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Wednesday

The internet broke for the last couple of hours as Cloudflare crashed, taking X, ChatGPT, Spotify, Facebook, Telegram, this site, and even (the irony) DownDetector. Lots of people on X are asking why the internet is so big, yet so hopelessly concentrated.  (e.g. AWS, Cloudflare, Google Cloud). This augurs well for Digital ID…
Below, an explanation from a guy that might work at Cloudflare:
I won’t mince words: earlier today we failed our customers and the broader Internet when a problem in @Cloudflare network impacted large amounts of traffic that rely on us. The sites, businesses, and organizations that rely on Cloudflare depend on us being available and I apologize for the impact that we caused. Transparency about what happened matters, and we plan to share a breakdown with more details in a few hours. In short, a latent bug in a service underpinning our bot mitigation capability started to crash after a routine configuration change we made. That cascaded into a broad degradation to our network and other services. This was not an attack. That issue, impact it caused, and time to resolution is unacceptable. Work is already underway to make sure it does not happen again, but I know it caused real pain today. The trust our customers place in us is what we value the most and we are going to do what it takes to earn that back.

@chaeynz_ tweeted: “in retrospect of the cloudflare outage, let us celebrate this meme once more

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    Beta Blocker

    The sun still came up this morning. And new piles of leaves have appeared on the ground, having fallen during the night from the seven trees which surround our abode out here in the Middle of Nowhere, southeastern Washington State. Just another day living the dream.

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    When was this? I didn’t notice anything.

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      For 2 or 3 hours ending at about 2am Sydney time.

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        John F. Hultquist

        Thanks for the time. I’m 19 hours following Sydney, so missed the entire episode.

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        Eng_Ian

        Thankfully it only affected those using the internet.

        People could apparently still read a book, look out of a window and of course, the sun still rose and the birds still sang.

        I wonder if the over 16 ban would operate if one or more central control features locked up? Anyone know where the central repository is going to be? Surely not in Oz, we don’t have the IT capability to host something so secure.

        Is the government about to send all our secure personal information to somewhere over the horizon? Again? When the computer says no, you’ll need to contact a call centre is some other land, at some other set of business hours and use their language of choice. How could this all go wrong? Let me guess, this hasn’t even been considered by the gov, why would they?

        It’s for your own good.

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      TdeF

      I did. Everywhere, sites down. Including this one.

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    Honk R Smith

    I only had the problem when I tried to go to this site.
    I was nervous.
    Since the people that have no integrity have proclaimed their intent to protect internet integrity.
    And I was unable to restrain my opinion that they should F off.
    I will try not to suggest they go F themselves for at least the remainder of the week.

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      farmerbraun

      Russia Today (rt) was not affected.
      Neither was Zero Hedge.

      PayPal was down also.

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      OldOzzie

      Was also on Powerline Blog – Response Image showed Cloudfare as Problem

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        OldOzzie

        Just got told by My Elder Daughter in Melbourne whose Husband was trying to get back from Sydney last light and was offloaded off plane and took room at IBIS Airport

        She was keeping me up to date with Running SMS

        She said this morning “Cloud Fare Issue Melbourne Airport” and Husband on 0645 Flight

        Funnily enough, said 2nd Son was playing online with Friends, and Friend had mentioned his mum was taking lots of calls and looking stressed – she is COO Air Traffic Australia

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      RickWill

      One of the things I have noticed is that their BBC and their ABC (Australia) do not allow comments on their Youtube channels. I doubt they can stand the truth.

      On the other hand Sky News (UK and Oz) and GBNews have comments enabled. And the vast majority of comments have a common stance against immigration, the UN, Net Zero and Climate Change.

      The tide has tuned. People are starting to see for themselves rather than viewing the world through the eyes of the radical left and their government funded organs.

      By all accounts, Donald Trump is a nice human. He is truly God’s gift to mankind in this period of UN inspired globalism. He does have a brutal edge when dealing with the worst of criminals.

      This footage of him at the 1995 Veterans’ parade in NY came to my attention yesterday:
      https://www.news.com.au/world/resurfaced-footage-shows-trump-marching-in-1995-veterans-day-parade-he-helped-save/video/30d17fd9b1c9720c4bf86624711d9dd0

      Trump donated $200k toward the march to kick start private donations that totalled another $300K to ensure the march was held.

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        Gerry, england

        The Guardian in their ‘Komment Macht Frei’ section is very quick to ban those who do not follow their Far Left doctrine although I do wonder why anyone who is not on message would read their drivel other than to see what the opposition is doing. As to trying to educate a Guardian reader, well good luck with that.

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    David Maddison

    Victoriastan now has a new Liberal Party “leader”.

    I don’t think a new far Left, fully “woke” leader is going to help the Party get elected. In fact it’s going to massively hinder its chances.

    And why get rid of the previous leader Battin now? He was actually ahead in the polls. It’s as though the Liberal Party has a wish for self-destruction and a desire to never be elected.

    Victoria and Australia need conservative policies, not Leftist ones from the fake conservative Liberal Party.

    Until that is realised, the Liberals will be spending a very long time in Opposition indeed.

    Currently there is little or nothing differentiating Liberal from Green/Labor.

    Most of my friends are now former Liberal voters and will be now voting One Nation, an actual conservative party, when candidates run in their seats.

    The Liberal Party is unelectable and the thought of another eight or twelve years of Labor is unthinkable.

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      David Maddison

      Incidentally, the Victoriastan Liberals are still fully committed to Net Zero even though the Federal Liberals now pretend not to be.

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        TdeF

        Pretend. Agreed.

        However the massive change which would follow by repealing ALL the Climate laws would change Australia. Voters have no idea how much they are paying every day for Climate. And that’s the whole idea.

        After decades of telling the people electricity will be cheaper with windmills and solar panels, it’s obviously a lie. Now the legislators at every level, council, state, Federal have buried the costs of controlling climate in everything we do. Except the price of petrol, because that’s political dynamite.

        And the cost of utterly uncontrolled mass migration. Which is also supposed to make us richer. The only benefit I have seen is that the price of cigarettes has dropped from $80 to $20. The recent doubling of taxation has produced a halving in revenue. And now $8Billion a year is flowing to criminal organizations while government revenue has plummeted. If someone intended to wreck the joint by funding criminal activity, they couldn’t do a better job. Although I have one very left friend who considers that smoking has dropped by a factor of four as a consequence of punitive taxation. Sure and prohibition worked too.

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          Mike Borgelt

          “And now $8Billion a year is flowing to criminal organizations while government revenue has plummeted”

          The money has merely been redirected from one criminal organisation to others.

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            David Maddison

            Yes. From disorganised crime (government) to organised crime (private sector).

            At least they are providing the service of cheaper tobacco to nicotine addicts and preventing such people being driven to poverty via the heavily taxed cigarettes through the normal channels.

            Certainly smoking is not a good thing but government shouldn’t be taking advantage of their adduction as they are. And they even banned nicotine vaping, thus excluding smokers from another safer method of nicotine delivery, although banned as it waa too difficult to tax.

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              David Maddison

              If everyone stopped smoking due to high government taxes the government would either lower taxes or legalise some other addictive substance to tax.

              The Government is no different to any othee private sector criminal drug pusher in terms of being responsive to market forces and optimising revenue via the price elasticity of demand curve.

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        Graham Richards

        Hence the sudden changes to NSW & Victorian leadership changes. The climate nutters are panicking!!

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          Graeme4

          It’s interesting that very few folks know the name of the NSW Liberal leader or would recognise his face.

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      Broadie

      The new opposition leader ticks all the swamp boxes.

      Liberal Party Blue Blood Y – her first loyalty will and always will be to the ‘Paaaartay’
      Solicitor Y – married to a Barrister
      Staffer Y
      Young Y
      London School of Economics Graduate Y

      There is no alarm bell she does not ring or spidey sense she doesn’t tingle.

      You may as well have created a Frankenstein type figure by genetically combining Anastasia Palaschuk, John Howard, Scott Morrison, Greg Hunt & Malcom Turnbull

      At any rate we will measure her by what she does though we are clearly dealing with a pedigree WEF type with little actual dirt under her fingernails.

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        David Maddison

        London School of Economics – Fabian Socialist.

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        Annie

        “Kew Woman”.

        When we moved to Kew for a few years a friend warned us about a certain category of the local female population! She was right.

        I wonder if the new leader fits the description?

        I should add that there were also some lovely people there who became good friends.

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      Gob

      Wilson was the only Victorian Liberal MP to publicly back the Voice referendum according to https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/jess-wilson-determined-to-prove-the-liberal-party-is-still-relevant-20251118-p5ngay; I guess she supports the Gellung Warl sorcery extension to the Vic parliament.

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        Gob

        I was wrong (as so often): Jess Wilson has vowed to repeal the Gellung Warl should she gain government in next year’s Victorian election.

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      Paul Siebert

      David Maddison,#4
      ____”And why get rid of the previous leader Battin now? He was actually ahead in the polls. It’s as though the Liberal Party has a wish for self-destruction and a desire to never be elected.”

      ____The script shifted to single party management. Central Planning likes the team they have installed.

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    David Maddison

    The internet broke for the last couple of hours…

    I would like to see Mr Musk’s Starlink play a role in a future more reliable Internet and also a role in helping freedom-oriented people escape the excesses of censorship such as laws against supposed mis- and disinformation in the fully woke WEF and UN compliant countries such as Australia.

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      Graham Richards

      At the first sign of internet problems I’ll dump the NBN link for Starlink. My daughter is using it because nobody else can give trouble free services in northern NSW, only about an hour’s drive south from Surfers Paradise.

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        yarpos

        Depends what kind of problems you are talking about. In some cases a change to Starlink wont help much at all. Starlink provides a great option where NBN services dont reach, but you still may be impacted by the likes of the Cloudflare outage. They provide higher level services like security, name resolution etc that sits on top of the data transmission service that Starlink and the NBN provide.

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        YallaYPoora Kid

        We couldn’t get fixed or wireless NBN in any reliable form due to local bureaucracy and resorted to NBN via Skymesh satellite despite being in a town precinct on NSW South Coast. Their promised 100 MB/s service was so slow and unreliable especially during cloudy/wet weather that we dumped it and moved to Starlink. The service is fantastic with great speeds up to 400 MB/s at the moment for an annual starting sub of $119/month.

        BTW Starlink is only an interface to the internet and not the internet itself. It appears the Cloudfare app was the guilty party rather than and broad internet crash.

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          YallaYPoora Kid

          BTW the Skymesh latency is up to 700 ms which made it impossible for reliable VOI phone calls and for any internet communication with government portals such as myGov apps. Their handshake technology can’t work with such high latency. The Starlink ping is less than 30 ms.

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    David Maddison

    Video.

    Amazing stone mason talent and team work from old times.

    Making a giant grindstone using entirely hand tools.

    https://youtu.be/z4U_QKoMiqk

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      Ross

      David, the idiots who run the NBN these days have been looking at a replacement for Skymuster. Skymuster was the satellite internet service pitched at remote and regional Australia. For farmers and those with poor internet service. Over the last 2 years most farmers have signed up to Starlink and are loving it. So, you would think the NBN would have opted for Space X’s Starlink to replace Skymuster. Nope. No doubt because Elon backed Trump , they will use Amazon’s, LEO network. Trouble is, there is no LEO network yet. Meanwhile, like me, if you’ve been on Starlink for 12 months, you can get a Starlink Mini for free.

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        Ross

        Reply to #5- my bad.

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        Vicki

        We have been using Activ8 satellite service as we cant access NBN in our area which is regarded as “remote”. It has generally been a reasonable service. However, I am keen on changing to Starlink, though husband is resistant considering our service is adequate.

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      Broadie

      Loved watching the blacksmith temper the pick heads while moving them in and out of the forge with his bare hands.

      The chiselling process was the one where the ‘F’ word was commonly used when with the grindstone nearing completion a crack appears after one of the last strokes of the mortar pick.

      I also used the same word when I tripped over one of these things left near a walking track on the Isle of Arran.

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        Fran

        My dad and brother built a beautifully faced 2 story stone house in the 1970’s, starting with drilling holes with a cold chisel to blast out Muskoka granite. The arches around doors and windows were cut from a truckload of Scottish granite (ballast in returning grain boats) used for paving in Toronto, all refaced.

        Bit of a white elephant now as condensation inside the stone walls has eaten some of the insulation. Not a practical design for Canada.

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    David Maddison

    Video.

    Recycling old tyres in Pakistan.

    A filthy process with no regard to pollution or safety.

    Products are pyrolysis “oil”, carbon black, and steel from tyre reinforcement.

    The pyrolysis oil product is used for heating or electricity production but it is high in sulfur and therefore polluting without proper emissions controls or processing to remove the sulfur. But these people are unlikely to care.

    Interesting.

    https://youtu.be/v-OCaR2BQNI

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    David Maddison

    I have known about the 10,000 year clock project for a long time. It is a clock designed to last and keep accurate time for 10,000 years.

    In 1995 one of the designers wrote:

    I want to build a clock that ticks once a year. The century hand advances once every one hundred years, and the cuckoo comes out on the millennium. I want the cuckoo to come out every millennium for the next 10,000 years. If I hurry I should finish the clock in time to see the cuckoo come out for the first time.

    It’s a serious project and Jeff Bezos has invested US$42 million into it.

    https://longnow.org/clock/

    The 10,000-year clock

    An immense mechanical monument, installed in a mountain, designed to keep accurate time for the next ten millennia. The 10,000-year clock is hundreds of feet tall, engineered to require minimal maintenance, and powered by mechanical energy harvested from sunlight.

    The 10,000-year clock will mark time with astronomic and calendric displays and a chime generator designed with the help of Brian Eno that can produce over 3.5 million unique bell chime sequences — one for every day the clock is visited for the next 10,000 years.
    Ten thousand years is about the age of modern civilization, so the clock will measure out a future of civilization equal to its past. This assumes our civilization is in the middle of whatever journey we are on — an implicit statement of optimism.

    To see the clock you need to start at dawn, like any pilgrimage. It will require a day’s hike to reach its interior gears.

    The first monument-scale 10,000-year clock still being assembled, deep inside a mountain, in West Texas.

    SEE LINK FOR REST

    The Mechanism

    The 10,000-year clock is entirely mechanical, made of long-lasting materials, including titanium, ceramics, quartz, sapphire, and 316 stainless steel. Even the most accurate mechanical clocks eventually drift off of the correct time, so the clock synchronizes with the noontime sun. The clock counts oscillations of the pendulum for day to day time, sunlight falling on the solar synchronizer to account for long-term drift, and a precomputed correction to solar time to accommodate for the orbital and rotational changes of Earth (rendered by the iconic Equation of Time Cam). Outputs include a depiction of the sky in the form of an orrery, a display of the Gregorian calendar date, and the chimes.

    Video: https://youtu.be/pKuJBGb_pN4

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      Eng_Ian

      I built a sundial.

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        David Maddison

        Yes, but the earth’s 26,000 year precession cycle will make it inaccurate over 10,000 years and there is an annual variation of up to 16 mins due to axial tilt and elliptical orbit (which can be compensated by tables or lines on the sundial but you would have to know the day of the year). And the sundial is weather and day/night dependant. I suppose a sundial could have markings to compensate for orbital precession but you’d have to know what year you were in. Also, a sundial can be accurate to only a few minutes due to the sun not casting a sharp shadow.

        The 10,000 year clock operates 24 hrs/day and is accurate without knowledge of the day of the year or the year number.

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          Eng_Ian

          Yet I can still tell the time.

          And it’s low cost.

          And I don’t have to pay someone else to make it.

          And it’s concreted in place, hard to steal, hard to break.

          How’s that millennial clock going on those last couple of points.

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          Gob

          I did one that uses the gnomon’s shadow length to indicate the day of the year; hyperbolae are scribed on the base to denote the astrological house in which the sun currently dwells –one needs to be aware that today the sun is in Scorpio, not Aquarius with which it shares the band between curves. Accuracy, well, it’s what we call a rough guide.

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          Vicki

          Buckminster Fuller used to say that when we understand the principle of precession we shall understand more about our life on this planet.

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            RickWill

            Earth’s orbital precessions is the main driver of climate change on Earth. I have found that very few people actually understand what precession does for solar intensity across latitudes and seasons.

            And climate models are blind to solar power. They are based on the correct assumption that the energy arriving each year to either hemisphere is close to constant. But the climate does not work like that . More sunlight in summer means hotter oceans ahead of less sunlight in autumn so there is more snow. The SH hemisphere completed that cycle about 1200 years ago. The NH started the warmer summer phase about 300 years ago. And just 9,000 years of NH increasing summer sunlight.

            Ice is already accumulating agains on the Greenland plateau. And the northern slopes of the Himalayas are gaining altitude.

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    Greg in NZ

    All good here on the Intertubes.

    It’s a long, long way from Tassie to Darwin – how does The Klimate do it! Snow to 700m for Mt Wellington in the south, while TC Fina (Cat 1) spawns itself off the coast of Darwin, NT (via BoM).

    The best, or worst, of both worlds: how does Carbon™️ do it! Green heads will be spinning 😵‍💫

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      RickWill

      I will make a prediction that the TC will slide down to the southwest and cross near Wyndham. The NT is presently too wet and cold to support a TC.

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        Eng_Ian

        What’s the water temperature off shore?

        Cyclones need hot water and they are very good at cooling what is already hot. I think they are a special case of negative feedback, reliable, always work as planned and are driven by one event only, heat.

        I’m waiting for someone to claim that the weather will reach a tipping point and the cyclones will soon spin the other direction causing the water to get hotter and the air to cool. Hell, they might even say that they’ll cross from one hemisphere to the other, (and I’m not talking East/West).

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          RickWill

          Water down to Wyndham is 30.5C. The top end of the NT land already has a lot of moisture. It is only 26C at the moment with cloud over it keeping it cool..

          The land south of Wyndham is drier and now at 35C. So I expect that will draw it down the coast.

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            Eng_Ian

            The heat rising off the hotter ocean will draw the cyclone to it. It’s a simple plan, easily thwarted if there is a jet stream in play but a good start for the forecast if nothing else is blowing around.

            Cyclone path predictions should show the water temperature, it will also give a great look ahead to the potential strength of the storm. No heat, no power.

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    RicDre

    This reminds me of a incident that occurred many years ago at our company. We had just switched our company’s communications over from point-to-point telephone lines to AT&T’s distributed Frame-Relay network. What made me nervous was that the various locations had no back-up communications path and were entirely dependent on the AT&T network. I voiced my qualms about this set-up to management but was reassured that the system was internally redundant and that a major breakdown of the system was impossible. About a week later, the whole system failed for about 6 hours. What happened was that an update to one of the switches in the network had a bug that would eventually cause the switch to fail. This update was propagated to the other switches in the network and eventually the whole network crashed.

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      ianl

      The largest constant threat to all these critical programmes (including Windows, Linux etc) is their own updates.

      Cause more crashes than the CCP.

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      Eng_Ian

      I wonder if someone has already stated the bleeding obvious.

      “The more parts needed to make the system operate lead to more chances of a breakdown.”

      It’s a little like Occam’s razor but more fun to watch. Especially the excuses from management when the consequences they flippantly waved off become reality.

      Of course there is always the alternative, KISS. A process that still operates with minimum risk.

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        RicDre

        “The more parts needed to make the system operate lead to more chances of a breakdown.”

        Or as Scotty said “The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain.”

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      Paul Siebert

      RicDre, #10,
      ____Titanic.
      ____Or, was it Brittanic?

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    David Maddison

    Release of Epstein files claims first high level Democrat.

    More to come.

    It’s backfired on the Democrats.

    Dr Steve Turley discusses;

    https://youtu.be/5Kw5tG5TI4Y

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      Skepticynic

      And now we find out Kevin Rudd held a cocktail party at Epstein’s house.
      We already knew Paul Keating’s daughter Katherine was associated with Epstein but now Paul is named in emails. Was Katherine being used to get to her father?

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      Graham Richards

      I keep saying that you’ve got to get up very early EVERY morning to try & stay ahead of Trump. I believe he’s known since the beginning of the Epstein saga about every last detail of its content! 😇😇
      He’s been waiting for the right time to have all the gory details made public, Revenge will be sweet! Be sure not to get in the way of all the cockroaches speeding away trying to keep the sunlight from burning them. 😂😂

      Wonder if there’ll be any more “ suicides “ !!

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      Honk R Smith

      David,
      the ‘files’ are being released only after being carefully massaged to backfire on not much of anybody that hasn’t already suffered backfire.
      You don’t get bi-partisan votes without bi-partisan damage or benefit.
      Like UFOs, JFK, and ‘Climate Change’, facts can barely be seen through The Blob smoke screen.
      No matter how long the Maldives don’t drown, most people will believe the Maldives are drowning.

      What faux Congressional drama will follow the Epstein Congressional Clown Car?
      I can’t guess.
      The UAP/Alien one has recently been playing in the third ring.
      But no one is watching.

      Ironic example,
      ‘legitimate’ academic astronomy types will have a discussion about the Fermi Paradox.
      “So many stars, such high probabilty, why haven’t we seen them?”
      While the US Congress is virtually confirming they’ve been visiting for years, crashing (which indicates they may actually just be Asian) … and The Blob is absorbing their tech, but won’t tell the truth seeking Congresspersons.

      Not only that, Congress seems to show that the military is just seeing and recording flying saucers everywhere.
      Everybody is seeing them except me.
      Another thing I’m missing out on.

      I do though feel certain, I’m more likely to see a UAP before I know the truth about Epstein.
      Excepting for the obvious certainty that was it an operation carried on by all The Blob’s Blobs.
      As are the things mentioned above.

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “COP-30 Insanity Vs the Global Tide of Climate and Energy Reality”

    “Climate grifters heading to Brazil for November 10-21 climate gabfest face new challenges”

    More at

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/11/17/cop-30-insanity-vs-the-global-tide-of-climate-and-energy-reality/

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “New Freedom of Information Request and the UK Met Office has to Rewrite its Temperature Explanations Again”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/11/18/new-freedom-of-information-request-and-the-uk-met-office-has-to-rewrite-its-temperature-explanations-again/

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    Penguinite

    Todays Australian
    “Our two-billion-litre wine problem is impossible to ignore
    Last week I told you all about Australia’s best wines – but I was only telling half the story. The truth is there are long-term structural issues with Australian wine and now a reckoning is upon us”.

    So, pull the vines and plant solar panels! NT Aboriginal Communities have just signed a deal for Sun Power Australia (another millionaires wet dream) to build a solar farm on 3 hectares of Aboriginal land that will consist of over 3000 panels to provide energy and cash to the local land owners over the next 70 years. Excess power will be sold to Singapore/Philippines. But only if the subsidies keep coming and the massive infrastructure is built. They had a problem with Captain Cook but this is unlikely to work out well

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      Chad

      Sun Power Australia (another millionaires wet dream) to build a solar farm on 3 hectares of Aboriginal land that will consist of over 3000 panels to provide energy and cash to the local land owners over the next 70 years. Excess power will be sold to Singapore/Philippines

      ?? ..i suspect there are a few zeros missing in those figures ..!
      3000 panels could fit on the roof of any Bunnings store !

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        Eng_Ian

        Have you considered the need for the panels to be more than a stone’s throw from the perimeter razor wire fence?

        And of course, all this needs to be inside the perimeter bank and ditch, designed to stop stolen Land Cruisers.

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      Graeme4

      Have to compete with cheap gas being piped to Darwin. Also I believe there are at least two other NT solar factories still trying to obtain permission to connect to the NT grid. So I’m not sure how adding another unwanted expensive solar factory will achieve anything.

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    Skepticynic

    Even Switzerland!

    Switzerland’s Surveillance Law Prompts Proton to Relocate Infrastructure
    Switzerland’s proposed surveillance law amendment threatens its privacy reputation by mandating data retention for encrypted services like Proton’s. Proton opposes it as catastrophic, relocating infrastructure to Germany and Norway. This could drive tech firms away, reshaping global privacy landscapes amid security vs. freedom tensions.

    https://www.webpronews.com/switzerlands-surveillance-law-prompts-proton-to-relocate-infrastructure/

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Asylum for Brits seeking to flee Starmer’s free speech crackdown

    The Trump White House is mulling political asylum for British free speech activists branded “thought criminals” under Keir Starmer’s regime, in one example offering refugee status to those prosecuted for silent protests outside abortion clinics as well as expressing online dissent.”

    https://richardsonpost.com/steve-watson/41028/trump-offers-lifeline-to-uk-thought-criminals/

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      Steve of Cornubia

      Check out the latest news about a UK lady named Lucy Connolly. The wife of a Conservative councilor, she tweeted a wish for a hotel housing illegal immigrants to burn down, after one of its occupants stabbed and killed several little girls. Thinking better of it, three hours later she deleted it, but not before the Stasi had reported it to the government. She was jailed and released a week or so ago. She was then invited to go to America and speak to Congress about her experiences.

      That’s when she found out that she has been placed under a ‘Multi-Agency Public Protection Arrangement’, which prevents her from travelling overseas. These are normally only applied to violent and/or dangerous offenders – just three other such people across the whole of the UK have been so penalised. Even some murderers and rapists haven’t been slapped with a ‘MAPPA’, showing just where naughty tweets sit of the government’s hierarchy of offences, though being married to a member of the political opposition perhaps qualifies as an aggravating factor for sentencing purposes?

      Note that the UK is now No. 1 in the world for arresting people who have said the wrong thing, above Russia, above China and even above North Korea, where you can be shot for charging people too much for fixing their bicycle.

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    KP

    Freedom of speech in NSW will vanish under $22000 fines for supporting ideas the Govt makes a public show of disliking. H1tler would be proud of them!

    “People who chant Nazi slogans or invoke Nazi “characteristics” would face up to two years in prison and a $22,000 fine under new laws to be introduced to state parliament today. The charge would come with a maximum penalty of a year in prison or an $11,000 fine, and doubled to two years’ imprisonment or a $22,000 if the Nazi display is outside a synagogue, a Jewish school or the Sydney Jewish Museum. Police would also be given new powers to order a suspected Nazi symbol be taken down, and introduce fines of $2200 or a three-month prison sentence for those who don’t follow police direction. Police would also have the power to force a person to reveal their identity if it would help officers investigate a suspected Nazi display.”

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/prison-time-22-000-fines-for-nazi-chants-in-new-laws-20251119-p5ngjc.html?js-chunk-not-found-refresh=true

    No comments allowed of course! You are allowed to be Muslim and criticise the Jews, but not a Christian and do the same.

    I don’t know how they will handle tattoos, it should be quite interesting exactly which symbols they ban. The Ukrainians can give them a nice wide range of images from their soldiers…. How about numbers on your forehead?

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      Eng_Ian

      Let’s hope that someone does a real deep dive into the past of all the sitting members of parliament.

      Any sign of not complying, (in their past), with this legislation should be a reason to see them fall on their sword. Maybe we could bait them with a simple, “Raise your hand”, if you want another brown paper bag full of money.

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      el+gordo

      Troops wearing patches bearing Nazi emblems is not uncommon, even though the practice has been banned. It gives a bad impression and the Kremlin takes full advantage.

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        KP

        Well, at least the Kremlin doesn’t have to fake it, there is plenty of examples of Ukrainian Naz1 followers proudly displaying their regalia over the last 5 years, look at any AZOV member.

        This is the whole problem of Ukraine, like many African countries, the lines drawn on the map made one country out of two tribes of deadly enemies. Western Ukraine includes the followers of Stephan Bandera and those who supported the Naz1s in WW2, Eastern Ukraine was Russian-speaking and remembered the invasion by Germany very well.

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      ozfred

      I wonder if letters to the editor (various newspapers) with verses quoted from a selection of “holy” texts would ever be published?

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Highlights From Lavrov’s Interview That A Leading Italian Newspaper Refused To Publish”

    “Leading Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera scandalously refused to publish in full the exclusive written interview with Sergey Lavrov that the Russian Foreign Ministry offered them in order to clarify Russia’s positions and with which they were eager to cooperate until they received the answers from him. ”

    More at

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/highlights-lavrovs-interview-leading-italian-newspaper-refused-publish

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “COP30: Climate Of Love”

    “Sheila Gunn Reid;

    Earlier this week, Indigenous activists stormed the perimeter of the summit grounds. Within minutes, the UN’s climate utopia transformed into a militarized zone. The very people who preach open borders and “climate migration” fenced themselves in behind walls, concrete blocks, and armed officers.”

    https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2025/11/18/cop30-climate-of-love/

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “People Using AI for Information
    November 18, 2025 | Sundance | 136 Comments”

    “The purposeful cleaving of accounts, websites, voices and ultimately information providers, was intended to scatter source information into the wind, leaving only approved information sources allied with Tech/Govt intentions.

    Subsequently, when AI was launched on the various platforms being used by the larger public, the inputs which frame the AI results are controlled by the same people who built the AI systems. When you engage with AI, you are engaging with a system that only has “approved information” behind it to deliver the outputs.”

    “Remember this the next time you intentionally choose to abdicate your thinking to Groc, OpenAI or ChatGPT.”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/11/18/people-using-ai-for-information/

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      Eng_Ian

      Well said. This is the new ‘creeping’ evil. And there are many people on this site who offer AI as a source. I believe that time will see them regret this slide toward the inevitable brain zombie that the left desire.

      The dumber the population, the more you can make them do as you want.

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    Penguinite

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-19/tony-white-car-dealership-purchases-k-d-utas-site/106023938

    Students not allowed. Hobart rejects manpower for horsepower in the middle of their precious shitty

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      yarpos

      Good grief, the handwringers drag homeless into the argument. I wonder what there plans were for homeless people in Sandy Bay, that were thwarted by this development. (One of the more upmarket areas in Hobart)

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    MrGrimNasty

    I don’t think anyone’s frozen to death in the UK yet, unless they’re naked and 1000m up a Scottish mountain. -2C to +8C with me today some rain, no frost expected tonight, possibly sleetiness +7C tomorrow.

    Weather warnings these days have no basis in reality, cold or hot, it’s almost as if they are merely issued to create a near permanent state of alarm.

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      RickWill

      My son lives near Cambridge and he said they were unaffected by the rain and the house was still warm without heating because it is well insulated but was expecting it to colder today.

      Reporting has changed though because now there is as much alarm about cold as warm.

      When snow was going to end, snow was never reported. Now that it is Climate Change™ and not Global Warming™ it is OK to make a big deal about cold as well as hot.

      So UK grid has not been tested this season yet. I willl keep my eye on the situation. I still think UK will break before Australia but summers is the tough season for the NEM.

      Darwin currently has a ‘cyclone” sitting offshore with a central pressure of 991hPa and packing 67kph winds – I hope you like ‘packing’, which is modern climate speak. It has been named Fina but remains a tropical low by definition. BoM shows that it will stay off the coast for another week:
      https://www.bom.gov.au/cyclone/7dayforecast/

      There is also another low spinning up south of Indonesia but It is even less intense.

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      Steve of Cornubia

      In the midst of the current UK climate panic, my brother went to check out a couple of canal boats, intending to buy one. He sent some pics. Cloudy with patches of blue sky, several people walking the tow path in lightweight jackets. No trace of frost, let alone ice.

      The horror!

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    The internet broke for the last couple of hours as Cloudflare crashed,

    It just ain’t human.

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    another ian

    FWIW – for the covid record

    Starts at

    “Read carefully. Yesterday, Science Direct ran a science story with the alarming headline, “Strange Structures Found Lurking in The Blood of People With Long COVID.” The story referred to an October study published in the Journal of Medical Virology, titled, “Circulating Microclots Are Structurally Associated With Neutrophil Extracellular Traps and Their Amounts Are Elevated in Long COVID Patients.” Though avoiding the ‘V’ word like it was a pair of LDS evangelists ringing the front doorbell, the study confirmed a critical piece of the vaccine injury puzzle.”

    More at

    https://open.substack.com/pub/coffeeandcovid/p/save-maga-tuesday-november-18-2025?

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      David of Cooyal in Oz

      Thanks a i,
      Fascinating reading. And these two paragraphs I found particularly telling:

      As I said, the word “vaccine” is found nowhere in the study. But there was a tantalizing hint. The researchers clearly connected the strange clots to spike protein, observing that: “We showed that the simple presence of the spike protein S1 from SARS-CoV-2 is sufficient to induce fibrinolytic-resistant microclots.”

      Boom! Spike protein alone is sufficient to induce the clots. Did you catch that tiny, one-sentence hint? Which government-mandated “public health” product delivers spike protein alone? You know the answer. Apart from pointing a bloody finger at the jabs, why else mention that the “simple presence of spike protein” was enough to create clots? It’s vague and well-disguised, but it is there.

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    David Maddison

    How many people killed by wild animals USA vs Australia?

    From Gulag AI:

    USA

    The number of deaths from wild animals in the USA varies, but recent data suggests an average of about 267 per year from animal-related encounters, according to a study from 2018–2023. However, a broader analysis including wildlife-vehicle collisions shows a higher number of over 700 annual fatalities from all types of wildlife encounters, including direct attacks, diseases, and collisions. Deer, through vehicle collisions, are the most significant cause of death.

    Direct animal attacks

    Roughly 8 people die annually from direct attacks by wild animals such as snakes, birds, rodents, and raccoons.

    Approximately 47,000 people seek medical attention for bites and attacks from wild animals each year.

    Wildlife-related incidents

    Vehicle collisions: Wildlife-vehicle collisions result in over 440 human fatalities each year.

    Aircraft collisions: Wildlife-aircraft collisions add around 10 more fatalities annually.

    Zoonotic diseases: Over 68,000 people seek medical help for zoonotic diseases, with 243 of these cases being fatal.

    Other important factors

    The most dangerous animal in the USA is the deer, due to the number of fatal vehicle collisions caused by them, not direct attacks.

    The overall average of about 267 deaths per year from 2018-2023 is a combination of direct attacks, venomous bites, and animal-related diseases.

    AUSTRALIA

    Australia averages about 34 animal-related deaths per year, with a significant portion caused by venomous snakes (average 2 deaths per year), crocodiles (average 1-2 deaths per year), and sharks. However, the deadliest animals are often less feared, with horses, cattle, and bees causing more fatalities due to falls, kicks, and anaphylactic shock from stings.

    Breakdown of animal-related deaths

    Snakes: About 2 deaths per year, despite 3,000 snake bites annually.

    Crocodiles: Roughly 1-2 deaths per year, with 25 fatalities reported between 2001 and 2021.

    Sharks: 1-2 deaths per year, with 39 fatalities from 2001 to 2021.

    Horses, cattle, and other mammals: These animals account for a significant number of deaths, often through falls or being kicked.

    Bees, wasps, and hornets: Stings can be fatal, especially for those with anaphylaxis.

    Spiders: Funnel-web spider deaths have not occurred since antivenom was introduced in 1981.

    Other factors to consider

    Gender: Males are disproportionately affected, accounting for 67.7% of animal-related deaths.

    Source: Data from the National Coronial Information System shows the average of 34 deaths is based on coronial reports.

    Hospitalizations: While fatalities are relatively low, many more hospitalizations occur due to animal-related injuries.

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    el+gordo

    ‘Amid the corruption scandal at Energoatom, talks between Trump’s special representative Steve Witkoff and the head of the President’s Office, Andriy Yermak, were canceled.’

    Andriy Yermek is expected to resign, so Zelensky went in his stead to try and kickstart a ceasefire.

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    OldOzzie

    FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF SAN FRANCISCO – WORKING PAPER SERIES

    What Is a Tariff Shock? – Insights from 150 years of Tariff Policy – November 2025

    6 Conclusion

    In this paper we exploit 150 years of tariff policy in the US and abroad to estimate the short-run effects of tariff shocks on macro aggregates.

    A careful review of the major changes in US tariff policy since 1870 shows no systematic relation between the state of the cycle and the direction of the tariff changes, as partisan differences on the effects and desirability of tariffs led to opposite policy responses to similar economic conditions.

    Exploiting this quasirandom nature of tariff variations, we find that a tariff hike raises unemployment (lowers economic activity) and lowers CPI inflation.

    Using only tariff changes driven by long-run considerations—a traditional narrative identification—gives similar results.

    We also obtain similar results if we restrict the sample to the modern post World War II period or if we use independent variation from other countries (France and the UK).

    The inflation response goes against the predictions of standard models, whereby CPI inflation should go up in response to higher tariffs.

    We provide suggestive evidence that an aggregate demand channel can be at play, but an important avenue for future research is to
    understand the theoretical reasons for these surprising yet robust findings, which are central to the appropriate monetary response to tariff shocks.

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “ALBANESE’S AND BOWEN’S GREATEST FEAR IS NOW EMERGING!”

    “Following the LNP Coalition’s decision to scrap Net Zero, the Albanese government is facing its worst nightmare – a sensible alternative climate policy that will be much cheaper for Australians than their fantasy world and disastrous $9,000,000,000,000 renewables-only approach.

    Growing resistance to wind and solar projects has intensified as Australians show a national revolt against Net Zero that’s no longer limited to regional/rural areas.

    The scale of opposition to large-scale renewable energy projects across Australia is far greater than many in the political class are willing to admit, according to new research from the Institute of Public Affairs (IPA). ”

    More at

    https://richardsonpost.com/cliff-reece/41042/albaneses-and-bowens-greatest-fear-is-now-emerging/

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    GreatAuntJanet

    I realize that there are varying opinions about nuclear energy in Australia here, but if you have a few spare minutes, take a listen to this impressive man being ‘grilled’ by politicians at a senate enquiry on the subject of mis/dis information. Bureaucrats and politicians never seem to answer straight questions in these things – but Will Shackel was cool as a cucumber and sure of his subject and responses.

    I have never seen anything quite like it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlebME9y9UA

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      RickWill

      They did not quite get what they expected there.

      I did not think Malcolm Roberts was on this committeee. But with both Mat Cananav and Malcolm Roberts there is a strong alternative view to the greens.

      It would be quite funny the greens having to come out to defend a nuclear supporter who is identifying the level of disinformation on nuclear power being promoted by Bown and Labor..

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        Environment Sceptic

        The only problem is that the production and reprocessing of nuclear fuel is incredibly toxic.

        The processing of chemicals used to make Lithium batteries is also incredibly toxic. Edison batteries are far better for the environment in terms of chemical processing and subsequent disposal.

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          Joe

          Oh, you mean that reprocessing nuclear oxides into fluorides via a standard off the shelf fluoridation column so that a molten salt reactor can breakdown the tailings to reduced radioactive material is incredibly toxic. So is any process involving Fluorine. SO WHAT, we do that every day of the week.

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Reality Caught Up to ‘Climate Change’

    The climate creed that once ruled unquestioned is cracking as energy needs, geopolitical reality, and basic science force the West to admit carbon isn’t dying anytime soon.”

    https://amgreatness.com/2025/11/17/reality-caught-up-to-climate-change/

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Booker Signals the Left Can Eat Its Own, and the Feast Has Begun”

    “The Opening Shot in a Democratic Food Fight”

    “Recently, Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) walked onto the Senate stage with a smile and a blowtorch while calling for Chuck Schumer’s removal as Democratic leader. In fact, Booker practically launched the opening bell of a heavyweight fight, but this time it’s inside his own locker room.”

    More at

    https://pjmedia.com/david-manney/2025/11/18/booker-signals-the-left-can-eat-its-own-and-the-feast-has-begun-n4946161

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    another ian

    FWIW

    I guess Canada trumped Oz at COP 30?

    “Crisis In Health Care”

    “WATCH: Canadian doctors leads a dance and rap performance at the COP30 climate summit to warn about the health impact of rising global emissions.”

    https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2025/11/18/crisis-in-health-care/

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      Peter C

      I mean, are we all just fools

      It sure looks like it.

      I wouldn’t want one of those doctors to be my doctor!

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    GreatAuntJanet

    Did they do a welcome to country too, like us?
    https://x.com/Matt_Camenzuli/status/1990662596392026136

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    Peter C

    Viv Forbes

    I have just been informed via Jennifer Marohasy that Viv Forbes died recently.

    I hope Jo will write a special post about Viv and his contribution to the Climate Debate.

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    MeAgain

    I don’t want to go to school Mum.
    There’s asbestos in the coloured sand…

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      another ian

      No doubt we’ll also see

      “I don’t want to go to the beach Mum. There is radioactivity in the beach sand”?

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    another ian

    FWIW – more mRNA and covid

    Dr John Campbell

    https://youtu.be/SDFUymH-9W8

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Kruiser’s (Almost) Daily Distraction: The Golden Age of Hospital Sushi”

    https://pjmedia.com/stephen-kruiser/2025/11/18/kruisers-almost-daily-distraction-the-golden-age-of-hospital-sushi-n4946162

    Fortunately for readers it is paywalled – though imagining could be worse than the actual read

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