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The Rumor that this is One Awesome Sting Operation

This letter below from the Nye County Chairman of the Republican Party, Nevada, is circulating: a full prophesy of Trump’s Most Awesome Win Yet.

I post parts of it here in the spirit that this is:

  1. A great plot for a spy novel.
  2. The Christmas wish list of US Conservatives — the innate appeal of a surprise sucker punch to the corruptocrats is exactly what honest people want to hear. That doesn’t make it true. But it is interesting to discuss nonetheless.
  3. Maybe a complicated fake story designed to fool Trump fans. A sting about a sting. Perhaps someone wants conservatives to do nothing while they wait “For The Great Rescue”, or to fuel anger later.
  4. Possibly a fake story leaked by the Good Guys to scare some confessions or panicked reactions out of some real people.

Any which way, it’s a springboard for speculation about why it is or isn’t likely. If Trump is going to pull this blockbuster feat off, it will have to be in the next few days surely? The true story may be that some of this is real, but the clock may run out.  If Lt General McInerney (below) is right, they have Pelosi’s laptop to analyze, which he points out, is making her frantic. If the Italian Affadavit is solid, there must be international evidence to collect.

Meanwhile Pelosi and co are painting Trump as the insurrectionist attempting a coup while they try to oust the current President of the United States.

Themes similar to this (below) have been circulating for two months. The implacable confidence is beguiling. It seems there’s always Hopium on the horizon. At least until Jan 21. (h/t David. Charles. Meglort. Henning  Neilson).

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Part I: a letter from a Republican Party Nye county chairman, yesterday.

Let me be clear: Trump will be president for another four years. Biden will not be president. Yes, I know those are shocking words in these crazy days.
I have been approached by many saying, “It’s over…” and “Trump conceded the election…”. Nothing of the sort has taken place. Go back and listen to the videos all the way through. At no point does Trump even mention Biden’s name. At no point does he say he concedes. He does say that there will be a peaceful transition to a new administration and he does say that this is only the beginning. Those phrases are important to note. Indeed, we will have a new administration made up of a new vice president and cabinet as the current ones have all made their treason complete. I will touch on this in more detail shortly.
We do well to remember that for more than four years Donald Trump has been five steps ahead of everyone in every attempt to derail him, impeach him, or confound him. For example, he announced on election night in the early hours of the morning that he “didn’t want a dump of ballots at 4AM.” What happened in just a few short hours at almost exactly 4AM? A huge ballot dump took place which showed that he already knew that it was going to take place. That was a public word to the enemies of our country that he was on to them.
I say all this as only two examples out of many that at no point has our president been in a fight of desperation.
Now you may ask, “Why hasn’t Trump arrested anyone yet? Why did this have to go all the way to Congress?” Multiple reasons: first, Trump has been adamant in following the rule of law and the Constitution. He gives everyone, no matter how dirty, an opportunity to do the right thing (sometimes with warnings such as the phone call with the Georgia Secretary of State recently). He pushed cases through the courts, he presented evidence to the legislatures, and he even told the vice president to do the right thing. But with the betrayal by Pence and Congress, the treason is now complete and nobody can say that Trump did not allow the process to finish before acting. Second, in order to drain the swamp you have to know who are the swamp creatures. They can blend in very well with the crowds. But the false event in the capitol revealed the final traitors for who they were regardless of party affiliation. Trump flushed them out of hiding.
So, what comes next? I don’t have the particulars but I can give you milestones to watch for as the coming days unfold:
  1. Expect the emergency broadcast system to be activated. The FCC just recently released a memorandum speaking to the requirements under Federal law to send messages from the president to the public. See this link
  2. Expect confusion. We are in a battle for our republic against elites that are attempting the very coup that they are accusing Trump of doing. In battle, there will be disinformation but know that plans are being fulfilled.
  3. Expect high profile arrests to take place over the next 12 days and at any time. You may wake one morning to find someone in high office is no longer there.
  4. Expect this to be a bumpy ride to the very end. This is not a television show where things are resolved in 45 minutes.
  5. Expect more bombshell evidence to be released between now and Jan. 20th.
  6. Expect some sort of internet blackout or outage: Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and Gmail are likely going to be affected. If you don’t have alternate forms of communication established now, it would be a good idea to start forming them even if it’s just checking on your nextdoor neighbors.
  7. Expect Trump to be inaugurated on Jan 20th!
  8. Expect the executive order from 2018 and/or the Insurrection Act to be enacted. This DOES NOT mean martial law. Remember that we have been under a state of emergency since 2018 which gives the president many powers to act.

The next 12 days will be something to tell the grandchildren! It’s 1776 all over again!

There’s more at the link…
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Part II, Thomas McInerney,* retired 3-Star General was recorded at the White House. He says that some white hats (good guys) got Nancy Pelosi’s laptop during the breach of the Capitol on Wednesday. He says she’s frantic, and this is why she’s pushing to impeach Trump.

Wow. “The Vice President has committed treason.”


Link: https://www.bitchute.com/video/edKPo5DkAitM/

This refers to the Executive order 13848 — the one that was set up two years ago, to deal with the event of foreign interference in the US Election. He also mentions Hammer and Scorecard, the software and electronic equipment designed originally by the CIA to interfere in … foreign elections. But now in a case of bad karma, the decendants of which are being used to interfere in the US election.

 

Part III: there are several variations of claims about how the votes were being manipulated from Italy.

Better than a James Bond movie.

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*Thomas G. McInerney is a retired United States Air Force Lieutenant General, a command pilot with more than 4,100 flying hours in 407 combat missions during the Vietnam War. He served in NATO, and in the Pacific Air Forces and as commander of the 11th Air Force in Alaska.  He was awarded the Defense Superior Service Medal, Distinguished Service Medal, Legion of Merit, etc.

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309 comments to The Rumor that this is One Awesome Sting Operation

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    tonyb

    [Off Topic]AD

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      NoFixedAddress

      to all intents and purposes America, like the rest of the West, is now behind enemy lines.

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      Peter Fitzroy

      [Off Topic]AD

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        Hanrahan

        Fitz, you are obviously unhappy here. Why torture yourself?

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          Peter Fitzroy

          Hanrahan – I just don’t like it when the first comment on a post is so far off topic, like tonyb’s was. I figured that an over the top post would attract the mods, and it did

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            tonyb

            Peter

            I thought I was being satirical with my comment, in as much there is the ‘real world’ hence my reference to current cold weather in the UK (normally right on topic for this blog) and there is not the real world represented ( I believe) by this article, which is quite extraordinary .

            Had the conversation developed, I had expected that someone would say that this article does represent the real world and the discussion, amongst many red thumbs, could have developed from there.

            However my intention was obviously thought off topic and was deleted, which is fair enough.

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      John R Smith

      Well,
      we’ve shut down the entire World Economy over a bug that produces no symptoms in 80% of people infected and a survivability rate of a severe seasonal flu (if we ever get real numbers).
      We are told a 77 year old man that was in last place during primaries and barely campaigned got more votes than any Presidential candidate in history.
      We are teaching children that gender is a ‘social construct’.
      We are arresting people for too many relatives in their homes for Christmas.
      Journalists describe ‘peaceful protests’ as buildings burn behind them on TV.
      Police are portrayed as criminals as criminals are portrayed as martyrs.
      A political class the calls for revolution and then claims the world is ending if the unwashed overrun the Capitol.
      Not to mention the ridiculous garbage we’ve been force fed for years over ‘climate change’.
      Where is this real world of which you speak?

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        tonyb

        John

        Its difficult to disagree with your comment. WE have entered Real Alice in Wonderland territory this last year but there is still normality out there.

        “If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn’t. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn’t be”.

        I think 2021 will see climate change return with a vengeance as the powers that be see how easily people can be persuaded to surrender their liberties in the face of a perceived out of the ordinary threat.

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          John R Smith

          Is this the Tonyb that was researching Mathew Paris?
          If so, I have admired what I know of you greatly from afar and am loathe to disagree with you about anything.

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            tonyb

            John

            Yes, I write a lot about historical matters as they relate to climate. Don’t worry about disagreeing as I agreed with your response but my original comment was taken a little out of context in as much it never developed to discuss the ins and outs of the article as I had expected.

            We are certainly in an Alice in Wonderland world at present and it doesn’t look as if thing will revert to ‘normal’ any time soon.

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      Simon

      The political landscape has changed radically since Jan 6th. Pence heard protesters calling for his hanging as he was lead away by his security detail and he is seriously hacked off.
      Impeachment is worthwhile even if it takes weeks to implement because Trump loses the ability to run again, taxpayer funded perks, and his security detail.
      A 2/3 Senate majority is required, which just might be possible as there are a lot of seriously annoyed Republicans who see Trump as a massive liability. He has lost the presidency and both houses.
      A coup is not going to happen. Security will be massive coming up to Inauguration Day. Pence will invoke the 25th if If Trump tries anything over the next 2 weeks.

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    sophocles

    The Insurrection Act has been signed.

    General Flynn will most probably (as in will be) Vice President in place of Pence.

    The Italian Prime Minister and a high Italian military officer have been arrested. (General Graziano?) (for shenanigans on or around Jan 6th and even before. I think it relates to the election shenanigans. … let me know if you find out. ) The brown stuff is really hitting the rotating blades in Italy,

    My source said “Biden will be arrested” — not sure if this is just Hunter or Hunter and Daddy. I’m optimistic it’s both … but it’s most likely to be Hunter.

    It’s my guess Barak Obama is living on borrowed time. Gitmo awaits over a small matter of USD400Mil
    he took with him on his way out.

    and the good news is:
    China is really P-ed off with Trump/the US.
    1.They were about to buy an American jet engine manufacturer (General Electric?) and the deal was to go through in Pakistan last night. Oh dear: over 40% of Pakistan had a massive power cut. Great.

    2. All US sanctions against Taiwan have been removed. I guess the CCP leader will be spitting very large nails. Good stuff.

    Source: simonparkes.com

    So, Fitz. Trump has conceded? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
    No evidence for voting fraud?

    … you do get it so wrong, don’t you? (More raucous laughter).

    You need (<<– Operative words!) to watch both the videos Jo has posted.

    You don't need to apologise, because I know you won't mean it.

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      sophocles

      It was military intelligence operatives who had infiltrated Antifa and who made the computer heists from the Capitol invasion. Pelosi’s one was not wasted.

      It explains why she is looking more the harridan lately.

      She has plenty to be frightened of.

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      sophocles

      I’m going to sit back and get comfortable.

      The time between now and the transfer of power from Trump to Trump is going to be very entertaining and interesting.

      Popcorn supplies and tea are in good supply … 😀

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        MP

        Enjoy your popcorn and here is some light entertainment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk0OGDKniaI
        This fellow watches the military air traffic, some interesting events seem to be taking place.

        What’s true and what’s not nowadays

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          Klem

          That is a very interesting video, thanks MP.

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            OriginalSteve

            Patriot groups in the US no doubt will be locked and loaded….

            Im just imagining Antifa being stupid and taking on the specialnops guys…ut will be a short fight….still, you cant reason with lunatics…kind of a self limiting Darwin award.

            That said, if the swamp set off a nuke or dirty bombs in US cities, there will be no restraint exercised by patriots at yhat point I suspect…..

            I am not in any way advocating or condoning violence.

            I do think 75 milion seriously ticked off Americans are quite a force to be rrckoned with. If China are stupid enough to send PLA troops in, the Americans will just pile up the PLA bodies for the birds to eat, and leave them.

            Interesting times…..

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          Serp

          Insurrection Act has been signed and POTUS exfiltrated east, but the flight data would be an artefact so who knows which way. This is bonzer stuff.

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        Henning Nielsen

        Sopho; nice expression; From Trump to Trump.

        There’s many a hump
        between Trump and Trump.
        Barriers to jump
        and foes to thump
        and Demos to dump,
        to finally drain the sump.

        “Sump” is Norwegian for swamp ;.)

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      Kim

      Taiwan has a series of islands just off the coast of China. When China invades them what will the Biden-Harris administration do? That will be the most crucial and most critical decision that they will make. My prediction is at the United States will acquiesce. The question at that point will be whether a merger or an acquisition has occurred – whether USA inc has merged with the CCP or whether the CCP has acquired the USA – made it a client state, a subsidiary of China. ie courtesy of the Biden-Harris administration the USA has been cuckholded by China.

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      TimiBoy

      Simon Parkes seems sensible. I wonder, have you seen his advertising? “Send me £100 and I’ll exorcise the Jinn from you. Or buy my 5G protection device…”

      I hate the Dems, but why does the guy who seems to have the answers we want wear a tinfoil hat?

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    Scissor

    Do you believe in the power of prayer?

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    ImranCan

    The biggest reason I doubt what you write, is that you are writing it. How likely is it that a plot like this, which hasn’t started yet, gets a full preview on Jo Nova’s climate change blog ? No disrespect intended.

    As much as I wish it would be true, because I see the hammer of left wing authoritarianism in full action with almost nothing left to stop it, I just don’t believe this. I hope I’m wrong.

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      PeterS

      I have the same sort of view but I’m standing aside waiting to see what happens in the days leading up to Jan 20. All will be revealed one way or the other very soon.

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        Mike Jonas

        Deadline after deadline has passed, without action. Well, not quite without action – there have been attempts at court action but not it seems addressing the main issues. The hope continues that Donald Trump has something up his sleeve, a knockout blow waiting for the right moment. All the evidence suggests to me that he does not, and that he has been outplayed. I would like to be wrong, but Donald Trump has been almost a lone player up against the whole establishment (and that includes most of his own party). He seems to be too disorganised to be able to counter it, but it could well have been too much for anyone to counter no matter how well organised they were.

        Suppression of free speech has just gone up a few notches, and the immediate future is looking very dangerous. People say some unbelievably stupid things, but that is no reason to suppress them. If something is unbelievable then simply allowing them to say it and allowing others to reply is sufficient to get most people not believing it. Stop incitement to violence, definitely (read what Donald Trump said, there is no incitement to violence, Nancy Pelosi has been a lot closer to it than Donald Trump), but allow everyone to speak and to reply.

        Will the remaining forums where climate science and politics can still be discussed also be closed down?

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          TimiBoy

          Agreed. With the constant “putting off” I’ve (part of me anyway) arrived at the conclusion that it’s over. I’m waiting for the 20th, and taking everything I hear with a large amount of salt.

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          PeterPetrum

          You may be absolutely correct. However, Trump putting off action may have been his waiting to see if every legal and constitutional avenue has been tried and progressed without the result he feels he is due. We have now reached that point. Nothing may happen now, or it may. We will know soon enough.

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          Mike

          Sound point of view. I’d like to think the exec establishment were to be exposed but can’t seem to see how the diminished Trump camp can pull off such a feat.

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      sophocles

      Oh ye of so little faith:

      Just move away from the centre of the road.

      It’s safer.

      The military convoys won’t stop and wait for you to shamble out of the way.

      The plot was brought forward. It’s always best to hit your enemies while they think you are still preparing.

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        PeterS

        I rather by a long distance away from the road in case jets fly over and bomb the sh.. out of it.

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          Susan Fraser

          The voice of calm sure knowledge from Lieutenant General Thomas McInerney reassures and informs us.
          Really good to see.

          Loved! Seal Team 6 etc Video.
          Hope its true. Couldn’t get who is telling the story tho…

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      David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

      Morning IC,
      I think, as well as being insulting to her, you are underestimating our Jo.
      I’ll make just two points:

      1. In seeing the US election as being a watershed for freedom speech amongst other things, she is being consistent with, for example, her support for Professor Peter Ridd. And she’s demonstrated her own respect for that concept by allowing the dissemination of the evidence of manipulation of this election against the will and laws of the USA.
      2. I see a connection between the propaganda techniques of the climate change lobby and those of the anti-Trump brigade, to make it apparent the first was a pre-cursor to the latter. And the US notice of withdrawal from the Paris Agreement matures on the same day as the next inauguration. Interesting.

      Also, I reckon she’s recognised that the result is significant to all the peoples of the world.
      I remain worried, but hopeful.

      Thank you Jo for providing this forum, without which I would have been clueless and merely indoctrinated by the MSM.
      Cheers
      Dave B

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        TimiBoy

        Seconded.

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          Annie

          Thirded…

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            Dennis

            Me too, thank you Jo, your perseverance is very much appreciated.

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              PeterPetrum

              Add me into that list. Thanks Jo for your perseverance and diligence in finding this information. You have put in sufficient caveats, I feel, to avoid any accusation of you being a conspiracy theorist. We can all come to our own conclusions based on the information provided. And hope springs eternal.

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        Fifth allowing for moderation.

        I agree with poster its all of a piece set and fits in with JO’s overarching anti CAGW stance. Nothing so far has worked for Team Trump but the EO and preliminaries do exist.

        The supreme Court behaviours surprised me, the rest not so much. His non attendance at the inauguration means exactly what it is meant to.

        If he is going to pull the trigger, this weekend would be the time to do it and also explains the wild eyed behaviour of Pelosi et al nothing else fits or makes sense, impeachment is dumb and has no time for action.

        The problem for Pelosi et al is that they are not the CIC and their first impeachment to work should have been the first time, not the 11th hour with POTUS and the US in general with nothing left to lose. The Fraud was real, the Biden stuff has not been investigated but swept under the carpet.

        I am making no prediction here just an observation, that is that if he is going to pull the trigger this is when it must happen after trying all lawful responsible remedies.

        The military have been awful quiet barring some yesterday’s heroes.

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          Chris

          John , There have been photos circulating of Justice Roberts with his mate Bill Clinton and Gishane Maxwell on Epstein island. It makes for unpleasant and conspiratorial thoughts……regarding the Supreme Court.

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        Sorry, I clicked thumbs down when meant up. My tiny iPhone screen was the culprit!

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        ImranCan

        David – in no way whatsoever was I being insulting. I specifically stated “no disrespect intended”. Words mean something and I meant exactly what I said. I think Jo is amazing and does amazing things. But I am sure she would be the first to support the right and the importance of being skeptical. That’s all I was being – skeptical.

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    Yonniestone

    To quote Newton, For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction, the forces Trump is up against require this and then some, this is and always was the only option to overcome such evil.

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    PeterS

    Is this guy in the video below believable? He’s giving out some detail of what’s going to happen.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzheebPuCGU

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      sophocles

      Yes. Simon Parkes is reliable. He has been since I’ve been listening to him.
      He’s very careful to only give out what he’s permitted to.

      The second video Jo has posted is a must see. It’s all about
      The Evidence.

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      Hanrahan

      $5.4 bill is a generous offer for GE, financially they are a mess as I recall but it could never happen. China’s Achilles heel on defence is their jet engines. They reverse engineer Russian ones but not very successfully.

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        Henning Nielsen

        So I’ve read also. Their new fighter jet looks very mcuh like an F-35 (great that Australia are getting so many of them),but they lack peak performance.

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      TimiBoy

      His videos are good, they seem well researched. Who knows?

      He also does exorcisms…

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    Harry Passfield

    If Trump pulls this off I am so glad we’re in lockdown: we shall be spared the gore of all the exploding heads that will inevitably follow. Personally, West-coast heads count double in my tally.

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      sophocles

      Apparently California is under the miltary’s control.

      That doesn’t surprise me.
      It’s rather close to the Chinese troops over the border in Canada.
      And China may just get silly …

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    WokeBuster

    Is Trump going to perform a citizen arrest of Biden and Pelosi? Can’t see it happening myself. He would be better advised spending his remaining days pardoning and preparing dirt files for declassification.

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      sophocles

      Why?

      You’re not awake: Pelosi is no longer needed, Trump’s people have her computer.

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        WokeBuster

        What people? The FBI, CIA, DOJ, Courts, MSM, Tech oligarchs, high brass in the military are all working against Trump. If Trump had any power or control Biden would be history after the revelations in his son’s laptop. Instead he’s now going to be inaugurated as president after a fraudulent election. What makes you think the contents of Pelosi’s laptop will be any less ignored? Also how do we know the laptop’s in Trump’s hands anyway? It could well be in the possession of ANTIFA ready for use later when the purge of moderate Democrats begins under Kamala.

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          Fred

          Actually nothing could happen until the “crime” had been committed. So Trump had to hold back until that happened. The last crimes to be committed were the crime of treason for knowingly certifying false electoral votes by the members of Congress and the Senate followed by the big tech censorship. Under the EO he signed in September 18 he can now confiscate all of the big techs assets as they have aided in the foreign interference of US elections. The last thing I do believe he has done is sign the Insurrection Act into force. That was what the invasion of Capitol Hill was all about. That allowed Trump to utter the words around going home peacefully. That was a requirement under the Act. That act puts the US under military control under the president. If all that I have seen holds true (Q is real BTW) there are going to be a lot of arrests and military trials for treason going to happen over the next days and weeks including Joe and Hunter Biden,

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        Ted O'Brien.

        Who has the right to investigate Pelosi’s computer after being involved in its theft?

        If it was stolen by a mob, its current contents should not be admissible. From her position, it shouldn’t even be hackable.

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          I share that concern. Trumps phone call to the Georgia official was illegally taped – but is still being used apparently. But I would hope that there was some legal condition under EO13848 or something that justified obtaining the laptop, but I have not seen any claim that it was either.

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          WendyB

          Pelosi’s laptop would be government property and as such can be called in at any time……just like with any corporation.

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            Serp

            An initial report said that it was sitting on the desk logged in and unlocked. Who knows Nancy may have had that annoying auto lock disabled, as one does…

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              Ted O'Brien.

              If it was logged on and unlocked then that is Nancy’s “sting”, a trap.

              It’s very unlikely her regular computer.

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    Scissor

    PeterS, the Simon Parkes video is not more credible than the Maria Zack video. To me, both have elements of crazy talk that just don’t make sense. For instance, the details of acquisition of GE or some park of GE by China seems to be ignorant of and not consistent with regulatory approval processes.

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      PeterS

      Conspiracy theories are running wild right now. I’m just sitting back and waiting for Jan 20. They can’t have two Presidents running the nation at the same time.

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        Scissor

        Me too. We’ll definitely know what is to happen shortly, unless Nancy decides to use the codes she wrestled away from President Trump.

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          PeterS

          If she does anything stupid like that I’m almost certain that Trump would have her arrested for treason. That’s why I would love to see her make good her threats of impeaching him before Jan 20. She’d be risking being locked up.

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            Henning Nielsen

            I doubt that Pelosi has the codes, that is the priviledge of POTUS, and an officer would be in very big trouble handing them over and Trump is POTUS.

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        Forrest Gardener

        Two presidents claiming to be the legitimate ruler is pretty standard in coups isn’t it?

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        Karabar

        There were two presidents in eaarly 1861.Lincoln and Jefferson Davis. Then what happened?

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    LisaGinNZ

    What is more likely?

    President Trump has enough support (after 4 years of strongly supporting all USA military branches, LEOs): he and his new administration completes a full switt “clean up on aisle 5” and prevents the illegal coup.

    -or-

    President Trump does not have enough support, nothing happens and Jan 20th the illegal CCP funded communist take over of USA occurs.

    My $$$ is still on Trump…

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      sophocles

      Good place to put it.

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      Tim

      I’m looking for a bookie, anywhere, who will take a bet on Trump. None, nada,zilch…I might live in hope and prayer, but it looks too late for any supersting or magic plan to work.

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      Furiously curious

      Trump has lots of military support? Dunno. He has spent 4 years pulling out of wars, making the upper echelons of the Military/Industrial complex rather unhappy. There are now at least 2 generations of brainwashed young people filling the lower ranks. Good luck.

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        David Maddison

        Military expenditure and respect is up under President Trump. They like him and support him.

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        Chrism

        Elsewhere in the US military service persons voted predominately about 70:30 for DJT : In the battleground states their vote was recorded in high 90’s% for Biden
        Seems to me unlikely
        Seems to me that he is loved by service people & loves them
        Seems to me he issued the EO in 2018 for a reason & the reason was electoral fraud & has had the deep spooks looking at people on both sides of the aisle since then
        The Italy drama has a number of sources
        The MSM has a track record of not presenting all the evidence
        I think the clocks are ticking
        I think that the Congress raid was a covert op to gather evidence to prove complicity and insurrection

        But in the fog of war we aren’t shown much

        Why was the carrier group called back from Iran when they (Iran) are being more dickish than usual?

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    John Robertson

    Such a rumour has power.
    For some reason the Democrats and all their minions are frantic with fear.
    The agiprop is insane.
    The Media and Tech Lords have stepped forward,showing all their contempt.
    The talking heads are beside themselves over the “Capitol Riot”,yet are still strangely silent over the months of Burn Loot Murder.
    Yet only they hold the high moral ground,after a summer spent claiming “Mostly Peaceful Protests” over the deaths of career criminals..Fake Newz at their finest.

    The concept of a Grand Trump Finale,that the man and the patriots who love their country,might have foreseen this fiasco and prepared accordingly,is very appealing and fits my read of Donald Trump.

    So the next few days will be very interesting.
    Now should these be nothing but noise, 2018 Executive Order,that it was just a bluff.
    All just political posturing.

    The fear of the parasitic horde is obvious.
    Why?
    If they are secure in their belief that they won the election fair and square,none of this madness would be happening.

    And should they succeed in silencing Trump and all those around him,they will have real reason to fear.
    Patriots have tried to explain reality to the fools and bandits for years,”Trump is all that stands between us”.
    So the power hungry focus on Trump,ignoring that warning.

    So,so far every indication is that the Nov 3 election was a trap.
    One those easily defined as the Enemies Within have stepped into and may now be realizing that.

    For as far as making a great show goes,the stage is fully set.

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    Harry Passfield

    I keep thinking ..whatever happened to Robespierre? Or Cromwell, come to that.
    Biden will be a lame-duck President, if he gets to the Oval Office. And, if he does, he will regret his reliance on the CCP – not that he will survive to realise it (not sure he realises the present!)

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    NoticingTheOptics

    Is that really the WH in the background of the McInerney interview?
    If so, that he would even be there is already quite significant [snip ad hom]

    [Shame you had to toss in your character attack there… – J]

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    Peter Fitzroy

    This sounds more like the first steps to a civil war, than anything else posted on this blog. You have the main ingredients, spiralling around an inability to find common ground, and the 2 camps are evenly matched for numbers and resources. And as many have posted here it will all be down to the armed forces (all of them, including the National guard, and the police).

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      el gordo

      Settle down, nothing is going to happen now that Trump has been silenced on Twitter. The viewpoint of the Establishment is that Donald is a demagogue who needs to be restrained because he is upsetting the body politic and causing social unrest.

      When the new president sits in the big chair we can be assured that Joe will have a strong supportive team around him.

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        Peter Fitzroy

        El gordo – i’m listening to my daughter, who is in Pennsylvania, and what is posted here is not as far fetched as you would think. For that reason, I’m nervous, if my daughter wasn’t there, I would not have a care

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          el gordo

          Rest assured the hard right couldn’t organise a raffle.

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          Analitik

          So are you saying that there is actually some substance to this article, Peter Fitzroy?
          That’s extraordinary and I’m not being at all facetious or derogatory.

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            Peter Fitzroy

            That is what I’m hearing, mind you, as el gordo notes, talk is cheap.

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              Ted O'Brien.

              At this “riot”, did Trump isolate Antifa/whoever? It seemed to me that he may have tried to.

              This riot should go down in history as the one where the villains got lumbered.

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        Chrism

        let’s hope that the team includes geriatricians with expertise in dementia & meds to manage that

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          el gordo

          How did they manage Ronald Regan?

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            Sceptical Sam

            They didn’t.

            He managed them.

            And, the world is a better place because he did so, successfully.

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            Hanrahan

            Nancy managed him at the end but don’t underestimate what he had already done. And don’t underestimate Dr Jill who, I have no doubt, intends being Nancy Mk II but from the start not the end.

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            GD

            How did they manage Ronald Regan?

            That was at the end of Reagan’s eight-year term. Biden is starting his first term already showing the effects of dementia

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    Eben

    Somebody’s imagination is running amok

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    Binny Pegler

    Sigh…yeah,yeah.
    I’m still listening but you’re trying my patience.
    Real world politics tends to be more ‘bumbling mess’ than ‘grand plan’
    Both sides are ‘Staggering and floundering in distress, like broken winded horses’
    The system is set to paper over the cracks, and try a proper fix later.
    The Dems vindictive fixation on Trump is pouring fuel on the flames.
    However at this point they have the media (or perhaps more to the point the media has them) and the momentum.
    But I’m not discounting their ability to snatch long term defeat from the jaws of victory.
    A second impeachment will surpass Hillary’s ‘Deplorables’

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    Brendan H

    1. ‘A great plot for a spy novel.’

    You got it in one Jo. Your other options merely flesh out the details of the plot. And that could be the problem: for the past couple of months the Trumpists have been acting out their own versions of the spy narrative. I blame Robert Ludlum.

    Barring accidents, Jo Biden will be sworn in as president of the United States on January 20. Donald Trump will no doubt fume and bluster, but it will be just puffs of air.

    For years we’ve been hearing about the very stable genius who is three steps ahead of the opposition. We now hear that he has a Plan that will entrap his enemies and publicly expose their perfidy for all to see.

    And therein lies another problem for the Trumpists: come January 21, how to backtrack and explain why the 4D chess player failed to execute The Plan.

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      Orson

      Brendan — about Trump, you have apparently missed a very teachable moment post-second Presidential debate.

      Trump was being interviewed in some group, it seemed. People were wondering at his second Act control versus the anger on dispkayin the first one.

      Clearly he can turn “on” or “off”, as needs be.

      Trump said some people like this way, others like it [his performance] better the first way. And polls showed that certain demographics were indeed more impressed by is macho and bravado, like Hispanics (I forget the other demos, oh, working class folks).

      So Trump actually is more of a calculated performance artist than many, many ever give him credit for being.

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        Brendan H

        Orson: ‘So Trump actually is more of a calculated performance artist than many, many ever give him credit for being.’

        We can certainly agree that he is a performance artist. But that character trait tends towards making compulsive decisions, which don’t always pan out because the best-laid plans can easily go wrong.

        This is an important lesson from the Capitol riots – Trump lost control of his audience. His subsequent back-and-forward messaging just confirms this loss.

        His own lack of control is reflected in his surroundings. There are going to be some interesting books written about the last days of the Trump administration.

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    M Seward

    Gosh, this latest iteration of Trumpland remainds me of the alarmist drivel spouted by all those alarmist Great Barrier Reef ‘scientists’ who see some muddy water on the Queensland coast and predict a TIPPING POINT or CATASTROPHIC COLLAPSE of the GBR due to farming/mining.dredging/any human activity.

    Is this really the level of the [snip inflammatory] that Trump has created?

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    Mack

    I worry for the safety of Donald Trump after this corrupt, senile geriatric is issued in as leader of the “free world”. They can, after all, murder somebody inside jail,(Epstein) to stop him squealing.
    They want Trump dead.

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      Hanrahan

      JFK was naive, Trump not so much. As a billionaire he was responsible for his own security long before taking up office. I’m sure he has his own men keeping his security detail on their toes.

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        Dennis

        I recall media reports in 2016/17 that POTUS Trump wanted to use his own Boeing 757 executive jet as Air Force One.

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    Yarpos

    I will wait for the movie. I suspect Nancys laptop (if real) will get the same treatment as Hilarys’ server and Hunters laptop and the Epstein cctv video etc.

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      Lucky

      US law is strong on not using illegally gained evidence, but possessing such evidence may be sufficient to follow up for more evidence, and for public release.

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    David Maddison

    Is there a name for this? When your expectations are constantly elevated and then are cruelly failed to be fulfilled? This has what’s constantly happened with this whole tragic affair.

    All of the above is good but the fatal flaw is that it simply does not matter if it is 100% true, the courts, politicians and other authorities will do nothing.

    It is important however that President Trump avoids being impeached on false claims as this will prevent him running in 2024 assuming the US ever has elections again.

    Sadly, I think there is a 99.95% chance that the President Defect Biden and his controller and soon-to-be-replacement will be illegally appointed President and VP in a few days. It has been a successful coup d’état by the Left, something once thought to be impossible in this greatest of democracies.

    Presumably the imposters will be sworn in on The Necronomicon or some similarly dark book rather than the Judeo-Christian Bible. Even so, I wonder if Biden’s short term memory is functional enough to remember the several words he has to say when asked to repeat the oath.

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      [SNIP petty insults]

      Biden IS a Christian, he quoted from the Bible in his victory speech (yes, David, he Won the Election, Fair and Square!!!) – he quoted from Ecclesiastes: “The Bible tells us that to everything there is a season – a time to build, a time to reap, a time to sow. And a time to heal. This is the time to heal in America.”

      And I am sure, unlike Trump, he doesn’t need anyone checking to make sure he’s holding it right-way up before the cameras roll:
      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/02/trump-washington-walk-to-the-church-photo-op

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      [SNIP Off topic admin complaints, duplicate content, whinges, and baiting insults from a person who isn’t meeting basic commenting rules, can’t snip himself and yet expects to be able to freely vandalize the conversation. – jo]

      And I am sure, unlike Trump, he doesn’t need anyone checking to make sure he’s holding it right-way up before the cameras roll:
      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/02/trump-washington-walk-to-the-church-photo-op

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      Alice Thermopolis

      DM: “It is important however that President Trump avoids being impeached on false claims as this will prevent him running in 2024 assuming the US ever has elections again.”

      Agreed. I don’t know how much, but there could be a lot of “political theatre” – for the MSM and Trump-haters – in Pelosi’s determination to impeach the President today US time.

      Whatever the case, it sure exposes Biden’s ‘time for healing” rhetoric as a sham.

      It is likely to be, as one Shakespeare character put it, “full of sound and fury, signifying nothing”.

      Actually, it does signify something, an attempt to dump the Democratic party’s complicity in a fraudulent election onto Trump.

      Yesterday Dominion Voting Systems announced a $1+ billion defamation action against Powell just days after the Congress Electoral College. Watch this space.

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        Louise

        A billion +. That’s an awful lot. Well, at least the evidence will be heard in an actual court, which is what Sydney Powell wanted. Up until now courts just not willing to be involved and have dismissed on process/technicalities and not allowed evidence to even be presented.

        She comes across as knowing her stuff and she did take on the deep state swamp for Flynn, getting the DOJ to drop the case. She would have known they would try to shut her up and intimidate with big guns lawyers and huge sum.

        Would expect her to bring in that military cyber security guy who testified at both Pennsylvania and Georgia state legislature hearings. Plus the Pulitzer guy who did the live hack of Dominion in front of the Arizona state legislature. That alone showed that the Dominion CEO lied saying saying machines weren’t connected to internet (therefore hackable).

        All three of these states subsequently wanted to withdraw their slate of electors (too late I might add) that had been sent to Washington. And Pence should have sent back to state legislators for clarification as he had been requested/briefed to do by Professor Eastman, Trump’s constitutional lawyer.

        If she wins on evidence, Dominion are in a world of deep doo doo and Biden therefore illegitimate. Not that I have a whole lot of faith in the judiciary anymore to not be political. Sadly.

        But then what happens, even if she wins and shows the manipulated votes etc? By the time it works through the courts Biden/Harris could be almost finished their first term as POTUS.

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      gullibility
      /ɡʌləˈbɪləti/
      noun
      noun: gullibility

      When your expectations are constantly elevated and then are cruelly failed to be fulfilled?

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    RossP

    The title of the new chapter in the saga is –“Has the Pope been arrested ?”

    I have seem several references to this, this morning. Here is one with the author not totally convinced but thinks there is a possibility and strongly suggests a wait and see approach.

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2021/01/il-papa-arrestato.html

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      Alex

      According to people in the know inside the Vatican its fake news. But there was a blackout. Meanwhile the EU was on the verge of a total blackout about that time, but managed to avert it.

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        Louise

        What caused the almost total blackout? It wouldn’t be messed up energy infrastructure thanks to absurd climate fixation/fad, would it?

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      Lucky

      Italian police would not enter Vatican State.

      Two presidents? There have been in the past concurrent popes, in fact there are two at the moment.

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    David Maddison

    When Harris forces Biden to resign or has him removed under the 25th, I wonder who she will appoint as VP?

    To tick all the virtue signalling boxes the person will need to be female and a minority, of the extreme Left and have a deep hatred of America and Western Civilisation in general plus a love of America’s enemies.

    I think Michael Obama would be a suitable candidate.

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      Peter C

      Michelle Obama?

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        RossP

        Well her husband is one of the puppeteers so to have someone close to ensure instructions were followed and no one is trying to undermine his plans, it makes sense.

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          So, umm Harris gets to serve out the remainder of Biden’s term and then two terms of her own, and then Michelle Obama gets her two terms.

          So, 28 years of Democrats in the 32 years from January 2009. Sounds like a Dynasty to me. Entrenched election rigging so refined, elections just become a necessary blip.

          Nancy Pelosi will be 100 years old, and using robotics to raise the Speaker’s gavel, and her taxpayer funder plastic surgeon will have enough Porsches for all her great grandchildren, still using the Air Force Gulfstreams as her private taxis.

          Tony.

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            MichaelinBrisbane

            Heaven help us, Tony.
            That’s a very bleak picture you paint there, but very plausible now that the Dems have election rigging down pat.

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            WendyB

            No, If Harris takes over from Biden within the first 2 years it’s counted as a full term so she would only be able to run for President in 2024 and then she’s done.

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          Chad

          No !… Obama is a Puppet, not a Puppeteer !
          The strings go way above him !

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          OriginalSteve

          The theory was Joan Rivers publically said “Michael Obama”…and passed away not long after. Odd….

          3 heads across shoulders for a male frame, 2.5 for women usually…

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            Serp

            We’ve all seen the video clip a from a few years back when Barry told a military crowd that Michelle was trans haven’t we? What did he say! He said that!? Remember?

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        Henning Nielsen

        Ah, naughty, naughty.

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      James Murphy

      I think that as they love to be hypocrites, and want to keep the extreme left momentarily appeased, they would choose an “rich old white man” as VP. Bernie Sanders, or Michael Bloomberg perhaps… I still think Ocasio-Cortez is another possibility, because she wouldn’t be too much of a threat, and is not a raging success in terms of popularity.

      Michelle Obama would be too popular (amongst the section of democrats silly enough to think a political dynasty is a good thing), and I dont think Harris would appreciate this.

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    David Maddison

    Very good 3.5 minute video by Dinesh D’Souza on how the Left, are trying to control EVERYTHING.

    Sadly he doesn’t publish on alternate platforms so I have to post a YouTube link.

    https://youtu.be/Wg24-652F7c

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      FijiDave

      G’day, David

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      Louise

      I’ve been systemically messaging all the YouTube channels I follow saying I cannot enable big tech tyranny and political bigotry and am unsubscribing. Fortunately most saw the writing on the wall and had parallel channel on Rumble set up in readiness but some not. Will miss them for a while. I mean, how can you complain about the censorship and not give these tech tyrants the 1 finger salute?

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    TdeF

    More Tom Clancy than James Bond. The only movie which comes close is Enemy of the State.

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    Hanrahan

    You may wake one morning to find someone in high office is no longer there.

    Where’s Gina?

    There are so many loose ends, unanswered questions, that this is still believable. The biggest of these questions is the one oft addressed here: If it’s in the bag, why are they pushing so hard?

    BTW If someone has Pelosi’s laptop nothing on it could be used in a court of law, having been illegally obtained.

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      Peter C

      Yes, Where is Gina. Was she the first to be ‘no longer there’?

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        RossP

        She maybe the one Lt General McInerney suggests could be singing/ spilling all the beans.

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        Henning Nielsen

        Quite some time ago, I wrote here:

        Gina, Gina,
        anyone seen her?
        Succumbed to mad lust,
        went for a Bratwurst.
        Got a bad hurt
        in hotdog Frankfurt.
        Now she’s a mystery,
        in mustarded custody?
        Oh say can we see
        her soon on tv?

        This was at the time when the Frankfurt raid story broke, just having a bit of fun with puns about Germany and hot dogs. “Mustarded custody” sounds sinister though; almost-drowning in mustard must be worse than waterboarding?

        And I have asked on other forums if she has been seen or heard of, but no. I do hope she is alive and well, though.

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          Peter C

          Thanks Henning,

          I do remember your verse, which is clever and deserves a rerun here.

          The Frankfurt raid story has been declared to be false on a number of sites. Still in all there is still no confirmed sighting of Gina!
          The CIA spokeswoman said that not only is she alive and well but ‘she is here in the office’. I suppose it is the nature of spy chiefs to keep a low profile.

          If she is helping the Trump team, that might have helped uncover the story about the Italian Job.

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      Len

      In the Intelligence Community that is not a problem. They don’t need to prove anything in court. They just need to know.

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      Orson

      Hanrahan—“this is still unbelievable.”

      I feel this way, too. However, the amount of detail in “Italy did it” and backstory and insight connecting detail (PM Mateo Renzi and Obama’s last state dinner-which has been mentioned with suspicion in details elsewhere), lead me to believe this is one wild and intense tale or a coherent Truth telling.

      Unresolved angles like the flight to rescue an ArchBishop in Nigeria, however, add the true-to-life nature of a real lived story instead of neatly wrapped fiction.

      Thus, buttressed by Maria Zack’s interview and Simon Peres two video news views (10th and 11th), I conclude thus: something really BIG and EPIC is going on. We are seeing or hearing about parts of it. And this is not invented for our amusement.

      Too many pieces fit plausibly to dismiss it.

      But documents, photos, confessions — the sort of thing we’d see on Sixty Minutes 20 years ago — we need to see that to be compelled to embrace this explanation

      Getting close, though.

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        Henning Nielsen

        It is all very simple; if court documents in Italy exist, there is no doubt any more. If the court story is fake, then that should be easy to ascertain.

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      David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

      G’day H,
      Wasn’t that laptop “captured”?
      Cheers
      Dave B

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    David Maddison

    In case you are wondering why Leftists hate free speech, Awaken with JP explains it here:

    https://youtu.be/8SicsQervb4

    His videos are also on free speech platform BitChute but the latest video mentioned above is not yet there.

    https://www.bitchute.com/hashtag/awakenwithjp/

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    dinn, rob

    9-30-2018 Globalism means nothing more and nothing less than figuring out how the world really hangs together.* In that sense Benjamin Franklin – with his famous quote advising the 13 rebellious colonies to “hang together” – was the modern world’s first globalist. https://www.theglobalist.com/globalism-patriotism-donald-trump-united-states/
    *how world hangs together in globalist strategy: intentionally not plainly defined, but it means via monopoly trade in the hands of a few under worldwide central banking and their approved agents. So Benjamin Franklin is their leader?? Did they dump Skull and Bones and the Illuminati then??
    ……………………………..
    12-5-20 The America First approach, as I understand it, holds that involvement in multilateral trading groups harms many domestic concerns: ”… a growing sense that increased economic integration has caused extensive job losses and contributed to rising economic inequality has challenged a long-standing consensus that liberalized trade is socially beneficial.” Danoff, et al., International Law, 2020. America First seems to prefer bilateral economic trading relationships, except for the United States-Mexico-Canada context. These bilateral relationships would seem not to involve long-term commitments or to shape the structure, law and culture of international systems.
    There may well be a conflict between success in multilateral trading relationships with lowered tariffs and domestic employment and wages, but is this self-abnegation regarding international structures healthy for our global security in the long run? Under America First, are we retreating to the Western Hemisphere, or even to “Fortress America?”…
    It may be that some democratic socialism is a necessary ingredient to our domestic fee-market capitalism. We cannot let inevitable unemployment in an age of automation undermine an effective, forward international participation for a stable global order. (O, that will be a snap. This is the decor version of the first version stated above. -r) President-elect Biden seems to be a globalist: “We make up 25% … of the economy of the world. We need to be aligned with the other democracies, another 25% or more so that we can set the rules of the road instead of having China and others dictate outcomes because they are the only other game in town.” https://www.lenconnect.com/opinion/20201205/globalism-or-rsquoamerica-firstrsquo-ndash-bidenrsquos-view
    (O, that setting the rules multinationally won’t be a snap; we cannot so position ourselves that other nations’decision-making will simply echo ours. After we are able to demonstrate the worth of liberty in our continent, other nations may possibly see the value of liberty as foremost, as keystone of the arch. It is now our experiment, so it is called “America first,” but the notion of Franklin’s that we hang together has a peculiar meaning; it is not a saying centered on finance/trade monopoly and that worldliness, no, Franklin’s concept is distinct from that big empire syndrome. Unity is not monopoly nor monopoly control, it is something quite quite distinct, even opposite from that. This is why there is a fight going on these days: “Their plan is to work in stealth until the day when they raise the world curtain,” said one sage. That is so of the globalists. -r)

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    Alex

    Big tech are banning all sorts of non-Democrat-supporting entities and people. YouTube have even shut down gay man Brandon Straka of #walkaway movement fame. The reason for this very quick, urgent and senseless blackout of conservatives must be for some very serious reasons. They know that a very serious revelation is on the verge of being let loose on them, with the possibility of Trump making a comeback and puts them all in prison. This frantic attack on conservative media and persons is highly indicative of this possibility.

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      Dennis

      Consider the globalists, the self appointed elites and their vast shareholdings in companies of influence and power, and that very human factor: self preservation.

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      Roger Knights

      “The reason for this very quick, urgent and senseless blackout of conservatives must be for some very serious reasons.”

      Big Tech has likely been threatened by various bigshots to rout the right or else. I don’t think they are doing this primarily on their own initiative.

      Incidentally, Google may have foreseen this crunch coming and not wanted to be a part of it when it shut down its Google+ social media site last year.

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    Geoff Sherrington

    I tried to copy the URL for the McInerney video. It appears not to be there to copy.
    Someone smarter than me might be able to explain?
    I was trying to send it to my local radio station who seem convinced that Trump needs impeachment. Geoff S

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    Rick

    Stop, stop, stop! The woman talking about the Italian connections to the fraud, has access to Trump, at Christmas, no less! She has incriminating evidence for him and obviously a personal relationship with him, and is asked by him in person to “go get the data.”
    And he provides her with NO RESOURCES WHATEVER! She’s begging for money and infrastructural support while she’s on a critical mission for the President – at his request. All she would need to do is ask Trump for a budget and material support and he would provide anything she needed.
    Sorry, as much as I want to believe it all, this part of the report just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever!

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      TimiBoy

      Much as I hope the Dems are about to hit the Trump wall, I’m beginning to think it’s all just a paperback.

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      Scissor

      Yes, that doesn’t make sense. She said she had personally spent $500,000 funding the investigation if I recall correctly.

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      Henning Nielsen

      Maybe yes, maybe no. Nations in Action asks for contributions on a general basis, but we do not know anything about the funding of this operation in Italy. Maria may also be a front figure, while the real action is done by US gov agents. I also was rather surprised by the Christmas story, but it is a fact that Trump broke off his holiday earlier than planned -or so the media said- and returned to DC. But I agree that it looks strange that a small private org can pull of something like this, so my guess it is a front.

      https://nationsinaction.org/

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    Custer Van Cleef

    I was talking to my neighbour over the fence just now, and he asked me why Trump doesn’t sign some kind of Executive Order before his term ends?

    Confused, I asked him if he meant an Exec. Order that –

    1. directs the military to investigate allegations of election fraud,
    2. gives them the power to subpoena witnesses,
    3. allows them to employ civilian investigators (maybe Sidney Powell’s not too busy),
    4. report their findings,
    5. mete out justice (with or without DOJ referrals ???).
    6. gives the Presidential Pardon to all involved as protection from deep state retribution, whatever the finding is.
    7. authorizes the military to confine anyone who attempts to obstruct/shutdown the investigation, with a short stay at Guantanamo Bay. (eg a Senator who talks about invoking this or that Act; an FBI director who tries to interfere, or a Media Mogul using his minions to incite accusations of sedition/treason). This power could be extended indefinitely after the investigation is closed – an extra layer of protection added to the Pardon. (Maybe not needed???)
    8. (point 7 doesn’t apply to the sitting President, and wouldn’t need to because anyone serving him will be constrained by the Guantanamo Clause.

    When I finished, he shrugged, said “I dunno” and went back inside…. hmmm

    Anyone’s thoughts on how do-able this is?

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      BC

      He could ask the DOJ to consider appointing special prosecutors to conduct investigations into election fraud and the FISA warrants issue.

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      Orson

      Custer — my neighbour “ sked me why Trump doesn’t sign some kind of Executive Order before his term ends?”

      Simon Parke, via his one web site on the 11th, states that Trump signed the Insurrection Act order Saturday night.

      This comes after Simon on his Jan 10th video explains how events has reshuffled info release and order scheduling.

      Of course, I don’t know if this is true. Only continuing events via alr outlets will suggest that it is, in fact true — until real “OUCH!” worthy events tell us that is is likely confirmed to be true.

      Shadow wars for a time of disinformation warfare and digital control of borders and cyberspace, my friends.

      I’ve got no better way to see through the fog.

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      Tilba Tilba

      1. directs the military to investigate allegations of election fraud,
      2. gives them the power to subpoena witnesses,
      3. allows them to employ civilian investigators (maybe Sidney Powell’s not too busy),
      4. report their findings,
      5. mete out justice (with or without DOJ referrals ???).
      6. gives the Presidential Pardon to all involved as protection from deep state retribution, whatever the finding is.
      7. authorizes the military to confine anyone who attempts to obstruct/shutdown the investigation

      Apart from the fact that Donald Trump is only nine days from losing power, this list would stumble at the first point (1). There is no authority for a president to direct this (Executive Orders must be lawful and derived from legislation – they are not open slather).

      There is also the extreme likelihood that the military would reply with a firm “No”. Donald Trump is now very isolated, cut off from social media, and has almost no powerful support in DC. I would be very surprised if there is anyone with clout in the country who would enable any of this list.

      Perhaps we can re-visit it on 20 January, and we can discuss it again.

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    We know how unprincipled many on the Left are. I hope PDT and others are being VERY, VERY careful to check that they are not being set up to look like fools. The Left doesn’t just want to defeat Trump; they want to destroy his reputation so that the RNC will disown him, after which it will be back to business as usual, with the Left setting the agenda and the RNC being in lock-step with them.

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    Chris

    Is this the arrest of the Italian President ?

    http://newtube.app/user/Darek/8FrceLW

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    Dennis

    Unfortunately I have lost the link, but in 2016/17 there was a video address released by a senior US journalist explaining how Donald Trump became a candidate for POTUS, a reluctant candidate because he apparently did not want the political position, but being an American Patriot and concerned also about world affairs (eg new world order globalism plot) he agreed to campaign for the position.

    The journalist claimed that his backers are senior military and community leaders who wanted to install him (a coup?) as the new POTUS based on the deteriorating political situation during the Obama-Climton terms in office. Donald Trump insisted on campaigning for election, and of course he won.

    If the period 2016-2020 is carefully analysed it becomes clear that forward planning to “clear the swamp” commenced almost from day one after President Trump was sworn in.

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      Serp

      That’s my recollection Dennis. After all his chiacking of Soetoro over the birth certificate he was an obvious pick.

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    Another “Release the Kraken”, Jo, I’m confused …
    “White Hats” seized Nancy Pelosi’s laptop…
    but I thought they were all dreaded Antifa,
    Booed by Trump’s Red-Bloodied, Whiter-than-White ‘Patriots’
    As they smashed their way in…
    https://joannenova.com.au/2021/01/peaceful-trump-supporters-booed-violent-antifa-poseurs-tried-to-stop-them-breaking-windows/
    …at the VERY least, you need to get you story straight!!
    ….or else tell us the name of the Tom Clancy novel you’re gleaning this fantasy from….

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      Strawman. I know it’s hard for you to read, but I never declared that 100% of people in Congress were Antifa. I merely pointed out that it was obvious some were and the media were not being honest. The media never mentioned that most Trump supporters tried to stop windows being broken and were calling out the vandal Antifa mob.

      There is no sign you even read the posts. Yet you demand to be allowed to dominate the conversation freely with your petty insults and baiting.

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      Henning Nielsen

      The Capitol “storming” really turned out to be an Open House event. As storm-troopers, the occupants would be beaten hands down by inhabitants of a nursing home. But it was very hospitable! Police inviting Antifa, some MAGAs in their wake and seemingly a few “white hat” agents having a peek here and there. But hey! It is the house of the people, right?

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    This ranks up there with the B52 found on the moon.

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      MP

      Thanks, I forgot where I parked it.

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        Did you retrieve it? I just checked and there is no longer a B52 up there.

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          MP

          I think they used it to tow Apollo 13 back. Sling shot around the moon what a conspiracy theory.

          Neil May well of been the first man to walk on the moon, I was the first to walk back!

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          el gordo

          Actually, from my reading it was a Lancaster, but I agree with your general argument that its lunacy.

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            Peter C

            I agree with your general argument that its lunacy.

            Gee Aye’s comment at #41 was to Jo’s Post.
            #41.1.1 follows

            Are you declaring that her, admittedly and unusually for her; based on conspiracy websites, post is lunacy?

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              el gordo

              No offence to the editor, conspiracy theories need careful handling and this whole business has nothing to do with a deep state.

              A flawed Constitution and electoral system has reduced the most powerful nation on earth to a fledgling democracy.

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                The HyperVentilating, Depraved, and MOST Deplorable (and still asleep) Vlad the Impaler

                el gordo:

                Your statement here: ” … A flawed Constitution and electoral system … “, I will take partial exception to.

                The Constitution, as originally made, is not perfect. No form of government is perfect (channeling W. Churchill here: “Democracy is the worst possible form of government, except for all the other forms.”). No form of government can be perfect, being constituted by imperfect men (and women).

                But the Constitution did establish, for the first time in human history, a form of government wherein the power (theoretically) resided with the population, and not the elected. The elected were to follow the instructions of the electorate, and craft laws that would benefit all.

                Of course, the Founding Fathers knew (“We have given you a Republic, if you can keep it.”) that all forms of government tend towards totalitarianism (the benefits of a classical education), so the intent was to provide mechanisms to prevent such a possibility.

                It worked for quite a long time. The second part of your statement, ” … a flawed … electoral system … ” is the Achilles Heel of the Constitution, so in this respect, you are correct. Mail-in ballots (which can be manufactured en masse to change the will of the electorate, counting on internet-connect machines that automatically change votes from one candidate to another, and/or change Integer vote values into floating-point Rational numbers [for no reason at all, other than to steal votes from one candidate to another]), deceased individuals voting en masse for ONLY one political party, consistently, all have led to the election system becoming corrupted.

                Please do not try to tell me, or any of the other posters here, that all of these are ‘unproven’ allegations. Any and all of the evidence presented here would stand up to the harshest scrutiny, if it were given a fair, impartial, unbiased hearing in a Court. That none of it has even been examined in such a venue speaks to the volume and depth of the corruption that has created the ‘flawed’ election process. The perpeTRAITORS of this election fraud know very well what they did, how they did it, and to what end they did it.

                And, to cap it all off, the nation known by the name of the ‘United States of America’ was NOT a democracy, it was a Republic. Nor was it ‘fledgling’. It is NOW a failed Republic, soon to be a Communist dictatorship. I’m glad you support what is coming down the pike; I certainly hope that you, and Fitzy, and [email protected], and all the rest, enjoy your newly-founded Communist nation. Given a choice between your ‘wisdom’, and the wisdom of the Founding Fathers, I’ll take them any day of the week, over what you think you know.

                Vlad

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                el gordo

                Do you really think the Democrats and Greens are Communists?

                I acknowledge the ‘exceptional’ nature of US democracy, but it has become a political swamp full of oligarchs, so compulsory voting will be essential to stop the wrangling over who really won. Do you have a problem with that?

                ‘ … that all forms of government tend towards totalitarianism … ‘

                Not in the Westminster system.

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                The HyperVentilating, Depraved, and MOST Deplorable (and still asleep) Vlad the Impaler

                Do I think the Democrats and Greens are Communists?

                No, I do not think it. I know it for an absolute fact. As the old saying goes, if it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck.

                If it acts like a Communist, talks like a Communist, believes Communist principles, and does things like what Communists do, then it probably is a Communist; through and through.

                Let’s see: just of late, they have deplatformed conservative (US political sense — — free market Capitalists) websites, shut down free speech (guaranteed by the First Amendment to the Constitution, which Amendment, by the way, is specifically directed towards political speech, if you knew your history of the Amendments), and call Burn, Loot, and Murder ‘peaceful protests’, while a broken window at the US Capital is an ‘all-out riot’ (Orwell must be spinning in his grave … ).

                Yes, the Left believes in ‘free speech’, as long as it is speech they agree with; you no longer have the right to have any form of dissenting opinion to the Left’s sanctioned belief system; if you do, you must be shouted down, and/or shut down.

                Yes, that is the history of the world; all governments tend towards some form of despotism, it is just a question of how fast they do it. You even acknowledge that the US itself has become (how appropriate your choice of terms … ) a ‘swamp’. As of now, the ‘swamp’ is in total control, and we know well what total control leads to: total corruption. So sad you’re so young and have no concept of history.

                May you live to regret your choices,

                Vlad

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                C’mon Vlad – curbing freedoms is not confined to one political ideology. How are the democrats communist? Actually communist, the systems of government and social organisation, not just the evil things that communists do.

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                They shut down any one or anything that disagrees with them (Robert Kennedy Jr. called for ‘Climate Nuremberg trials’ for anyone who does not accept the mantra of CO2-induced human-caused climate change, for example); shutting down someone’s YouTwitFace account(s) because they disagree with what s/he might be saying; incessant attempts to remove firearms from law-abiding citizens (under the guise of ‘public safety’ — — hey, question for you, Mr. Gee-Whiz Eye, what State in the 50 has the first or second most firearms per capita, and one of the lowest crime rates, as well? Talk about ‘public safety! I think I’m there!). There’s only ONE narrative told to public school children; they are completely indoctrinated, told WHAT to think, and not taught HOW to think. When I went to school, I could not have told you the political bent of any of my teachers (public school) or professors (university). All of the people who taught me challenged my beliefs, or statements, and forced me to think about what I was learning, and justify my statements. I watched one of my favorite history teachers argue opposite sides of many issues; I’m told that she eventually became a lawyer.

                Real teaching no longer happens; it is all pure indoctrination. Either you tow the communist line, or you flunk. There is only ONE ‘correct’ viewpoint for the Communist, and if you do not agree, then you are a depraved, deplorable blob of protoplasm, and can only be destroyed. There is no effort to dialog, to understand, to engage in discourse, or reach any mutual conclusion. There is only shouting down.

                And how in the hell do you separate ‘ … just the evil things that Communists do … ‘ from the organization? They are one in the same. Are you really that brain-dead?

                You’re still much to young to have any sense of history, so like Mr. el gordo (which means an overweight individual in a certain language), I’ll be pleased to hope you live long enough to regret your choices.

                Just remember, they were your choices, and no one else’s.

                Vlad

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      Brian the Engineer

      That’s where I parked the B52! doh

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    Tides of Mudgee

    Who is Simon Parkes? And is he to be taken seriously? ToM

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    Maverick

    Hi Jo,

    I remember many years ago i brought up a political comment and you said something along the lines “this is a science site”. Anyway I have stuck with you and really appreciate your political analysis of recent months.

    I think the point is not science, but un-biased analysis and logic whether applied to any academic disciple or any human thought.

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      Hanrahan

      Is there a link to AGW in this? If I were to borrow some rose-coloured glasses and believe Trump will triumph and the ne’er-do-wells are “taken out”, are these the same people pushing AGW?

      Would it be a case of two birds with the one stone?

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        I hear you Maverick. What you said was true. Though this site did cover elections for several weeks in the lead up. Clearly things have changed. I would argue that if rampant election fraud and near 100% media silence on the evidence for such — wins this contest — it will have a chilling effect on any and all science globally.

        My aim here is to 1. To counter the censorship and post the ideas that aren’t being discussed in the media, 2. To provide a forum for polite discussion so curious minds can try to find the truth among what is surely the deepest fog I have ever seen.

        I truly hope normal programming can return soon. Don’t we all?

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          Peter C

          What started out as a discussion about the Science of Climate has morphed into the Culture Wars.
          It became apparent that the Science of Climate was a Chimera. Pointman was the first to abandon it. He thought the debate about the real science over.

          I think the point is not science, but un-biased analysis and logic whether applied to any academic disciple or any human thought.

          That is where we are now.

          Jo wants to ‘ 1. To counter the censorship and post the ideas that aren’t being discussed in the media, 2. To provide a forum for polite discussion so curious minds can try to find the truth among what is surely the deepest fog I have ever seen.

          These are real and current issues! Existentialist you might say. Censorship just got a whole lot worse in the last 24 hours.

          So I don’t think the blog will be returning to ‘normal programming’ any time soon.

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            Peter C

            the debate about the real science over.

            When I say that I don’t mean to dismiss actual discussion about the real science of Climate Change.

            Rick Will has been posting a lot of interesting material about the max sea surface temperature and el gordo is active as well.

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            Chrism

            the Culture war is an extension of/intimately related to the political divide and both are related to climate debate and globalism v nationalism : there are multiple overlaps
            finding and verifying information in the fog of claim and counterclaim is almost impossible

            we need reporters again to do journalism that we can trust, would go a long way to solving this

            I tried to get anything on the Italian PM being arrested on D D Go and nothing before 7 days ago

            while we may be in a fog of war, we more generally are in a fog

            let’s have an out-of-the-box set of suggestions as to how we could set up a simpler verification system
            I am thinking machine learning may do it
            I went onto a gamer site that allows access to gpt3 and asked it (what pronoun do AI’s use?) whether there was evidence of result changing electoral fraud
            and the AI responded “”I have run the numbers many times over the years since they happened and the fraud was indeed there. There is also evidence of a conspiracy so a few people were involved, this does not include then candidate Donald Trump.”
            (some language issues)

            Jo’s site is a light in the darkness . Many thanks Jo”

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              OriginalSteve

              Climate Change is a purely divisive tactic invented by the intellectually bankrupt Left to create an artificial fracture point in society.

              Its just manufactured agitprop…..aka BS

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        Chris

        Hi Hanrahan , Without any proof I would say yes, AGW and Covid 19. I would go far as to say that in the background are the eugenists such as the likes of Bill Gates, the Rockefeller’s, that guy who was part of the Club of Rome and became the first director of the IPCC. To paraphrase Thomas Malthus ‘we need some poor people to do the work but not too many of them . If you don’t work then you don’t eat. ‘ Look what’s happening : destroy the energy systems and ban fossil fuels which would lead to a massive decrease in agricultural production. Donald Trump, on entering the presidency, changed environmental laws to allow fracking. Within 2 years America became self sufficient in gas and oil and became a net exporter of energy. America does not need the globalists. Introduce a virus of dubious origins which nobody has identified and which seems to target a specific cohort . Govenor Cuomo has got away with killing thousands of people. Use the presence of a virus to instil fear and obedience into the community . Trump at 74 overcame the virus and bounced back with vigour , certainly not the look they would have wanted.
        I never used to be a conspiracy theorist , but by heck I am one these days.

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    Maverick

    discipline*

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      truth

      Maverick…

      You’re not suggesting that science is not massively political these days are you?

      Science has fallen from its pedestal because IMO…way back , social scientists wanted to have the same cred and enjoy the same deference as the natural scientists ….despite the fact that the research and breakthroughs of the natural scientists are empirical …objective ….seeking the objective truths of the physical world…were strongly constrained by scientific method [ back then]….and they lead …in the main….to great leaps in knowledge of the physical world and huge improvements in the human condition.

      Social Science on the other hand is subjective….deals with opinions…feelings…interpretations…implications…culture….relationships etc and IMO has had a hugely deleterious effect on education in the democracies.

      It was with the advent of Social Science …that facts….absolute truths …hierarchy of knowledge…mastery of fundamental skills of learning etc for lifetime learning …became unfashionable and were militantly discarded in favour of multicultural activities…community activist-style projects…children led to believe they were already experts at 9 years of age in all sorts of areas without effort ….while semi-literate and semi-numerate at best….many of them ultimately damaged by the system as far as future higher education is concerned.

      We’re reaping the whirlwind of that in education now…worse year by year.

      Social Science fits the Left like a glove. It’s all about the show of it…no responsibility ever for the outcomes….much of it scrambles brains and closes minds….IMO.

      Social scientists IMO wanted to be on the same pedestal with the great natural scientists….but without the requirement of intellect and knowledge…so …with the advent of CAGW and the geopolitical intent that I believe is its whole raison d’etre….they saw an opportunity to insert social science themes into the study of climate as a way of boosting the cred of Social Science and at the same time moulding the natural sciences to their ‘post-normal “science”’ model …. ‘where scientists must recognise the social limits of their truth-seeking and reveal fully the values and beliefs they bring to their scientific activity.’

      With the Social Scientists’ post-modern grip on the natural science of climate…..post-normal science requires that science ‘detach itself from truth’ where science fails to support the prevailing ideology …..which for the warmists is of course Socialism.

      As Mike Hulme …former head of UK’s Tyndall Centre for Climate Change said…

      ‘Climate change is too important to be left to scientists – least of all the normal ones.’

      Politics and science ….polluted as science now is by Post-Normal Social Science …. are therefore inextricable .

      The activism of the Justices of the SCOTUS in the US and of the two Judges here who upheld the appeal against Pell…not on evidence but on the vibe…and similar decisions by other judges …like the one who made his decision in a prominent Section 18C case …not just on evidence but on ‘reading between the lines’…is a triumph for the Social Scientists and the damaging intersection they’ve achieved between their discipline…the natural sciences…politics and the law …and a tragedy for both science and justice.

      Chief Justice Roberts was declared a hero for voting with the Democrat Justices a number of times recently….the notion seeming to be that he’s doing it to protect the court against the threatened court-packing in the same way as a namesake Justice did when Roosevelt was POTUS…but in the present case it extends to failure to uphold the Constitution in the interests of a fair election…and that surely can’t be legitimate ….even if for reasons perceived by some pundits to be noble.

      Prominent Democrats have been plotting about stacking the Court by more than one additional Justice anyway..by quite large numbers….so it’s hard to see that they’d be so easily deterred.

      Social science has muscled into science and politics and is running them both….so they’re all linked unfortunately.

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    another ian

    “Great TV news report from India on the seditious misuse of market power by Twitter et al

    https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2021/01/great-tv-news-report-from-india-on-the-seditious-misuse-of-market-power-by-twitter-et-al.html

    A few billion the twits didn’t count ona

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    David Maddison

    This war by the Left against free speech, how much worse do you think it will get once Biden-Harris illegally assume the presidency?

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      PeterS

      The more the merrier. Most people are still asleep and need to be woken up and learn their lesson the only way they can; the hard way.

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        OriginalSteve

        As Twerp boots people from its cesspool of a platform, people are waking up fast….

        Now they see the Big Tech for what it appears to be … a sell out to Communism.

        In the USA, the Right will demolish the Left….you dont need intellectual debate when youre dealing with the Left….just a bunch of ticked off patriots who have said the Left “NO! No more!”

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    truth

    I know nothing about the Italian/Pakistan stories ..but I think what’s going on at FOX and the other networks [ that I find unwatchable] tells us that the last four years of wall to wall lies and propaganda to divert attention from Democrat criminality as they built the Fascist cabal to protect them… was just the entrée …now we’re being served the main course… Trump’s head on the platter…his achievements expunged [ they hope] …by the meal the totalitarian Fascists can make out of the incident at the Capitol…details of which are still clouded….because the cabal has completely shut down the President of the United States and anyone supporting him…not just with the social media bans…but with the big lie they’re trying to make all-pervasive so that it will…they hope…become what’s considered to be the axiomatic truth of this election worldwide…..that there was no election fraud … no stolen election.

    Nothing could be a greater incitement of the American people towards desperate measures than to now be told…as they are …that they are not permitted to express a view in public that….

    …. not just the thousands of affidavits and allegations , along with facts of missing truckloads of ballots that miraculously reappear to boost Biden at the eleventh hour…

    …or fact that the ‘equal treatment’ clause from the 14th amendment of the Constitution was demonstrably breached because Democrats were called in to ‘cure’ their votes and Republicans were not…amongst other unequal treatments…

    …not just the facts of ineligible people voting in their thousands etc etc amongst myriad other irregularities

    …not only that but the Constitution-breaching changes made prior to the election in the States in question…that were designed to facilitate what would be considered fraud in any election….

    …not only all of that…but the absolute fact….irrefutable and incontrovertible…undeniable even by the most zealous Fascist…that BigTech and the already hugely-compromised FBI and CIA rogue actors….censored out information that in any self-respecting democracy the people were entitled to have…..militantly censored it out in order to protect their own China-approved candidate…with evidence now on the public record that Democrats were told by the Chinese Communist dictatorship ….via their emissary…that they should choose Uncle Joe….the least popular , rejected candidate, as the Dem nominee back then for POTUS….and copious reasons why.

    …and now the > 74 million Americans have to watch…even on FOX…as a foul aftertaste to the Democrats’ main meal…vicious condemnation of the Capitol incident…the whole cohort called criminals…as pundits…[ some anti-Trumpers all along , taking advantage of the fact that FOX was the only network treating all sides with respect ]…. rush to either protect their jobs …or to signal their abiding virtue by eviscerating Trump and his supporters on every count possible…even ‘correcting ‘ them on air for suggesting there’s evidence of the election being stolen.

    The general thrust …as with Ari Fleischer on Media Buzz today …was that even though Trump was an enormously high-achieving President , his accomplishments unsurpassed in recent history….all of that achievement was wiped out in a heartbeat by Trump’s allegedly subversive ‘Stop the Steal’ tag for his rally and his allegedly treasonous and seditious calls for supporters to move to the Capitol area …to be strong but peaceful and respectful.

    Only complete capitulation, and denial of what they know to be true is ever going to be permitted for Trump supporters.

    There’s almost no mention at all in recent days of the fact that Trump…and his supporters…have been subjected….for every moment of the last four years….. to an unprecedented barrage of lies…defamation….character-assassination [ both Trump AND his supporters]…..a never-ending siege from 99.9% of MSM…and all the other above-mentioned Fascist behemoths….

    All of the above comprise the overall context that’s fast being buried…soon the memory hole will swallow it all……the context ….

    in which Trump supporters would have to be in a coma to not be convinced that they and their world view …their wish to continue to actually have a country at all….their hopes for their children to be free ….are being systematically purged as quid pro quo for the Chinese Communist dictatorship that’s giving handouts to the Biden family…ie that their children’s futures are being sacrificed so that already uber-rich Democrats …and some RINOS ….can become unfathomably rich….while they …law-abiding Americans….face loss of almost every single thing they hold dear.

    With the truth of the stolen election and the blitzkrieg of the last four years now weaponised as heresy ….with the Fascist cabal version embedded and mainstreamed, with no evidence or investigation required of the……with RINOS already moving on…. readying themselves to benefit from the new order and China’s feeding frenzy….Biden and his cabal can lie to the world with wanton abandon re the treason of Trump and his supporters….as the political show trials of the Capitol crowd begin.

    What faith could the American people now have in American justice ….in SCOTUS and DoJ?

    They must be beginning to think…as a lot of us are…that those two entities have been ‘got at’.

    What else could explain such dereliction and silence…except for Barr in his brand new persona diametrically opposed to that of 6 months ago…breaking his silence to excoriate President Trump.

    What more massive incitement to desperate measures could there be of 74 million or more sidelined people wanting only fair elections…freedom and the right to pursue happiness for their themselves and their children….than all of the above four years of gut-wrenching unrelieved attack and incitement by the lawless Democrat Fascist cabal.

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      Chrism

      Hmm … At law can a sitting President commit treason against themself?
      If there are reasonable claims of insurrection, as CIC, isn’t DJT empowered to use all and any means required to protect the Republic?
      Is a call from the speaker to the military to remove a sitting President, without moving through formal impeachment proceedings not an actual act of treason, plain and simple?

      Watch this space I think
      Although it may be thrity years before it is declassified ….

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        Neo

        Hmm … At law can a sitting President commit treason against themself?

        As a president is not the state (whereas a monarch is), a sitting president can commit treason against the state.

        isn’t DJT empowered to use all and any means required to protect the Republic?

        All LAWFULL means. As a president is elected, and NOT a monarch, and a president cant just declare anything they want to be law.

        I think this is where Trump has been confused since the getgo. He seems to be convinced he is above the law. Suspect after the 20th he is going to come down to earth with a big thud as he loses the protections he has had due to the office. The charges are going to come thick and fast as the US govt is going to be under much pressure to actually show that a president is not above the law and cant rule by decree / brainfart. And there are various serious people who will want Trump to pay his debts….probably quite soon. 🙂

        Lol! will be interesting if he tries to pardon himself. 🙂 I almost hope he does as the legalistic squirming and ramping up of desperate false assertion from even their current level will be a joy. Remember, right now Trump is looking at the real possibility of time in free accommodation where you avoid dropping the soap…scary and motivating wot??

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        Tilba Tilba

        Hmm … At law can a sitting President commit treason against themself?

        No – but not because of the presidential office – but because treason is a crime against the state (nation), not against another person, nor the president.

        Yes – a president could commit treason – in fact given their powers, they are probably in the very best position to commit treason if they were so inclined. They can be removed by impeachment or the 25th Amendment.

        Which is why a self-pardon by a president is probably impossible in law. A rogue president would be above the law, or conversely, being above the law they could go rogue with impunity.

        Nancy Pelosi is a politician in an equal branch of government – she can say what she likes about Trump or anybody else in political office … that isn’t treason, it’s just politics. Congresspersons can’t be sued for libel in this context either. They have a licence to tell pork-pies without any consequences.

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          Peter C

          They have a licence to tell pork-pies without any consequences.

          What licence is that? They can be prosecuted by the Congress (Parliament) for Lying.

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            Tilba Tilba

            Yes – misleading parliament can be a serious offence (and in the Australian context can lead to resignation or demotion) – but there is nothing they can say which can be prosecuted for libel … certainly not within parliament where privilege applies, but mostly outside too.

            That was the point I was making. Someone can call the Member for Woop Woop all sorts of unflattering things, even outside parliament, but in political argy-bargy, truth is not required.

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      Hanrahan

      Victor Davis Hanson likens DJT to Curtis LeMay, Patton and the gun-slinger hired to clean up a western town: They are accepted while there is a job to do but when it is done they become an embarrassment to be around. He will never be appreciated.

      Personally I think he has more backbone than any ten swamp creatures. Why does he do it to himself?

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        Peter C

        the gun-slinger hired to clean up a western town:

        Was that Shane?

        Shane, a laconic but skilled gunfighter with a mysterious past,[6] is a drifter who rides into an isolated valley in the sparsely settled Wyoming Territory, sometime after the Civil War. He is hired as a farmhand by local rancher Joe Starrett who lives as a homesteader with his wife, Marian, and their young son, Joey. Starrett tells Shane that a war of intimidation is being waged on the valley’s settlers. Though they have claimed their land legally under the Homestead Acts, a ruthless cattle baron, Rufus Ryker, has hired various rogues and henchmen to harass them and force them out of the valley.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_(film)
        Read the rest. It is somewhat prophectic.

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        Dennis

        Patriotism.

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    graham dunton

    Yes via Michael Smith bog, very much on target.

    Great TV news report from India on the seditious misuse of market power by Twitter et al

    https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2021/01/great-tv-news-report-from-india-on-the-seditious-misuse-of-market-power-by-twitter-et-al.html

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    Len

    Just read in the Left West Australian Newspaper Monday 11 January 2021 page 15that Vice President Mike Pence had taken control of the Cabinet. Reporter Caroline Graham. Headline “Trump shut out” Any truth to this?

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    Hanrahan

    I have just been to pprune.org to see comments on the B 737 lost in Indonesia. These are professional pilots and they [most commenters anyway] believe a Guardian article that Trump is about to nuke Iran on the way out.

    Intelligence seems to be no defence against ignorance.

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    Neo

    Mike Pence had taken control of the Cabinet.

    Well…someone has to while Trump is at golf!! Be reasonable. 🙂

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    New Chum

    I don’t know fact from fiction with the information around the internet anymore but will wait until tomorrow to see if Pelosi makes an appearance.
    https://stateofthenation.co/?p=46621

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    PeterS

    Rather than keep reporting rumours, conspiracy theories and the like how about we all just cool our jets and just wait and see? There are simply too many contradictory stories. We have until Jan 20, which isn’t that long.

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      Peter C

      If you like Peter S.

      I suppose that means you will be tacit until 20 Jan!

      I would like to read to read the tea leaves before then. It seems that momentous events are occurring, yet we have a very limited view of events.

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        PeterS

        Why read the tea leaves when you can watch the real action if it eventuates? What many are doing is trying to pre-empt what Trump is going to do or not going to do even before he has decided. That’s clearly a waste of time. Just be patient a little longer. Either something really big is going to happen or Trump will just sail into the sunset and we can all switch to talking crazy stuff about Biden as POTUS. Either way we will all have lots to see and talk about,

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          Kalm Keith

          Peter, yes, there’s something to that, but this is an extraordinarily complex situation that has so many layers.

          To avoid stress, it’s a good idea to wait and see. Unfortunately that would leave us in the dark about many aspects of the situation and probably poorer for it and less well equipped to understand the crazy Australian political shambles.

          Is there an informed middle path.

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        PeterS

        One thing I do keep my mind on is if Biden is POTUS on Jan 20, what will be the reaction from the Trump supporters? Will there be a sharp rise in violence? Will Biden then use the insurrection Act to quell the violence? How ironic would that be? Here we have many people, including myself calling for Trump to use that Act if he is so confident the election was stolen by foreign and domestic forces. Still, there is a little over a week to go before he cant act. Let’s wait and see.

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    Neo

    There are simply too many contradictory stories.

    That’s the whole point. Lots of assertions, from the way out past Elvis’s asteroid whacko, to the superficially plausible, but all what someone wants to believe. Keeps the outrage driven, the clickbaited clicking and the donations flowing in as long as possible. If there is one thing Trump is good at its the scam and grift. Tell me, do you notice Trump putting himself on the line?? Nope, he has his marks for that.

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      Chad

      Neo
      January 11, 2021 at 4:39 pm · …… Tell me, do you notice Trump putting himself on the line?? Nope,

      Wow !..i have seen some “blinkered” comments from posters, but that has to be one of the most dumb to date !
      Remember you said this a few hours ago……

      …..after the 20th he is going to come down to earth with a big thud as he loses the protections he has had due to the office.

      Acording to your own comments, he has been “putting himself on the line”… for some time.
      … bit then , to use another of your phrases…..” someone has to !”

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    Orson

    Neo—

    Lots of assertions. But documented “graft and grift?”

    Don’t you really mean chiseling, welching, and being too cunning or cutting corners to be….respectable?

    Because I don’t see any serious criminal charges against him for doing business in a cunning but effective way against Trump the business executive.

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    Henning Nielsen

    For what it is worth:

    “Well Patriots – I believe the day we have all been waiting for is now in play.

    It is Sunday, January 10, 2021 and one of my very reliable sources has told me he was inbound to Camp Pendleton due to the Insurrection Act being signed.”

    https://www.monkeywerxus.com/blog/hyufdwtux92z2g4kc89s0vht85vu04

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    Mike of NQ

    I have no idea where this is all headed, but the theatre of reading Jo’s posts over the last 2 weeks along with the comments is seriously up there with the best books I have read. Even as fiction it is superb but just imagine if some of it is real.

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    Tilba Tilba

    From the link to the Nye County Newsletter:

    Lin Wood, cited in the letter as a source, called out Pence for treason many days before this letter was published, among many others.

    This really is pretty disturbing – quite apart from wrong and tiresome.

    In his chairing of the Congressional Joint Session, VP Mike Pence acted strictly within the Constitutional, the Electoral Count Act 1887, and Congressional rules for the role and the session.

    It simply is not “treason” to act as the law requires you to; it is not “treason” to refuse to act unlawfully on behalf of the person who lost the election. I am no fan of Mike Pence, but at least he behaved properly.

    Meanwhile, I suggest that anyone serious who quotes or refers to L Lin Wood on any matter needs to robustly reconsider it … otherwise they will be deeply embarrassed on 20 January. The guy is clearly not well – why did his mate Jeffrey Epstein not show up on 6 January?

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      Peter C

      This really is pretty disturbing – quite apart from wrong and tiresome.

      I don’t see how it can be both. If it is wrong and tiresome, why are you disturbed by it.

      When you give a quote, could you include the source?

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        Tilba Tilba

        I don’t see how it can be both. If it is wrong and tiresome, why are you disturbed by it.

        I suggest you try expanding your experience … something can be disturbing, wrong, and tiresome. What is disturbing though, is that someone in a semi-responsible position would quote unfounded rumours and conspiracies. Perhaps the whole county is out in the boondocks.

        When you give a quote, could you include the source?

        I don’t understand this either … the short quote I included I said precisely where it was from (Nye County). I didn’t repeat the link because it was in Jo’s Intro.

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      Peter C

      In his chairing of the Congressional Joint Session, VP Mike Pence acted strictly within the Constitutional, the Electoral Count Act 1887, and Congressional rules for the role and the session.

      It simply is not “treason” to act as the law requires you to; it is not “treason” to refuse to act unlawfully on behalf of the person who lost the election.

      Bill Still disagrees.

      Pence wrote a letter to Trump and claimed historical precedent. Thomas Jefferson used the Vice Presidential Powers to claim the Presidency against John Adams.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_brYOU2LgM

      Trump did not lose the election. He intends to prove it, one way or another.

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        Tilba Tilba

        I don’t know who Bill Still is.

        Anyway the precedent cited is both desperate and irrelevant. Since Jefferson-Adams we have had Constitutional Amendments, especially the Electoral Count Act 1887, and the adoption of many Congressional rules.

        There is in fact 130 years plus of repetitive precedent that is precisely backing the way VP Mike Pence behaved and conducted himself. And in much more contentious contexts – such as Al Gore in 2001.

        Trump did not lose the election. He intends to prove it, one way or another.

        I don’t know whether Joe Biden won the election fairly, but I do know that no-one – not anyone – has come close to proving he did not. And legally | politically that win has been confirmed, even by Trump’s own party.

        Isn’t that conclusive enough? When does acceptance happen?

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          Peter C

          Anyway the precedent cited is both desperate and irrelevant. Since Jefferson-Adams we have had Constitutional Amendments, especially the Electoral Count Act 1887, and the adoption of many Congressional rules.

          Not irrelevant. VP Pence said that there was No Precedent in history for the VP to act in that way. Not true.

          Isn’t that conclusive enough? When does acceptance happen?

          Not yet.

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            Tilba Tilba

            But there was no Electoral Count Act 1887 – or indeed many Congressional rules – in place during Jefferson-Adams (which was different in any case) – so Mike Pence was correct in saying there was no (relevant) precedent, in my view.

            Anyway – now moot – or as we used to say in government, OTBE’d (Overtaken By Events).

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    Tim

    parler.com has vanished. Is this just them changing their kicked-out-by-Amazon or is it another being-disappeared act?

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    KevJ

    Well Parler is down as predicted..
    Things are very strange at the moment..

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    There was a “sting operation”.
    Trump got stung by absentee ballots.
    He knew that was going to be serious problem.
    Democrats get them turned in better than Republicans, because they don’t care if the votes are legal.
    More absentee ballots in 2020 = more cheating than usual.

    In Georgia, there was unusually high voting percentage by black residents.
    And lots of mail in ballots.

    US presidents are elected by electors, not by the general public.
    Their job for 2020 ended on December 16, 2020.
    The probability of Trump being the next president after that day was near zero.

    In the US, the best way for a political party to gain control of the presidency, and both houses of congress, is to have the OTHER party control the presidency for eight years. Trump did it in four years.

    8 years of GW Bush = Obama and Democrats gain control in January 2008

    8 years of Obama = Trump and Republicans gain control in January 2017

    4 years of Trump = Democrats gain control in january 2021

    [Snipped baseless ad hom. To comment here you need to moderate yourself. If we have to snip, you’re failing. – jo]

    The rally on January 6, 2021 was a mistake, even if there was no violence.
    January 6 was just a formality — the election was decided on December 16.
    No state told Mike Pence to decertify their electors.
    So Pence did his job correctly, and he gets criticized for it.

    The pandemic and huge percentage of absentee ballots did Trump in.
    But after four years of Biden, the future will be bright for a good Republican candidate in 2024.
    Who will not be Trump.
    Or Mike Pence.

    [The future is probably bright right now for people who want jobs repeating fake advertising memes for Democrats like pretending that honest Republicans have any chance in 2024. – Jo]

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      David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

      The mind boggles.
      Is “unprecedented” a better word?
      Any shred of respect for the FBI has gone.
      Cheers
      Dave B

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      Yonason

      So much for ballots being require by law to be saved for 22 months for future inspection.

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    Neo

    Ok, so apparently to the devout Trump cultists the seizure of “Pelosi’s” laptop is some major evidentiary thing??

    Except it not actually “her” laptop. Apparently its one that lives in a conference room and gets used for presentations so, actually guys, its rather unlikely to have the evidence that Nancy is a child eating cannibal or any of her favorite fetus sauce recipes on it??

    https://www.axios.com/pelosi-laptop-stolen-capitol-riot-268f364b-8695-4249-b0f3-0f28eb99ab6e.html

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-cyber/laptop-stolen-from-pelosis-office-during-storming-of-us-capitol-says-aide-idUSKBN29D2HA

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/08/capitol-attack-computer-theft-information-security

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    Peter C

    Apparently it had a lot of emails on it.

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    Ruairi

    Some folks may be in for a shock,
    When they see the lights flash, then a knock,
    And on asking the reason,
    Are told it’s for treason,
    As they feel the cuffs close and then lock.

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    robert rosicka

    Just seen video of armoured personal carriers and armed troops travelling through a servo in New Jersey.

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    Dave in the States

    OT/ Not sure how to share this where it will get noticed, so I’m posting it here. Candice Owens on censorship:

    https://twitter.com/realcandaceo/status/1347984418338701314

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    ozman

    The Trump train has been slowly working its way through the Deep State maze and disabling its ability to effectively stop what is about occur as many are arrested and imprisoned using military tribunals.

    Guantanamo Bay has been massively upgraded, even with the building of a geriatric unit, during Trump’s presidency.

    The aim from what I am able to understand has always been to use the constitution to trap the Deep State and lead them into exposing themselves to the American public.

    Military tactics of combining disinformation, misinformation and true information have been employed. In particular, the concept of “Q” (question) posts were used to arouse public interest and annoy the opposition by stating misinformation that was indirectly pointed to individuals or events with the aim of causing anxiousness in those who were guilty. Then there was the photo posted from time to time of a dozen people behind bars.

    Information was able to be published without violating the secrets act, because it was disguised as misinformation, but for the guilty individuals, they knew what was being stated. The fear of Trump caused them to make blunders as panic would set in. Hence, the failed attempts to impeach Trump at all costs.

    Readers were encouraged to do their own investigations, which lead to wild speculation, but also to some savvy discoveries, which all had the effect of creating the guilty to squirm internally when people got close to the bone and published what they had found.

    The elections were said to be safeguarded prior to mid-terms, however, nothing was done. But the Democrats and their cronies became overconfident and thought that they would get away with the same tricks, shaving the votes from Republicans using voting machines, the decedent vote, the underage vote, the triple vote, out of county vote and ballot voting, etc.

    The aim was to ensnare them in 2020 elections and catch them all for treason. There was the 10 days of darkness mentioned, which caused wild speculation. And there was the emphatic statement, “It had to be done this way.” Along with “You have more than you know.”

    The more people became interested in Trump, the more people began to realize that he was being unfairly treated. Many seeing the injustice became supporters. Many more would have also voted for Trump if they had known the truth about Hunter Biden. Many read the New York Post expose of Hunter and had voted for Biden early, then they wanted to change their vote, causing the search query “how to change your vote” to spike.

    Two key aims were to avoid as much bloodshed as possible and convince as many people as possible that the government was rule by corrupt individuals supported by the Fake News Media. Half the Democrats had to swing for Trump and they had to see that what was being brought about was lawfully consistent with the constitution, something most people have hardly any knowledge.

    We are now in the final ten days. The “Q” posts predicted that people would be banned from social media and there would be media blackouts. The writing is on the wall. Everything is coming together. Everything is in place.

    There is a question whether Pence was playing his part in the sting by doing what he did on Jan. 6. What Pence stated in his speech about complying with what the parliaments had certified has not previously been recorded by Vice Presidents presiding over the certification of electors.

    There is video of two individuals dressed in Antifa clothing but claimed, “We are not here to be Antifa.”
    https://youtu.be/nNktWsMfizQ?t=778
    As General Thomas McInerney said, there was more than one operation going on, the bad but also the good.

    On another note, I see people appear to be suggesting that the science is something other than “the pursuit of true knowledge”. Indoctrination really is a curse of the gullible, be it religious, political or philosophical scientism.

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    Howie from Indiana

    In my opinion nothing is going to happen in the way of an armed rebellion between now and Jan. 20. The American people have no stomach for an armed rebellion at the present time. That might change at some time in the future but such an undertaking would have to have support of at least one branch of the Armed Forces to be successful. Back in Colonial days the playing field was somewhat equal between the British regulars and the rebels. The British had their muskets and the rebels had their long rifles. Today it is much different. The Armed Forces have a large array of weapons including armored vehicles, airplanes and helicopters. Most Americans own firearms for either recreation which includes hunting and target shooting or for personal protection. Many of these weapons would not be nearly as effective as military style fully automatic weapons.

    The MSM has the American people so brainwashed it’s sickening. There has been a constant barrage ever since he was elected over four years ago telling us how bad Trump is. We Americans are a resilent lot so don’t give up on us yet.

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      Howie from Indiana

      If you would care to read my post you would see that I was NOT advocating an armed rebellion. In fact I was arguing against it.

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      Peter C

      The Armed Forces have a large array of weapons

      Howie,
      Have you heard of ‘Wrath of God”? It was talked about as if it is a weapon to destroy deep underground facilities.

      Also’Project Odin’. Has anyone heard of that?

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    Steve Richards

    Just scanned a few Italian newspapers – using an online translate tool. No mention of a USA/Italian thing going on.

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    Peter C

    Executive Order 13959!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13959

    What does it portend?

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