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    Tonyb

    Its the sun wot done it!

    Svensmark back

    “Something is amplifying the solar activity, and the idea that I came up with 30 years ago was that maybe solar activity is somehow regulating the Earth’s cloud cover,” Svensmark explains. He has been working on this hypothesis consistently since then and has also done a lot of work in collaboration with Israeli astrophysicist Nir Shaviv, a Professor at the Racah Institute of Physics at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.”

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      Do you have a link?
      If yes, why isn’t it shared?

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      David Maddison

      Prof. Shaviv wrote the following on X (posted 23rd Mar 2024). You will have to go there to see the graph referred to and working links to the papers.

      Back in the day, it was well understood that the sun was an important driver of climate but this idea was abandoned with the anthropogenic global warming scam. Glad to see someone with the courage to return the idea.

      https://x.com/nshaviv/status/1771463161050206503

      Debunking the solar climate link?

      One of the arguments used by alarmists who don’t like the idea that the sun has a large effect on climate is claim that because solar activity decreased from the 90’s while the temperature increased is proof that the sun doesn’t have a large effect. There are several reasons why this argument is wrong.

      1) Any temperature “modeling” (if you can call it that) that assumes the temperature is simply an instantaneous linear response to the radiative forcing is completely ignoring the large heat capacities in the system. The same argument could be used to prove that the sun doesn’t heat earth at all. Between noon and 2pm the temperature rises while the solar flux decreases. Similarly, the temperature increases (in the northern hemisphere) between June and August, but the solar flux diminishes. Without proper modeling that considers this (and a longer time scales over which there were solar variations), such arguments are mostly baseless.

      2) Proper modeling should include both the solar flux and the anthropogenic forcing. Both are important to understand what has happened from the late 20th century. The key point I am trying to make is that given the large radiative forcing that the sun has (see next point), its increase in activity over the 20th century + the radiative forcing implies that the observed warming is due to a much larger net radiative forcing, implying that the climate sensitivity has to be on the low side and with it future warming.

      3) There is clear evidence proving that the solar radiative forcing is an order of magnitude larger than the changes in the solar irradiance (which is what the IPCC takes when they say they take the solar forcing into account). This can be seen in the huge heat flux going into and out of the oceans every solar cycle. This paper from 2008 is simply ignored by the community, because it is a game changer (there has been no real attempt to disprove it):
      agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.102…
      A few years later we looked at satellite altimetry data showing that the solar cycle is still imprinted in the sea level over 2 additional cycles (and with much better data):
      agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/20…

      You can also see it clearly in the ocean heat content data (see this tweet):
      x.com/nshaviv/status…

      The fact that the radiative forcing associated with solar activity is very large implies that there must be an amplification mechanism. Today we know that it is through the cosmic ray cloud cover link, but it is not relevant to the argument whether the sun has a large effect or not.

      See the first reference for an explanation and the implications of this graph:

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        If anyone doesn’t think that our Sun has an impact on the Earth’s climate, then I have a simple experiment to perform. If I was able to that is.

        Turn off the Sun and then see what happens.

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          Dave in the States

          It happens every night, with predicable results.

          The eclipse back in, if I recall 2016, was a good expeirement. Around here it happened about mid day and it was nice and toasty by then. Then, with the sun blocked for around 20 minutes the temperature dropped a good 20 degrees F.

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        Ross

        Ned Nikolov was also all over this subject and I previously followed him on Twitter, where he had a sizeable following. He did some analysis of cloudiness vs world temperature for the 1980’s and found a very good correlation. For that decade cloudiness was reduced and as a result there were measurable increase in world temps. We know absolutely nothing about extra terrestrial forces on our planet. Keep wasting money and research on CO2.

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          Dennis

          UNIPCC “science” and “climate change” propaganda looks like the works of talented sales and marketing people and wording crafted to scare and impress, otherwise known sometimes as marketing hyperbole and puffery.

          Greenhouse effect, is Earths atmosphere contained in a glasshouse?

          Is Carbon Dioxide Carbon pollution?

          Etc

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          Roy

          According to Retraction Watch Ned Nikolov’s scientfic papers on climate change were withdrawn. There is a lot about this, including Nikolov’s robust defence of the work by himself and a colleague, at the Retraction Watch website.

          https://retractionwatch.com/2016/09/13/u-s-govt-researchers-withdraw-climate-paper-after-using-pseudonyms/

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            KP

            Its quite funny! They are responsible scientists employed by US Dept Ag, who published papers privately with their names spelt backwards, like all politicians creating ‘plausible deniability.

            So once discovered they withdrew the paper as the publisher was unhappy, not because there was anything wrong with the science.

            Having seen what happens to scientists who go against the current fads in climate, I can quite understand why!

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      RickWill

      I stop reading when there is belief in anthropogenic “forcing”. It demonstrates the author has no clue. CO2 improves biomass but has not impact on the radiative balance. Ice dominates the radiative balance.

      The current relatively low solar cycle has topped out. The next one that pearls around 2035 is a big one:
      https://drive.google.com/file/d/1r9GEuaAExUkzDr5K8ej-_NunXCdkJxJL/view?usp=sharing

      The top and middle images of the linked chart shows the Z-axis motion of the Sun in 3D. That motion gives some insight into recent reduction in Earth’s reflectivity. A good deal of the reduction though is due to reducing spring/summer snow in the NH and that has been a long term trend as the spring solar intensity across the NH increases.

      More analysis in this article:
      https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/08/24/change-in-reflected-solar-electro-magnetic-radiation-during-ceres-era/

      The questions to ask any CO2 warming believer is why is Greenland gaining in altitude – some might say it is land rebound but that is coastal not in the middle so more snow is the correct answer.. Then where does snow come from (if they do not respond the ocean then they have not thought it through). Then how did the snow get from ocean to land – the answer is heat into the NH oceans. Then why are NH oceans heating – the answers is precession of the orbit. The end game of course is glaciation of the NH north of 40S as it has done after interglacials for at least a million years.

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        Ross

        I’m now not so worried about some commentators in their belief in either the Greenhouse effect or CO2 radiative theory. I think they do that to not be cancelled. Lombourg, Curry and many others for example. Even Peter Ridd mentions it but I still like his conversation on the health of the GBR.

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          RickWill

          I stop reading because they are willing to accept nonsense without the ability to think for themselves. The scam has to be stopped at the core. Trump gets that.

          Ice is getting a revival in climate science after the CO2 bandwagon induced hiatus in ice research.

          There is value in understanding climate change and why Earth’s climate is so stable. But anything that pushes radiative “forcing” from CO2 is naive junk.

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        Kalm Keith

        Thanks Rick; most of it was about complex stuff that would require years of study to feel confident about: but the conclusion in the second link was magic.
        😃

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      Dennis

      The Maunder Minimum, also known as the “prolonged sunspot minimum”, was a period around 1645 to 1715 during which sunspots became exceedingly rare. During the 28-year period 1672–1699 within the minimum, observations revealed fewer than 50 sunspots. This contrasts with the typical 40,000–50,000 sunspots seen in modern times over a similar timespan.[1]

      The Maunder Minimum was first noted by Gustav Spörer in publications in 1887 and 1889, work that was relayed to the Royal Astronomical Society in London, and then expanded on, by solar astronomers Edward Walter Maunder (1851–1928), and his wife Annie Russell Maunder (1868–1947), who also studied how sunspot latitudes changed with time. Two papers were published in Edward Maunder’s name in 1890[2] and 1894, and he cited the two earlier papers written by Gustav Spörer. Because Annie Maunder had not received a university degree, restrictions at the time caused her contribution not to be publicly recognized. The term Maunder Minimum was popularised by John A. Eddy, who published a landmark paper in Science in 1976.

      The Maunder Minimum occurred within the Little Ice Age, a long period (c. 1300 – c. 1850) of lower-than-average European temperatures. The reduced solar activity may have contributed to the climatic cooling, although the cooling began before the solar minimum and its primary cause is believed to be volcanic activity.

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        Dennis

        The Mediterranean Sea was 3.6°F (2°C) hotter during the Roman Empire than other average temperatures at the time, a new study claims.

        The Empire coincided with a 500-year period, from AD 1 to AD 500, which was the warmest period of the last 2,000 years in the almost completely land-locked sea.

        The climate later progressed towards colder and arid conditions that coincided with the historical fall of the Empire, scientists claim.

        Spanish and Italian researchers recorded ratios of magnesium to calcite taken from skeletonized amoebas in marine sediments, an indicator of seawater temperatures, in the Sicily Channel.

        They say the warmer period may have also coincided with the shift from the Roman Republic to the great Empire founded by Octavius Augustus in 27 BC.

        The study offers ‘critical information’ to identify past interactions between climate changes and the evolution of human societies and ‘their adaptive strategies’.

        It meets requests from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) to assess the impact of historically warmer conditions between 2.7°F and 3.6°F (1.5°C to 2°C).

        However, the historical warming of the Med during the Roman Empire is linked to intense solar activity, which contrasts with the modern threat of greenhouse gases.

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        RickWill

        Quotes without reference source link is bad etiquette.

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        Mike Jonas

        “the cooling began before the solar minimum and its primary cause is believed to be volcanic activity”. Hmmm. That reads like a knee-bend (like the papers today that end with a statement supporting AGW).

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    Tonyb

    If I remember correctly thanks to Joe Biden the US scuttled from the Bagram air base in Afghanistan in scenes straight out of Vietnam and left its allies in the lurch

    Trump now intends to get it back

    https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-trump-warns-taliban-bad-things-will-happen-if-us-does-not-regain-control-of-bagram-airbase

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      Meagain

      With the fall of the Government of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, agreements made then became null and void. Two agreements were made for the withdrawal – one with the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan: https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/02.29.20-US-Afghanistan-Joint-Declaration.pdf and a second with the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan (the Taliban) which the US does not recognise as a State (this is the text throughout the agreement). https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf

      Because there was no Intra-Afghan agreement following the withdrawal, I would guess the papers are pretty worthless now.

      Important to think about what happened in the lead up to 2020 – is this why so many nutters seem to be running around again now? Rumours are that some Oct 7 weapons came from Bagram….

      The United States is committed to start immediately to work with all relevant sides on a plan to expeditiously release combat and political prisoners as a confidence building measure with the coordination and approval of all relevant sides. Up to five thousand (5,000) prisoners of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban and up to one thousand (1,000) prisoners of the other side will be released by March 10, 2020, the first day of intra-Afghan negotiations, which corresponds to Rajab 15, 1441 on the Hijri Lunar calendar and Hoot 20, 1398 on the Hijri Solar calendar.
      The relevant sides have the goal of releasing all the remaining prisoners over the course of the subsequent three months. The United States commits to completing this goal. The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban commits that its released prisoners will be committed to the responsibilities mentioned in this agreement so that they will not pose a threat to the security of the United States and its allies.

      This was one activity strangely not impacted by the pandemic stopping all other people moving about at that time….

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        Tonyb

        At the time the Afghan army-which was said to be the best trained and best equipped army in the region- capitulated very rapidly. As a result there were huge amounts of weapons that then got left behind or thrown away by the fleeing Afghan army. There must be many terrorist groups that managed to get some of the weaponry from the Taliban.

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    Tonyb

    Major European airports hit by cyber attack

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/cyberattack-airports-london/2025/09/20/id/1227174/

    We are mad with this headlong rush towards technology that is unreliable and that can be hacked from thousands of miles away. We really do need analogue back ups. Mind you, with the huge demand for AI centres there won’t be any electricity left to power anything else anyway.

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      David Maddison

      The problem is further compounded by DEI employment policies for air traffic controllers, especially in the United States under O’Biden. I’m not sure to what extent the TRUMP Administration has been addressing that problem.

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      OldOzzie

      As someone who was involved in Original Departure Control & Check-in Systems & Development of CUTE Systems – Backup then was Book of Seat Stickers matching seat layout for each Aircraft departing at Gate plus back up Baggage Tags

      Was interested to read that Collins Aerospace, which provides check-in and boarding systems for several airlines across multiple airports globally, is experiencing a technical issue that may cause delays for departing passengers, London’s Heathrow Airport said Saturday, having warned of delays.

      RTX, Collins Aerospace’s parent, was not immediately available for comment outside of U.S. business hours.

      ARINC Multi-User System Environment (MUSE™)

      Our ARINC Multi-User System Environment (MUSE™) passenger processing system has been helping the aviation industry share resources and reduce operating costs for decades. Today, it supports more than 300 airlines at over 100 airports worldwide. We are relentlessly focused on providing the critical capabilities and applications to maximize your operations so you can continue to focus on your passengers

      ARINC cMUSE – State of the art passenger processing in the cloud
      We developed our ARINC cMUSE cloud solution to provide even greater flexibility to optimize your operations. It eliminates software engineering costs without sacrificing any of the reliability, security or robust capabilities of our ARINC MUSE platform. ARINC cMUSE can be deployed in the public cloud, managed by Collins Aerospace or installed on-premise where there is still a requirement for core room infrastructure.

      ARINC cMUSE is designed to be interoperable with all current common-use terminal equipment (CUTE) technology and common-use passenger processing systems (CUPPS). It optimizes resource usage and support overheads while eliminating the need for servers, core computing space and costly technical manpower. While it’s great for small to mid-size airports, airports of all sizes will benefit from being able to launch check-in services in just minutes, onsite or off, using only a PC, laptop or thin-client device with existing peripherals and a standard Internet connection.

      Perfect for irregular operations and seasonal requirements, ARINC cMUSE can be deployed on mobile devices and integrates seamlessly with a range of mobile peripheral devices. It puts the power in your hands to reduce queues and keep passengers moving at the most demanding times.

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        Tonyb

        My own son in law was delayed by 90 minutes at Heathrow because of the problem and he was one of the lucky ones. He was off to Svalbard via Oslo.

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    Paul Cottingham

    Elon Musk says “The BBC is complicit in the destruction of Britain… you’re forced to pay for your own destruction, it’s insane, it’s unfair, it is wrong”: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1966931368191160522

    “The BBC is another part of the destruction of Great Britain” -Norman Tebbit

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    OldOzzie

    The Australian Editorial Today answered my Question of yesterday – Telco tragedy must never be allowed to happen again
    Customers deserve to be confident of contacting triple-0 in emergencies.

    No-one seems to have identified whether Optus call centre is off shore or not?

    Confirmation by Optus that it ignored five emergency calls to its overseas call centre during Thursday’s catastrophic system failure that reportedly cost multiple lives has left many Australians nervous about being able to contact emergency authorities in a crisis. Such a failure in a technology that usurped traditional landlines for most consumers is intolerable.

    Sums up Australia today for many Australian Companies, who think they are smart & saving money Offshoring Call Centre, but for their Consumers, trying to explain a problem to someone whose First Language is not English (Kudos to them for being able to speak 2 languages, something I cannot do), and basically never succeeding, and coming away frustrated and upset at the Company Involved.

    Australian companies need to Re-Onshore Australian Call Centres.

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      David Maddison

      Last time I called 000 to report a burglary in progress of a thief in a car park it took 2 minutes to get a response. Then the operator could not locate the area on their map despite me giving precise details. Then in frustration I called the local police station just around the corner and they didn’t bother to answer the phone at all. This was in inner Melbourne, StKikda East.

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        TdeF

        There’s no need. They know the culprits. To interfere would display cultural insensitivity.

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        Ronin

        Care factor zero.

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        John Connor II

        Don’t bother calling them.
        Just post a mean tweet and there’ll be 8 cops there right away!
        Oops, forgot this ain’t the UK (for now).
        Meanwhile in the UK:

        UK police go to confiscate the phone of a child VIEWING a social media post

        https://x.com/DonnaLouise1212/status/1969655755969347916

        It’s over UK, just lay down and die already.

        George Orwell : “Man, did I underestimate it all!”

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          Tonyb

          I don’t use X but scurried in to look at the context which is very different to the implication.

          “The police are investigating a teenager who created a social media account impersonating another teenager, and using it to send indecent messages. Not “Viewing a social media post”.

          The video has been heavily altered to show only 1.20 of a 10 minute interaction. ”

          There is a link to the police report.

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          KP

          “UK police go.. ” If those two girls turned up at my door I’d take one look and say “its not Halloween and I’m not buying anything”

          Maybe they’re part of the Kiddies Police Force.

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        Ross

        We were observing a very erratic driver on the Melbourne to Geelong freeway. I was driving and asked the wife to ring11444, because I thought it didn’t require emergency. Finally got through and was immediately patched through to 000 anyway. Next time I’ll just ring 000. Waste of time ringing the police station as well. (I’ve done that too, never again)

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        Rusty of Qld

        Assaulted in my own front yard by a member of a youth gang of African descent January 2020, operator could hear, via my mobile, what was going on, said they would dispatch a car, to date still waiting for the police to visit me.

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          Tonyb

          There’s been a lot of traffic jams and that new set of traffic lights isn’t helping so delays are to be expected, but I am very confident they will be along any time.

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      Steve of Cornubia

      A week or so ago my wife and I were walking in a nearby national park, along tracks available only to walkers and horse riders. I heard what sounded like a high-speed motorcycle, coming from a direction within the park. I told her to get off the track and had literally just stepped aside my self when two dirt bikes launched over a bling crest on the trail, just metres from us, and flew past. I was a close call.

      I immediately called the local police to warn them of the danger – and offence. They weren’t interested, instead telling me to lodge an online report. I told then I had no date signal but they said “just do it when you get home”.

      So our near-miss and the continuing danger posed to walkers on those popular trails wasn’t deemed important enough to drag a police car away from hunting drivers doing 66kph in a 60 zone, or deplorables tweeting anti-leftist messages. Priorities and all that.

      Upon getting home, I commenced the process of lodging a report. Fifteen minutes later, having been thwarted by the ridiculous online form that did not cater for my incident, I gave up.

      Australian Police, keeping you safe!

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        Eng_Ian

        You should have said that you sent a hateful tweet about it and have considered buying a machete.

        That’ll get the riot squad ordered to your location before you can blink.

        If you had the name of the person taking your phone call you could have posted that too. Always good to name and shame the incompetence. The rot starts at the top and has flooded every minion layer beneath.

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          Earl

          Or like that joke “..don’t send a squad car send an ambulance I’ve just shot them” call back and say piano wire has been stretched across 2 trees at the height the bikes came over the rise so walkers aren’t in danger just trespassing bike rider flyers. I reckon they would mobilize a couple of SES teams in no time at all to scour the track for the wire. LOL

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          Chad

          If you had the name of the person taking your phone call

          Yes, requesting the name and ID number of unhelpful police will make them think twice about their responce !

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      Destroyer D69

      Had a recent Optus failure in the Somerset Qld region causing loss of MOBILE phone services for a number of days.Optus robot assistant swiftly confirmed the reason and duration of the problem(Kudos for this)but then asked if I would like to talk to someone about the problem a yes response was met with a reply that they would call me shortly on my MOBILE phone!!!

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      David of Cooyal in Oz

      G’day O O,
      In answer to your question:
      ” Not only did the Optus network fail again early on Thursday morning without it immediately noticing but its offshore call centre ignored five warnings from the public. ”

      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-22/optus-triple-0-failure-analysis/105800592

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    Meagain

    Their ABC – the case against babies: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-21/antinatalism-child-free-climate-change-human-suffering-baby/105695328

    The really heavy CC bit here – so you don’t have to suffer the entire text in the link: (coz that’s truly a lot of suffering)

    As I was reading about the different branches of antinatalism, it struck me that the climate emergency represents a convergence of the philanthropic and misanthropic camps. There is guaranteed to be more human suffering as the planet continues to heat. And with the evidence we now have about human impact on the planet, it’s hard to care about how the climate is changing and not veer into misanthropy.

    Earth’s 10 hottest years on record are the last 10. As Benatar told me, “There is now an active antinatalist movement, which has also been boosted by the environmental crisis.”

    In 2021 protesters set fire to a pram outside Parliament House to object to then-prime minister Scott Morrison’s inaction on climate change. The United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change had just released a report saying that it was a “code red for humanity”.

    That report was prepared by 234 scientists from 66 different countries and highlighted that human influence had “warmed the climate at a rate that is unprecedented in at least the last 2,000 years”. Those scientists pointed to stronger-than-ever evidence that human influence is responsible for changes in extremes such as heatwaves, heavy precipitation, droughts, and tropical cyclones.

    That’s a lot of suffering.

    That was the same year market research firm IPSOS published its Perils of Perception report into climate change, which looked at how people understood the environmental ramifications of their actions. (A 2024 report focusing on facts vs fiction has since been released.)

    The 2021 report found that when asked to nominate what three actions were most likely to reduce the greenhouse gas emissions of an individual living in a wealthy country, most chose recycling as much as possible (59 per cent), renewable energy (49 per cent) and using an electric or hybrid vehicle (41 per cent).

    The problem was that while all of those are good things to do, the report claimed “none are in fact in the top three most effective measures”.

    So what were the top three?

    The most effective way to reduce carbon emissions was to have one fewer child, followed by not having a car at all. And thirdly, avoiding one long distance flight.

    Only 11 per cent of 21,011 adults who took part in the study correctly picked “having one fewer child” as the best thing they could do to reduce emissions.

    On the other hand, while ecologists first raised the concept of an “ecological footprint” in the early 1990s, the idea of an “individual carbon footprint” was cooked up by oil giant BP in an American ad campaign in 2004 that was designed to place blame for the environmental impact on consumers, not corporations.

    When I booked a flight, Qantas charged me around $20 to “offset” the footprint of my seat, even though the company made $21.9 billion in revenue last financial year.

    A lack of regulation allows corporations and shareholders to keep giant financial profits and “externalise” the cost of their impact on the planet.

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      KP

      “Earth’s 10 hottest years on record are the last 10. ”

      It all depends on who is measuring it, how they are measuring it, and what they are using to measure it…

      The is no evidence for that blanket statement at all. The details would be “Earth’s instantaneous temperature as measured by some dodgy stations in a couple of areas and extrapolated over cooler areas by someone determined to find warming is the highest its been in20years..”

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        And when did human records begin?

        Just ask the Dinosaurs about how hot it was when they were around. Oh, you can’t as they don’t exist any more and didn’t speak.

        And Earth’s records are in the rocks.

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        Dennis

        2014 and a letter to the Abbott Liberal-National Coalition Government from Dr Jennifer Marohasy and others alleging that errors and omissions in BoM media releases distort reality, weather stations recording temperatures in areas now heat sinks warmer than before roads, airports, buildings and so on were built at the locations. Not using BoM historical record data earlier than 1910 avoiding the extreme heatwaves of late 1800s and 1900 Federation Drought and other reasons why computer modelling of warning trend is inaccurate.

        The Minister asked BoM for an explanation and they admitted to the errors and omissions and promised not to repeat them in future.

        PM Abbott wanted to conduct an independent audit of BoM but was narrowly defeated in Cabinet, no doubt LINO left opposition.

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        Mike Jonas

        Every single one of Earth’s billion hottest years were over a million years ago.

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      GreatAuntJanet

      If they were really worried about population numbers, they wouldn’t be encouraging so much migration, would they?

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    OldOzzie

    Pat Boone Just Said What Everyone Is Thinking About Jimmy Kimmel

    Actor and singer Pat Boone had some words of wisdom for alleged comedian Jimmy Kimmel amid controversy over his lies about the individual suspected of assassinating Turning Point USA’s Charlie Kirk.

    In a video posted on TikTok, the 91-year-old entertainer praised Kimmel, saying he has “spent many hours enjoying your wit and your ability to interview and interact with almost anybody except Brad Pitt, for some reason.”

    Boone then stated that Kimmel and fellow late-night talk show host Stephen Colbert “have increasingly abused your freedom of speech” because they believed they “could infect the airwaves and the consciences of millions of watchers without regard to their differing and actually opposite views and beliefs.”

    “While networks and sponsors were paying you millions to entertain, amuse, and help them in their days feeling good, you’ve chosen to infect and insult the intelligence, strongly held political views, and convictions, and increasing instances, actual facts, with your very personal freedom to say whatever you want on the public airwaves,” Boone said.

    “Well, you still have that precious freedom, Jimmy, and I’m sure you’re still vehemently employing it to anybody who wants to hear what you have to say right now,” the actor continued. “But say whatever you choose to Bill Maher or Howard Stern or other programs whose sponsors profit from and share your views. But learn that networks and sponsors who pay dearly to reach viewers who don’t share your views and are seriously offended by them.

    Boone affirmed that Kimmel is “still perfectly free” to say anything he wants, but “freedom isn’t free, as you’re finding out shockingly.”

    He explained that “There is a responsibility that comes with it and consequences from its misuse, and that’s why it’s so precious.”

    Boone concluded, “So shout, shout on. Speak your views publicly in the streets without fear. But don’t expect to be paid millions when you bite the hand that feeds you.”

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    OldOzzie

    A Palestinian state needs Israel’s agreement to exist. It’s not a matter of recognition – editorial

    Pushing for a two-state solution now is unmoored from reality, as Palestinians have shown no ability or willingness to run a peaceful entity alongside Israel.

    For the first time, several Western democracies – led by France – are expected to recognize a Palestinian state. Britain, Canada, and Australia already did so on Sunday.

    That these countries are prepared to recognize a nonexistent Palestinian state is a mistake. It will do nothing to promote peace in the region and will instead give a tailwind to the terrorists and Isl@mic extremists who carried out the October 7 massacre.

    However Paris and London try to spin it, the takeaway on the Palestinian street will be clear: 32 years after the signing of the Oslo Accords – which state that Palestinian statehood would come only at the end of a negotiated process – a Palestinian state, even a fictitious one, has been delivered not through compromise, change, or negotiation, but through brutal, mind-numbing terrorism.

    In other words: Terrorism pays.

    France, the UK, Canada, and Australia can say what they will. But without Israel’s agreement, there will be no Palestinian state. And that agreement will not come without a profound, sustained change in Palestinian behavior and mindset.

    All the rest is just vacuous moral preening – grand declarations that may win applause in London and Paris but do absolutely nothing to change the reality on the ground in the Mideast.

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      OldOzzie

      Best Comment on The Australian Article – Australia, UK and Canada join to recognise Palestine

      Please Australia,next fed election vote for the farmers dog ,at least it knows who to answer too .

      Plus

      Notice that the only people who were there to greet Albo were Australians who were paid to do it!

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      David Maddison

      It’s a reward for the heinous and depraved terrorist acts of October 7th 2023 and shows the complete lack of moral clarity of these governments.

      The Australian Government’s statement of recognition doesn’t even include a demand for the return of Israeli hostages.

      In addition, Gaza has already been operating as an effective independent state for the last 20 years, ever since Israel withdrew from that area. They have demonstrated no interest in governing themselves as a free, independent or civilised state but instead it is a state of violence, corruption and stagnation. Israel would have loved to assist them to develop but all Gazans have done is engage in acts of terror against Israelis and violence among their own people. And surveys show most Gazans support Hamas, who they elected in the first place.

      The Government rewarding terrorism and violence is a disgrace, although that is no surprise. Even violence on our Australian streets against both Jews (greatly increased antisemtism in Australia) and the general Australian community goes mostly unpunished. Obviously it is a governance model to which the Government aspires.

      Also the “Palestinians” have been offered a state numerous times and always rejected it because they want the entirety of Israel.

      You can’t make peace with someone who’s identity revolves around killing you

      1919: Arabs of Palestine refused nominate representatives to the Paris Peace Conference.

      1920: San Remo conference decisions, rejected.

      1922: League of Nations decisions, rejected.

      1937: Peel Commission partition proposal, rejected.

      1938: Woodhead partition proposal, rejected

      1947: UN General Assembly partition proposal (UNGAR 181), rejected.

      1949: Israel’s outstretched hand for peace (UNGAR 194), rejected.

      1967: Israel’s outstretched hand for peace (UNSCR 242), rejected.

      1978: Begin/Sa’adat peace proposal, rejected (except for Egypt).

      1994: Rabin/Hussein peace agreement, rejected by the rest of the Arab League (except for Egypt).

      1995: Rabin’s Contour-for-Peace, rejected.

      2000: Barak/Clinton peace offer, rejected.

      2001: Barak’s offer at Taba, rejected.

      2005: Sharon’s peace gesture, withdrawal from Gaza, rejected.

      2008: Olmert/Bush peace offer, rejected.

      2009 to 2021: Netanyahu’s repeated invitations to peace talks, rejected.

      2014: Kerry’s Contour-for-Peace, rejected.

      It is also no coincidence that the timing of this “recognition” is on the eve of the Jewish New Year, a deliberate and calculated blow to Israelis.

      And it’s no coincidence either that Macron, Starmer, Carney and Albanese’s countries are all rapidly degenerating due to the Leftist policies they exercise plus the mass importation of some of the world’s most violent, uneducated, anti-Western, misogynistic, anti-Christian, and antisemitic people. Rewarding violence and terrorism has consequences and it is being brought to these countries as well. Just look at the lawless streets of Melbournistan, for example, Canada and just about every city in Western Europe.

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      Ronin

      “a Palestinian state, even a fictitious one, has been delivered not through compromise, change, or negotiation, but through brutal, mind-numbing terrorism.”

      So now they know how things work, expect more mind numbing terrorism.

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      RickWill

      If Trump meets up with Albanese, there will be stern words to Sleezy on this matter.

      I expect AUKUS will be toast due to Australia joining China’s B&R.

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        ianl

        It’s my suggestion that Elbow et al are knowingly destroying the “A” in AUKUS as the Lefties don’t want nuclear technology, no how and no way … and then blaming Trump will get them off the hook when our hoped-for nuclear submarines sink without trace.

        I’ve though that for quite some time. With Elbow, the old adage of watching what politicians do (ie. their behaviour pattern) rather than listening to their blather is especially apt.

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          el+gordo

          The AUKUS submarines will probably be the first to go because regime change is coming to Beijing.

          If Donnie pulls out of the deal then we deserve to get our down payment back.

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            Chad

            el+gordo
            September 22, 2025 at 9:56 am ·
            regime change is coming to Beijing…

            You have repeated that prediction for months,..and whilst it is inevitable at some future point, what exactly makes you think it is due anytime soon ?

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        David Maddison

        Australia’s recognition of the terrorist state of “Palestine” as well as our communist PM realigning Australia with China rather than the US will likely lead to Trump cancelling the AUKUS nuclear submarine deal with Australia.

        China has already warned against Australia taking nuclear submarines and our obedient Government is listening. Many in the Labor Party don’t want them anyway but they haven’t quite got the cajones to cancel the contract themselves lest they be seen as the traitors they are.

        But Trump can’t allow Australia to have nuclear submarine technology because of the likelihood of it being leaked to the Chicomms. Our PM has met Emperor Xi twice but still hasn’t met TRUMP and may not even meet him on this trip.

        Because of Albanese, Australia is no longer a friendly or reliable ally of the United States or Israel.

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        Dennis

        At the recent days of meetings between King Charles and President Trump AUKUS and nuclear submarines was discussed – Pillar 01 noting that there are many other projects and beginning with Pillar 02) and the President apparently expressed his support.

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    Vicki

    A good point viz Gaza has been operating as an Independent state for 20 years. And the populace elected Hamas to govern them. What followed was a continuous pattern of attacks, where possible, on Israeli border forces – and then, the cowardly attack on Israeli families and a music festival on Oct 7. The reward of recognition with statehood will only exacerbate the determination of the Palestinians to claim all of Israeli territory “from the river to the sea”.

    It is a futile gesture, or rather a further incitement to violence. It betrays the Israeli people.

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      Earl

      And the populace elected hamas to govern them.

      And there is the “trick in the tale” of Palestine and the cries for them to be “free from the river to the etc etc.
      Political freedom is based on free and fair elections yet Palestine hasn’t had ANY national government elections since 9 January 2006. All subsequent national elections have been cancelled or “postponed” so little wonder nothing has changed as far as relations with Israel is concerned.

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      yarpos

      Rather nebuolous assertion

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    TdeF

    So the UK, Canada and Australia have recognized a state which does not exist and has never existed.

    Run by the same extremist rabble politicians who are waging war on man made CO2 driven rapid destructive Global Warming. Which also does not exist.

    And the question is why?

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      Brenda Spence

      Votes from a certain demographic?

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      el+gordo

      Its worth remembering over 68,000 people (66,054 Palestinians and 1,983 Israelis) have been reported killed in the Gaza war.

      Israel has the right to self defence, but they are being a bit precious.

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        HAMAS is the problem. Along with the IRANanian nut cases.

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          el+gordo

          I get that, but Israel is missing the opportunity to create lasting peace.

          Something that Earl said, there has not been a free and fair Palestinian election in over a decade. At the end of hostilities I see the whole Gaza strip turned into Donnie’s Rivera and Hamas is history.

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            Earl

            Cheers. And just to reinforce the point currently there are 36-year-old Palestinians who have never in their lifetime had a voice(vote) in the future of the country they are living in.

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    David Maddison

    The Charlie Kirk assassination has brought to the fore the violence and irrationality of the Left.

    Especially since the assassination, I have noticed on social media Leftists not even attempting to make rational arguments, they immediately launch into tirades of abuse.

    And at the regular demonstrations in favour of Hamas and other ratbag groups we see in Melbournistan, they have no inhibitions toward vandalism or even assaulting people.

    After Kirk’s murder we saw huge numbers of Leftists celebrating it. They think it’s fully acceptable to murder people for their peaceful opinions.

    And this is why in the United States TRUMP has declared Antifa to be a terrorist organisation, which despite the name are actually pro-fascist as they support violence and suppression of free speech. He will no doubt declare other violent extremist organisations to be the same.

    As I’ve said before, the Left are becoming increasingly violent, deranged and dangerous. We must be cautious.

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      TdeF

      Yes, but the majority of the ‘left’ are actually conservatives with a socialist bent whose party is dominated by the very vocal extremists, Marxists, Fascists and crooks. Conservative Democrats include lawyers and doctors and public servants who hate uncaring capitalism but are shocked at the multiple assassinations and attempts. They do not want to see themselves as part of Murder Inc. A bit like conservative Michael Douglas in Falling down, who finally realised he was the bad guy. No one wants to be one of the bad guys.

      In that Conservative leftist group you can include Elon Musk, RFK Junior, Tulsi Gabbard and many more who have no really swapped sides so much as they have realised the Democratic party left them long ago. All people who also realised that Donald Trump was a compatible and conservative successful business man and family man fighting an ethical battle against oppressive government run by the likes of Hillary Clinton. And that Trump was not an extremist politician or crook and personally nothing like what they had been told.

      The Fascism Hitler adopted from Mussolini was Italian Socialism and the Democrats and their AntiFA black shirts are extremely violent Fascists and crooks enriching themselves. Nancy Pelosi is now worth half a billion. Mitch McConnell is not far behind. And while the murder of political opponents is very acceptable to Fascists, leading Democrats have made a serious political miscalculation in celebrating the execution of Charlie Kirk. The facade of caring socialism has fallen. But they are more likely to not vote at all than to betray a lifetime of barracking.

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      Steve

      Contrast the callous, heartless leftist response to Kirk’s assassination to Erika Kirk’s eulogy for her husband where she wrapped things up by forgiving his assassin.

      https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/1969890263104700788

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    David Maddison

    Israel has just deployed the world’s first laser defence system.

    It was developed by Rafael and is called Iron Beam. It will supplement Iron Dome.

    As I understand it won’t yet replace exoatmospheric interceptors like Arrow 3 or medium range interceptors like David’s Sling.

    It’s mainly for shorter range engagements. Also it costs very little per shot as opposed to a hugely expensive Iron Dome missile.

    Video: https://youtu.be/WoPoM1JUbL0

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      Graeme4

      Was discussed in The Australian over the weekend, where a commentator said that the aircraft carrier Gerald R. Ford was equipped with a 500 kW laser defence system, to be upgraded to a 1MW system. The power output from the Israeli system wasn’t mentioned, but the company’s ads say 100 kW.
      There are also videos on the U.S. Navy’s Helios laser system.
      And Australia has a lower-power Apollo system.

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        KP

        Ah, but what do they use to aim the laser? Do you need a guy with a good eye still, or a fancy microwave oven turned into a radar unit? Then its a battle between radar manufacturers and drone manufacturers with humans getting fried in the middle.

        A few grams of ‘window’ on a cheap drone would defeat any radar aiming.

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          David Maddison

          It’s probably a combination of radar for long range search and acquisition and electro-optical tracking for target identification, terminal tracking and engagement.

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            Graeme4

            It’s going to be integrated with the current Iron Dome system, which presumably has the radar acquisition and guidance part.

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          OldOzzie

          Israel wins race for cheap lasers that could transform battlefield

          Iron Beam is a ground-based laser air defence system designed to counter aerial threats, including rockets, mortars and drones. Israel’s defence ministry said that the system, capable of intercepting objects from a range of hundreds of metres to several kilometres, will be ready for operational use by the military this year.

          Iron Beam, which was co-developed by Elbit Systems and Rafael Advance Defence Systems, has unlimited firepower, with almost zero cost per interception, and causes minimal collateral damage, the defence ministry said.

          Co-developed by Israel’s Rafael Advanced Defence Systems and Elbit Systems, it is a high-powered, 100-kilowatt laser-based weapon system that has already completed successful trials against projectiles, including missiles, drones, mortars, and [unmanned aerial vehicles] across a comprehensive range of operational scenarios”.

          The Iron Beam is not meant to replace the Iron Dome or Israel’s other air defense systems, but to supplement and complement them, shooting down smaller projectiles and leaving larger ones for the more robust missile-based batteries such as the David’s Sling and Arrow systems.

          As long as there is a constant source of energy for the laser, there is no risk of it ever running out of ammunition. Officials have hailed it as a potential “game-changer” in the battle against projectile attacks.

          According to Israel’s Defence Ministry, laser interception is much cheaper at $5 each, a negligible amount compared to the missile, which costs around $50,000 each.

          Lasers, weapons like Iron Beam, use concentrated beams of photons to deliver the destructive effect at the speed of light. It has a continuous source of energy. However, the effective range of the system is typically low, up to 10 km. They are useful against small UAVs, rockets and mortars but have less potency against high-speed ballistic threats. The weapon system has other key limitations, like the laser needs several seconds of lock-in time to destroy the threat, which will be inefficient against a high-speed barrage of missiles. It is also dependent on weather patterns, like clouds and fog can disperse the laser’s energy.

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      TdeF

      Some of the lasers I know are 100Kw in a very thin beam that will cut at least 50-75 mm/2-3″ of steel plate. The rifle is obsolete. As are massed infantry. And the cannon. No trajectory. All line of sight. zero flight time. As the atom bomb ended Total War, lasers will end the battlefield. And the cost competition between cheap munitions and armour and drones. You could cut a tank in half at a range of kilometers. And a thousand troops in a second.

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        John Connor II

        Plus the dwell time plus the need for a precise lock at distance for a laser to have an effect. Probably better off using jamming equipment instead.

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          TdeF

          The two biggest problems will be refraction and dispersion by water vapour, perhaps less of a problem over the desert. Also it does not have to be so precise at all. A bit like a bullet which is a very small object of perhaps 30 grams/1 ounce but quite deadly in the right place. The target is also moving fast so a hit anywhere will slice like a sabre. You do not have to stay ‘locked on’ during flight time as with a missile. For a laser, locking onto a target can be the same thing as firing at 186,000 miles per second. Zero flight time. For big lasers, 100kw is continuous output, not instantaneous. That’s about 150 horsepower in a sabre. One laser could devastate thousands of targets and never runs out of ammunition.

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            John Connor II

            No, they DO need to maintain a lock for a number of seconds at a minimum to inflict damage.
            They are NOT laser scalpels or close.

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              TdeF

              I doubt it. I work with such devices. The pierce time for 1″ (25mm) steel plate is under 1 second. And the skin of flying things is very thin. The Concorde skin was 1mm. But we will see.

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                ozfred

                Tdef -What is the distance from the laser to your 25mm steel plate.
                Might be a factor when distances get to the km level.

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                TdeF

                It’s nearly touching, but that’s presumably because you can and should. Even the slightest reflection is deadly. I am not involved in the design. And my observations are mine as an observer. My point was about the speed of light, a mile would be 7 microsecond. I have seen videos of Chinese lasers cutting at angles other than vertical in a show last week in Chicago. Very scary. And cutting reflective metals. Such laser cutting happens in special rooms of unknown material. The far blue frequencies used are invisible, not like the old red light lasers. People are putting powerful lasers in hand held devices in China. Unbelievably dangerous. Unimaginable designed and used as a distance weapon. But still light and refraction and scattering happens and flight time is not a problem. Unlike most of the world, the deserts of the Middle East can have near zero humidity and clouds.

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        KP

        ” And a thousand troops in a second. ”

        Why waste energy, cut the power down, widen the beam and blind a thousand troops, then leave the enemy to look after them for the rest of their lives… It came up in a SciFi story 50years ago, as the hero was going to the battlefront and passing hundreds and hundreds of blinded soldiers walking back with their hand on the shoulder of the man in front.

        “And the skin of flying things is very thin. ”

        Just mirror-chrome plate it and reflect the laser.

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        TdeF

        That’s just a wall socket device, say 10 amp, 2.4kw maximum power at 100% efficiency. Maximum 40% efficiency say, so 1kw. Industrial lasers have suddenly jumped to 100Kwatt actual output.

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      David of Cooyal in Oz

      Will we have enough wind power to drive these?
      Or do we have to politely ask any invaders to only come over in the middle of the day?

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “US Congressmen’s letter to Therapeutic Albanese over Palestine – comes with a warning”

    https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2025/09/us-congressmens-letter-to-therapeutic-albanese-over-palestine-comes-with-a-warning.html

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    Rafe Champion

    MORNING GRIDWATCH MONDAY 22 SEPT

    WHY GRID WATCH?

    Preaching to the converted on this site of course.
    The point is to demonstrate the potential power of encouraging everyone who enjoys a hot breakfast and dinner to check the NemWatch widget at dawn and dusk for a few days or hopefully a month.
    They will find how often or how seldom they will get a hot breakfast and dinner when there is less coal power in the grid.

    I anticipate that support for net zero will drop like a stone when more people check the widget regularly when the sun is low, especially in winter.
    Remember, we don’t have to change the minds of committed alarmists, we just have to get to the people who haven’t thought about it yet, like the people who changed their minds about The Racist Voice in the year leading up to the vote. That was when the Liberal Party showed some ticker and promoted the NO case.

    The same thing can happen when the Liberals take a stand on the NO case for net zero!

    AT 7.30 AM AUSTRALIAN EASTERN TIME THE WIND WAS CONTRIBUTING 21% OF DEMAND IN THE EAST CAPACITY FACTOR 36%
    AND 40% IN THE WEST
    BEWARE If you think we are doing well when you see big numbers for the penetration of wind into the grid, you are looking through the wrong end of the telescope. Look at the weakest link in the chain, the lowest point of the fence, dam and flood levee.
    Like 1 Sept at 7 PM EASTERN TIME THE WIND WAS CONTRIBUTING 3% IN THE EAST.
    And 2 Sept at 7PM EASTERN TIME WHEN THE WIND WAS CONTRIBUTING 5% IN THE WEST.
    Wind and sun will not carry the grid through windless nights because we have effectively next to no grid-scale storage. Don’t be impressed by the number of batteries being installed, do the arithmetic find out the cost to get through 16 hours with minimal wind and solar generation.
    https://www.nem-watch.info/widgets/RenewEconomy/
    TEXAS
    https://www.gridstatus.io/live/ercot
    4.20 PM WIND 13% SOLAR 26%
    BRITAIN
    https://grid.iamkate.com/
    10.20 PM WIND 44% SOLAR 0%

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      RickWill

      I anticipate that support for net zero will drop like a stone when more people check the widget

      I disagree. The majority of Australians are taking their own action and have bought or are buying rooftop solar and storage batteries. They realise that governments have been lying about cheaper grid power and taking immediate action. They do not trust their fellow citizens to do the right thing and send government funded scammers packing. There are still people who watch their ABC and have faith in the science CSIRO peddle.

      The NetZero facade will collapse when people take a close look at what is happening and realise the electricity grid is in terminal decline. It has been since 2000 when Howard’s RET was introduced. The wholesale market volume has declined since 2008 as industrial development stopped. And individuals started to take action on rooftop solar to control their energy costs around 2015. South Australia now gets 22% of its electricity from rooftops and is forcing grid scale solar and wind out of the market because they get first access to the demand.

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      Ross

      Preaching to the converted on this site of course.

      Yes, and also bad timing Rafe!!! Spring tends to be the most windy season in SE Australia.

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    another ian

    FWIW – an education milepost

    “Educational Crisis: Baltimore High School Fails To Produce A Single Proficient Math Student In Four Straight Years”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/educational-crisis-baltimore-high-school-fails-produce-single-proficient-math-student

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    RickWill

    Victoria’s B&R initiative hits its first hurdle. Trina has been gifted the $450m solar/battery project.

    Solar project sparks forced labour allegations
    Premier Jacinta Allan has approved a controversial $450 million solar battery project by Chinese company Trina Solar in Dederang, Kiewa Valley, during her China trade mission

    https://7news.com.au/video/news/solar-project-sparks-forced-labour-allegations-bc-6379896189112

    This is not a project that Australians would want to be involved in. I can imagine a hostile “welcome” for Trina employees fronting up to do this project.

    Then there is the fire risk. Local fire fighters will not even attend a battery fire other than clear people from the fumes.

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      David Maddison

      How is Belt and Road even legal for a state government to sign up to?

      Last time Victoria did it, it was cancelled by the Feds, Libs, because states can’t sign foreign treaties.

      Also Belt and Road was primarily for Third World countries and when the countries can’t make payments the Chicomms come and make a debt for equity swap as the Sri Lankans found out with the Hambantota Port project.

      Goolag AI says:

      China has been involved in renegotiating loans for stakes in projects, and this practice is a potential path for countries with unsustainable debt to gain control of assets, or for China to gain influence.

      Obviously China is highly aware of Victoristan’s and Australia’s massive debt and sees opportunities to gain equity or gain control.

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        RickWill

        How is Belt and Road even legal

        Give it another name like “Chinese strategy”.

        It had to be coming with the time Sleezy spent there and Dan getting a special invitation to their military parade.

        South Australia will suffer though because AUKUS is dead and I a doubt even AUK survives once Farage is in charge in the UK.

        Japan’s economic influence on Australia is sliding but China is more than filling that void.

        My sister was telling me that Gold Coast is now unlovable for many Australians as the Chinese invasion gets into full swing:

        Cash-rich Chinese investors are swooping down on Australia’s famous Gold Coast tourist destination, snapping up hundreds of millions of dollars in Coast real estate, including high-rise office and residential sites, luxury condominiums, and even the iconic Palazzo Versace hotel, much like the Japanese did in the 1980s. property for sale in qatar

        https://rebeccapine326.medium.com/property-on-australias-gold-coast-is-being-devoured-by-chinese-investors-3c7aca48513b

        English speaking Australians are moving north of Brisbane and south into northern NSW. Gold Coast is being funded from China. Victoria is after a slice of the Chinese tourism. This is part of Vicrtoria’s B&R initiative by another name..

        Socialists see a lot more of what they want in the command and control economy of China than the democratic freedoms of Trump’s USA.

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          Froggy

          Spot on about the GC, RW. I live in Burleigh and it is now a toilet and will be for some years yet. So many people here now. You are right about heading North (Sunny Coast is on a par with GC though) or South to Northern NSW…..becoming unaffordable also….

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            RickWill

            My sister moved to Harvey Bay. Apparently they are anticipating doubling the population over the next 12 months as the exodus hastens. Her daughter is looking at putting some of the spare cash from getting out of Gold Coast into Harvey Bay property.

            Any part of Queensland will be under pressure from the south now that there is an LNP State government starting to do sensible things, But they need to encourage the coal rather than milking it.

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        RickWill

        Big batteries defer the inevitable collapse of the grid. They reduce the curtailment of grid scale wind and solar so they remain economic for longer.

        Irrespective, rooftops and household batteries still win. And will continue to win in the intermittent generation stakes. The only thing that will slow rooftops in Australia is to reduce grid costs and that is only possible by using coal fired plant or the taxpayers pick up the high grid costs rather than the remaining consumers.

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      Eng_Ian

      The bigger questions for the locals are, “What is the exclusion zone for a battery fire and where do we go and when can we go home?”

      The answer about who pays has already been answered. The plebs always pay.

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      Ross

      Plus, Trina Energy is a very shady Chinese Company. Faced lots of lawsuits regarding fraudulent practices in supply contracts. Then you have the reports of the use of forced (Uyghur) labor in solar manufacturing. What could go wrong?

      [Ross, before using the F word we need a link or two to the court cases. Eg: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/labor-signs-off-on-453m-battery-build-by-controversial-chinese-firm/news-story/9bf551224cde0f80aec8d102b041f730 and https://www.pv-tech.org/totalenergies-launches-legal-action-against-trina-solar-alleging-breach-of-contract-fraud-over-us300m-order/. — Jo]

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Recurring Urges”

    “On prison and its occupants:

    In short, before ending up in prison, the vast majority of the perpetrators, the supposedly downtrodden and marginalised, have at least five prior arrests, with almost half having 10 or more, and one in seven, 20 or more. At which point, the phrase that comes to mind is the nature of the beast.”

    More at

    https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2025/09/21/recurring-urges/

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      So, a Correctional Centre is wrongly named. No one seems to get corrected.

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        Dennis

        Hardened criminals are almost impossible to change once they are in the mindset and system.

        Two senior prison offices at one of the toughest NSW Correctional Centres told me over lunch years ago, and they were older hardened men, that what upsets them are the very young prisoners who are delivered and think they are tough guys ready to enter prison and meet the inmates, they are offered protective custody for their own welfare but most refuse, until they discover what happens to young people inside.

        My point being that once inside many never recover let alone reform.

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    Geoff Sherrington

    Lithium battery fires.
    Our apartment is in a block of 15 with a big carpark below the lower level. I am concerned about fires from Li batteries in vehicles & scooters.
    What is the mood of this JoNova room? Should we make an Owners Corporation rule to prohibit entry of Li battery vehicles? Anyone with experiences from insurance implications? Implications about freedom of choice of such vehicle owners or intending buyers? Ta, Geoff S

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      RickWill

      The best place to start is with the insurance company. If there is an increase in premiums due to EVs then the EV owners or intending owners should take that cost.

      There are rules/regulations on the fire separation of fixed batteries and living areas that would prohibit a battery being installed under living areas. .In my view, the same should apply to EVs.

      This article gives some insight into the rules for household batteries:
      https://www.gses.com.au/habitable-rooms-and-restricted-locations-for-battery-installation/

      Having knowledge of these safety rules would give body corporate better insight into the risk.

      Something to keep in mind that batteries are explosive devices under fault conditions. They do burn in the sene of consuming oxygen but it is their explosive potential that is most concerning.

      To see even a tiny lithium battery under fault conditions is an alarming sight.

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      Chad

      Are residents allowed to keep large volumes (20 lts+) of flammable liquids, or refuel vehicles in the garage area ?
      If not , then the same fire risk regulations should apply to EVs.
      However, i suspect there will be some challenges to EV restrictions, simply because the authorities are pushing their uptake !

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      william x

      Geoff, this may help..

      I assume you reside in Australia?

      Australasian Fire and Emergency Service Authorities Council (AFAC):

      “Electric Vehicles (EV) and EV charging equipment in the built environment”
      https://afacprodpublicstorage.blob.core.windows.net/afac-cdn/files/resource_attachments/4e128301-9ed6-4332-aafe-dc93c4855369/afac_evs-in-built-environment_2024-01-09_v1-5.pdf

      Fire Rescue NSW position statement.
      https://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/gallery/files/pdf/bfs/Position%20statement%20summary%20-%20Electric%20vehicles%20(EV)%20and%20EV%20charging%20equipment.pdf

      The Position statement and recommendations are to be updated by AFAC in November 2025. So you may need to wait till then for the latest detail.

      Ok…Personally, I would not have an EV or EV charger under my residence. Especially below ground.

      I recommend that EV’s be parked/charged outside. 10m away from a building or structure.
      I recommend that you don’t touch an EV that has been in, OR is involved in fire.
      I recommend that you evacuate immediately up wind of Any Li-battery fire. They are extremely bad for your health when alight.

      Also I would move residence if the Owners Body Corp voted in EV Parking U/G.

      Now why do I have these views?

      I work for an Australian Fire Service. Have done so for 3 decades.

      Geoff, ask me more questions if you’d like. I’ll reply.

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      RickWill

      I found a good outline on this topic at this link:
      https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/electric-car-chargers-and-home-insurance-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-risks/

      A key point:

      Does home insurance cover electric car fires?
      This is where things get a little more murky. If you haven’t told your insurer you have an EV charger, there is a chance it might not be covered in the event of a fire and your home insurance won’t pay out.

      According to the RACV, there’s no blanket rule, but making sure your EV charger has been installed to the correct legal standard is important if you want to make sure you get your money back if there’s a fire.

      “In the event of a fire, any claim would be assessed on a case-by-case basis,” said the RACV.

      “This could include confirming all relevant Australian Standards and State Service and Installation Rules have been complied with for the installation and maintenance of the charging station.”

      Suncorp said something similar: “Fires caused by electric car chargers are typically covered, but it is important that it is in good condition, well maintained and is properly installed”.

      Reinforces my point about starting with the property insurer.

      The BEV explosion risk is reasonably well known and would be considered a material change from an insurers perspective. If they are not informed of such change then you may void your insurance.

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        Graeme4

        It’s interesting that it appears to be a bit of a disjoint between what the RACV is saying and the Insurance Council is saying.

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      Graeme4

      An interesting call. I have urged our block of nine townhouses to fit smoke alarms in their garages, and have advised them that the building plans show “firewalls” between adjacent garages. As we have separate meters, I’m not that adverse to a neighbour charging an EV, as I charge my e-bike in my garage. But I know somebody who lives in a nearby apartment block that has a huge underground parking area, and that surely must be at risk if some folks have EVs. They already have parking areas for gophers along one wall, with I presume power outlets for charging.
      I note that another nearby apartment block has two EV charging stations external to their underground parking area – perhaps this is a solution.

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        william x

        Graeme 4,

        I hope this helps…

        Its not told to you by the media, politicians or bureaucrats in AUS. So I will say it.

        If you read the BCA (Building Code Aust.), You will see that in townhouses and most structures.. The firewalls will not be enough.. They are not rated for 8+ hours of extreme heat.

        Understand all…. 8 hrs is how long It may take for an EV to end its exothermic reaction.
        Unlike an ICE vehicle, we can’t extinguish it. Your building will be gone or written off.

        And… This is my worst nightmare as a firefighter…

        Imagine if you have 30 EV’s parked together.. Underground, below a multi story unit block.

        And one of those Ev’s is having a bad day….

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          Graeme4

          Thanks William. I should have mentioned that Eng-Ian on Friday pointed out to me that my garage “firewall” wouldn’t stop any fire from spreading. So all I could hope for is to be able to retrieve my own car in time, if an EV went up next door. But I presume that I would only have a short time to do that. At least our garages are located a few metres away from the residences.
          I wonder how long it will be before we lose an entire apartment block because of a basement EV fire.

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    another ian

    FWIW – For a look at “ElBowen’s” inflated ambitions on “Nut-Zero” –

    Check “Sharknado” in the Weekend Australian
    Inquirer section, Weekend Oz 20-21

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    I find it amazing how you can specifically think about something, and try as you might, you can’t find a solution ….. not once, but a number of times over a number of days, just trying to ‘nut it out’.

    Nothing.

    Then, out of the blue, your mind (brain) finds the solution and ….. blink, there it is, worked out.

    My Mum once told me (many decades back, mind you, as she’s passed now) that even when you stop thinking about a problem or something, even an old memory, or something you know that you know, and it’s right there on the tip of your tongue, that your mind still works on the problem until a solution is found, or the memory located, and when that happens, a message gets sent to ‘front of mind’, and you wonder where it came from. She explained to me that everything you have ever learned, or seen, or heard during your life is contained in a neuron inside your brain. Regularly used thoughts and memories have a well trodden path to that neuron, and the link stays open, and it’s remembered quite easily. But an ancient thought or memory, or learned process, well the path to that neuron atrophies, so even though you know it, you can’t remember it, as the link to that neuron is broken. So even after you ‘give up on it’, your brain looks for other paths, some long and convoluted to that neuron, and when it’s found ….. blink, you ‘all of a sudden’ and ‘out of the blue’ remember it.

    Yeah, some of you are thinking ….. Mumbo Jumbo, we always knew Tony was somewhat just that little bit weird, eh.

    However, I have for a long time now learned to trust the process. Sometimes it takes less than an hour, a day, a week, or even longer, and I’ve had one memory return after more than a Month. It’s the strangest thing. It comes so far out of the blue you wonder, where the hell did that came from.

    Sooooo, what prompted this?

    Go look at this link to the OpenNEM site which details power generation data.

    Look at the ‘legend’ at the right listing all sources. Under Sources is Loads, and under that is Curtailment.

    Okay, Curtailment. Industrial Solar Plants, and Industrial Wind plants are taken off line because there’s (Huh! Consider the irony here, eh!) too much rooftop solar power. Note it’s just wind and solar, not any other source. Sort of defeats the whole purpose of renewables eh!

    Keep that In mind here, and I’ll explain further in the next comment.

    Tony.

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    Curtailment.

    You all know I keep the daily and weekly data for wind generation, and I do that for the purposes of the Capacity Factor. Now, almost everyone says that Capacity Factor is pretty much meaningless, and well, they would say that, wouldn’t they, because it’s so poor really, and is only 30%, well, less than that really. So don’t even mention it, look the other way, or change the subject.

    However, why it is in fact so important is that it is the only metric there is for the sake of comparison. You know, what it was years ago compared to what it is now. What it’s like for Seasons of the year, what it’s like in different weather conditions, like the passage of those huge High Pressure systems, etc etc etc.

    Okay, today, this very day, marks ….. SEVEN full years I’ve been keeping this data every day and every week, detailing the data and keeping the ongoing Capacity Factor percentage.

    Seven years.

    It’s less than 30% with the full seven year Capacity Factor now at 29.64%.

    However, the most recent 52 week yearly Capacity Factor is a fair whack lower at 26.75%.

    And that’s where my memory thing above came into play.

    Notice at the OpenNEM link, and I mentioned curtailment. At that link, now use the menu tab at the top, and click on All, and then year at the next tab at right.

    You’ll see that this current year is not full colour, just well, like greyscaled. Hold your mouse over that coloured area and look at curtailment. You’ll see solar plants, and wind plants and both are curtailed at 1% (each) of this year’s total power generation, and really that’s a lot, and the year is not yet over. The whole of last year was just 0.8% Solar and 0.6% wind, so there’s a lot of it going on, but really that curtailment has only been happening over the last year and a bit, all of this year and part of last year.

    Okay, my (perceived) problem which needs working out.

    It sort of makes my data collection for Capacity Factor for wind, well, maybe, incorrect, and here we need to understand the nature of Mathematics. I have TWO percentages, one for the most recent 52 weeks, and one for the full long term seven years, so 364 weeks. The full one is almost 29.64% and the yearly one is three percent lower ….. and that gap can be put down to curtailment this last year. The nature of Mathematics is that even though the most recent year is lower that’s a mathematical thing of just 52, whereas the whole long one is 364, so any variations will have minimal effect when dividing by 364 as opposed to dividing by just the 52, hence the long term (364) changes very little, barely 0.01%, even when wind has a really good or bad week, while that 52 week percentage swings sometimes quite wildly. And I hope you can see my point here.

    Okay, so I’ve been thinking of finally stopping the data collection, as I’m pretty sure I’ve proved the point really.

    What compounded my thinking on that was that there was no way I could work out how to take that curtailment into effect. Every time I thought about it, I was at an impasse.

    Anyway, this morning ….. blink. It doesn’t matter. It’s an arbitrary thing. Have they curtailed actual power generation, nameplate worked out to be power generation, or what. And where do I add it in, or take it out. Are those turbines actually spinning, and someone at AEMO is saying, sorry mate, we can’t use it. So it just gets switched off.

    Either way ….. it’s not even there, so why even mention it, and then put it up at that OpenNEM site at all, as if to say, “Well, it would have been so much higher if it wasn’t curtailed.”

    Who cares?

    The Grid only recognises ….. ACTUAL power generation, not woulda coulda if only.

    And Capacity Factor would not be higher if only we could add on that curtailed power. It’s not even there!

    So I can only go on the ACTUAL data eh!

    No need to worry about it any more.

    Oh, another brain generated message. Is wind perhaps grinding to a halt now? Would private enterprise want to sink money into wind plants?

    Okay now consider curtailment for wind, and the figure this year is (so far) 1432GWH. Now look at the cost of wind in the main legend, $75.27/MWH, and now you see that curtailed power is a loss of almost $108 Million so far this year. I can’t imagine a private investor wanting to sink money into a potential wind plant if it’s going to be curtailed and losing money.

    Oh the irony.

    Tony.

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      RickWill

      I pointed out that rooftops would win the intermittent stakes over a decade ago. I remember TonyfromOz was one of the most vocal in stating it was impossible. Well South Australia now occasionally gets more than 100% of its electricity from rooftops and has excess to export to Victoria.

      You are now starting to see the big picture. The grid is dead economically unless sensible bidding returns. Sensible bidding would take intermittent generation out of the market unless it partnered with gas turbines or maybe hydro. Coal would just chug away at full capacity and very low unit cost.

      Blackout and some State premiers are determined to build more grid scale wind and solar in a vain effort to lower grid electricity costs. The wholesale market volume peaked in 2008. It has been declining since. The only source of generation able to rise unconstrained is rooftops because they control their demand and can take that demand out of the wholesale market by adding solar panels. And that is occurring in huge numbers.

      Grid prices in South Australia are now world record or close to it. It provides a strong incentive to make your own. If you take the low daily service charge in SA you will pay more than 50c/kWh:
      https://www.ecoflow.com/au/blog/cost-of-electricity-per-kwh

      The Aldi $8,999 system would take a 10kWh/day user to zero energy most days; giving a 5 year pay back.

      South Australia is showing the way with rooftops winning easily. Grid prices world record and energy intensive users all gone or sucking from taxpayers. It has become a service economy with mining in remote areas the only industry.

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        Yep! I concede that. Looking back, there was no way known anyone would consider that the concept of actual curtailment would happen in the manner that it is now happening.

        An argument back then would have been along the lines that ….. Renewables are GOD. They’ll never touch them, and if curtailment was even in the vocabulary when applied to power generation, then it would have been coal fired power that was ….. curtailed!

        And now it’s industrial wind and solar power plants that are curtailed, and solar fails for around 12 hours every day, and with cloud, and now we know wind fails with High Pressure weather systems, and regularly at that.

        I look at this current curtailment as a flat out admission that REAL power generation (reliable and constant power delivery, eg coal fired power) is needed, whilst intermittent and unreliable wind generation is the source that can be curtailed. And here, think, hey, if we curtail reliable constant power, and keep wind ON the grid, umm, what happens if that wind fails, as it so often does.

        At the time, I also looked on rooftop solar as just for the residential sector and maybe the commercial sector in that specific area ‘INSIDE’ the sub station area. and not being fed back to the wider grid, and I’m still debating that. That rooftop solar means that the grid does not have to supply that sector of the Residential sector with panels on rooves, hence lowering grid generation overall.

        There was no way I could agree with you at that time, because it seemed inconceivable to me that rooftop solar would become as huge as it actually has become.

        I can now see that perhaps you might actually be correct about the grid closing in on an actual collapse.

        That’s something that once upon a time, I just could not envisage.

        It’s sorta like my belief that politicians would be given correct information about power generation, or that politicians would go out and look for that correct information.

        Kudos to you Rick. That visionary thinking on your part has made me rethink a whole lot of things, when first I thought ….. Naah! That’ll never happen.

        Well, it has.

        Tony.

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          RickWill

          Looking back, there was no way known anyone would consider that the concept of actual curtailment would happen in the manner that it is now happening.

          In my submission to the 2016 Finkel enquiry, I pointed out that Australia would need 240GW of solar energy to provide the Jiune demand at that time of 22.9GW.
          http://www.environment.gov.au/submissions/nem-review/willoughby.pdf
          See page 7 Figure 5.

          That works out at CF of 9.5%. It would need to be paired with 750GWh, 33 hours duration, of storage for the lowest cost solar/battery system.

          Those numbers looked fanciful then but they are now on the radar.

          If you read my submission, you will see my calculations were based on solid system experience. By then I had already had 4 years of off-grid operation of a solar/battery system.

          So I disagree. Anyone willing to do the analysis would know that large overbuild in generating capacity would be required. And curtailment of potential output would be a basic design requirement for the minimum cost system given the high cost of storage.

          Also note that in my summation – second last paragraph, I point out that rooftops have an economic advantage over grid scale solar and wind.

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          Honk R Smith

          “It’s sorta like my belief that politicians would be given correct information about power generation, or that politicians would go out and look for that correct information.”

          That’s kinda the Charlie Cook assumption isn’t it?
          Let us go and have a reasoned discussion with them.
          Of course, everyone is well intentioned.
          They haven’t been looking for or compiling ‘information’, they’ve been constructing a political narrative.
          ‘Climate Change’, ‘renewable’, and ‘Net Zero’ is hucksterism at a Little Red Book cultural revolution level.

          One need only observe the outright lies being perpetrated about Charlie Kirk to understand the true nature of those we imagine we have been ‘debating’.
          Of course, we must remain civil and receive more blows from their debate stick because everyone is good.
          Like from thus guy.
          https://nypost.com/2025/09/14/world-news/oxford-union-president-elect-george-abaraonye-disciplined-for-mocking-charlie-kirks-death/

          I greatly admire you engineer types.
          You make things go … well at least for anyone that listens.
          Bur there’s a good reason that the ‘Priest, a Rabbi, and an engineer waiting to be guillotined’ joke is so funny.

          On the other hand, I’ve always fantasized about Australia as the ultimate ‘off the grid’ drop out non-conformist promised land.

          Looks like you’re about to go truly off grid by what may be the ultimate example of conforming to hysterical Post-modern cultural absurdity.
          Who figured?
          Don’t forget to put your machete in the recycling bin.
          Jeez, it looks like Britain is at least making an effort to end their suffering.

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        Chad

        The Aldi $8,999 system would take a 10kWh/day user to zero energy most days; giving a 5 year pay back.

        True, one of the better offers currently available….
        ….for those that can afford it !
        .or.for those that are not renting, or living in unit blocks
        ..or for those that dont plan on selling in the next year or so
        ..or those that live in areas covered by that or similar offers ( most have area limitations )

        And if the grid really is “ dead economically” , where is the power going to come from for..
        .. those unable to take advantage of RT solar,
        .. whatever industry remains,
        ..or those millions of commercial properties, shops, offices, public facilities, etc
        At best i suspect RT solar might max out at 50% of property, only a proportion of that with sufficient battery storage to enable 100% on site supply,…BUT very few with significant overcapacity of battery AND PV area , to make even a tiny supply back to a depleted grid.

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          RickWill

          There can be no reduction in the need for dispatchable generation capacity. All that happens is that it gets used less often so its unit cost rises astronomically. And it is really risky to define a battery as dispatchable. Texas specifically excludes batteries from dispatchable category.

          The levelled cost of rooftop solar/battery in South Australia is 8c/kWh in March 2025 at 5% discounrt rate. More than 50% of houses already have rooftop solar.

          As grid prices inevitably rise, more households are installing rooftop solar. Designers are only recently incorporating rooftop solar into the house design. My newest neighbour, house built 5 years ago, has 6.6kW of solar and room for three timers that on high pitch north facing roof with no risk of blocking trees. New estates are being planned on the basis of installing rooftop solar and battery. Some suburbs have 65% rooftop solar uptake.

          As rooftops become the temporary king of generation, councils will be obliged to trim trees to prevent sun blocking.

          It is inevitable that rental property owners will be incentivised to install rooftop solar or penalised in some way.

          Rooftops have huge natural advantage over grid scale wind and solar. The main one is that they own their demand and are always first in line to server it.

          The only things that will slow the uptake of rooftop solar is to hit the stuff with massive tariffs or to lower grid prices. The latter will only occur by changing the wholesale bidding system to require dispacthable generation out the government use taxpayers to fund the grid rather than consumers.

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        Ross

        The other major factor in your correct predictions was the gradual demise of energy intensive industry. Industry involving processing raw goods or manufacturing. Soon as Australia lost its car industry, it was curtains for any other similar industry. The only thing keeping the car companies is Australia was cheap electricity. Without the need for those large requirement of “power” 24/7, it left a huge gap. Subsidies to car companies were just a band aid and governments were averse to tariffs, because Australia were one of the first dills to sign up to “free trade”. Nice weather and good beaches only gets you so far. Also, the non co-operative work force didn’t help as well.

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      Chad

      it’s not even there, so why even mention it, and then put it up at that OpenNEM site at all, as if to say, “Well, it would have been so much higher if it wasn’t curtailed.”

      Tony , one possible use for the curtailment data, is to give an indication of how much surplus wind / solar power could be available for storage to enable overnight use, back up, and peaking requirements.
      Obviously 1432 GWh wont be much help in that regard,..even if the storage was available !

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      Dennis

      No doubt with information from green websites and so called renewables lobby groups many believe that baseload generators are an old fashioned system of power stations that cannot deliver electricity varying output to meet needs, as compared to the free energy renewables that have dispatchable capabilities.

      I have asked how electricity is instantly available at every power point switch constantly but never receive a reply.

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      So then, and I’m actually surprised no one has actually asked.

      Does curtailment actually have any effect at all on my data collection.

      Having done it now for seven years there is that three percent gap between the full 7 year figure and the most recent 52 week yearly figure, and the reason for that is that ….. curtailment.

      However, I did have SIX years of data before this curtailment started last year.

      For those six years both of those percentages were virtually in lock step, at just a tick or so under 30%.

      So, I was always confident it would stay relatively close.

      the current 364 week (7 years) Capacity Factor percentage is 29.67%

      Now here, I can do the Maths using the data for the most recent 365 day 52 week year and then include that (arbitrary) figure of what has been curtailed from those Industrial wind plants.

      The adjusted Capacity Factor percentage for the last 12 Months is, umm, 29.79%.

      Oh, surprise surprise.

      Remember in the original comment, I mentioned how you struggle to think how to do something, and then give up, and the brain then continues to work $h1t out.

      I’m happy now.

      I might even have a Gin and Tonic to celebrate.

      Tony.

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        Graeme4

        In China, curtailment is definitely affecting the relationship between installed solar and its actual use in contributing power to the grids. Tibet has curtailed 30% of available solar, and other places a significant percentage of their solar.

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    RexAlan

    I don’t know Geoff. I live in a block of 26 with a secure undercover car park on the lowest level. Myself and the treasurer are waiting for somebody to request a charger be installed which I hope we can say no to. Not sure though. We do have an electric scooter which we have allowed into the bike cage provided the owner doesn’t charge it inside the building. But a car I wouldn’t know. I’m not familiar with current car makes so I wouldn’t know if any down there are already hybrids of the non plug in variety. I’m sure the charger issue will come up eventually though.

    This is a reply to Geoff comment no 18.

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    John Connor II

    Milei Admits “The Market Is In Panic Mode” As Argentine Capital Exodus Accelerates

    Following his government’s resounding loss in local elections – seen as a harbinger of next month’s congressional races – Argentine President Milei is facing a renewed crisis as the embattled South American country’s currency is collapsing amid fears that he will scrap his defense of the peso (which has already cost hundreds of millions of dollars) and let it plunge as so many of his predecessors have done.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/milei-admits-market-panic-mode-argentine-capital-exodus-accelerates

    “Doing a DOGE” has ramifications as I warned about.
    Watch carefully as that’ll be the EU shortly.

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    John Connor II

    Biden minions caught taking bribes for autopen pardons

    https://x.com/Real_RobN/status/1969438062464942559

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “California’s Latest Climate Theater: Newsom Signs Another Expensive Illusion”

    “What Californians can realistically expect from Newsom’s bill signing is one more layer of complexity, one more promise to be fulfilled “soon,” and one more set of bills that will raise costs before they contain them. The $33 billion raised here doesn’t erase the decades of bills paid, grid stress felt, or blackouts endured. If leadership means anything, it ought to mean transparent trade-offs, not performances under domes.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/09/21/californias-latest-climate-theater-newsom-signs-another-expensive-illusion/

    Reading “ElBowen’s” tea leaves too?

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      RickWill

      The image is dithered when I view it so the text is obscured.

      With regard Sllezy’s US visit, my take is that Australia cannot join the Chinese B&R initiative and keep AUKUS going. They are mutually exclusive. Labor have never been wedded to AUKUS and would despise paying Trump’s USA for military tech..

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        Dennis

        Australia is paying in instalments for brand new yet to be built US Virginia Class nuclear submarines and in between times RAN personnel are being embedded with nuclear submarine crews US and UK for training purposes and the near future plan is for US and UK nuclear submarines to regularly use RAN submarine base facilities in WA more often than they do already.

        RAN Collins Class conventional submarines (6) are being reconditioned to extend service life.

        The centrepiece of AUKUS Pillar 01 is the designing of a new generation nuclear submarine SSN AUKUS for RAN and UK RN built in UK and Australia. The Albanese Labor Government early in 2024 ordered the Small Modular Reactors, they signed a contract and placed orders and deposit with Rolls-Royce UK who have been producing nuclear reactors for over 60-years licensed by US where SMR was developed and used for over 75 years.

        US and UK are the top two foreign investment sources for Australia and our closest allies. US have used bases here since WW2 ended and Pine Gap NT is a strategic very important asset for land, sea and space surveillance and other activities.

        And then Five Eyes Intelligence Network since WW2 – US UK Australia New Zealand Canada.

        There are many important ties between Australia and our several closest allied nations, and combined allied military forces project strength.

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          RickWill

          Australia is paying in instalments for brand new yet to be built US Virginia Class nuclear submarines

          That is similar to a few years earlier where Australia was paying installmnts for French submanrines. Last time, Australia chose to withdraw. This time, Albanese is giving every reason for Trump to withdraw US technology.

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    el+gordo

    ‘Foul winds threaten Chris Bowen’s fantasy renewables model.

    ‘Australia’s vast landmass can’t save its troubled wind industry, with developers running out of viable locations just as construction costs hit record highs.’ (Nick Cater / Oz)

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      Dennis

      Under Labor, 90% of this 24/7 baseload power will be forced out of our energy grid by 2035, without any guarantee of a like-for-like replacement.

      The Australian Energy Market Operator is warning of the increased risk of reliability gaps, meaning blackouts or brownouts. Power bills have increased by up to $1,000 more than the Albanese Government promised.

      Labor’s all-eggs-in-one-basket ‘renewables only’ approach wrongly assumes that one technology class alone can do the job.

      Yet Labor’s renewable energy target – 82% renewables by 2030 – is considerably behind schedule. Labor’s climate target of 43% emissions reduction by 2030 has become unachievable.

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    David Maddison

    Albo’s new “Palestine” is off to a great start.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/hamas-publicly-executes-three-collaborators/news-story/4934ef42267abf7bd65335f151031fba

    Hamas publicly executes three ‘collaborators’

    Hamas claimed the men had been involved in the arrest by Israel of one of the terror group’s militants.

    September 22, 2025

    Hamas militants executed three Palestinians they accused of collaborating with Israel.

    (PAYWALLED)

    Will Australians be invited to these spectacles to see their taxes at work?

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    Dennis

    It is now just over 20 years since John Howard introduced a renewable energy policy which required wind/solar-generated electricity to be incorporated within energy retailers’ total supply. This gave those sources of energy a de facto subsidy. That basic subsidy presently is $50 per megawatt hour for large-scale solar and wind – rather more than the total price of generated energy formerly experienced – and $40 per megawatt hour for rooftop solar.

    John Howard recognised the error he had made and that subsidised energy would, if allowed to expand, undermine the electricity supply’s economics. He refused to increase the capped amount of subsidised wind and solar from its initial 9,500 gigawatt hours (nominally ‘2 per cent of additional energy’ though actually over 4 per cent of total electricity). But then came the Rudd government which increased the subsidised renewable energy quantum six-fold followed by Gillard who, for good measure, added a carbon tax on coal and gas.

    Tony Abbott as Prime Minister 2013-2015 proved unable to do more than staunch the increases but Albanese and Bowen have turbocharged the program. Labor has increased direct subsidies to wind/solar, introduced the ‘Safeguard Mechanism’ requiring the top 215 electricity users to reduce their usage by 30 per cent by 2030, and are vastly expanding the transmission network to cater for the diffuse nature of renewable energy supplies.

    The rationale behind all these measures is the prevention of global warming that the use of coal and gas is supposed to be causing. But any such warming would have a trivial effect and be normal in the Earth’s history. Besides, as the Dubai energy extravaganza demonstrated, the developing world, now comprising the lion’s share of global emissions, is not about to reduce coal use. Indeed, the consultancy Thunder Said Energy regretfully reproduced the following chart illustrating China’s burgeoning actual coal use compared to its previously expected trajectory.

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    John Connor II

    Word power Monday

    Eellogofusciouhipoppokunurious
    – very good or very fine.

    Who comes up with these?!

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    John Connor II

    “Science knows it doesn’t know everything; otherwise, it’d stop.
    But just because science doesn’t know everything doesn’t mean you can fill in the gaps with whatever fairy tale most appeals to you.”
    – Dara O’Briain

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    RickWill

    Not sure if their ABC will give this coverage of Trump at Charlie Kirk’s memorial:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS0BuUwhIm4

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      David Maddison

      It’s beautiful.

      Their ABC (Australia) will either not show it or they’ll savagely edit it to alter context and meaning.

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    David Maddison

    It seems the only thing Albo is proud of that he’s taking to New York is the social media ban (censorship) for under 16’s and recognising the terrorist state of “Palestine”.

    He will be the laughing stock.

    TRUMP won’t be impressed either has he’s warned about censorship of US social media companies. And US Congress has warned him about recognising the terrorist state. It won’t end well. There will be consequences.

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    John Connor II

    Super typhoon nears Philippines as thousands evacuate

    Thousands have been evacuated in the Philippines as the nation braces for a super typhoon that has been described by regional authorities as potentially “catastrophic”.

    Super typhoon Ragasa, packing 230km/h (143mph) wind gusts, is forecast to make landfall over sparsely populated northern islands on Monday, before barrelling west towards southern China.

    Ragasa brings a “high risk of life-threatening storm surge” with peak heights exceeding 3m (10ft), the Philippine weather bureau said.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/public-safety-and-emergencies/health-and-safety-alerts/super-typhoon-nears-philippines-as-thousands-evacuate/ar-AA1N1P8g

    Gusts up to 330km/h reported.
    Buy an EV to stop this happening again!

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      KP

      “Buy an EV to stop this happening again!”

      I did, but then NSW banned my electric bicycle on trains or any public transport because so many were catching fire!

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    another ian

    FWIW – more CDC on vaccines

    “CDC’s Vaccine Advisory Panel Votes to Amend MMRV Vaccine Recommendations for Children
    The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices indefinitely postpones decision on Hepatitis B vaccination for newborns, citing lack of preparedness to reach a verdict.”

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/09/cdcs-vaccine-advisory-panel-votes-to-amend-mmrv-vaccine-recommendations-for-children/

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    FWIW

    “The Tide Is Turning”

    “Charlie Kirk’s assassination has served as a catalyst for turning a new leaf in our civilizational return to sanity. In a fascinating recent podcast, titled “Western Civilization Has Reached Its Turning Point After Charlie Kirk’s Death,” Victor Davis Hanson remarks:

    Something is happening in the United States, … worldwide, too. [T]he death of Charlie Kirk ignited it. It’s not a top-down DEI mandate. It’s a grassroot kind of collective shrug throughout Western civilization [that] could be characterized as “enough is enough.” ”

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/09/the-tide-is-turning/

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      another ian

      And

      “Murderers of the Land That Bore Them”

      “One of the best dialogues in any Hollywood movie is from Tombstone. In a conversation with his friend Doc Holiday, Wyatt Earp is trying to make sense of what makes Ringo, the main antagonist, tick.

      Wyatt: “What makes a man like Ringo do the things he does?”

      Doc: “A man like Ringo got a great empty hole right through the middle of him. He can never kill enough or steal enough or inflict enough pain to ever fill it.”

      Wyatt: “What does he need?”

      Doc: “Revenge.”

      Wyatt: “For what?”

      Doc: “Being born.” ”

      “Now, I could go on quoting the movie Tombstone until you jammed icepicks into your ears to end your suffering, but in the interests of brevity, I’ll keep it to this one scene. I’ve been thinking of this scene ever since Charlie Kirk was assassinated. It’s a precursor to Alfred Pennyworth’s “some men just want to watch the world burn” quote.

      In the outpouring of sadistic and giddy pleasure that took place after Kirk’s murder, we have seen the face of pure hatred. Leftists talk a big game about compassion, empathy, tolerance, love is love, etc. But where is the love in celebrating the killing of an innocent man? Where is the love in the calls for more killing?”

      More at

      https://pjmedia.com/caskeet/2025/09/20/murderers-of-the-land-that-bore-them-n4943925

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        KP

        “Sadly, this seems to be a recurring human condition in societies that grow so rich and prosperous that its people lose themselves in its lethargic abundance. ”

        Welfare States do that, then it destroys them. After living in South Africa for some years I realised all New Zealand’s violence & theft problems would be solved by a compulsory one-way ticket to Jo’burg, and instructions to ‘earn enough money to afford a flight home.’

        Welfare States are failing, while South Africa still struggles and builds tougher people. You work hard and play hard because you know life might be very short.

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      And a different part of the tide –

      “Greta, The Magical Retard”

      “Breaking:
      @GretaThunberg
      expelled from Gaza flotilla.

      Other participants onboard said they couldn’t stand her anymore.”

      https://x.com/DrEliDavid/status/1969672466172653719

      Via https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2025/09/21/greta-the-magical-retard-21/

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        Graeme4

        She hasn’t been expelled from the flotilla, she left the Steering Committee ship in Tunis and transferred to another ship. Whether she left on her own accord or told to shift is not known. The group’s spokesperson has left the flotilla.

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    FWIW

    “MSNBC: Lincoln Shot By Union Soldier Celebrating”

    https://babylonbee.com/news/msnbc-lincoln-shot-by-union-soldier-celebrating

    Via SDA

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    FWIW

    “Visualizing The Massive Network Powering US Data Centers”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/visualizing-massive-network-powering-us-data-centers

    And “ElBowen’s” “Nut Zero plan” relative to this?

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    Earl

    According to this 32second clip China is investigating a solution to EV battery fires. I can already see the future environmental report (produced courtesy of a government grant) that confirms ICE vehicles burst into flames more often than EVs.

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