical fallacy. That logical fallacy is an appeal to authority, featuring two retired generals as the “authorities”, even though both have no information technology knowledge, and are not authorities on the subject.

    Nr. Flynn was prosecuted for lying to the FBI and fired for lying to Vice President Pence. Both are not evidence of good character.

    Mr. McInerney believes in a Hammer and Scorecard CIA computer hacking scheme. That scheme was invented by Dennis Montgomery, a military contractor who, over several years, has presented no evidence at all.

    Mr. Montgomery had previously been caught and/or prosecuted for several other hoaxes, You can look him up at Wikipedia. His character is such that NOTHING he claims should be believed.

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      mobihci

      Richard, there was never going to be enough time to charge someone with a crime before december. if they did charge someone, there would be an opportunity for stalling and withholding evidence etc. they just could not do that. I believe most people see a criminal charge as the only “evidence” they will accept, but that is just not true. there is more than enough evidence to prove election administrator failings that affected to outcome of the election.

      The work being done by trumps team, including powel, is just being done to sell to the people the idea that there was fraud and fill time. it really is not there for the legal outcome. they have a few avenues left to follow that will probably prove that. ie the legislators will most likely take the easy path of not sticking their necks out etc. but in the end, they will get their day in the supreme court that will rule on the constitutionality of the state laws. it seems likely that trump will win that, but where does that leave the people? if they were not sold on the fraud there would be a huge backlash, but as it stands, they did the right thing. well that is my view anyway.

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        mobihci
        It appears that what Trump lawyers are telling the public is NOT what they are telling state judges. And if they can’t convince at least one state judge that his or her state’s election had too much fraud to be “certified”, the Supreme Court may not even take the case. Even if they do take the case, “turncoat” Roberts will probably vote against anything Trump wants.

        Half the U.S. population will never be “sold” on election fraud. The same people who still believe Trump colluded with Russians and Hunter Biden never even owned a laptop computer.

        The leftists will believe whatever their beloved leftist-biased media sources tell them to believe.
        They are like the Star Trek borg.

        We live in an alternate universe where “they” rely on feeling and beliefs for their conclusions.

        While we seek facts, evidence and data — then use them to reach likely conclusions based on logic. And spelling names wrong when replying to other comments here. Which I blame entirely on my young age (12 years old), excessive adult beverages, and especially crakar24. Because NONE of my faults, are my fault.

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      robert rosicka

      Richard if it wasn’t for politics there would be no globull warming , CAGW occours only in the minds of Govt officials , politicians and their faith based hangers on .
      So whoever holds the top job will push us towards a CO2 free socialist nirvana or like Trump call BS and form policies accordingly.
      This is why this election means so much to a CAGW skeptic like me and obviously I’m not alone , while I know it’s off topic and I’ll probably get in trouble from the moderators this “Yes Prime Minister” clip from years ago explains the link between CAGW and politics nicely.

      https://vimeo.com/231081036?fbclid=IwAR3wlqbptHPtvS8d9XQZbSOBWwFVUy_ZKXz23kMSDfCyCI2U_mGiVklYUIA

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        robert rosicka

        There would be global warming if there were no politicians.

        And if there was no warming, there would be global cooling.

        There would be some coming “crisis” that “only a strong central government staffed by leftists could prevent”

        If I had a choice, not that I do, I would choose to live in an inter-galcial period with a medium term trend of global warming

        Well, we do live in the Holocene interglacial, and there has been intermittent global warming since the late 1600s.

        So I’m happy.

        Many climate alarmists have publicly stated their hatred of free market capitalism, for many decades.

        Yes, the Moderators here have been on the warpath since they stopped drinking. They have scolded me repeatedly for trying to cause trouble, threatened to edit every fifth word of my comments, print them upside down, and in Latin. I don’t care. My comments would probably make more sense that way!

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    Orson

    Here’s video of a Dominion representative (see his badge), apparently using a USB stick and Laptop to alter – what? – could it be votes in this vote processing enter in Gwinnett Co, Georgia?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjUz-kfS_qo

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    les

    the voting will stand ..I think trump will back off for now

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    William Astley

    The info I have is that senior Dems are looking for a way out.

    Biden for multiple reasons is being offered asylum in China.

    There is a full Milt investigation underway into the CIA/FBI/China/Dems 2020 election interference and multiple plots involving China.

    https://www.dcclothesline.com/2020/11/30/situation-update-305th-military-intelligence-battalion-is-kraken/

    Rumors emerge of Biden seeking pardon deal from Trump

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    “It’s all gone too far! All of it! It has to stop!” …on Tuesday, Mr Sterling, the state’s voting systems implementation manager, rebuked his fellow Republicans, including the president.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55153918

    [Now you are bouncing back to older threads. Strike two in the game of trolling.]ED

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      At least two Trump supporters were executed in riots and protests in the lead up to the election. When did Joe Biden condemn that violence?

      Absolutely, violence and death threats are “too far” and “have to stop” but it is pure hypocrisy to pretend that it was OK for Biden to ignore and tacitly support all that, and to whip up fear and division by race, and then blame the division on Trump.

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    CHRIS

    Scott Morrison (my local member) is a weak, vacillating Neville Chamberlain-type politician. His stance on CAGW plus his response to China’s Hitler-like bullying proves this in spades. Politicians will NEVER learn the lessons of history (ie: Europe in the 1930s = China in the 2010s)

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    The 305th MI Battalion at Fort Huachuca is a 35F MOS training battalion for AIT soldiers who are fresh out of Basic Training. They don’t do any intel work beyond instructing brand-new soldiers. I should know, I was part of the 305th at Huachuca from June to October 2019.

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      Thanks for that Jared. So how do we reconcile (I’m genuinely curious) what the Generals say. Is there some other interpretation, a different battalion, a place that sounds like Huachuca.. ?

      I just want to get to the bottom of this.

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    Paul

    Ok.So what did they find on the servers siezed from the cia in germany?
    How will Trump respond if military intelligence finds proof of fraud?”

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