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Weekend Unthreaded Again

There is a lot to talk about.

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250 comments to Weekend Unthreaded Again

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    Raving

    Should be weekend reunthreaded

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    Destroyer D69

    Right on cue,Chicken Little is in makeup ready for his appearance in the next episode of “The next deadly Covid Variant”serial. This one should,more accurately have been called the Psi variant as it is the latest release in the PsiOP series of infections.

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      OriginalSteve

      Well, if I recall, there was a prediction that as serious resistance to the vaccination push really got going, the Elite would pull out another “surprise” to basically lock everyone down to crush the resistance….

      Pro freedom rallies are growing, so the Elite are starting to panic.

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        OldOzzie

        Public will not comply with any more Covid restrictions, UK government fears

        People may not be willing to accept further coronavirus restrictions and the government will have to find a different policy if the majority refuse to back tougher curbs, Professor Chris Whitty has suggested.

        The chief medical officer for England said his “greatest worry at the moment” was that the public would not consent to another round of restrictions on their daily lives after nearly two years of being constrained by the pandemic.

        Though he said it was too early to speculate whether fresh measures would be needed to deal with the Omicron variant, Whitty offered a relatively upbeat assessment of the Delta epidemic in Britain, saying the outlook was “actually reasonably manageable”.

        He accepted that polling currently suggested support for restrictions if needed, but was nevertheless concerned about “behavioural fatigue”, fear of which delayed the imposition of the first lockdown last year.

        Whitty was one of the proponents of the idea that restrictions could not be imposed too early or people would give up on them. That concern that ultimately proved unfounded, but he told council chiefs that he was still worried about public consent to any further measures scientists might feel were needed.

        He said: “My greatest worry at the moment is that if we need to do something more muscular, at some point, whether it’s for the current new variant or at some later stage, can we still take people with us?”

        From the Comments

        “The new Omicron variant of the Coronavirus results in MILD disease, WITHOUT prominent symptoms.” -Angelique Coetzee, the chairwoman of the South African Medical Association.

        You are going to die one day of something. Might as well live rather than exist, before that happens.

        Alice laughed. “There’s no use trying,” she said: “one can’t believe impossible things.” “I daresay you haven’t had much practice,” said the Queen. “When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.”

        We have two options here. First, continue with lockdowns and living in fear of a virus with a mortality rate under 1%. Second, no more lockdowns, increase hospital and ICU capacity permanently, and accept that unfortunately a few more people will die. I suspect, after two years of this, more and more people are over it and want option two. I personally would rather live freely and take my chances with Delta, Omicron or whatever comes next than live in permanent fear of the next lockdown (double vaxxed before anyone accuses me of being an anti vaxxer)

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      yarpos

      Its good though that our new virus waited until maximum sales had been achieved for 1st gen heart meds. That was handy.

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    Graeme No.3

    Destroyer D69:

    Remember Raving is the best troll the WOKE side can come up with. Which reminds me, what has happened to Peter Fitzroy? Has he caught covid (despite being double vaccinated) and is isolating? Or has he served his time as a Troll and retired deflated? Or has he been caught molesting an underage koala and been banned from the internet by the Cricket Board?

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    farmerbraun

    “Well ,that escalated quickly” LOL.
    “In the last 90 minutes” Australia has “cracked down (up?)” on something or other.
    But wait there’s more – Omigod variant may be resistant to antivirals (but not the really expensive ones) , like ivermectin, yep you guessed it – saw that one coming.

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    farmerbraun

    Don’t muck around folks. What’s the bet that molnupiravir and the other one have already been “tested ” and found to be 97% “effective ” against Omicron?
    Get into those Big Pharma stocks now , and beat the rush.

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    Rod

    Oh look…a new “scariant” called Omicron has emerged right on cue. The masses have woken up and threaten the NWO plans so…
    The cycle repeats:
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFJqAvHVcAEjNVO?format=jpg&name=small

    Any retired (not employed so as not to be influenced by salary and funding) virologists or immunologists want to evaluate this new puppy and the evolutionary probability of its natural emergence vs the probability of its emergence due to mass vaccination during a “pandemic”?

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      Don B

      Omicron skipped over Xi in the Greek alphabet. Xi might remind people that this thing originated in China.

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      mawm

      The vaccination rate in South Africa is less than 25% and will vary wildly depending on the population. The virus is apparently quite widespread there and so far seems to be quite benign although very infectious. Did the vaccine have any effect in its mutation? From what I hear the mutations are all on the part of the spike protein that attaches to the ACE2 receptor. Robert Malone was on the Steve Bannon show the other day talking about it.

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      Yes, Rod it’s the new “scariant,” just arrived in time to renew guhvermint lockdown – the MUTANT MORONIC VIRUS.

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      Graeme No.3

      The short answer is NO.
      The right question is why don’t the existing Climate Models (nor the up-dated one there) explain sudden changes in climate esp. with the claim that CO2 levels were the same.
      What they authors are saying is that the older models on which “THE SCIENCE” relies don’t work, and the up-dated version doesn’t work either.

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        OldOzzie

        Cardinal George Pell Denounces ‘Madness’ of Climate Change Fanaticism

        Australian Cardinal George Pell has come out against climate alarmism in the third and final volume of his Prison Journal, published this month.

        The “relentless propaganda for catastrophic man-induced climate change continues unabashed,” Cardinal Pell laments, while slamming absurd attempts to link bush fires to coal mining.

        In Pell’s analysis, the hysteria of climate alarmists assumes a distinctly religious ardor, filling a void in the post-Christian West.

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      OldOzzie

      What Global Warming? – 17C inside house in November, usually the coldest it gets in Winter – current Sydney Temp 17.5C

      Has to be the coldest and windiest November I have known here in Sydney

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      el+gordo

      Understanding the Modern Solar Max.

      https://imgur.com/xw8sT8u

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        el+gordo

        And the mechanism involved.

        ‘Paleo evidence also suggests that solar activity modulates temperature and pressure at Northern Hemisphere mid-to-high latitudes, especially in continental regions, by altering the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) and its more zonal expression, the Northern Annular Mode (NAM).’ (Judith Lean 2017)

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      OldOzzie

      New Research: Hot Women Don’t Feel Cold?

      Surprisingly, a group of female graduate students from the psychology departments at the University of Florida and Colorado College decided to conduct a study on this phenomenon. What they found was that for many women, looking “hot” means not feeling cold.

      HOW MANY POINTS FOR TOTALLY NAKED EXCEPT FOR HIGH HEELS?

      The researchers, over the course of five cold February nights, surveyed 224 two-legged “polar bears” in a Southeast U.S. city known for its nightlife. The participants were asked how cold they felt on a six-point scale from “not cold at all” to “extremely cold.” Naturally, the participants were also asked how many alcoholic drinks they’d had (a scale from 0 to 8 or more).

      They also considered the amount of clothing the polar bears were wearing. Participants were coded based on whether the following body parts were exposed: chest, shoulders, back, legs, midriff, and toes (open-toed shoes). The researchers also noted whether the participants were wearing jeans with large cooling vents in them, aka rips, and whether, of course, they were wearing jackets.

      The participants earned either a 1 or a 0, with 1 indicating the body part in question was exposed and a 0 indicating it wasn’t. (Each participant received a glow-in-the-dark bracelet for their participation, which is nice.)

      The skimpy clothing scores were then compared to women’s perceptions of coldness while also taking into consideration alcohol consumption.

      WHAT THE STUDY REVEALED – OTHER THAN WHAT WAS ALREADY SHOWING

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    another ian

    Omicron – in this instance more correctly

    “O MY Cron”

    “Cron ” being “The cron command-line utility, also known as cron job[1][2] is a job scheduler on Unix-like operating systems. Users who set up and maintain software environments use cron to schedule jobs[3] (commands or shell scripts) to run periodically at fixed times, dates, or intervals.[4] It typically automates system maintenance or administration—though its general-purpose nature makes it useful for things like downloading files from the Internet and downloading email at regular intervals”

    And we seemed to be waiting for the next instance

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    another ian

    Seems there are some bloody good crystal balls around!

    “Novavax Developing Vaccine Against Variant That Appeared 72 Hours Ago – Will Be Ready in Two Weeks, Already in Emergency Use Trials in Indonesia and Phillipines
    November 26, 2021 | Sundance | 72 Comments”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/11/26/novavax-developing-vaccine-against-variant-that-appeared-72-hours-ago-will-be-ready-in-two-weeks-already-in-emergency-use-trials-in-indonesia-and-phillipines/

    Something to do with #6?

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    Raving

    From CNN. Not often that I see such a challenge to the settled science

    The Arctic Ocean began warming decades earlier than previously thought, new research shows

    The Arctic Ocean has been warming up for much longer than we previously thought," Muschitiello told CNN. "And this is something that's a bit unsettling for many reasons, especially because the climate models that we use to cast projections of future climate change do not really simulate these type of changes."

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    Dennis

    EV transition is too slow in Australia, apparently, according to the fans and profiteers anxious to increase their income from sales.

    The Weekend Australian today has another EV supplement inside and an article recommending tax-free status for EV to lower the retail prices and encourage more interest in buying them. Over one third of the retail price could be cut without taxes the article claims. I did a quick calculation and that would result in the popular Tesla Model 3 cheapest version (popular as a percentage of a tiny percentage of new car sales in Australia) lowering price from $59,900 to $40,000 for a medium size car, Mazda 3 ICEV is $28,590

    The free enterprise, free market let consumers pick winners and losers on merit system succeeded in raising economic prosperity in developed nations, government interference such as spreading the tax discount across all taxpayers to benefit higher income and company car drivers is unfair. It should be up to EV manufacturers to produce competitive vehicles, taxes are the main source of revenue for government.

    It’s like the left’s demand for coal mining and burning to be stopped with no consideration for the loss of export earnings, taxes and employment the coal industry provides.

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      Raving

      It’s absurd to complain about slow EV adoption. If one were to believe the reports, there will be a global shortage of EVs being throttled by a lack of batteries.

      Who gets their EV first is early adoption vanity.

      If it were a matter or reducing emissions then maximum vehicle usage would set the priority

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        Ronin

        “there will be a global shortage of EVs being throttled by a lack of batteries.”

        Not to mention a global shortage of electricity.

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          Harves

          EVs will contribute to the grid. At night you just plug your car powers the grid during peak electricity usage and then the grid charges your car with all the excess solar and wind during the day. As long as you never actually want to drive anywhere it’s a fantastic model.

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            Harves
            November 27, 2021 at 8:34 pm · Reply
            EVs will contribute to the grid. At night you just plug your car powers the grid during peak electricity usage and then the grid charges your car with all the excess solar and wind during the day

            …yes but…..
            ..Only if your EV and your house are equiped with “V2G” technology….
            …and very few are !

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              yarpos

              Yep like a lot of EV/RE tech, functions and capabilities are often spoken about in the MSM as if they exist, they work and are widely deployable and affordable and have no downside consequences.

              Layers of fanboy drivel.

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              OldOzzie

              Expensive with Time of Day Charging

              Peak: 2pm to 8pm on weekdays
              Shoulder: 10pm to 7am every day

              Peak $0.539 per Kw/Hr
              Shoulder $0.2295 per Kw/Hr

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      Rowjay

      Recently had a look at a plug-in hybrid. Was almost tempted but this model had no spare tyre at all – just a can of goo to get you out of trouble – maybe.

      Definitely not designed for travel off the beaten track in Australia!

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    Dennis

    The federal government has announced travel bans and new quarantine rules amid concerns about the new Omicron COVID-19 variant circulating in southern Africa.

    Key points:

    Non-Australians who have been to nine countries where Omicron has been detected cannot enter Australia
    The countries are South Africa, Namibia, Zimbabwe, Botswana, Lesotho, Eswatini, The Seychelles, Malawi and Mozambique
    Anyone who has already arrived in Australia from one of the countries must isolate for 14 days
    Effective immediately, non-Australian citizens who have been in nine countries, including South Africa, where Omicron has been detected cannot enter Australia.

    The countries are South Africa, Namibia, Zimbabwe, Botswana, Lesotho, Eswatini, The Seychelles, Malawi and Mozambique.

    Australian citizens and their dependents who have been in those countries over the past 14 days will need to enter two weeks’ supervised quarantine.

    Additionally, anyone who has already arrived in Australia from one of the countries recently must isolate for 14 days.

    ABC Saturday

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      Forrest Gardener

      Did anybody notice the gaping hole in the arrangements? People carrying the virus out of southern africa are forbidden from entering Australia but not people from other places who have been in contact with people from southern africa.

      What does anybody think will happen on a 12 hour flight on a plane taking off with one infected person? What was the name of the cruise ship which acted as an incubator before passengers were released in Sydney?

      The horse has bolted. The authorities then carefully shut the gate.

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        Mark Allinson

        South Africa’s vaxx roll-out is going too slowly, so to help them speed things up they cop a bit of stick.

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          yarpos

          But the so called vax really isnt about infection prevention so it matters little really, but may help herd people as you say

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    KP

    Hang on! It’s been found in Hong Kong, I don’t see that on your list??

    Politicians going after easy targets as usual??

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    KP

    ..and Belgium, and Israel… Who are they trying to kid..

    Ah, they are trying to ban the filthy un-vaxed in Africa who refuse to get sick, not our friends the triple-vaxed Israelies who follow the party line!

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    David Maddison

    So, are the same failed strategies, suppression of scientific and medical debate and banning of certain off-patent drugs going to be employed for the omicron variant as have been employed to date?

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    John Connor II

    Let me guess – the new variant will produce Myocarditis.

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      John+R+Smith

      And before you even have the sniffles.
      Don’t play soccer, or football, as I guess I’m supposed to call it.
      (If I wanted waste a couple of hours watching a bunch of guys try to score unsuccessfully, I’d go to a bar with my friends.)

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    David Maddison

    What do you think are the chances that the omicron strain has 32 viable mutations in the spike protein, which is the main or only antigenic target for the vaccines, that are from natural evolution as opposed to assistance from Chicomm genetic engineers?

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      Analitik

      It’s possible that Omicron is the variant Jo has been holding out for. According to the South Africans, the symptoms are unusually mild for the infected with most people just feeling very tired for a few days.

      “Their symptoms were so different and so mild from those I had treated before,” said Dr Coetzee, a GP for 33 years who chairs the South African Medical Association alongside running her practice.

      The high number of mutations, especially around the receptor binding domain, almost assures immune escape from the spike protein vaccines which would be a huge bonus.

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/south-african-doctor-raised-alarm-omicron-variant-says-symptoms/

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      Forrest Gardener

      Having manufactured one virus it is likely that other candidates were manufactured at the same time.

      And there is no way to put the genie back in the bottle.

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      William Astley

      I agree 32 mutation sounds odd. What is the CCP’s objective if this version of covid was designed?

      It is interesting that a South African doctor is reporting that the symptoms of omicron covid variation are mild and different that covid delta.

      https://www.foxnews.com/health/south-african-doctor-omicron-variant-symptoms-unusual-mild

      The South African doctor who first alerted authorities to the presence of the COVID-19 omicron variant reported that it presents “unusual but mild” symptoms.

      Dr. Angelique Coetzee, a board member of the South African Medical Association, first noticed otherwise healthy patients demonstrating unusual symptoms on Nov. 18.
      “Their symptoms were so different and so mild from those I had treated before,” Coetzee told The Telegraph.

      “It presents mild disease with symptoms being sore muscles and tiredness for a day or two not feeling well,” Coetzee explained. “So far, we have detected that those infected do not suffer the loss of taste or smell. They might have a slight cough. There are no prominent symptoms. Of those infected some are currently being treated at home.”

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    PeterS

    If this is true about the new COVID-19 variant then the vaccinated will need to be the ones who should be locked down, not the unvaccinated. Of course even it it were true, I doubt very much the MSM will report it, and our governments take it seriously. It just doesn’t fit their evil agenda.

    GABORONE, Nov. 25 (Xinhua) — Health authorities in Botswana announced Thursday that four cases of a new COVID-19 variant now known as B.1.1.529 were reported and recorded on Nov. 22 this year.

    The four cases were detected among travelers who tested SARS-COV-2 positive on routine pre-travel testing, the Coordinator of Botswana’s Presidential COVID-19 Task Force Kereng Masupu said in a statement.

    “The variant tests were carried out as part of the routine genomic surveillance of SARS-COV-2, as prescribed in our COVID-19 response plan,” said Masupu, adding that the preliminary report revealed that all of the four persons had been fully vaccinated for COVID-19.

    As part of the continuing investigations into the virus to establish and contain its local transmission, Masupu said contact tracing has revealed close contacts who are currently awaiting their results and the public will be informed regarding the outcome of the exercise.

    The initial investigations on the virus have established that the new variant has a high number of mutations, as compared to the locally predominant Delta variant, he said.

    “What this means is still unclear and under investigation,” said Masupu.

    Meanwhile, health authorities in Botswana have dispelled assertions associating the new variant with HIV positive status of the participants. Enditem

    Botswana confirms four cases of new COVID-19 variant

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      Custer Van Cleef

      So LEPER status will shift from the Unvaccinated to the Vaccinated — an interesting thought Peter.

      We’ll be able to come out from the shadows. 🙂 … and there’ll be no crowds…

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      Forrest Gardener

      The moral of the story is that it is the infected status which counts and not the injected status.

      What were the Australian authorities thinking when they pretended that injections would solve all problems? No need to quarantine if you’ve had your injections. Either insanity or evil.

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      yarpos

      Its a bit laughable that the rest of the world is bssing anything on data from African States. Almost anything could be happening, how and if its reported is something else.

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    Rowjay

    The Australian Energy Market Commission has released its forward price trends for consumers for the next three years, as summarised here. It shows that the State jurisdictions with the least reliance on renewables have the largest price drops, while the only jurisdiction boasting 100% renewables has a price increase!

    When are the new deal exponents finally going to admit that 100% renewables will cost more for the consumer at the point of use, and stop focusing on the seeming low cost at the project exit point.

    Where are the fact checkers?? Where is the balanced reporting??

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    another ian

    And then

    “Blue States Experience Massive Coronavirus Surge in Last Two Weeks”

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/11/26/blue-states-experience-massive-coronavirus-surge-in-last-two-weeks/

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    another ian

    “Woke Salvation Army Asks Donors to Offer ‘Sincere Apology’ for Whiteness: Christians Must ‘Evaluate Racist Attitudes’ ”

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/11/26/woke-salvation-army-asks-donors-to-offer-sincere-apology-for-whiteness-christians-must-evaluate-racist-attitudes/

    As the ditty had it –

    “May that timekeeper stand in his Aunt Sally band

    And blow till his eyeballs turn black

    May each note from his cornet turn into a hornet

    Ans sting him for five and a zac”

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    KP

    “One Argentinian researcher believes she knows the answer.

    Dr. Chinda Brandolino is a healthcare professional who specializes in lymphology, phlebology, and occupational medicine. As more patients became immunized, she grew increasingly disturbed. An alarming number suffered severe and debilitating complications.

    While observing these troubling afflictions, the physician began to study messenger ribonucleic acid and its effects on genetics. A diligent investigation led her to a specific case from 2013. In the Supreme Court ruling of Association of Molecular Pathology versus Myriad LLC, lawmakers declared human genomes altered by mRNA vaccines can be patented.”

    If the RNA gets translated into your DNA, then the vaccine company owns you.. and your children.. and their children.. and their childr

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    Harves

    Trump is such a racist for banning flights from Africa … oh wait 🤔

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    another ian

    NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO READ!!!

    “The Land Down Under: It Took So Little”

    “A good friend of mine pointed out an interesting fact: There have been less than 2,000 deaths from Covid in Austrlia but that’s all it took for them to build concentration camps.”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/11/27/the-land-down-under-it-took-so-little/

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      Peter C

      Yesterday I went to the Melbourne protest, which was a picnic type affair in the Treasury Gardens.
      The steps of Parliament House have been closed off to the public so we just moved 100m down Spring St.
      The protests look they will continue until the pandemic powers bill is defeated, whether that be a short or a long time.
      I took my Eureka flag and stood by the statue of Adam Lindsay Gordon at 2:30 but I did not get to meet anyone from this blog.
      Peter C reporting in

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        Peter C

        Wrong avatar, but it is me. I must have entered my email address incorrectly.

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        Kalm Keith

        November 27, 2021 at 8:55 pm · Reply

        Our meeting here in NovoCastria was the biggest group I’ve seen here so far.

        Couldn’t make an accurate count but would probably have been about 2,000 which isn’t much compared to Sydney and Melbourne but considering it rained the whole time from midday to three it wasn’t bad.

        Waterfront street was closed down for the march that went half a kilo down and then back for the speeches.

        A very positive atmosphere and lots of flags and placards on sticks.

        Half a dozen police for traffic control.

        There was a 10 o’clock rally but don’t have any feedback on that yet.

        Wet, wet, wet.

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    greggg

    ‘Yet another state premier — the dictatorial Daniel Andrews — has made vaccinations mandatory this week for accommodation workers, agriculture and forestry workers, airport workers, ancillary, support and welfare workers, authorised officers, care workers, community workers, creative arts workers, custodial workers, emergency service workers, entertainment and function workers, funeral workers, higher education workers, justice service centre workers, marriage celebrants, manufacturing workers, meat and seafood processing workers, media and film production workers, mining workers, physical recreation workers, ports and freight workers, professional sports, high-performance sports or racing professionals, professional services workers, public sector employees, real estate workers, religious workers, repair and maintenance workers, retail workers (including workers at food and drink facilities, and licensed premises), science and technology workers, social and community service workers, transport workers, utilities and urban workers, veterinary and pet/animal care workers. The reality is you are practically excluded from the workforce in Victoria if you are not vaccinated.’

    https://nationfirst.substack.com/p/what-is-stage-5

    When he gets home at night, he likes to change clothes and sit in front of the mirror.

    https://dailysceptic.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/nazidan-1637933932.7859.jpg

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    More junk from the Government of Oz:

    Adopt Net-Zero Goal or See Debt Costs Spiral, Australia Warns

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-25/australia-s-debt-costs-to-surge-without-effort-to-reach-net-zero

    Net zero might bankrupt Australia, but not climate change.

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    Raven

    China to take over Uganda’s Entebbe International Airport for default on debt repayment.

    China has rejected Uganda’s request to re-negotiate toxic clauses in the $200m loan picked six years ago for the Airport expansion.

    The Airport is the only International Airport in the country.

    https://twitter.com/TanzaniaUpdates/status/1464152041757069321

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    clarence.t

    You know that meme, “snow will be a thing of the past”

    https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2021/11/27/david-viners-thing-of-the-past-comes-back-to-haunt-him-again-2/

    If it weren’t so funny, you could almost have pity for the incompetence of the AGW scary-prediction mob….

    Do they “feeeel” any embarrassment, I wonder, or is being proven wrong, time after time, just part of being an AGW shill/activist ?

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      Forrest Gardener

      No. They do not feel any embarrassment. Nor do they ever admit they got it wrong. They’ve always got weasel words and a compliant media to hid behind while they come up with their next headline.

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    Ronin

    Just as demonstrations down south and elsewhere overseas take on massive proportions, up pops the Botswana version of Wuflu, who woulda guessed.

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    PeterS

    Could it be that most if not all of the COVID-19 vaccines are failing to stop the spread of the virus because they are stopping the immune system from generating an effective immune response to new variants of the virus, and will continue to do so unilt the vaccines and booster shots are totally useless, if not already? If so then the unvaccinated have the advantage of a stronger ability to fight the current and future variants while the vaccinated are in a weakened state and will be more susceptible to the new variants. It’s the nightmare scenario some of us have already talked about.

    The link below then talks about an old study from Japanese scientists, who tried to answer the question, under what circumstances do we see antibody dependent enhancement? That is, a situation in which the virus uses your overall vaccine induced antibody response to its own advantage, leaving you worse off than if you had never been vaccinated in the first place.

    It has very little to do with the virus and far more to do with the power grab by all governments around the world. Why all of them? Hint hint. It’s just one step towards a world tyrannical government. We can fight back but unfortunately too many are throwing in the towel and going along with their lies and tricks. The high vaccination rates are proof of that. People were too easily coerced into taking the shots from all the scaremongering, thanks the MSM, politicians, scientists and educators. Sounds familiar? Sure does; climate change.

    Now you can see why the vaccines were a mistake

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      PeterS

      Similar theme…skip the intro and go to 2.02

      Are Weak Vaxs Breeding Deadly Super Viruses?

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      OldOzzie

      Vaccinated people are now stuck with this mediocre immune response, that’s intended for a variant that no longer exists. This really looks like the scenario where you’re worse off being vaccinated than you are if you’re unvaccinated. And if this is somehow not yet the big one, the one that uses everyone’s highly identical immune response against the Wuhan version of the spike protein to its own advantage, then you can rest assured that when it grows dominant, it will be giving birth to descendants that will do the trick.

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      beowulf

      SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccination induces functionally diverse antibodies to NTD, RBD, and S2

      The title of this paper sounds like it’s good news for the vaxxed . . . it is anything but, and contains a few nasties. The main ill effects found were that SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccination induces a high rate of non-neutralizing antibodies, a high titre of binding antibodies, and also induces a back-boost to seasonal human coronaviruses. Quite possibly ADE on steroids.

      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867421007066

      From the summary:

      . . . Polyclonal antibody responses in vaccinees were robust and comparable to or exceeded those seen after natural infection. However, the ratio of binding to neutralizing antibodies after vaccination was greater than that after natural infection and, at the monoclonal level, we found that the majority of vaccine-induced antibodies did not have neutralizing activity. We also found a co-dominance of mAbs targeting the NTD and RBD of SARS-CoV-2 spike and an original antigenic-sin like backboost to spikes of seasonal human coronaviruses OC43 and HKU1.

      And commentary on the paper here:

      https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?blog=Market-Ticker-Nad

      This was published in July of this year. It should have been the end of mass-vaccination attempts against Covid because it made clear that binding (infection-enhancing) antibodies were produced by the jabs in abundance and what’s worse the majority of the antibodies produced were worthless or harmful. In short the only reason you got protection was due to a wildly elevated titer in the first place, and once it waned, which it inevitably would, you were going to get ****ed.

      On the back-boosting of other seasonal viruses:

      That’s even worse in that OC43 in particular is believed to have caused a Covid-19 like pandemic in the 1890s. Backboosting that virus, which circulates all the time in humans, is flat-out nuts because like Covid-19 the pandemic of the 1890s featured all manner of nasty death. Since OC43 circulates in the population on a roughly four-year cycle anything that enhances that virus is begging to whack people in size — but not from Covid-19, rather from another virus that usually is nothing other than a nuisance!

      Boosting will make this worse, possibly catastrophically worse, because the boosters will still produce binding antibodies. The higher the titer goes the more-dangerous that is as protection wanes. It is very likely that repeated boosting will not only lead to a “coffin corner” problem where protection becomes non-existent or even negative immediately, but worse, we already know that strains that fully evade the protective antibodies are in the wild. Those are very likely to wind up dominant sub-groups of Delta and when that occurs the binding antibodies still attach and thus if you’ve been vaxxed and that happens you’re screwed and there’s nothing you can do about it.

      It is increasingly clear that those who held out and stuck up the finger, especially if previously infected, made the right choice.

      See the full article.

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    another ian

    FWIW

    OMYCRON

    “Only Two Things Are Infinite….”

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=244342

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      another ian

      “Contemplate these facts:

      This “variant” has been found all over the world already. Therefore its already everywhere. Locking down travel after it is already in your nation is stupid and does nothing. The variant is either going to become dominant or it will not. You cannot alter that course once it gets to you — and no matter where you are it already has.

      The vaccines clearly do not work. International travel has been vaccinated-only everywhere for quite some time. So the person(s) who brought the virus into your nation with this “variant” were vaccinated. ”

      More there

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        PeterS

        The articles you and I just posted indicate the vaccinated are more susceptible to variants of the COVID-19 virus than the unvaccinated. How is that for a failed experiment? In normal circumstances such a failure in any field warrants an immediate reappraisal of the situation after withdrawing the alleged remedy. Given that’s not going to happen with the COVID-19 vaccines, and instead it’s full steam ahead and in some cases forcing vaccinations of the whole population, then it becomes self evident there is something very sinister with how all this is being played. One has to be a fool not to see it.

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        farmerbraun

        I like this bit :-

        “Only infection has ever conferred critical and fatal outcome protection with coronaviruses through history. There are no exceptions. Not only have all previous attempts ended in failure several have resulted in vaccine-enhanced disease ripping through the vaccinated test subjects on re-challenge with several of those trials ending in the death of all or nearly all test subjects — which were fortunately animals and not humans. This time around we have performed a mass experiment with zero evidence over a period of years to demonstrate that what has happened 100% of the time in the past will not happen again.

        It appears we’re losing that bet — a loss that, on the basis of history, we had every reason to believe would happen and yet instead of every single firm manufacturing this crap being an instant zero several are being rewarded. What the hell sort of rampant, outrageous stupidity is that?

        While the data is not yet in there is reason to believe, given the mutations described in this newest “variant”, that the vaccinated may be ****ed as the mutations may confer full evasion and yet the binding antibodies you get from being jabbed are still there. If that pans out here comes the exact same thing that has repeatedly happened with coronavirus vaccine attempts except this time we were dumb enough to mass-vaccinate humans rather than a handful of cats.”

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      PeterS

      Yes the nightmare scenario is a real possibility. Of course we all hope it doesn’t happen but some of us at least know it’s not just a remote possibility for several reasons but a very likely prospect. No one can prove or disprove it so only time will tell.

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        Serp

        Yeah, and discussing these frightful scenarios is microagressive if not downright white and needs curtailing.

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    another ian

    Duelling dietary information

    “Oxford Academic- Behavioral Characteristics and Self-reported Health Status Among 2029 Adults Consuming a “Carnivore Diet” ”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/11/27/wheres-the-beef/

    And

    “In a sense, I can’t believe I’m writing this article. From a scientific perspective, this issue has been firmly settled. The answer is very clearly “NO!”. And yet, if I google “is saturated fat unhealthy?”, then seven of the top nine results proclaim with great certainty that “yes, it is”.”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/11/27/the-sound-of-settled-science-124/

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    el+gordo

    ‘Albatrosses pushed to ‘divorce’ because of climate change, study finds’

    ‘And, yes, there is a documented rate of divorce for the normally monogamous birds.’ (SMH)

    Apparently there has also been a divorce spike in humans because of lockdowns.

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      MrGrimNasty

      And according to Attenborough the chicks are being blown off nests to die by increased windiness from climate change.

      And according to another documentary they are all going lesbian, only problem is they keep chucking each others’ eggs out the nest (they never did explain how they lay viable eggs).

      Absolutely everything is twisted into promoting correct think these days.

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    Custer Van Cleef

    After musing on my response to RickWill, there’s a reason ONS data shows an advantage to the Vaccines in weeks 29-38 of 2021 (before the data cuts off at week 38).

    My hypothesis:
    Vaccinated people were culled from the herd earlier in the year, by effects of the vaccine. Some would have died later in the year (or perhaps next year) but since they’re not around to do that, the Vaccinated group looks to have the advantage over the Never-jabbed, in weeks 29-38.

    I could produce the same effect if I went around a random sample of people, removing (not culling of course) any persons with a precarious health appearance. Later in the year, my “adjusted” group would have a lower, weekly mortality rate compared to an untouched Control Group.

    I don’t know what to make of Table 4, in the dataset, “all-cause mortality”, broken down into age-groups. Something seems odd. Some flat lines I didn’t expect to see… I’m going to check my results.

    NB. Don’t get confused between “age standardized” and “age-specific”. The spreadsheet uses both terms and they are different.

    I’m still not sure how to explain the lower ASMR rate of the Vaccinated in the early weeks. Was it affected by having a younger demographic that was healthier?
    In a lot of countries, it wasn’t just oldies getting priority for the jab — health workers and first responders were first in line too — and England’s NHS is huge.
    So putting the mortality rate of people who are likely to be FITTER (first responders) and HEALTHIER (doctors and nurses) into your ASMR calculation, would skew your result, and it could make a big difference. As the weeks progress a wider variety of people get vaccinated, the ASMR goes up — and that’s what we see, a steady rise from 9.6 at week 1 to a peak of 49.6 deaths per 100K, in week 18.

    I feel like I’ve gone down a rabbit hole. 🙂

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    Strop

    What Happened: Dr Jay Bhattacharya On 19 Months of Covid

    https://youtu.be/zG7XZ2JXZqY
    1 hr 3min

    What we got right, what we got wrong, and what we got really wrong.

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      Brenda Spence

      Lots of great points made in this video. My only issue is that he still supports the injections and says they work! …even if its only to reduce symptoms.

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    Brenda Spence

    We knew this didnt we?

    COVID-19 Mortality Risk Correlates Inversely with Vitamin D3 Status, and a Mortality Rate Close to Zero Could Theoretically Be Achieved at 50 ng/mL 25(OH)D3: Results of a Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33260798/

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      Forrest Gardener

      We know a few things.

      Anecdotal evidence indicated early on that there were numerous promising treatments and Utter Pradesh was one HUGE anecdote.

      With notable exceptions governments around the world went with an injection only strategy.

      Research into actual treatments has been ignored if not actively suppressed.

      The combination of the above has been a godsend to those with totalitarian tendencies.

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      David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

      G’day Brenda,
      Yes, we did know about this. Jo posted about it early last year.

      Even I knew enough by July 2020 to start taking a 4000 IU per day supplement (thinking I might be testing the maximum limit), and by February 2021 was targeting 50 ng/ ml with 10,000 per day, confident I was not.

      Your link has two dates, the NIH entry dated Nov 27, 2020, and the paper itself dated Nov 20, also 2020. Somehow the “experts” in our bureaucratic Health Departments, CDD and GP organisations couldn’t find it, to the extent that my GP told me last September there was no benefit to had from vitamin D for COVID.
      I told him I was on the 10,000 and asked for a blood test, which he did authorise. As at Sept 30, 2021 I was at 71.6 ng/ml and continuing the 10,000 IU per day. I think that that intake will be sufficient to maintain my blood level at around 72 ng/ml, but am prepared to increase it if I suspect I could become, or have been, exposed.

      Cheers
      Dave B

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    another ian

    “The Lancet- Effectiveness of Covid-19 Vaccination Against Risk of Symptomatic Infection, Hospitalization, and Death Up to 9 Months: A Swedish Total-Population Cohort Study

    Vaccine effectiveness of BNT162b2 against infection waned progressively from 92% at day 15-30 to 47% and from day 211 and onwards no effectiveness could be detected. ”

    And more plus link at

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/11/27/reading-the-fine-print/

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    Forrest Gardener

    I for one look forward to the scientific evidence about whether this is a natural mutation in the wild or simply a new release from a laboratory.

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    beowulf

    Here’s an eye-watering little snippet for you about the downward spiral in the USD:

    “… the currency circulation increasing by $226.3 Billion. In layman’s terms, almost 20% of all US dollars were created in 2020 alone.”

    That’s according to Robert Kiyosaki, the author of Rich Dad Poor Dad.
    Prepare yourselves. If you survive the virus and the “cure”, the depression around the corner might get you.

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      farmerbraun

      ” the depression around the corner might get you.”

      I would submit that the drastic reduction of your energy footprint, by way of “pandemic” and “climate change ” strictures , is specifically designed for exactly that purpose – to prepare you for a lengthy depression .

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        farmerbraun

        How does an Australian population around 15 million , circa 2025, and a 70% drop in GDP grab you?
        “Conspiracy theory” , courtesy of Deagle Population Forecasting service.

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    Rod

    ..and as said before, 2022 is going to be far worse than 2021 so don’t buy that new car, save your money and buy a big freezer.
    Omicron fear will have the power drunk pollies rubbing their hands together.
    Of course masks will be back so just a reminder courtesy of the CDC’s accidental slip as to their real worth:

    https://64.media.tumblr.com/ce096015717b7b2c429d2984c4ec9d28/f33af05866366773-57/s1280x1920/8a24485b2ef8363f55068ea76a6b7a27d11f5c32.jpg

    So here we are 2 years on. “It’s just 2 weeks to stop the spread…”
    Shot, 2nd shot, booster shots, vax passports, medical apartheid,fear, discrimination, protests, riots, economic carnage and for what? All for nothing, that’s what.
    It looks like Omicron will show the unvaxxed had it right all along. Your immune system could take on Covid easily.
    4 million years of evolution is more effective than a vaxx developed in 48 hours but I guess intelligence wasn’t high on the evolutionary priority scale given what we’ve seen.

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      farmerbraun

      ” intelligence wasn’t high on the evolutionary priority scale”
      I don’t think it is that particularly.
      If you look at the developments that have taken place in society , over many decades, it is easy to see how the current situation has been brought about.
      The rise of a political class, who have managed for the accumulation of power and wealth completely self-serving , and entrenched.
      Then the corruption of academia by the funding of only those pursuits that fit the politician’s agenda .
      The dismantling of education , to bring about functional illiteracy in science and critical analysis , has followed .
      The enlistment of third parties , un- elected officials , sport-spersons, churches,, media , and levy bodies , to the cause.
      The promotion of Health and Safety as an over-riding umbrella , to restrict freedoms that previously existed.
      Then the introduction of The Big Lie – Climate Change at first , then Global Pandemic.
      Finally technology employed as a fascist tool to enforce home detention, tracking , contact tracing , compliance etc.

      These seven developments , taken as a whole , have brought us here. It’s a well thought out plan , a long time in the making.

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    John Connor II

    It was planned

    SHOCK VIDEO: from 2017 Dr. Fauci & some NIH scientists discuss needing a “disruptive event” like a flu like virus out of China in order to justify bypassing decades of approval for a new vaccine technology they want approved.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1445970771059388417

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    beowulf

    The fight-back against the ABC’s vendetta towards the SAS for alleged “war crimes” in Afghanistan based on hearsay evidence of an apparently overheard radio conversation.

    The commander of the SAS force in question sets the record straight.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7vtWKasUE8

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    Custer Van Cleef

    Narrative imploding — look at Table 10, UKHSA Vaccine Surveillance Report week 47, on p31

    80.3% of COVID-related deaths are in the Vaccinated population.

    Have a laugh at all the warnings not to trust the data. They didn’t use to have warnings — wonder what changed?

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      OldOzzie

      Page 31 – 1.

      In the context of very high vaccine coverage in the population, even with a highly effective vaccine, it is expected that a large
      proportion of cases, hospitalisations and deaths would occur in vaccinated individuals, simply because a larger proportion of the
      population are vaccinated than unvaccinated and no vaccine is 100% effective. This is especially true because vaccination has
      been prioritised in individuals who are more susceptible or more at risk of severe disease.
      Individuals in risk groups may also be
      more at risk of hospitalisation or death due to non-COVID-19 causes, and thus may be hospitalised or die with COVID-19 rather
      than because of COVID-19

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        red edwards

        But these statistics don’t include the decay curve of protection by these vaccines, nor is this noted in the footnotes.

        In other words, the vaccine was initially given to the highest risk groups (over 65) first and the youngest group only recently. It has had time to wear off in the early groups, but not the most recent group.

        No effort was made to track those deaths by monthly grouping of vaccine receipt date (i.e. 6 months ago, 5 months ago, ect.). that would be a more practical time dataset for looking at the mortality post vaccine, rather than lumping all “more than 21 days” together.

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    Liberator

    In the cinema yesterday watching Mr Bond. Arrived in time to see the commercials, which you are forced to endure, can skip, can’t fast forward, can’t mute. The only disadvantage of the movies, hard to avoid uless you arrive a little late. Up came an add for Volvo, with a focus on safety. “Volvo Ultimate Safety Test, For everyone’s Safety” I was sitting there watching it wondering where they where going with it.

    At the end the guy is standing talking to the camera and you hear a large sound, the guy turns his head, camera pans to what I think is a glacier, doing what glaciers do, calving off great chunk of ice, the screen shows the calving and then pans back to the guy who looks horrified! The screen shows “Climate change is the ultimate safety test. That’s why we are changing to all electric, starting today”

    Went to find the add on YT to double check what I saw, one of the comments:

    It’s not “today” at all, Volvo is full of shit. They’re just appealing to leftwing, climate change dumb asses with this advertising.

    Volvo still produces large on-highway Diesel trucks, and marine engines, which are also internal combustion, and will continue to do so.

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      Ronin

      Yes, that ad has been running on FTA tv for months now, the wokesters will run out and buy a Polestar which is made in China.

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      What do you expect ?
      ..its called “Advertising”. designed to influence weak minds and vunerable individuals.
      …try using noise cancelling ear buds and a phone for killing time until the movie starts .
      …or just stay in the bar a little longer !

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    farmerbraun

    Thanks . You can delete these last two.

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    RossP

    How many times in this plandemic has a supposed conspiracy theory (according to the MSM and those fact checkers) turned out to be reality a few months later? I have lost count.

    Here is another possible case. Graphene.

    https://graphene-flagship.eu/graphene/news/graphene-flagship-spin-off-inbrain-signs-collaboration-with-merck-to-develop-next-generation-bioelectronics/

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    Wirebird

    FIFO mining camp cabins (that look the same as in Howard Springs) can be built really fast. A team of only 5 can build that accommodation for 32 people in less than 2 months. We’ve known for at least 18 months that covid is mainly airborne spread and that air-gapped cabins are way best for quarantine. After all this time, why haven’t federal and state governments managed to get them built?

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    Destroyer D69

    How many of the regions in South Africa that are at the “Epicentre ” of the discovery of Omicron also happen to be the same, or bordering ,regions as those found to have denied the use of Ivermectin? Are there any of the previously documented very low Covid rate zones ,because of their use of Ivermectin for parasite control part of this “Disastrous” outbreak.?Would like to see maps of these areas superimposed to highlight any such correlation.

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    Brenda Spence

    Great interview with Dr Robert Malone! World’s greatest expt ever performed on humans.

    In an exclusive and explosive one-hour interview with Veronika Kyrylenko of The New American, pioneering mRNA scientist Dr. Robert Malone explains the intensely corrupt workings of the government regulatory bodies that have mismanaged the pandemic, discusses the problems with the vaccine program and delves into potentially explosive and game-changing revelations about the shady origins of the Covid-19 pandemic in Wuhan, China.

    https://thenewamerican.com/dr-robert-malone-this-is-the-largest-experiment-performed-on-human-beings-in-the-history-of-the-world/

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      Brenda Spence

      Best I have seen for a long time. Even goes into the bigger agenda, fantastic insights. Its great to know someone of hiscalibre is awake.

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        Vicki+Sanderson

        Thanks for reference, Brenda. I follow his twitter site every day – but missed this.

        It’s a mystery to me why very few people – MSM, medicos, pulls, seem interested – or ovenware – of global experts like Malone and other the virologists, immunologists and epidemiologist who daily publish desperate pleas for the vaccination process to stop.

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          Vicki+Sanderson

          PS Actually, I have seen this photo on his site every days for yonks – & thought it was his wife! Didn’t realise it was discussion with Kyrylenko!

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    Hanrahan

    A funny thing happened on the way to the forum.

    I got my first jab a month ago and have been “sensitive” to anything that isn’t normal ever since but it has been OK. But the cuff on my BP tester started leaking so I bought a new one on line. It uses AAAs so I had to buy some and charge them so it was y’day morning I tried it out after more than a week. It had trouble and went into “error” a bit but i got a reading of 217/126. The readings I had been getting on my old machine had been excellent, this was crazy. I went to the chemist and they came up with 180/140. I have NEVER had readings like that.

    After tea I checked again, and again well over 200 and I was starting to believe the machine so I rang the ambulance? Did I over-react? I don’t know how dangerous such readings are. The paras in the ambulance are great and they confirmed the high readings and did an ECG on the way.

    I spent a few hours in emergency under observation, including another ECG, and got home at 1 am. Readings were still high then and back over 200 again this morning. Only now is it back to “high”.

    Of interest, and why I’m telling the story, is that there was no overt acknowledgement of the pandemic. No one asked my vaxx status and neither I nor the staff wore masks. Of course the once I mentioned that these wild readings may be a result of a jab reaction it was allowed through to the keeper and I never raised that possibility again.

    I can’t fault anyone’s professionalism.

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      yarpos

      Over react? 200 is a red line that would see most doctors want to admit you to see whats happening.

      To be fair to the medical folks involved the pandemic and vax status is just noise in terms of dealing with the here and now as they do.

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      Kalm Keith

      That sounds very unusual, keep us informed of progress.

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      KP

      Pfizer will have medication to fix that…

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    Vicki+Sanderson

    Of interest, and why I’m telling the story, is that there was no overt acknowledgement of the pandemic. No one asked my vaxx status and neither I nor the staff wore masks

    I understand that no one asked about vax status of granddaughter with unexplained upper gastro tract bleeding, even after endoscopy proved nothing. Only one interested was a natural health practitioner her mother consults. First question he asked.

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    Press release:

    Vaccine for next Friday’s new COVID-19 variant already in production!

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    Analitik

    The current indications are that the Omicron variant Is highly transmissible but not very dangerous. According to the South Africans, the symptoms are unusually mild for the infected with most people just feeling very tired for a few days.

    “Their symptoms were so different and so mild from those I had treated before,” said Dr Coetzee, a GP for 33 years who chairs the South African Medical Association alongside running her practice.

    The high number of mutations, especially around the receptor binding domain, almost assures immune escape from the spike protein vaccines which would be a huge bonus. Then the harmful mandates for vaccination to retain your rights would be shown to be pointless, even if their inherent dangers remain unacknowledged. People could make their own choice at the very least.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/south-african-doctor-raised-alarm-omicron-variant-says-symptoms/

    Instead of closing borders to the countries where this variant is widespread, our policy should be
    Omicron? Bring it on!

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    another ian

    “Move over Jesus”

    “With this in mind, may we propose the following name for this religion: Wokeinanity

    Where Christianity has Jesus as the Son of God, Wokeinanity has George Floyd. Here’s a new prayer you may hear them reciting in public soon:

    Our Floyd, who art in heaven,
    Hallowed be Thy name.
    Thy Kangdom come,
    Thy will be done on earth,
    as it is in heaven.
    Give us this day our daily Fentanyl.
    And forgive us our knee presses
    as we forgive those who press knees against us,
    And lead us not into temptation,
    but deliver us from evil police.
    For Thine is the kangdom, the power,
    and the glory, for ever, and ever.
    Amen and Awomen.”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/11/28/move-over-jesus/

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    CHRIS

    Well well well… another COVID variant. Who would have guessed??? This latest one (Omicron) has at least 32 mutations related to the spike protein from the Alpha variant. What next?? Any more letters in the Greek alphabet?? What a joke. Time to just get on with life, and strip the power from the Health Department a$$e$.

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      Analitik

      It should be recognized as a good thing. More infective, less dangerous, displacing Delta.

      What’s not to like ? (unless you’re a controlling authoritarian or a vaccine manufacturer)

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      Analitik

      The mounting evidence of the lack of a disaster as it spreads and displaces Delta should hopefully be the downfall of the narrative

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    Lance

    White Smoke Emanates From Wuhan Lab Chimney Signaling A New Variant Has Been Named

    WUHAN—Thousands gathered outside the Wuhan Institute of Virology with faces of anxious anticipation over the weekend, as rumors had been circulating that a new COVID-19 variant would soon be named. The hopeful pilgrims’ hours of waiting were not in vain. Cheers erupted as white smoke began pouring out of the chimney early Sunday morning, signaling the creation and naming of a new COVID-19 variant.

    https://babylonbee.com/news/white-smoke-emanates-from-wuhan-lab-chimney-signaling-a-new-variant-has-been-named

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    Analitik

    More on the ground comments about Omicron being “Extremely Mild”. The Doctor who first discovered strain says that there
    are numerous mutations which “Destabilize” the virus.

    The current media focus and government actions continue to show total lack of attention to clinical experience, just as they have done with early treatment programs. The signs of the corruption of these institutions is increasingly obvious.

    Omicron? Bring it on!

    Barry Schoub, chairman of the Ministerial Advisory Committee on Vaccines, told Sky News on Sunday that while South Africa, which first identified the new variant, currently has 3,220 people with the coronavirus infection overall and while the variant does appear to be spreading rapidly, there’s been no real uptick in hospitalizations
    ..
    Schoub said that the large number of mutations found in the omicron variant appears to destabilize the virus

    Unfortunately, he then goes on to reenter the mainstream narrative by hoping that the mutations also allows Delta to remain dominant since he thinks the vaccines control that.

    Fortunately, in a BBC interview, Angelique Coetzee, chair of the South African Medical Association, brought proper context of the Omicron variant back by discussing all current clinical findings being non life threatening

    “What we are seeing clinically in South Africa and remember, I’m at the epicenter, that’s where I’m practicing, is extremely mild,” she said Sunday on the BBC’s “Andrew Marr Show.”
    ..
    Even more remarkably, she said that “we haven’t admitted anyone” to the hospital with the new variant,” she said. “I spoke to other colleagues of mine, the same picture.”

    Asked if authorities around the world were panicking unnecessarily, Coetzee said “yes, at this stage I would say definitely. Two weeks from now on maybe we will say something different.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/omicron-extremely-mild-says-doctor-who-first-discovered-strain-numerous-mutations

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      Analitik

      And just to illustrate the laser like focus of the health organizations on the narrative that there is no solution but vaccination. Forever.

      Frank Ulrich Montgomery, chairman of the global physicians’ society of the World Medical Association (WMA), told German reporters that he believes Omicron could become as dangerous as the Ebola virus.

      Montgomery said, “the fastest and best thing to do is contact restrictions. We must avoid any form of crowd in the coming weeks. We should therefore close the Christmas markets nationwide.”
      ..
      Montgomery said it may be necessary to keep “vaccinating the world for years” to come, adding that “only vaccination helps.”

      The dumbest part is his justification for all this continuing panic

      “We don’t yet know anything about its dangerousness – but it seems to be spreading rapidly. My great concern is that it could lead to a variant that is as infectious as Delta and as dangerous as Ebola.”

      Yep, just ignore all the official statements by those who have actually been dealing with the outbreak and jump to speculative conclusions that best suit the narrative.

      The corruption will only become clearer to the public with this sort of scare mongering

      https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/world-medical-association-chair-demands-national-lockdowns-compulsory-jabs-fears-covid

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        Vicki

        This bloke’s outburst is so absurd that it can only reinforce the growing evidence that there are very focussed international forces intent of transforming the way the world is governed and controlled.

        Can’t believe I have reached this position, but there seems no other rational explanation. Even mass fear psychosis doesn’t explain the absurdity of these sort of announcements..

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    FWIW

    “Connecting Two Disparate Dots”

    “Then a very different topic ran across my mind and I said, “I’m now going to explain the #1 reason I’m skeptical of the Covid jabs but will come at it from a completely different angle. See if you can connect the dots before I explain.” Shortly afterwards, this video appeared on my YouTube feed and Carl Benjamin parallels what I said very closely:’

    More at

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/11/28/connecting-two-disparate-dots/

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Jordan Schachtel- There is no such thing as a public health expert”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/11/28/the-covid-kardashians/

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    another ian

    “On International Travel: DON’T DO IT”

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=244352

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    another ian

    From a comment at Chiefio

    “Omicron an anagram of moronic. Here’s Lubos Motl’s take on the South African Covid 19 variant…

    https://motls.blogspot.com/2021/11/farcical-pseudoscience-of-new-south.html

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      Analitik

      His page layout makes it almost unreadable but it’s good to see others come to the same obvious conclusions as mine

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    Analitik

    Scott Atlas’s new book, A Plague Upon Our House, details how the (worldwide) establishment manipulated the CoViD narrative to undermine the Trump Presidency

    Yes, the president initially had gone along with the lockdowns proposed by Fauci and Birx, the “fifteen days to slow the spread,” even though he had serious misgivings. But I still believe the reason that he kept repeating his one question—“Do you agree with the initial shutdown?”—whenever he asked questions about the pandemic was precisely because he still had misgivings about it.

    From the stupidity of high cycle PCR tests to wildly inaccurate modelling through to outright obstruction, Atlas shows how the media and bureaucracy prevented Trump from following his instincts in dealing with the “pandemic”.

    The only issue found by the reviewer is that Atlas still supports Operation Warp Speed and the vaccines and does not recognise that this was yet another area where the establishment manipulated the narrative and Trump.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/president-betrayed-bureaucrats-scott-atlas-exposes-real-covid-disaster

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    Rod

    Apparently the symptom of the Omicron variant is excessive yawning as we’re all so damn sick of the media & government lies and propaganda..

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    another ian

    Re the Rittenhouse trial, from comments at Chiefio

    “But it seems the case was officially dismissed with prejudice (can’t be re-tried) on all charges.

    I guess that doesn’t suit the MSM narrative.”

    “The jury gives the verdict, the Judge then passes sentence or issues judgement. What this says to me is the Judge was peeved at the prosecutorial misconduct and malicious persecution… So put some icing on the verdict with a granting of the “prejudice” motion to dampen some of that prosecutorial urge to misconduct and persecution…”

    Anyone heard anything of this in the YSM?

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      beowulf

      Haven’t heard anything on that score, but the families of the rioters shot are being urged to file civil suits, and with the standard of evidence being lower in a civil suit, they are said to be likely to succeed.

      Rittenhouse is also being urged and aided to sue leading media figures and organisations who defamed him, a la Nick Sandmann.

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    FWIW

    “A discussion you won’t see on the CBC

    Grab a coffee and take the time to listen to this group of experts engaging in the kind of open discussion that we desperately need to have today. Geert Vanden Bossche is one of the participants. The most common observation is that today’s mass vaccination program is completely ignoring the role that innate immunity needs to play in the fight against Covid.

    “…it worries me that these leaky, incomplete, sub-optimal vaccines are immunotherapy of an unknown kind of consequence…”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/11/28/a-discussion-you-wont-see-on-the-cbc/

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    el+gordo

    Change of tune.

    ‘Australia’s top doctor has revealed it would be his ‘Christmas present’ for a more contagious but less severe Covid-19 variant to spread through Australia because it would boost people’s immunity without causing mass hospitalisations and deaths.

    ‘Early indications suggest the new Omicron variant may spread faster but is not as severe as the currently dominant Delta variant, with patients in South Africa only suffering mild illness.’

    (UK Mail)

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      Analitik

      The ABC allowed that statement on tonight’s news but surrounded it with statements of doom and gloom and the almost certain danger of vaccine escape.

      People HAVE to see how stupid this is, soon. I did a little query today with a couple of work colleagues and they had also heard how the South Africans had found the infection to be universally mild

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        Graeme No.3

        Curiously I was in the company of ABC believers (all fully vaccinated) yesterday yet their reaction was it was a beat-up. I think the Health “Authorities” may need to be less hysterical in future.

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      Add this to the new thread. Yes. It was encouraging to see this said and even reported.

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    R.B.

    Pep Guardiola lavished praise on Manchester City’s ground staff after heavy viner fell at the Etihad Stadium.

    City’s victory over West Ham was played in driving viner, with referee Michael Oliver allowing extra time at the break to clear the pitch.

    Our children loved it.

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    Rod

    Right again…Omicron causes myocarditis.

    https://t.me/greatreject/24216

    Gotta cover up the side effects of the vaxxes so blame it on the new variant.

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    another ian

    I just heard from an attendee that there was an anti-mandate protest of thousands on the Sunshine Coast last Saturday.

    But you haven’t heard of it because no press in attendance

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    another ian

    From a comment at Chiefio

    “I was alerted to the m.s.m. article below, by a senior denizen of a completely different Web site. It’s not biiig deeeal because of any revelations that I noticed, but because Newsweek, a long-established member of the print-m.s.m., dared to publish it at all.

    I’ve now elided the article’s text here & there, especially in the bulleted section, to make this comment merely a teaser, not an overt copyright violation for our gracious host. Readers should want to read the entire article; some readers might welcome its numerous nonmundane links, for nailing down the whirlwind history of response to the Wuhan-Hubei-Red-China virus [×].

    How Fauci Fooled America [·] Opinion
    Martin Kulldorff and Jay Bhattacharya [⚕]
    Newsweek On 11/1/21 at 9:30 AM EDT [*] ”

    More at

    https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/11/26/w-o-o-d-24-november-2021/#comment-152763

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    another ian

    Awkward!

    “NIH Director Cannot Explain Why Florida Has Lowest COVID Infection Rate in Nation, Apparently The Result Defies The Acceptable Science
    November 28, 2021 | Sundance | 143 Comments”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/11/28/nih-director-cannot-explain-why-florida-has-lowest-covid-infection-rate-in-nation-apparently-the-result-defies-the-acceptable-science/#comments

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