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UK slashes Net Zero taxes on gas guzzling industries to stop the collapse of British Industry

By Jo Nova

That didn’t take long?

It feels like Net Zero is undergoing a rapid unscheduled disassembly.

Two months ago the UK Prime Minster was going gangbusters. He told the world Britain would go “all out”to accelerate Net Zero, to bolster energy security and weather control, because “it’s in the DNA of my government”. This week, the same Prime Minister says he will save factories by cutting power bills for more than 7,000 of the most energy-intensive businesses “by up to 25%” by slashing net zero charges.  So the companies that produce the most CO2 will be excused, because they will go out of business, but the rest of the UK can pay even more, because they aren’t going broke yet.

Speaking of which, industry groups warned a few weeks ago that high electricity costs threatened UK Manufacturing. And  five days ago the largest fibreglass factory in the UK announced it would close because of the high electricity prices.

It makes no sense to pretend that a Net Zero economy is a goal to aim for while exempting the highest emitters. Does CO2 matter or doesn’t it? Obviously Net Zero is just the moveable excuse to make the taxes as high as “whatever the market will bear”. Tax ’em til they scream?

The Telegraph team report that UK business pay an eye-watering £258 per MWh in 2023, “compared to £218 in Italy, £178 in France and £177 in Germany”. Companies in the US paid just £65. Wow. But Australian brown coal still bids and wins wholesale electricity auctions in Australia for £5 or £10 a MWh. If the UK invaded Australia (it wouldn’t be hard, just avoid the Virgin flight paths) they could set up a factory next to Loy Yang, and could get the cheapest electricity in the developed world.

I’m old enough to remember April 2025:

 This article is more than 1 month oldBritain will accelerate push to net zero, Starmer tells energy summit

The Guardian, April 25, 2025 

Britain will go “all out” for a low-carbon future and accelerate the push to net zero instead of slowing down as some have demanded, the prime minister said on Thursday. In his strongest declaration yet of support for the net zero agenda, Sir Keir Starmer told a conference in London of more than 60 countries that tackling the climate crisis and bolstering energy security were “in the DNA of my government”.

Now in a heroic moment that is a “turning point for the economy”, and “a break, from short-termism” he will slash NetZero taxes:

The marketing word salami is becoming unreal:

Starmer slashes net zero charges to save Britain’s factories Just to correct the Telegraph subheader, the PM is not “cutting power bills” by even one cent. He has not made electricity cheaper, nor increased efficiency, productivity, or competition. He is just cutting his own weather-bending taxes (somewhat).

Some British companies that survive as long as 2027, won’t have pay the net zero levies, like the renewables obligation and the feed-in tariff:

The Telegraph: June 22nd, 2025

Net zero taxes will be slashed for thousands of manufacturers as Sir Keir Starmer scrambles to save British industry from crippling electricity costs.

As part of the Government’s long-awaited Industrial Strategy, the Prime Minister is to cut power bills by up to 25pc for some 7,000 “electricity intensive” manufacturers, including car makers, aircraft factories and chemical plants.

It comes after repeated warnings that British manufacturers are labouring under the highest industrial electricity prices of any developed country, with output down by a third since 2021.

The Prime Minister said: “This Industrial Strategy marks a turning point for Britain’s economy and a clear break from the short-termism and sticking plasters of the past.

Only six months ago at COP29,  the UK set a “Shining Example” of 2035 targets committing to an 81% reduction in emissions by 2035. Back then, just days after Trump was elected, Net Zero was goal for “growth” and a race to “get ahead”:

“Our goal of 1.5°C is aligned with our goals for growth,” Starmer told the global climate conference.

“Because make no mistake, the race is on for the clean energy jobs of the future; the economy of tomorrow. And I don’t want to be in middle of the pack. I want to get ahead of the game.”

What game did he want to be ahead in? Winning at UN Bingo?

A generation from now, we must repeat all these emphatic slippery words in schools so that children grow up learning that politicians can speak 100% fantasies, right up until it all falls over, and even then they won’t stop.

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81 comments to UK slashes Net Zero taxes on gas guzzling industries to stop the collapse of British Industry

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    Richard Ilfeld

    Gosh! “Net Zero” is Net, Zero!
    Nothing, Nada, Zilch.

    Most of us get to reality sooner or later.
    It’s too bad that for most government types it’s later….
    but hopefully too late to preserve their sinecures.

    Trump is seriously cleaning house in the US. Even New York,
    which disabled their Indian Point Nuclear a few years ago, now
    want to build a new one. Gee, the taxpayers pay both coming and going.

    I await with some dread the insane left’s next focus.

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      John F. Hultquist

      I await with some dread the insane left’s next focus.”
      That makes me shudder. The question has three parts. What will it be? When will we know. And 3, will I still be here?

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    Peter Fitzroy

    Shows how state capture works.

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      David Maddison

      So are you seriously suggesting that what’s left of British industry should be allowed to collapse due to high energy prices?

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      johnny Rotten

      Can’t build a Nuclear Submarine without electricity and steel. And for steel you need CARBON. LOL.

      Welcome to the Real World.

      And how wa the Computer or Mobile Phone that you posted your daft message on made? More LOL.

      Even the Muppets are smarter than you and your posts.

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    Tonyb

    This new policy will start in 2027 and by that time many firms will be out of business.

    The taxes are instead being shifted to industrial gas users so British industry will still be hobbled

    https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2025/06/23/robbing-peter-to-pay-paul/#more-87347

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      David Maddison

      Good points Tony.

      So maybe it’s just virtue signaling and the socialist Government will still achieve their objective of Net Zero Industry?

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        Bruce

        “Two-Tier Keir” is just trying to deflect the possibility of the last handful of sane peasants in the Untidy Kingdom REALLY getting angry and putting the heads of all the guilty bastards on pikes.

        Caveat:

        Note how easily the international socialists have recently upgraded their long-standing arrangements with the head-lopping sand pirates. First noticed in the late 1940ss, when the previous “arrangement” with the “national” socialists had fallen over in 1945.

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      Murray Shaw

      2027, is that about a year before the next British election. Just in time for the measure to breathe some life into the economy for some bragging rights during the campaign. Will ther be anything left to revive by 27?

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        David Maddison

        And due to the engineered rapid demographic changes in Once Great Britain will there even be a country worth saving or even capable of being saved?

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        Ian

        “2027, is that about a year before the next British election.”

        Probably not as the maximum term for a British government is 5 years but the PM can call an election at any time

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        Gerry England

        The latest an election can be held is August 2029 as it must be called by 4 July 2029. It most certainly will not be in August as politicians want their holidays unless Two Tier sees some advantage in it. It then depends on if there is a glimmer of hope at some point and the longer things remain the later it will be. Autumn 2028 would be favourite followed by April 2029.

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      Ronin

      And we think ‘Handsome boy’ is stupid.

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      MeAgain

      These measures will be funded by bearing down on levies and other costs in the energy system.
      (In short, levies on gas see https://www.nesta.org.uk/project/finding-ways-to-deliver-cheaper-electricity-by-rebalancing-levies/household-energy-bills-green-levies/)

      The Government also intends to use additional funds from the strengthening of UK carbon pricing, including as a result of linking with the EU Carbon market.

      https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/68595e56db8e139f95652dc6/industrial_strategy_policy_paper.pdf
      I don’t really find much in the actual policy that looks like slashing net zero charges as the Telegraph reported.

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      AC Osborn

      But note the admission that Net Zero Subsidies = 25% of electricity Bills

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    David Maddison

    How are their solar dimming experiments going?

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    David Maddison

    Meanwhile in the Stupid Country, the Uniparty remains fanatically committed to Net Zero with not even a hint that it might just be a huge mistake.

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      Ronin

      Facts seem ever so slow to penetrate the ‘bubble’.

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      OldOzzie

      City of Sydney BANS gas appliances for all new homes:

      ‘Dirty fossil fuel that has no place in homes’ City of Sydney voted unanimously on the ban Gas appliances will no longer be permitted in new builds

      The ban will come into effect on January 1, 2026

      Lord Mayor Clover Moore’s council on Monday night unanimously adopted the motion banning gas from all new residential builds from December 31 to wean homes and businesses off the fossil fuel.

      The council said the move would save each household up to $626 on their power bills every year.

      The change would see an update to development control rules for the use of electric stoves, ovens, heaters and coolers in all newly built apartments and houses.

      Gas hot water systems will still be permitted under the current regulations.

      ‘We remain in a climate crisis, which means we need to pull every lever we have in order to keep reducing our emissions,’ Moore said. ‘To rely on gas means a continued cost for our hip pocket, a continued cost for our health and a continued cost for our planet.

      It is a price that we simply cannot afford to pay.’

      It joins six other NSW councils that have already banned indoor gas appliances in new builds, while seven other councils are also working towards the same regulations.

      The City of Sydney also proposed a ban on gas appliances in other developments including serviced apartments, new offices and hotels.

      Councillors voted on gathering public feedback on a plan which would ‘require’ the use of renewable energy in the developments if a ban on gas is passed.

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        Dennis

        Sydney City Council and Lord Mayor a leftist stronghold

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        Ronin

        Clean convenient gas has worked just fine in homes for a hundred years, leftist claptrap telling us otherwise.

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        So dependent on electricity for cooking, with no options.

        But. . .
        “Gas hot water systems will still be permitted under the current regulations.”

        Are they saving the planet? Or not?
        Or just power-crazed schizophrenic low-information Brezhnevites?

        Auto, asking because I can (for now, until 2T Keir outlaws thought).

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          Gary S

          The latest batsh!t crazy regulations in Victoria have schizophrenia on full display, as the rules are the opposite of Sydney city.
          Obviously, the planet does not require saving in any way, shape or form, but if it did, surely the solution would be the same in every state?
          These people in charge have no idea what they are messing about with, making rules up as they go along, wrecking peoples lives and livelihoods and so destroying the future of this country that it is doubtful whether it will be recoverable. All virtue signalling at various climate gabfests and U.N. awards nights. There must be many villages around the world missing their idiots.

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        Mike Jonas

        If it saved $626 on power bills, the people would have gone there already.

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    Murray Shaw

    Ah yes, “rapid unscheduled disassembly “, that is “newspeak” for crashing and burning, or in the case of the Elon Musk rocket, exploding.
    Re, the great Yallourn Brown Coal resource and its economic benefits, did I not see that Amazon, or one of the other Tech Giants has bought land adjacent to the Power Station there with the intent of building a data centre or some such thing there.
    The British fibreglass manufacturer should migrate his business to Yallourn and speak to the people running it! Oh, hang on it is scheduled for closure shortly as well. Just prior to the closure of the formerly great State of Victoristan. As it too slips into Administration.

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      RicDre

      “rapid unscheduled disassembly“

      A very appropriate use of this phrase by Jo, though its use may indicate that she has watched too many SpaceX Starship launch videos.

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    David Maddison

    But Australian brown coal still bids and wins wholesale electricity auctions in Australia for £5 or £10 a MWh.

    It is no coincidence that Australia’s cheapest, most efficient and reliable electricity producers are targeted for compulsory closure and immediate destruction, not even mothballing.

    It is engineered, deliberate destruction of our economy by the Left.

    Australia is regressing to primitive weather-dependent power production. The horizontal axis windmill was used in Europe from 1300 until Newcomen developed the first commercially viable steam engine in 1712.

    Now the Stupid Country is reverting to technology of 1300’s Europe.

    Note to overseas readers, Australian consumers never see those low prices. The differential between wholesale coal electricity price and consumer price goes directly to Green subsidy harvesters who own the windmills and panels.

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      Australia’s cheapest, most efficient and reliable electricity producers are targeted for compulsory closure and immediate destruction

      Yeah! Blow up and completely destroy 50 year old power plants still delivering power.

      But, you know, just walk away from a failed 25 year old industrial wind plant, and suggest to the farmer who was paid to have it on his land that if the concrete foundations should be removed, well, that’s surely the problem of ….. the farmer, eh!

      Tony.

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        johnny Rotten

        It won’t work. The only way for the place to wake up is “Crash and Burn”.

        Coming to Australia very soon.

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          David Maddison

          Venezuela crashed and burned but still hasn’t woken up.

          And Australians are probably more apathetic than South Americans.

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            TdeF

            Too late. It’s now a military dictatorship. There’s no coming back. Armies from China and Russia and Cuba are there. De Facto they own the place, not the natives who used to own it. That’s how having all the guns works.

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        Graham Richards

        Anybody out there have the knowledge to put a number to the cost of moving to convert an existing “ worn out “ coal generation plant to the modern HELE plant. It should be far less expensive than either nuclear or the “ ruinables “ options.

        I would imagine it means new boilers, & ancillary equipment, re built turbines ( or new ).

        Power transmission lines are still in place, transport of fuel to plant would still be adequate,

        Any estimates?? Have anyone in government including Uniparty drones ever looked into this. NO! Thought not!!

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          Graham,

          They’re referred to as ‘brown field’ plants.

          And as you might have even guessed, they are commensurately cheaper than a new construction ‘green field’ plant.

          Even though it’s a complete new construction, it has the advantage of the transmission infrastructure in place, even though that also would need upgrading. The coal supply would also already be in place.

          Back in 2009, there were plans to build a new UltraSuperCritical (USC or HELE, same thing) four Unit plant alongside Bayswater, obviously to replace the aging Liddell plant, and also to add the same USC to the existing Mt. Piper plant.

          All the five plus years planning, assessments, paperwork, pre construction everything was already done in fact, and all that was needed was the final tick of approval and signatures, that’s how close it was.

          Then it was, umm, wait a minute, what’s this global warming caper everyone’s started talking about?

          Kibosh big time.

          At the time, I’d already started what it is I do, and I saw this and rejoiced, and saved everything, and how lucky was that, because no one ever believes me when I bring it up.

          That’s how close we were.

          Read all about it at this link. (the gas fired plant was included for comparison sake but the gas fired cost was way larger than the USC, mainly getting the gas from Queensland gas fields.) It’s a pdf document of 53 pages, just part of the original pdf document of almost 400 plus pages, and many sections with all the relevant details of approvals etc.

          I also saved the Mt. Piper link as well.

          We were that close.

          Tony.

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            Graham Richards

            Thanks for the information Tony. I’ll need some time to read it all.

            What I’ll ever be able to understand is why when all the prep investigation of the technology was approved these “ morons” in government, can’t see the wood for the trees. We could have been sailing along, free of huge debt, subsidies being paid to foreign companies etc, not to mention being able to maintain our economy whilst attracting even more investment.

            The moron label refers to both political parties. It would appear that being one is a prerequisite to being invited to join them!

            I’d also like to see this failure presented to the public. There is one media organisation that would assist with that unless ????

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    Ronin

    You would get a smart lawyer to read all the fine print if you were a farmer thinking about hosting a few windmills on your property.

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      wal1957

      If you were a smart farmer you would never host windmills on your property.

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      Dennis

      Even if a business minded farmer obtains legal advice and a lease with terms and conditions requiring removal of equipment and returning site to original condition there remains a risk and already this has been a problem including wind farms so called in the US, see “Born Lucky” story.

      As the 20-25 years end of working life approaches the holding company is stripped of funds and only has the worn out no longer assets on the books.

      The site is abandoned and there is no financially viable company asset owner to seek compensation from even by court order.

      Estimated removal of each wind turbine subject to location and access is $500,000 to $700,000 reported in 2024.

      https://stopthesethings.com/2017/03/13/born-lucky-stars-align-perfectly-for-pms-son-with-mammoth-bet-on-wind-power-outfit-infigen/

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    johnny Rotten

    Only six months ago at COP29, the UK set a “Shining Example” of 2035 targets — committing to an 81% reduction in emissions by 2035. Back then, just days after Trump was elected, Net Zero was goal for “growth” and a race to “get ahead”:

    And the next COP OUT as I call them now is to be held in Adelaise SA or Stooopid Australia. More Taxpayer and borrowed money being peed up the wall.

    beem me up Scottie.

    Next !!!

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    Neville

    The “renewables integrated system plan” is dead and Zoe Hilton shows why in this 9 minute video from the CIS. Here’s the link and the summary….
    Watch as Zoe hammers the 5 nails into the ISP coffin.
    Again, when will they sack the B O Bowen loony?

    ” Australia’s energy transition blueprint, the 2024 Integrated System Plan, is officially dead. The coroner’s report was provided by none other than the federal and state energy ministers. This report, which detailed the findings of the ministers’ ISP review, was kept hidden from the public for 10 months and only came to light during the recent Senate inquiry into energy planning. Watch the video to find out what the Review says about the biggest nails in the ISP’s coffin and whether there is any hope of resurrecting Australia’s energy transition plan

    https://www.cis.org.au/commentary/video/australias-renewable-energy-plan-is-dead/

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    OldOzzie

    International Energy Forum

    Monthly Oil & Gas Data Review – June 2025

    Summary findings from the latest JODI oil & gas databases update

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    Ross

    The Brits are bonkers and Net Zero is just all bollocks. But we Aussies are not much better. We’re all drongos for believing in man made climate change ( most of present company excepted ) and Net Zero is just bull dust.

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    RicDre

    “Tax ’em til they scream?”

    Or as Ronald Reagan said:

    If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.

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      Ronin

      A bit like the US Army, if it is stationary, paint it white, if it moves, salute it.

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        Lucky

        For the record
        Those of a certain age will recall:

        If it moves, remove it, if it doesn’t,
        whitewash it, if it talks, salute it.

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    Neville

    I still ask how will we pay off the 7 to 9 TRILLION $ debt to reach their net zero fantasy?
    This study and true cost is headed by Princeton University USA.
    + Melbourne University
    + Qld University and the Nous Group.

    Our GDP of 1.77 TRILLION $ is falling short every year and we will soon be a trillion $ in debt.
    Does anyone really think we could or should WASTE another 7 to 9 TRILLION $ and have a guaranteed net zero result?

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    OldOzzie

    Gullible Europe has signed the death warrant for its own car industry

    Despite flecks of optimism, the West has underestimated China’s long game

    The auto industry gathers for its annual summit on Tuesday, hosted by trade group the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT). But for some, the industry isn’t waving, but drowning.

    “I don’t see a way back,” reckons Nick Molden, chief executive of Emissions Analytics and an honorary senior research fellow at Imperial College. “It’ s now about the funeral and the wake”.

    The Government has made its mind up, he thinks – it’s not going to protect the UK auto industry from cheap Chinese auto imports, or abandon the all-electric dogma, and so the industry must deal with it.

    Around the country, the names of car dealerships are changing, as the Chinese wave begins to crash on to our shores. Chery’s Omoda only opened here in September last year, but will have 130 dealerships by the end of 2025, including the flagship Hogarth Roundabout site in Chiswick, formerly a Tesla showroom.

    Jaecoo, another Chery brand, only launched in January, and claims to have contracts for 80 showrooms by the end of the year, with plans to eventually have 130 in total. Get used to names like GMW (Great Wall Motors) which has 46, and more.

    The state has decreed what technology the consumer must use, and punishes producers for making anything else.

    It so happens to be a technology in which China has unbeatable cost advantages.

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      Ronin

      Now that is something I will never spend a cent on, a CCCP car, complete with listening devices and spyware.

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    Lance

    Starmer is engaging in “3 Card Monty”, “Shell Games”, and “Propaganda”, without addressing reality.

    Shifting the cost burden to hide the failure of the proximate cause, does not end the cost burden.

    Only the very naive and very stupid will swallow this BS.

    Propaganda: UK can switcheroo whatever it wants to create the illusion that Govt understands grid power and economics.

    Reality: UK is facing economic catastrophe and is desperately trying to fool the public long enough to escape responsibility.

    Actual Truth: UK is approaching Failed State status.

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    TdeF

    I have alway been amazed by the non science of “Nett Zero”.

    “net zero refers to the balance between the amount of greenhouse gas (GHG) that’s produced and the amount that’s removed from the atmosphere.”

    This is absolute nonsense.

    All CO2 is removed from the atmosphere. Very quickly. It is very soluble and the planet is covered in very deep water, 74% of it.

    And like H2O it also evaporates. And despite all the rain, snow, evaporation, sea levels are amazingly constant.
    These are in rapid dynamic equilibrium, like rain, snow and evaporation. Dynamic equilibrium is that the further you deviate, the faster it returns to the equilibrium value.

    CO2 levels across the world are the same within 1%. And no one lives in the bottom 40%, only 2%.

    And CO2 levels drift together in lockstep. Like water levels.

    98% of all CO2 is dissolved in the ocean. So 98% of all fossil fuel CO2 ends up in the ocean. There is no man made problem.

    We cannot change CO2 levels if we try, but the entire concept of Net Zero is that we can? How?

    ____________________________________________

    This is politician ignorant pretend legislated druid science, not real science.

    Finally NASA proved it was nonsense. Between 1988 and 2014 CO2 went up +14%. And the tree coverage went up 14%. So trillions of CO2 was sequestered in trees but CO2 was totally unaffected. More CO2 means more trees. More trees do not mean lower CO2. CO2 is in dynamic equilibrium set by forces which we do not control. I note that NASA has not updated this report to 2025. They wouldn’t dare.

    And of course we have known since 1958 that there is only 2.03% fossil fuel CO2 in the air.

    Reduction of atmospheric radiocarbon concentration by fossil fuel carbon dioxide and the mean life of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, G. J. Fergusson
    Slow steady changes in CO2 was not an issue until Al Gore said CO2 was our fault, our job. Like maintaining the Great Barrier reef is Australia’s job.

    And apparently sea level rise has also been our responsibility in Australia since 1988 as well. So much for the last ice age, which was someone’s fault as well.

    Absolute nonsense. How can politicians pass laws based on such voodoo science? Is it all about power and money? Or is that a silly question?

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    Dennis

    Meanwhile the Australian Labor Government searches for ways to increase existing taxes and legislate for new taxes ignoring economic prosperity reliant on free enterprise and free markets with minimal government interference.

    What are they going to do when the Golden Goose dies?

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      TdeF

      As I wrote yesterday, Australian taxes are now the second highest in the OECD. Behind Columbia. And the Safeguard Mechanism is just climbing up from 10% to 35%, 5% a year. But government business taxes are now double actual income tax. The same is happening at even the council level as they just keep spending and hiking rates to cover inflation and whatever else they want on a social agenda. Forget roads and parks. Our council has forbidden nuclear power and banned ICBMs.

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        Dennis

        It never seems to occur to politicians that profit shifting to lower tax countries by multinational corporations is tax minimisation, head office profit centre in a favourable tax nation and elsewhere as in Australia branch office/warehouse or whatever business centre locally.

        Competitive tax system attracts investment.

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          TdeF

          Which is why Ireland has the highest GDP/person in Europe. Apple moved their office to Ireland. And ” Ireland recorded a surplus of €23 billion last year, according to provisional figures from the Central Statistics Office (CSO).”

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      Ronin

      Keep choking on that goose, get both hands around its neck and really squeeze, then watch in total amazement when it gasps and dies, that’s where we are going.

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    Dennis

    During the past weekend I was involved in a conversation about motor vehicles and opinions on the not distant future as Labor impose tougher emissions standards and other measures to discourage sale of internal combustion engine vehicles.

    The conversation began when one person mentioned an interview on Sky News with a motoring journalist and Peta Credlin about electric vehicles poor sales record and issues, and the government penalising sales and owning internal combustion vehicles. Credlin commented that her six cylinder diesel SUV was due for replacement and six years old but when she inquired about a same brand replacement they now only offer a much lower capacity diesel or hybrid. She has decided to keep her existing model.

    A builder said that his now twelve year old ute fitted with racks and storage boxes have done less than 200,000 kms and he intends to have a suspension replacement and load capacity upgraded and does not want automatic transmission or small capacity diesel engine, so the running well and looks good ute will be kept for years to come. A second later model will also be kept.

    Others commented that they have similar intentions, maintaining vehicles they own now and keeping them. Often mentioned was driver assist technology that is annoying to drive with.

    And the many usual or common reasons why electric vehicles are not wanted and hybrids are a better choice but for work vehicles not.

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    Dennis

    First billions of dollars at oil refineries and for engine technology to remove lead from petrol and sulphur from diesel, then the offer to transition to natural and petroleum gas to fuel road transport, followed in more recent years by electric vehicles and hybrids.

    The amount of money worldwide that has been spent on this area of economies alone is enormous.

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    Dennis

    I researched Isuzu diesel engines that are common to their light vehicles and smaller trucks, Isuzu claim that when correctly maintained and treated sensibly the engine will achieve 500,000 kilometres or more.

    Their Utes and SUV have seperate chassis and therefore likely to last longer with suspension replacements as needed.

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      johnny Rotten

      My second hand HK Holden Station Wagon did over 200,000 miles with the same engine. A straight 6 cylinder. I drove from Canberra to Pert over Christmas 1978. And back again. No problems. It simply purred at 70 mph all day from sunrise to dawan.

      I got it for 1100 dollars.

      A top motor.

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        TdeF

        Holdens were built to be simple to repair with two spanners, to be very durable and in our dry climate without salt on the roads, they last. Nothing complex. And as far as I know, the light weight relatively small light and efficient utes and station wagons were special to Australia. Really converted sedans. Sheep or hay or kids or tools or drive in specials. Although I have seen station wagons in other forms, they were never as popular overseas where in Australia they were people movers. I do not count the current fashion in huge soft roaders.

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          johnny Rotten

          Bench seats as well. We slept in the back overnight at the side of the road. Cooked our bacon and eggs in the morning on the gas camper cooker. In the middle of nowhere. Paradise.

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        Ronin

        Can’t beat the old 186.

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          TdeF

          Agreed but the 202 was good as well. There was the Holden HD X2, Australia’s first 100mph car. With the suspension of a cart.

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            Ronin

            Power, 145bhp, brakes of a Vauxhall Viva, handling of a phonebox on castors.

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              TdeF

              But good in a straight line. Stopping and cornering were extras. At least disc brakes (optional) at last. Front only. 0-60 in 11 seconds.
              A Vauxhall viva had 1/3 of the power at 44 to 54HP but it was so light it managed 13 seconds.
              And by today’s standard the HD Holden was minimal so a very light car at 1177 kg, less than today’s lightest Toyota Corolla. (1240 to 1560kg)

              I don’t think anyone has thought through the energy costs of all the extras in today’s cars. Like a heater. windscreen washers. A radio. Carpets. An airconditioner. Power brakes. Power steering. … Even the cheapest car today is far more luxurious and heavier than most cars in the 1960s. Except the British ones which were amazingly heavy even as near bare metal.

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        johnny Rotten

        Apo[ogies for the typos. I have a new Laptop and it hasn’t got used to me yet. Lol.

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    Ed Zuiderwijk

    ‘A week is a longtime in politics’. Harold Wilson.

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    TdeF

    And in the press, where people are cheering a Trump created and announced truce between Israel and Iran, CNN and their ABC are saying it’s not true. Or at least they hope it’s not true. They don’t quote any sources.

    At least it means the price of petrol will not soar with the closing of the Straits of Hormuz, blocking 1/4 of the world’s oil supplies.

    It’s amazing there are two types of news. The news and the Anti Trump, globalist, net zero news.

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      TdeF

      And when I recall the great story of the ozone hole, it has vanished from the news entirely. Now that the globalists have their way and China controls the rare earths and the refrigerants, the ‘scientists’ say the ozone hole will go away in the fullness of time.

      So We should just blow up our power stations and ignore the 800 new coal power stations China is building. We alone will save China by being without power and helpless?

      Why is it nothing about Australia/UK Net Zero actually makes sense? No one bothers to explain how wrecking the UK and Australia will save the planet. The politicians are too busy with the legal sledgehammers to answer the question. Banning things is really hard work. Banning gas, gas stoves, coal, fracking, wood, exploration, mining, cow farts, sheep farts, termites.

      Net Zero will save the world. What China does is not our concern. Apparently. They are sacrificing themselves to supply our windmills and solar panels and transmission lines.

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      TdeF

      And Trump’s announcement which has not been acknowledged by Iran has another twist

      “the fact that Trump made his announcement when he did — that is, ahead of possible Security Council meetings that could consider draft ceasefire resolutions — Trump may have boxed Iran into ending the war.”

      It was the US which previously vetoed a cease-fire.

      Trump is playing at a much higher level than the TDR commentators at CNN and their ABC.

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    Strativarius

    All, or shall we say ~97%, of the green levies are on electricity. The idea is to take them off of electricity and put them on to gas instead… They need every penny they can get their grubby mits on.

    “Ministers are set to propose switching green levies from electricity to gas, in an effort to encourage the uptake of heat pumps.”
    https://www.current-news.co.uk/ministers-consider-shifting-green-levies-from-electricity-to-gas/

    23% of a UK electricity bill is green levies of one sort or another.

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      Moving the levies from one pocket to another …

      We peasants will still be bled dry to fuel the Monstrous Mr. Miliband’s dream of Eughteenth Century society in the UK. Is another facet of this ‘plan’ importing folk from countries which still have aspects of society in earlier centuries? Treatment of women …

      Duck Rule, again – if it looks, walks and quacks like a duck …

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    RoHa

    “Some British companies that survive as long as 2027, won’t have pay the net zero levies…”

    Misplaced comma. That should be

    “Some British companies that survive as long as 2027 won’t have pay the net zero levies”.

    No comma after a subject clause.

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