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China caught funding eco-lawfare suits in the USA to sabotage American energy dominance

Green paint for Chairman Mao

By Jo Nova

It didn’t start that way, but it’s almost like Climate Change is just a Chinese trick…

The West’s ridiculously bloated legal system sits there like a radioactive duck. For a pittance, the Chinese Communist Party can sponsor climate lawsuits that cost US companies big money, tie them up in court, slow them down, and sometimes bankrupt them, and that’s for cases they don’t win.

For the other cases, left wing non-profits are running training programs for judges to indoctrinate them with climate ideology. (If we think some judges are crazy, perhaps they had help to get there?)

Senate Hearing Exposes China’s Role In Backing Climate Lawsuits Against U.S. Energy

By Olivia Rondeau, ClimateChangeDispatch

The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) is financially backing left-wing climate lawfare in the United States, and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), Kansas Attorney General Kris Kobach, and dark money expert Scott Walter revealed the shady details while testifying before a Senate subcommittee on Wednesday.

According to Cruz, this campaign is a “three-pronged” approach.

“First, foreign money from entities tied to the Chinese Communist Party flows into the United States to bankroll climate advocacy groups who litigate against American energy,” the senator said in his opening remarks.

“Second, activist lawyers flood our courts with lawsuits designed not to win policy debates, but to bankrupt energy producers and to dismantle energy infrastructure through sheer attrition.”

“And third, the judiciary itself is being quietly captured and brainwashed as left-wing nonprofits host closed-door trainings that indoctrinate judges to adopt the ideological goals of the climate welfare machine,” he explained.

“The CCP plainly has a strategy of driving the United States away from domestic energy sources and increasing U.S. dependence on sources that rely on a Chinese supply of solar panels, electric vehicle batteries, and other technologies.”

If the CCP do this in the US, why wouldn’t they do it in Australia? (Perhaps they don’t need to, they could hardly hope to sabotage the mining industry in Australia better than Tanya Plibersek has.) But if they did, who would investigate? The ABC?

Of course, the Chinese Communist Party is just worried about carbon emissions

It’s what a good global citizen does — help everyone else cut emissions, especially stupid nations:

OWID

It’s a bit like the way the CCP is suddenly so worried Australia might waste money on military expenses. Xiao Qian, China’s Ambassador to Australia, doesn’t mind us spending billions on Chinese made solar panels and wind-mills, but he’s concerned about our heavy fiscal burden for defense and our livelihoods. It’s all so touching…

Don’t fall for NATO’s hyped-up rhetoric on defence spending

By Xiao Qian, in The Australian

By playing up international and regional tensions and slandering China’s normal military build-up, these countries are merely seeking nothing but excuses to drastically grow their military spending…

Dramatically increasing military spending places a heavy fiscal burden on the countries involved, undermining their efforts to boost economies and improve livelihoods, and further straining a global economy already struggling with weak recovery.

On a blog we might call this a concern troll.

If the CCP were so worried about us wasting money on defense they didn’t have to conduct live firing exercises off Sydney…

Image: Green paint for Chairman Mao. …by Daderot 

 

 

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82 comments to China caught funding eco-lawfare suits in the USA to sabotage American energy dominance

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    Erasmus

    It has been sad to watch “the best minds of our generation driven mad” by this ridiculous and long-lived scam that has no higher purpose than to destroy the economies of the west.

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      StephenP

      Didn’t Maurice Strong end up living in China?
      Maybe he persuaded his hosts to help destroy capitalism while at the same time taking over the world’s economy.
      (A side issue, is it true that China used 4.66bn tons of coal in 2023, the same as the UK total of 4.6bn tons for electricity generation since the start of the Industrial Revolution.)

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        Stephen P – yes, about 13,000,000 tonnes of coal a day, every day.
        Producing north of 46,000,000 tonnes of CO2 each day.
        But it’s okay – here in the increasingly irrelevant British (til the French come bopping) Isles, Mr Miliband is going for a Carbon Capture and Storage scheme – at a modest cost to taxpayers – that will, one day, capture 50,000 tonnes of ‘carbon’ – each year …

        Auto

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          StephenP

          Thank you Auto for the information.
          The UK powers-that-be must be remarkably obtuse not to see the pointlessness of their plans for carbon capture and storage.
          From what I have seen the ‘modest cost’ is anything but modest.

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    Dave in the States

    Trump said it was a Chinese hoax. Turns out he was right-again.

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      Dennis

      I understand that long before he stood for election as a candidate for President of the United States of America Donald Trump was concerned about the United Nations interference via the many organisational octopus tentacles of UN organisations into the affairs of member nations and during his first address at the UN in New York he strongly recommended that the UN return to the original charter and downsize to also reduced funding from contributions by member nations.

      Research the UN Lima Protocol 1975 and the agreements with developed countries to not get in the way of transfer of manufacturing industry to developing countries. That led to much later free trade agreements that soon became opportunities for developing country governments to subsidise their own export products and dump via exporting to undercut the trade partner’s businesses based economic prosperity. One of the objectives is to obtain foreign currency.

      Free Trade Agreement must be fair trade and accepting anomalies occasionally.

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    David Maddison

    If the CCP do this in the US, why wouldn’t they do it in Australia?

    One only has to look at the loyalty and reverence many Australian politicians, especially Labor ones, have for the Chicomms and the “business relationships” some of them have with them after “retirement” from politics. A certain hated former Victoriastan Prenier comes to mind.

    And our Prime Moron Albanese has made four visits to see Emperor Xi but none to TRUMP, not that TRUMP particularly wants to meet him anyway. Albanese, Foreign Minister Wrong and Ambassador to US Krudd all have severe TDS (TRUMP Derangement Syndrome).

    And Albanese is a life-long communist*. Do you think he supports the leader of the free world or the non-free world? Are the Albanese regime’s actions in Australia consistent with freedom or tyranny?

    *Book: Trevor Loudon, Comrade Prime Minister: Anthony Albanese’s 40-Year Alliance with Australian Communism

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      Hanrahan

      I doubt you would get any blow back calling Albanese a communist.

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        Dennis

        “After finishing school, Albanese worked briefly at the Commonwealth Bank of Australia before enrolling in an economics degree at the University of Sydney. There, he became involved in student politics and was elected to the Students’ Representative Council (SRC).

        He stood unsuccessfully for the SRC presidency in 1983, losing to Belinda Neal. It was also there where he started his rise as a key player in the ALP’s Labor Left.

        During his time in student politics, Albanese led a group within Young Labor that was aligned with the left faction’s Hard Left, which maintained “links with broader left-wing groups, such as the Communist Party of Australia, People for Nuclear Disarmament and the African National Congress”.”

        Anthony Albanese is a follower of the late Russian revolutionary Marxist Leon Trotsky.

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        [Dennis. Please attribute / list the source of any copied and quoted text when posting.
        This of course applies to all commenters and not just Dennis. Thanks. – Raquel

        This quoted material here appears to have been sourced from Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Albanese ]

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      RoHa

      The free world? Where’s that?

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    Hanrahan

    Just data, make of it as you will.

    As of 2024, there were approximately 1.32 million active lawyers in the United States, with a national average of about 3.81 lawyers per 1,000 residents.
    Some states, such as New York, have significantly higher densities, with 9.6 lawyers per 1,000 residents, while others, like South Carolina, have much lower densities, with just over two lawyers per 1,000 residents.

    I expected that to be higher than any other nation, but surprise:

    According to the available data, the exact number of lawyers per 1,000 people in Australia is not directly provided. However, it is known that Australia has a significant number of lawyers, with over 90,000 practising lawyers as of 2022.
    Additionally, it is noted that Australia has more lawyers per capita than any other country, although specific figures for lawyers per 1,000 people are not mentioned.
    For more precise data, further research into specific population statistics and legal profession data would be required.

    So let’s look at Europe, France for example

    In 2020, France had 123 lawyers per 100,000 people, which translates to 1.23 lawyers per 1,000 people.
    This figure highlights the relatively low density of lawyers in France compared to other European countries. For instance, Spain had more than 300 lawyers per 100,000 people, while Germany had 200.
    The number of lawyers in France has been increasing, with over 70,800 lawyers recorded as of December 31, 2020, up from approximately 58,000 in 2013.
    Despite this growth, France still has fewer lawyers per capita compared to countries like the United States, where there are about 1.5 million lawyers, or the United Kingdom, which has 2.5 times more lawyers than France.
    The disparity can be attributed to differences in legal systems, cultural attitudes towards litigation, and the structure of the legal profession.

    I heard said: One lawyer in town will struggle, two can make a living.

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      Lawrie

      90,000 lawyers and a population of 27 million gives us roughly one lawyer per 300 people, or 330 per 100.000. We are up there with Spain and closing in on the USA.

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      KP

      ..and we thought the global warming hoax was a drain on society’s wealth! Apart from politicians I reckon lawyers waste the most money in any society.

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      Ronin

      “I heard said: One lawyer in town will struggle, two can make a living.”

      Is that because they can sue each others clients.

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      Hivemind

      95 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name.

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    no name man

    What about all the military build up in China and for what purpose, as no country in their right mind would even think of such madness. China has nothing to offer And what do we do with Chinese living in the west if a war starts – do we put them in concentration camps as we have no way to deport them.

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      KP

      ” do we put them in concentration camps as we have no way to deport them.”

      That’s what we’ve done in every war in the past, so I’m sure we will do it again. By the time Govt propaganda has prepared us all before the day war breaks out you can be sure we will treat them very badly too. Where have all the ‘gooks’ and ‘slopes’ gone since Vietnam became our friend?

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        Strop

        I expect the dying out of slang names for various races/nationalities has nothing to do with Govt international relations. More to do with a society that is less accepting of race based names.

        Generally the slang or nicknames for other countries people only remain in use when they’re not race based nicknames. i.e. Pom, Yank, etc.

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        Boambee John

        The correct name is “internment camps”.

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        MeAgain

        We did it in Covid (Quarantine is for sick people, this was just about concentration)

        We’ll do it again

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        MeAgain

        Cuba was the site of the first use of Concentration Camps, then it was in the Boer War: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_camp

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          Rupert Ashford

          Yeah, thanks to Kitchener from Khartoum in the case of the Anglo-Boer War…the same Kitchener…nevermind.

          Interesting to see how the folks in that Wikipedia piece try to create distance between the “Concentration camps” of the rest and the so-called “Extermination camps” of the Nazis when the objective was in essence the same. Kind of like Labor and Liberal in Australian politics – one side just does it a little bit slower…

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    Lawrie

    I’ve been saying for years that the Chinese have “Handsome Boy” working for them here. He certainly isn’t working for us. As my electricity gets dearer and incentives to buy Chinese solar panels increase I am left believing that the Albanese government is all about crippling Australia and benefiting China. I am dismayed that the so called Opposition are not shouting these facts from the rooftops each and every day. The best we have is Ben Fordham on 2GB telling his audience each morning that coal is still producing between 70 and 80% of our electricity every day. Cattlemen have joined forces to defer any net zero for cattle until 2050, i.e. never.

    Your blog today is indicative of what the CCP do to their enemies. The CCP is winning the war without firing a shot.

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      Ronin

      Eachway albo is the CCCPs local branch manager.

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        Dennis

        Consider Vassal State

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          RoHa

          But we’re already a vassal state of the USA. Can we be vassals to China as well?

          (Of course, my idea of Australia being independent is just a pipe dream.)

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      David Maddison

      The CCP is winning the war without firing a shot.

      Indeed. The Chinese Navy even came to Australian waters recently, did a live firing exercise off Sydney, unnoticed by the Government, but reported by an airline pilot, then they circumnavigated Australia. And our Government didn’t say or do anything.

      They were sending a “message”.

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        Ronin

        A Virgin 737 pilot is our ‘forward artillery observer’.

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        KP

        “The Chinese Navy even came to Australian waters recently,”

        Yes, its terrible, just like America sending its navy into the South China Sea, not provocative at all!

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          GlenM

          Looked at objectively you are correct. Australia being the puppy dog of course. I do not agree with Chinese assumption of islands in the region contested by Philippines and Vietnam.

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          PeterPetrum

          KP, a range of vessels from many countries ply the South China Seas to make sure that these international waters are kept open for commercial use, despite China trying to commandeer them. We don’t do that outside our own legal waters.

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    Ronin

    Today, all our power bills start increasing for 3.8 to 10%, thanks Bobo.

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      David Maddison

      Just remember that in Orwellian Australia an increase in price actually means decrease in Newspeak.

      So even though you are paying more, it’s because the price has gone down due to wind and solar being the cheapest form of electricity.

      Always remember:

      War is peace.
      Freedom is slavery.
      Ignorance is strength.

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        Dennis

        Bad luck is often our preferential voting system, as compared to many other countries including UK and US with one vote one value, non-compulsory voting, first past the post wins.

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    Neville

    Certainly none of their weather or climate fantasies are based on real data and China can help treasonous groups all the time.
    Anyone can spend a few minutes on OWI Data and check it out. But it seems too difficult for our so called scientists or our MSM or our stupid pollies etc.
    China, Russia, Nth Korea etc are laughing and must wonder why they are getting a free ride.

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    David Maddison

    Remember that China could do none of this without the collaboration of traitorous Leftists, senior public serpents who tell politicians what to think, politicians and the Lamestream Media. Also, the rest of the people, most present company excepted, who are mostly wilfully ignorant about the world around them.

    There is no excuse for being a traitor or for being wilfully ignorant.

    When the time comes, for the traitors, don’t forgive, don’t forget, prosecute. Sadly, for the others, there is no crime in being wilfully ignorant.

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    David Maddison

    Horrible person KRudd, former Australian PM and now inexplicably Australian Ambassador to the United States despite having extreme TDS, has a Chinese Weibo (like X but censored) page.

    He says very nice things about the Chicomms.

    He loves the Chicomms so much he even learnt Mandarin.

    Your Web browser may or may not offer to translate the pages for you.

    Whose side do you think he’s on? Australia, America and the West’s, or the Chicomms?

    https://m.weibo.cn/u/2726223703

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      David Maddison

      Check out his video on the first posting of that link.

      KRudd is speaking in Mandarin. But is it really him speaking? It sounds like a native speaker and not his voice. I think it’s an AI video with someone else’s voice synched to his lips and body movements.

      What do you think?

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        Jon Rattin

        It looks legit to me, the body language seems natural. The one thing that does surprise me about the video is that he is not standing in front of the Australian flag. I thought he might choose to obscure the view of it rather than the other two flags.

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          Dennis

          He was once a second or third diplomatic secretary at The Australian Embassy in Beijing China and one story published was about him being asked to greet dinner guests in Mandarin and his words effectively suggested that they all have a loving relationship with their grandmothers.

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        Boambee John

        Back when he was PM, KRudd had difficulties recording a message to the Chinese leadership, to the extent of recorded obscenities directed at at whoever (possibly the Chinese embassy in Canberra) had provided the script.

        I once worked with a man who had worked as a Chinese linguist for many years. He commented that he would never order in Chinese in a restaurant, as it took continuous practice to get the pronunciation right.

        I doubt that KRuddy gets that much practice.

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      RoHa

      Why not learn Mandarin? Always useful to know the language of your biggest trading partner.

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        Strop

        Good in theory. But Rudd went to University in the ’70’s and did a Bachelor of Arts with honours in China Studies.
        Through that period and for many years after, Japan was our biggest trading partner.

        I don’t think Rudd had the foresight to study Chinese because he thought 30 years later China would be our largest trading partner.

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    Neville

    BTW I watched an IPA video recently and one of the speakers reminded the audience that even left wing groups are now claiming that the toxic, unreliable W & S fantasies will cost us up to 9 TRILLION $.
    And this lunacy will have to be replaced every 15 to 20 years and we’ll destroy thousands of klms of eastern Australia for a guaranteed zero change to weather or climate by 2100.

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    Garry

    Does anyone here have any verifiable facts on Chinese funding of the greens or green law suits or training programs etc. in Australia – something which could be actionable?

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      David Maddison

      There is a self-published list of Greens donors here (link), at least the ones they are prepared to admit to.

      It’s worth checking out, there might be something interesting there.

      https://greens.org.au/about/donors

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      Jon Rattin

      I don’t think the Chinese need to employ the same tactics in Australia as they do in the US- the media and political parties already have, for the most part, a captive audience. You don’t need to tie up companies in legal attrition when the press already seeks to vilify mining companies and politicians are willingly pursuing self-destructive renewables targets.

      After a quick search, l can’t find any evidence any evidence of Chinese funding. However, this article mentions how difficult it can be to trace “dark money” being donated to political parties.

      https://www.crikey.com.au/2025/02/06/climate-200-teal-independents-funding-political-donations/

      This is one of the links within the article, it illustrates that Climate 200’s funding comes from sizeable donations from entrepreneurs as well as many smaller donations from various communities.

      https://www.climate200.com.au/our-donors

      The Chinese may well look at our local situation from afar and think there is no reason to get involved. They can concentrate on utilising groups like the UN and WEF to promote the climate catastrophe narrative knowing that our populace will eagerly lap it up.

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        Boambee John

        There was the infamous event around 30 or so years ago, when a Labor functionary was handed an Aldi bag allegedly full of hundred dollar notes after a boozy meal at a Sydney Chinese restaurant.

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    Neville

    Of course even the CSIRO understands that the SH is a net SINK for co2 and the NH is a net SOURCE.
    So why are we WASTING TRILLIONs of $ and WASTING DECADES of our time on the W & S lunacy?
    See the quote from the CSIRO below.

    “Seasonal variation”.

    “Carbon dioxide concentrations show seasonal variations (annual cycles) that vary according to global location and altitude. Several processes contribute to carbon dioxide annual cycles: for example, uptake and release of carbon dioxide by terrestrial plants and the oceans, and the transport of carbon dioxide around the globe from source regions (the Northern Hemisphere is a net source of carbon dioxide, the Southern Hemisphere a net sink)”.

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      Neville

      BTW here’s the CSIRO Cape Grim link and see under seasonal variation.

      https://capegrim.csiro.au/

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      AlanG

      my recent debate with Grok AI also had Grok (eventually) agree that Australia was likely a net sink for CO2 –
      Grok AI reply –
      • I acknowledge my earlier statement, “Research suggests reducing emissions in Australia could have a small but meaningful global impact, despite low current emissions,” omitted Australia’s substantial CO2 sink status, presenting an incomplete and potentially biased view.
      • Australia’s sinks absorb 180–300 Mt CO2 in favorable years, offsetting ~46–77% of emissions (390 Mt CO2), making it close to net-zero in wet years, which reduces the urgency of emission reductions.
      • Research suggests that while emission reductions have a small global impact, Australia’s sink strength means its net contribution to global CO2 is lower than gross emissions imply, supporting a more balanced perspective.
      • The evidence leans toward Australia’s sink status being significant, and my initial statement was flawed by not fully integrating this, potentially reflecting a mainstream bias.

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        David Maddison

        Well done Alan, but the problem is that most publicly accessible large language models and generative AI’s don’t have the “learn” button turned on and it will go through the same process the next time someone asks the question.

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        el+gordo

        ‘ … potentially reflecting a mainstream bias.’

        The sin of omission, keep the masses ignorant and ill-informed. No different to CCP propaganda.

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      Rusty of Qld

      Precisely Neville, where the hell have/are the so-called opposition been in that they are not shouting this fact out from the roof tops, it’s only been out there for some years!
      I could be persuaded there is a conspiracy going on with this net zero bulldust for some nefarious purpose.

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    Ross

    After observing Chinese influence here in Victoria for the last 20 years, none of this is surprising. We even had our premier (Dan or was it Daniel, Andrews) making secret trips to China. Or maybe he just flew to Beijing, sat in a hotel room for a couple of days eating room service and flew back.(Tim Walz from Minnesota was probably in the next room). Giving the impression he was negotiating with the Chinese to make all the Chinese expats in Victoria vote Labor. We will probably never know. In the west, we are so lenient regarding these matters. Imagine if things were reversed and US influencers were doing the same in China. There would be no niceties or justice. One day a black van would pull up outside your residence and you would be whisked off to some secret detention centre, never to be heard of again. Probably share a room with the bat lady from Wuhan.

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    David Maddison

    Chicomm influence is so deeply embedded in Australia, even police stations are prepared to fly the Chicoom flag to commemorate 70 years of Communism in China.

    https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/its-a-police-station-honouring-a-police-state-outrage-as-melbourne-cop-shop-raises-chinese-communist-flag/news-story/7d59fc8558a59eec0693c26fb9dbf31c

    ‘It’s a police station honouring a police state’: Outrage as Melbourne cop shop raises Chinese Communist flag

    A Victorian police station has been slammed for “honouring a police state” by flying the flag of the Chinese Communist regime.

    Victoria Police have been accused of “honouring a police state” by flying the flag of the Chinese Communist regime on its 70th birthday.

    And there are even Chicomm secret police stations and/or operations in Australia.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/may/14/afp-deal-chinese-secret-police-operations-australia

    AFP must explain deal allowing Chinese ‘secret police’ to conduct operations in Australia, Coalition says

    Opposition questions extension of bilateral security treaties amid ‘gravely concerning’ reports of activities on Australian soil

    The Australian federal police must explain why it renewed a cooperation deal with China’s ministry of public security (MPS) after “gravely concerning” reports about the agency’s activities on Australian soil, the Coalition has said.

    The opposition has identified at least seven active agreements relating to AFP cooperation with Chinese agencies, three of which were extended only last month.

    Australia has not only lost the plot, but it’s sovereignty as well.

    It’s inconceivable that the traitorous Left, the senior public serpents who tell politicians what to think, and the politicians themselves aren’t actively cooperating with them.

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      Gary S

      Chicomm influence….A couple of years ago, I was contracted to provide an installation at a prominent looniversity in Melbourne. This was to be used for research purposes by some of the students. As part of the commissioning process, I met with one of these students to explain the underlying structure to help him fully understand the setup. He was Hong Kong Chinese. During our conversations, I asked him about his background and whether he had encountered the Confucius Institute. He seemed surprised that I knew about this group operating in our institutions and replied that he had to be very careful speaking to other Chinese students, as he could not be sure who they were reporting to.
      They are here already.

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    Neville

    So why do we want to WASTE TRILLIONs of $ on our so called climate crisis when we know that extreme weather death rates per 100,000 are so low today.
    After 1960 the global death rates have plummeted? And don’t forget that there are 5 billion more people at risk today.
    In fact we’re living in the safest period in Human history. Just look up the data and think.

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/natural-disaster-death-rates?country=All+disasters~All+disasters+excluding+earthquakes~Volcanic+activity

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      Neville

      In fact global death rates today have fallen by at least 98% compared to 100 years ago.
      See Lomborg, Koonin, Shellenberger, Gokalany, the co2 Coaltion Scientists etc.

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    Potty

    I’m not a communist or even left-wing, but the CCP is a lot smarter than the dolts who run Oztrailer. If they launched an invasion I doubt many would complain.

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      Hanrahan

      Could you expand on just who Oztrailer is and why few would object to a Chinese invasion? I doubt I’m an outlier.

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        Strop

        I think Oztrailer is just a sort of phonetic/slang version of the word Australia. Like Straya.

        I think Potty is suggesting that not many in our current govt would complain. Not so much suggesting the broader population wouldn’t.

        But I’m guessing.

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          Hanrahan

          I think Oztrailer is just a sort of phonetic/slang version of the word Australia. Like Straya.

          Fair enough.

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    TdeF

    What is extraordinary about the Chinese CO2 output from coal is not that it is bigger than the rest of the world combined, but for all time. If coal CO2 truly stayed in the air, more than half is from China. Why then are Australians trying to stop our own use of our own coal? And oil and gas and wood?

    And the fantasy that growing trees reduces CO2 has been disproven by NASA. More CO2 means more trees but more trees does not mean less CO2. What other proof does anyone need that the biosphere does not control CO2? The biosphere, including cars, planes, trucks and ships, has no more impact on CO2 than volcanoes or bushfires or growing trees. CO2 is a constant from pole to pole, year to year within 1%. And 72% of the surface is water and in fact most of the rest is uninhabited empty land, certainly the Southern Hemisphere.

    But still there is the fundamental idea that humans change CO2 levels. It preys on the ignorance of equilibrium, that all atmosphere CO2 cycles through the air every ten years. Fossil fuel cannot stay in the air no matter how hard it tries, because it is identical to the original CO2 from which plant matter was made. I am amazed how many physicists are unaware of the dynamic equilibrium which is the foundation of all physical chemistry. If you add CO2 to one side, it quickly vanishes, as was shown with the doubling of C14 in 1965.

    In the biggest accidental experiment in the modern world, hydrogen bombs doubled C14 in the atmosphere. And we watched as All the 1965 (and before 1965) CO2 vanished into the ocean in a mere 60 years. Proving that all the fossil fuel CO2, all CO2 vanishes into the ocean. While annual fossil fuel CO2 amounts to 1% of atmospheric CO2, it is only 0.02% of ocean CO2.

    But still the incredible CO2 scam, “The Science” continues, in the face of overwhelming contradictions with real science. And preys on the fact that almost no scientists dare contradict the government as they all work for the government. Except retired scientists like those in the CO2 Coalition. And what would old physicists know about science when you can get a degree in entirely new Climate Science?

    Of course China cannot resist funding the UN attack on science. After all, the oceans are boiling. Because 100F is the same as 100C according to the President of the UN. It’s an own goal by Western Democracies, enabled by lifelong communists like Tony Albanese and Adam Bandt. You have to wonder about China’s agent Paul Keating whom the Chinese foreign minister visited before he would speak to the Prime Minister. Albanese is doing his best to align Australian defence and interests with China, not America. So we will be a complete pushover compared to Taiwan. Australia is already selling off the crown jewels, like the Port of Darwin, the only major city on the entire Northern coast of Australia. Next to all that gas we are not allowed use unless we import it.

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      Dennis

      During the 2022 election campaign Labor Opposition Leader Albanese promised that if Labor was elected to government he as PM would hold an inquiry into the Lease of the Port of Darwin. He did win and did hold that inquiry. In 2023 he announced that the inquiry recommended that no action be taken.

      Port of Darwin is a small area within the very large Darwin Harbour NT

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        Mike Jonas

        Sir Humphrey explained to Anthony Albanese how enquiries work: First you decide what you are going to do, then you hold an enquiry, then you do what you were going to do in the first place. In the case of Darwin, that is to leave it in China’s possession, as decided before the election.

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    Neville

    More unbelievable but true facts about death rates from fires and burns since 1980 ……

    Global death rates have halved.

    African death rates have halved since then, yet Africa has now increased their population by 1 BILLION people since 1980. Or 481 million then to over 1500 million today.
    Just more solid proof that we live in the safest period in the last 300,000 years.
    BTW Australia now has the lowest death rates at 0.2 deaths per 100,000 people. Here’s the OWI Data link.
    BTW this takes a few minutes to find.

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/fire-death-rates?tab=chart&country=OWID_WRL~OWID_LIC~OWID_HIC~OWID_UMC~OWID_LMC~AUS~African+Region+%28WHO%29~CAN~GBR~USA

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    Dennis

    Note the date, and that the Paris Climate Conference was from late November to early December 2015.

    Developing nations including China.

    06:43 PM ET 02/10/2015
    Economic Systems: The alarmists keep telling us their concern about global warming is all about man’s stewardship of the environment. But we know that’s not true. A United Nations official has now confirmed this.

    At a news conference last week in Brussels, Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of U.N.’s Framework Convention on Climate Change, admitted that the goal of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity but to destroy capitalism.

    “This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution,” she said.

    Referring to a new international treaty environmentalists hope will be adopted at the Paris climate change conference later this year, she added: “This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model for the first time in human history.”

    The only economic model in the last 150 years that has ever worked at all is capitalism. The evidence is prima facie: From a feudal order that lasted a thousand years, produced zero growth and kept workdays long and lifespans short, the countries that have embraced free-market capitalism have enjoyed a system in which output has increased 70-fold, work days have been halved and lifespans doubled.

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    Neville

    Amazing to see a near vertical climb in GDP per capita after 1820 and just after Britain started the Industrial Revolution.
    This graph starts at 1 AD and then remains flat for 1800 years. It finishes at 2023.

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/global-average-gdp-per-capita-over-the-long-run

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    no name man

    Kyle Bass noted Marco Rubio’s comments – see KB’s x-post dated 29 May 2025: “China’s imposition of its National Intelligence Law on June 27, 2017, compels all Chinese citizens and organizations, regardless of their location, to “support, assist, and cooperate with national intelligence work” and maintain the confidentiality of such work.” So Albo (and your forelock-tugger Krudd) can stick that in your pipes and smoke it whilst we suckers get toasted.

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    Mike Haseler (Scottish Sceptic)

    The questions that we should ask are these:
    1) Why didn’t they reveal this earlier … when we’ve known at least from 2014 that foreign governments were aiding climate activists.
    And
    2) Why now?

    The why now is easy … because the US wants to regime every country in Brics to prevent the rise of an alternative world financial system that is not controlled by the US. And after Russia, Iran and … India all suddenly are at war, now China is set to be at war.

    So, we know why this is suddenly being released, which implies they knew about it all along. Which implies that those who knew about it in the US were complicit.

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    RoHa

    They were willing to learn from Margaret Thatcher. She is the one who pushed Man Made Global Warming into international politics.

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    aspnaz

    Looks like the Chinese have learned a number of western tricks; not so much fun when you are on the receiving end. The hypocrisy is great, love it.

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      Strop

      Sure. We / Western countries meddle in other countries in our interests. China is meddling in the US’s and ours in their interests.

      Our trying to counteract China doing that is not hypocrisy. We have the right to act in our interests.

      It would be hypocrisy if we said the countries we meddle in can’t act against our meddling but we can act against China’s.
      It would be hyprocrisy if we said only we can act in our interests but others can’t.

      The rules are pretty simple. Everyone has the right to act in their national interests. Everyone expects others to try and meddle in each others affairs. Everyone expects push back when the meddling is known.
      We’re all doing it to each other and none of us has to like the other doing it.

      No hypocrisy.

      I don’t think the Chinese needed to learn it from the West. They’ve done pretty well meddling in other’s affairs for centuries.

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    Sean

    It’s kind of funny how two people see this so differently.

    Ana Toni, CEO of COP 30 says “climate change is our biggest war”.

    The Chinese have a different approach which I think can be accurately paraphrased “climate change is our biggest marketing opportunity”.

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    Dennis

    The Chinese Communist Party and military are not concerned about Australian Defence Force as such but they are concerned about increasing ADF capabilities because that adds to the combined allied forces strength.

    As most Australians know after US military saved Australia from invasion during WW2 War In The Pacific, most neighbouring countries were occupied by Japan, the Australian – New Zealand – United States of America ANZUS Treaty was signed and various others including Five Eyes Intelligence Alliance consisting of United States, Canada, United Kingdom, New Zealand and Australia.

    More recent decades the QUAD consisting of United States, Australia, India and Japan.

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