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    TdeF

    A Liberal party which espoused the complete dismantling of carbon taxes and the massive Aboriginal and NDIS and energy rorts and unlimited and incompatible mass migration would romp to victory. But we are presented with the spectacle of Liberal members debating why they should differ from extreme Green party policies plainly designed to destroy very successful Western democracies?

    You can see why Tony Abbott turned his back on the whole business of government by politicians for politicians. The government we elected a decade ago was destroyed by leftist politicians in the Liberal party, mostly retired now on fat pensions.

    You almost miss the straight forward Labor crooks like Graham Richardson who at least were cheerful opportunists. Now the Liberal party room is just full of weak weasels who are neither Conservative nor Liberal. The former broad church worships wokeness and Climate Change and every leftie rort possible. Exactly as in the UK and Canada. Backed by a deceitful ABC which is just as woke as the CBC and BBC. And Trump is calling them all out. It’s about time. We do not need government paid politicians in the ABC, CSIRO, BOM and endless government departments for taxing breathing and shutting down manufacturing, energy and defence and sending the cash to China.

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      Kalm Keith

      That covers it all precisely.
      Victimhood has replaced morality as the guiding light for our once great society.

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      TdeF

      As for so called Climate Change, it’s been a hoax from the beginning. Humans do not and cannot control the CO2 level in the atmosphere. This is maintained continuously and very rapidly by the vast oceans which cover the planet and contain almost all the CO2. The CO2 and H2O produced by burning old leaves is negligible and irrelevant. Who would have thought such a Chicken Little sky is falling story would have worked in a modern world? As always, it’s all about the money and power. A replay of the indulgences scam of the middle of the last millenium and incredibly using the same threat of hell fire as punishment for the sins of humanity.

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        tonyb

        There have been many warmer periods through the Holocene than today. Climatically there is nothing new under the sun. The last ‘Climate Emergency’ was declared in Parliament by King Charles in January 1661 due to the ‘unseasonableness’ of the weather, following a series of very warm winters and very hot summers. This ended abruptly in the bitter cold of the 1690’s . Equally the ‘emergency’ may have reflected the extreme hot weather of the 1540’s or extreme cold weather of the 1560’s or two years of incessant rain from 1315, providing five times annual average rainfall with devastating floods and famine. Older readers will remember the 1970’s alarm over an imminent ice age.

        Why should the UK spend trillions (estimated £200,000 per household) to end up with a worse energy system than today and destroy our economy when it will not have the slightest impact on global temperatures? Presumably Oz is spending a broadly equivalent amount

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          TdeF

          It’s not that the UK is spending, but that it is throwing away fortunes. Importing wood chips from America for the DRAX plant, as somehow producing a different sort of CO2 to coal CO2. Where are the chemists? Whose mad theory of CO2 is this, that there are multiple types of CO2, good CO2 and bad CO2? Where are the world famous British scientists? Or are all the WOKE asleep at the wheel?

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            Graham Richards

            What you describe about coal CO2 & wood chip CO2 is a result of socialist policies, instituted by both conservatives & socialist governments, to “dumb down” the general public. A policy which basically says “ if they don’t know too much, they won’t ask difficult questions & government can get on with any crazy, senseless policies they want to impose on the public!

            Australia is following similar policies!

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            YallaYPoora Kid

            Where are the chemists?

            A professional chemistry scientist I spoke to around 5 years ago insisted that rising CO2 was responsible for ‘global warming’. The discussion at my house sort of ended any further relationship possibility. That said the couple were both of the rabid left leaning political persuasion although were regarded as friends at the time.

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              TdeF

              The he wasn’t much of a scientist! By definition every scientist is a most fundamental sceptic. That’s the job. Nothing less than absolute proof is required. That’s the essential basis of Rational Science from Rene Descartes, science built on absolute certainty. Nothing less. Otherwise you are a true believer, an acolyte or just an opportunist.

              If you have to use your formal qualifications to win an argument, you have no argument. The Voice of Authority is one of the most common fallacies. It is used eternally by governments, backed up by their credentialled lackeys in the CSIRO and Chief Scientist. The Long march through the institutions has seen to the capture of every scientific organization.

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          RickWill

          Z-axis position of the Sun has the most immediate impact on the variation in sunlight over the planet.

          There is a minor southern excursion minimum in 2029 but the Sun remains north of Earth’s elliptic plane. You will have to wait till 2040 for the next southern minimum, which is not quite as far south as the 1980 southern excursion.

          Although the amount of sunlight reaching Earth is almost constant, changing the angle of incidence shifts the solar intensity north or south. Earth heats up during northern excursions because the thermal response to solar forcing in the NH is 3.3X that of the SH. So northern excursions drive temperature and southern excursion drive temperature down.

          The last peak northern excursion was 2023. It was almost as high as the 1998 northern peak.

          These are relatively short term variation on a long term trend of increasing solar intensity in the NH that began around 400 years ago.

          These are things that climate models are blind to because they do not consider variation in solar intensity across latitudes and seasons.

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        Mario

        Climate change is very much how you measure it. The Earth is flat if you measure over a metre or a km or even a thousand metres. Anyone can prove that. Get a metre ruler put it on the ground, the Earth is flat. Same for the climate. Measure a period that is too short and you can argue it’s warming, cooling or staying the same. There was global warming this morning once the sun rose, and global cooling at sunset…. Even the 30 years of weather defines climate is a bit arbitrary. One needs to look at a period of at least a hundred, or a thousand years to determine any trend. Further, we have only been measuring temperature accurately for a few hundred years at best. The rest is all proxy based and these all have issues.

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      Skepticynic

      100% true and well said.
      Step up to the plate TdeF, your country needs you!

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      Johnny Rotten

      Emissions Impossible

      All Energy Systems must obey the Laws of Thermodynamics

      Physics and Chemistry beats Ideology and Cults every time

      Nut Zero and a Net Zero IQ for the ‘Pollies’

      The cold kills more people than the heat

      Follow Mother Nature and just adapt. It is better and cheaper than the Madness of today

      And then everyone lived happily ever after.

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      David Maddison

      Wwll said TdeF.

      And if you had to classify the nature of those weak people in the Liberal Party you would have to say they arw nearly all Beta males and Karens.

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        el+gordo

        Yep, its well written, worth a Distinction.

        But before we send it off to Hastie we need to attach something scientifically solid to prove that CO2 doesn’t cause global warming.

        Paleo climate history (before 1976) stuffed into a Quantum AI system and ask that simple question.

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        They don’t even rise to Beta status, most of them would be lucky to make Epsilon.

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      Geoff Sherrington

      TdeF,
      While I agree with you that all or nothing beats eternal dithering about this matter, I grapple with maintaining the fundamentals of democracy. When a majority of the national population clearly favours a particular policy, however much we dislike it, should we not accept that it becomes legitimate rather than fringe?
      Also, those with a deep interest in a matter under national discussion have the opportunity to mimic the tactics of those opposite who brought it to prominence. I do not see a history of those against climate change, for example, producing and using various means to have officially accepted, educational material to fill the minds of our youngsters. Geoff S

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        TdeF

        “When a majority of the national population clearly favours a particular policy”. Are you saying a majority support action on Climate Change?

        I believe that if a referendum on action on man made Climate Change were held today almost all organizations and businesses and politicians and news media and the CSIRO, BOM, University Chancellors, Governor General, Business Leaders, most Political parties would vote YES. The largest body representing scientists in Australia is Science & Technology Australia (STA), the peak body for over 235,000 scientists and technologists across 140 member organisations, including many scientific societies and research institutions recommended a YES vote in the last Referendum. They were all wrong.

        I believe that most Australians would vote NO to Climate Change action despite three decades of indoctrination by the above groups.

        When Tony Abbott was elected, we all voted NO to Carbon Taxes and mass uncontrolled migration. And he won in a landslide. He was not thrown out by the people, but by his own party, half of whom were new to to job thanks to Tony Abbott and rode on his policies. So most of them lost a the next election. And mass uncontrolled migration switched to the air.

        We are not being ruled by the wishes of the Australian people.

        How many engineers and scientists or tradesmen or skilled or unskilled workers are in any parliament? At least 70% are lawyers who represent less than 1% of the Australian community. And they are writing complex punitive laws based on hoax science they do not and cannot understand, backed by political organizations whose leaders are hand picked to support the government, like the department of the Chief Scientist, top public servant positions open only to those who swear fidelity to man made Climate Change.

        The biggest engineering project in Australia ever is Snowy II, already more expensive than the Panama Canal and now approaching the cost and twice the time for the Channel Tunnel for something which will not be used. Like 3 out of 5 massive desalination plants for the drought which would never end. The Gladstone pipeline. The giant batteries. The endless private windfarms at public expense. The lunch time solar farce which is getting worse. The demand that we buy 5 million Chinese electric cars in the next ten years. Not a single dam. Or water pipeline for farming and drought insulation.

        The Australian people want none of this nonsense. None.

        Every week there is another useless billion $ engineering project abandoned while billionaire Dr Andrew Forrest demands more public money. While he kowtows to the people who made him rich, the Chinese government. He just closed his truck factory in the UK, firing 1,000 people who were to make his electric trucks. He is now buying them from China.

        Meanwhile uncontrolled incompatible migration is soaking up all taxes, pushing up the price of houses and the government is printing money and borrowing trillions to keep spending well below our ability to repay.

        Vote NO on Climate Change would win the next election. Vote NO on uncontrolled and incompatible migration. And sell off the utterly useless and biased 100 year old self governing and useless captured political organizations, the ABC/SBS, BOM, CSIRO and pay down our $2Trillion debt. Australia should be as rich as Saudi Arabia but we will soon be as poor and helpless as Argentina or Venezuela.

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          Ted1

          TdeF. Even you missed what was surely one of the most significant events in the history of our federation. When a foreign politician held sway over our national parliament.

          Do you not remember the spectacle of Al Gore standing alongside Clive Palmer on the steps of our parliament as Clive announced that the RET would be ‘protected”.

          The Palmer United Party harvested four seats in the senate by campaigning to the far right of our political spectrum, then, after coming under Al Gore’s influence, they delivered those seats to the far left in our parliament.

          This thoroughly thwarted the Abbott mandate, virtually giving Al a proxy power of veto in our senate.

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        RickWill

        Geoff,
        I disagree with this:

        I do not see a history of those against climate change

        There have been a few people consistently calling out the climate scam. Ian Plimer and Malcolm Roberts come to mind. But my interest started when I was given a published booklet produced by a CSIRO scientist after he was sacked on how the temperature record was being fiddled. He used his severance to publish the booklet. Last I heard he was teaching science at a tech college.

        I do not know what atmospheric physicists and meteorologists are taught but most of it has little solid physics behind it. Climate science is not science so a climate scientist is primarily a scam artist. Things like back-radiation are just nonsense. But iit pervades the IPCC reports.

        I once sent Judith Curry some work I was doing on solar activity. She replied that the Sun was not an area of her expertise and could not really offer any useful input. I was surprised because the Sun is the basis of all climate on Earth. And small changes in the solar activity and movement of the Sun are reflected in Earth’s climate.

        The climate scam is an agenda. Those pushing it have deliberately avoided open debates and have made great effort to silence anyone questioning the nonsense they produce. It is a house of cards that is collapsing.

        Letting so-called scientists in CSIRO and journalists at their ABC get away with highly damaging activity it not much different to letting teenagers run riot with machetes. It is the responsibility of those who can assess the danger to speak up and take action. The vast majority of Australians expect government institutions to be working in their interest. That is not the case. That is what has changed this century. Government employees have grossly inflated salaries and are working in their own interests not the interest of the producers.

        How much productivity is lost by “welcome to country BS”. I phoned the telecommunications ombudsman tw days ago. I had to listen to about a minute of welcome to country carp before I could talk to a person. Just more inefficiency.

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          Geoff Sherrington

          Rick,
          I am making the point that those opposing climate change, like me, have lost ground because they have not matched the available tactics used by the pro climate change group. I gave an example of capture of school curricula.
          To what are you objecting?
          Geoff S

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            RickWill

            I had interpreted ‘those’ as people rather than their tactics.

            If you mean tactics, then it is what they did in Germany. Victoria has finally realised they need to give life sentences to those recruiting children to commit crimes. That is what Hitler did and it is what is happening with the climate propaganda in our schools. They are recruiting kiddies into a mutual suicide pact.

            Maybe we should be addressing those tactics and bringing heavy punishment to those bringing children into their cause before they have the ability to think for themselves.

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              Given the fact that adults committing adult crimes in Victoria walk time and time again, and even when they get sentenced the sentences are laughably short, with non-parole periods even more laughably short and a Parole Board that lets them out in minimum time no matter their behaviour while the are locked up, Jacinta’s latest piece of misdirection means absolutely nothing.

              The Liberty Victoria judges, a great many of them unqualified in any way to sit the Bench, will still continue setting them free or waving a limp lettuce leaf in their general direction.

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                Jon Rattin

                Is it a coincidence that Chairman Dan’s apprentice finally gets tough on youth crime on the very day that the Indigenous Treaty becomes legislated? I think not.

                It’s a classic ploy used by magicians- misdirection. The incredibly delayed response to youth crime seems to be intentional so as to deflect dissatisfaction from any voters who do not endorse the treaty, ie the majority of Victorians.

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        David of Cooyal in Oz

        G’day Geoff,
        I suggest that you’ve left out the malicious control of information flow by the entity Jo has called “The Blob”:
        control of education of our kids from pre-school to university: control of media by editorial directions in favour of the climate narrative in refusal to publish opposing views; control of academics by “legal” terminations; control of dissident publications by lawfare; control of politicians and wealthy opponents by means unknown to me; and I doubt my list is exhaustive.

        Unfortunately The Blob is an amorphous mass, of many chapters operating (at least largely) independently, and I have no idea how to defeat it.

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      David Maddison

      Conservatives are upset that Tony Abbott turned away from the Liberal Party but he saw what they and the Left (both the Far Left “Moderate” faction of the Party and external Leftists) were prepared to do to him and he decided it wasn’t worthwhile and that the Party is already ruined and infiltrated beyond hope of repair.

      Tony would be better off joining and running for a conservative party like One Nation.

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      John Connor II

      A Liberal party which espoused the complete dismantling of carbon taxes and the massive Aboriginal and NDIS and energy rorts and unlimited and incompatible mass migration would romp to victory.

      Change that to “Any party” and also factor in the need for mass awareness (remember the precipice idea 😉) in order for a party to romp to victory.
      Then factor in the probability of this increasingly hypothetical party having the integrity, ability and real-world competencies to actually implement their election promises. No such party anywhere to be seen…
      THAT my friend is why your post has so many upvotes – the pollies we have are effin’ useless clods. We here in this blog know it, but the masses don’t, as usual. That is the cyclical nature of reality – boom/bust and the bust phase is approaching fast, driven by the clods as usual.

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      Graham Richards

      The LNP have hinted at scrapping net zero & already the weasel words, the statements with two or more meanings, the adding of words , the moving of comas, full stops, capital letters & / or parenthesis , the omission of words is being bandied about in preparation to prevent the scrapping of net zero has begun.

      All this obscure prattling when they themselves scream NO means NO WHEN IT COMES TO THE “ Voice “ referendum. Wake up you dolts. Anything short of scrapping net zero along with the theft ( subsidies ) of tax payer’s money means you’ll be in opposition till hell freezes over!! Got it???

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      Lawrie

      I think the concept of the “broad church” as used by the current crop of Liberals is not the same as that promoted by Menzies. He formed a party that was devoted to the defeat of socialism/communism. I don’t believe he would be happy with the neo-socialists that infest the current party. Menzies’ broad church was recognising that there were many ways of combatting socialism, many ways of achieving the aim. He would be taking Albanese to task on many fronts, expensive electricity being just one.

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      briantheengineer

      Yep, they’ve half arsed it again. Left one foot in for the Photios members.

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      Bruce

      The ALP was well advanced with subverting the Liberal Party by the mid 1990s.

      Look at the lineup; Arch-patrician, Malcolm Fraser and his “corporate statism” really ramped up the rot and was followed by a descent into political and social irrelevance by a conga-line of “Labor-light” pretenders.

      Back in the day, as they say, when one received the official receipt for party membership dues, the reverse of that document was printed with “The Principles of Liberalism” that dated beck to at least the early 1950s.

      A steady stream of members simply gave up renewing their membership. Per the classic line, “I did not leave the party, the party left me!” The organization became the plaything of the “white-shoe brigade” and the legalist class. The open contempt for the “agrarian socialists” of the Country / National party was particularly galling, as well.

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    tonyb

    Australia being comprehensively hacked by China

    https://news.sky.com/story/chinese-hackers-are-sabotaging-key-infrastructure-in-australia-spy-chief-warns-13469027

    We have surely reached the point where infiltration of the West is so deep seated that our banking, communications, transport, water, power etc could be readily taken down in a concerted attack?

    Why are we rushing headlong like cyber lemmings towards the cliff edge of digital dependance? Surely we need to confront our addiction with technology that is laying us open to abuse by hostile governments as well as our own

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    tonyb

    Gulf stream collapsing

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-15283265/Gulf-Stream-fingerprint-ocean-circulation-weaken.html

    A familiar story. Still if it happens it will mean we won’t need to go abroad for skiing and I am sure our Windmills and solar panels will cheaply supply all the power we need to keep us warm

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      David Maddison

      They have been warning about the imminent collapse of the Gulf Stream since 1961.

      The world is not static as Aristotle thought and the Left still thinks and undergoes constant change.

      If it changes, it changes. Even in recorded history we have cold periods like the Little Ice Age. And we have had hot periods like the Minoan, Egyptian, Roman and Medievalwarm periods when Civilisation thrived.

      https://tos.org/oceanography/article/is-the-atlantic-overturning-circulation-approaching-a-tipping-point

      In 1961, US oceanographer Henry Stommel (Stommel, 1961) recognized how the Atlantic waters’ salinity leads to an AMOC tipping point, a phenomenon that made newspaper headlines once again last year and this year.

      * Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC).

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        Steve

        If it changes, it changes.

        Exactly.

        If it changes, then Europe’s migration crisis might finally be solved by all the economic migrants who moved north fleeing back to their original homes to escape the frigid temperatures. Meanwhile, native Europeans can rejoice about all the money they saved by NOT investing in air conditioning.

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        Lestonio

        If the fresh water circulation of the Beaufort Gyre “breaks loose”, then you may only have a few weeks to escape the British Isles.
        You will need to make it to the eastern Mediterranean, or further, and take your gold with you.

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      David Maddison

      will cheaply supply all the power we need to keep us warm

      Herr Starmer’s experiment to block out the sun won’t help there…

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        Graham Richards

        I wonder who is winning the clown of the decade competition!

        Starmer blacking out the sun

        OR

        UN’s Guiteres & his boiling oceans. ????

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      yarpos

      Shirley the GS is impacting the GBR somehow? There must be a catastrophist working up a theory somewhere. I feel a new acronym coming on.

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        Geoff Sherrington

        Yarpos,
        Fine with acronyms so long as you remember that GS also means Geoff Sherrington.

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          TdeF

          If CO2 is not man made, not man controllable, what difference does it make if a little, slow and linear drift in the CO2 equilibrium point causes a little, slow and linear warming? How many people other than skiers want to holiday in colder places? Perhaps we should concentrate on changing the earth’s orbit? Or nutation? Or reduce dust clouds in the galaxy?

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            el+gordo

            Or we could correctly argue that the Holocene is coming to an end, so we should be building more coal fired power stations to avoid CO2 starvation.

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              TdeF

              Still the idea that human caused CO2 is significant in changing atmospheric CO2. It isn’t. All fossil fuel emissions for an entire year at record levels amounts to an increase in total CO2 of only .02%

              And even then the extra CO2 is distributed 50:1 ocean:atmosphere so 98% of this extra CO2 stays in ocean. The long term atmospheric increase is by 0.004% from a year’s fossil fuel. Almost undetectable. Even over 100 years, 0.4% change in CO2 from 0.042% to 0.04216%. No, humans are irrelevant.

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        Ross

        It’s not, and don’t call me Shirley.

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          TdeF

          Some Americans actually say Shirley for surely. It’s funnier in America.

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            Skepticynic

            >Some Americans…
            They surely do, and some Australians say Ashley instead of actually.

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              TdeF

              Didn’t know that. Most accents are laziness. Australians hate the big effort consonants, t, d and r. Orrstraya. Eggnishna. Best seen in the summa.

              I was surprised(supprised) on a visit to a Maori ‘village’ in NZ that the officially Maori alphabet pronounces the ‘e’ as an ‘i’, just like the French who landed first.

              The French language has the letter ‘i’ but it is never pronounced as ‘i’ as in fix. And fish and chips becomes fesh and cheps. And you also get very funny inversion where your patio/deck becomes dick. And the letter ‘e’ becomes ‘er’ in French. And the ‘r’ becomes Scottish ‘rrrrr’. The French hold that English is just badly prounounced English. The English counter that the French can’t spell and don’t pronounce half their letters, most of which are for decoration.

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              Annie

              And too many people say ‘nucular’ when they should be saying ‘nuclear’!

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    David Maddison

    Video.

    This guy is a genius.

    He emulated a 16-bit CPU in Excel, using cell formulae alone, not visual basic.

    https://youtu.be/5rg7xvTJ8SU

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      TdeF

      I thought Excel used VBA

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      RickWill

      Most of my modelling is done with cell formulas in Excel. Some models take a lot of rows and columns.

      My computer bogs down when files get to around 100Mb. Changing a cell value can take more than a minute to ripple through the calculations.

      The beauty of using cells, is that the workings are all in front of you. You can quickly see the interplay by using charts to examine the results.

      I have a single column atmospheric model with 200 layers that uses a macro to goal seek the temperate from ground level to 20,000, So it equilibrates enthalpy based on the temperature and partial pressure of the water for a preset RH It can take more than a minute but it has the macro taking the execution time.

      A spreadsheet is much faster to fault find than serial code.

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      David Maddison

      This is the sort of wonderful content which would interest and benefit smart under 16’s who will soon be banned from accessing it in Australia.

      We are certainly working very hard to earn the moniker The Stupid Country.

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      John Connor II

      Impressive but tedious to write no doubt.
      Reminds me of a friend back in school who wrote a 8008 to Zilog Z80 cross-compiler, on a mainframe (PDP 11-70)
      People mostly left him alone, as no-one understood.😆
      Another friend wrote a language similar to BASIC. People left him alone too.
      I was into cryptography, security (never you mind), and self-replicating code (think early polymorphic computer virus), and everything was coded in BASIC back then. Nothing as formula-powerful as Excel.
      Later on everything I coded was in assembler, but fanfold paper was cheap.
      Oh the stories…

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      Johnny Rotten

      Excellent

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    David Maddison

    Video:

    Buying a train ticket in India.

    It was a lengthy, arduous process for these travel vloggers.

    https://youtu.be/Eyq6k1DOf0c

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    Skepticynic

    “Solar lets you visit. Nuclear lets you build.”
    “NASA is right to pursue an ambitious plan to build a nuclear reactor on the lunar surface by 2030, argue space-policy analyst Bhavya Lal, who held senior roles at NASA, and space engineer and consultant Roger Myers. But the agency must learn from six decades of failures.”

    Issues in Science and Technology
    https://issues.org/space-nuclear-systems-nasa-lal-myers/

    “NASA’s new directive to design, build, and deploy a nuclear reactor on the Moon by 2030 will require a commitment to implementation, leadership from the White House, and learning from six decades of failures.”

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      Steve

      But the agency must learn from six decades of failures

      Nope.

      Not gonna happen.

      Absent an unlimited cold-war ‘space race’ budget, NASA is not fit for purpose. Elon, Bezos, and the rest of the private space entrepreneurs are miles ahead of them and that gap will only widen as time marches on. A fat, bloviated, sclerotic bureaucracy with a budget that is captive to the whims of mercurial elected officials cannot compete with them.

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    Penguinite

    “Liberals prepare to dump net zero after mammoth partyroom meeting. The party is expected to back staying in the Paris agreement without a formal ambition to reach net zero at any stage, with moderate MPs aiming to use the Paris element to claim the Coalition retains a net zero objective”.

    This is too late to save The Liberals from devastation especially since they want to retain Membership of the so called Paris Agreement! Their last chance to save the deckchairs was under Peter Dutton.

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      David Maddison

      They’re even in or out.

      They can’t be both.

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        TdeF

        That’s logical. Not politics where you can support contradictory positions simultaneously.

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          Gazzatron

          Supporting contradictory positions simultaneously (or pretending to) seems to work for Albanese and Labor:
          Destroy the power grid with expensive ruinenables, while simultaneously claiming to be lowing cost of living.
          Destroy Manufacturing and heavy industry while claiming to “invest” in Australian industry and manufacturing.
          Destroy small businesses with sky rocketing electricity and gas prices while claiming to support small businesses.
          It’s their winning formula, the Liberals just need to work on their spin.

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      RickWill

      Peter Dutton was not going to get out of Paris. Nuclear was a placating measure that supported the climate scam.

      The best fuel source in Australia is lignite because it produces the lowest cost electricity. The extra CO2 is just a bonus. That is what needs to be policy. The grid is now capable of ushering a good portion of it northward, southward and westward. Both Tomago and BSL should be primarily run on lignite; paying $30 to $40/MWh.

      I firmly believe that the power supply situation to Broken Hill in the late 1980s was instrumental in forming the national grid. It may have been a grab for Federal power from the States as well but the early years of the national grid resulted in lower cost power because the State monopolies were gone and lignite could be used to power places in NSW and SA without exorbitant wheeling charges being paid to those States for doing nothing.

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        Geoff Sherrington

        Rick,
        We are both old enough to have lived through and been involved with the efficient, low cost, reliable generation of East Australian electricity by burning coal. We know that for every big reason, it is the form that we should have. It attracted major industry then, it can attract it again. It is not new technology, it is so easy to start it up again. As Australia should, while true leaders cut through the anti-nuclear propaganda and invite Sth Korea to start construction here.
        The younger set, women in particular, have little experience with electrical generation types. As we know, they are swayed by propaganda. That is an obvious target, to refute the propaganda much more intensively than now. Takes a lot of money. There must be many quite wealthy Aussies who could step up, but who mostly have not. IMO, they are committing economic self-suicide. I do not know how to make it all better, I have no access to money any more.
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          RickWill

          That is an obvious target, to refute the propaganda much more intensively than now. Takes a lot of money.

          Two of the most influential women in Australia, one also the wealthiest, were at Trumps all saints eve dinner party. Maybe these are two woman who will get the message out.

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          Lawrie

          Advance Australia is now simply called Advance. It was instrumental in defeating the Voice and during the last election helped to unseat three Lower House Greens, including Adam Bandt. It has over 40,000 members and has over 400,000 donors. It must be a thorn in the side of Labor because the AFR recently did a hit piece describing the 47% of dark money that has been flooding in. The average donation is $42. Any donation under $1500 does not have to be declared.

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          Hanrahan

          Something that is overlooked is that our traditional methods of generation are mature technologies. Without wanting to detract from design engineers, their work would be mostly site specific and any incremental technologies they want to incorporate.

          It ain’t so with wind solar. Those guys are forced to trust the glossy pamphlets provided by the manufacturers and like miners, manufacturers EXAGERATE.

          Son has been a sparky on solar farms for a few years, and while everything works originally, not everything lasts as long or performs as it should. Let’s not mention windmill gearboxes.

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        TdeF

        Brown coal is supposed to be the ‘dirtiest’ of fuels, when it is no such thing.

        Lignite in Victoria is 66% water. In Germany it is closer to peat at 80%. So you cook the figures to show the lowest energy output per ton.

        But once the water is removed, it’s the same old plant matter plus some dirt and the CO2 per ton of old plants is very similar. In fact the heat output per kg is very close to anthracite/black coal from Newcastle. That is where our old briquette manufacture should shine for exports and domestic use.

        A Melbourne company at Bacchus Marsh invented and patented a cheap and fast way to remove the water. This was done in partnership with Monash university. And they had a $400million order from India and it was forbidden by the Bracks government. Climate Change.

        Governments, run by incompetent lawyers, cannot get anything right. My neighbour says the great power of all governments is stopping things and making progress, if any, excruciatingly difficult. They are most clever when dreaming up new ways to steal your money.

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          Ross

          Plus there’s the possible light oil that can be extracted from Victorian lignite. Each tonne of lignite can produce over 1.1 barrels of light oil. Some parts of the lignite, like phenols, are already being used as a soil enhancer. The carbon in the lignite can also be turned into graphene. Victoria’s lignite could make it extremely wealthy by providing a huge, low-cost source of oil and other valuable materials. We’ve only got 33 billion tonnes of it, after all.

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            Ross mentions this:

            We’ve only got 33 billion tonnes of it, after all.

            Hmm! That’s a bit of a problem right there.

            The average large scale (2000+MW) coal fired power plant will burn around 5.5 million tonnes a year.

            So, if we were to build three in Victoria and three in NSW, we would run out of coal in, umm, one thousand years.

            (Do I really need to add the /s)

            Tony.

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              TdeF

              Imagine if Saudi Arabia decided to stop oil exports because of climate change? The world would explode. The family of Saud would be gone in days.

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                TdeF

                No one overseas cares if Australia indulges in massive self harm exercises. We are considered too stupid to understand reality. And a country in which Chris Bowen has a job.

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              Ross

              Haha- Tony , 33b is the easily accessible stuff. There’s heaps more in eastern part of the state and I believe extends under Bass Strait. Let’s use a more technical term – oodles😀

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                Best for Victoria really.

                NSW and Qld have oodles of access to the good quality ‘black stuff’. (well, best in the World quality anyway)

                Now, if only we could explain UltraSuperCritical to politicians.

                Tony.

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              Hanrahan

              At the rate they’re going it will take 1,000 yrs to get thorium reactors commercial.

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          Lawrie

          A news item this morning informed us of the 88000 increase in public servants across the three level of government in the last year. None of these are front line workers, but hive drones, who do perform necessary tasks. In the same news we learnt that farmers in Victoria are being fined for cutting a native bush to extract its oil. The plant recovers and is ready to harvest again twelve months later. The genii in some department classify the harvest as destruction of native vegetation. I am of the opinion that the more public servants the less prosperity. A government that puts lots of PS out to pasture would make private enterprise more productive simply by removing red tape and the means to enforce it.

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          More the point, Victorian lignite, like Bass Strait oil, is very, very low in sulfur so it doesn’t need to be scrubbed from the smoke the way other sources need to do it.

          It’s actually not “the dirtiest” coal around, it is some of the cleanest.

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    Penguinite

    https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/secret-documents-reveal-alleged-labor-plot-behind-controversial-24-million-brittany-higgins-payout/news-story/728854f79280beff2360bf0df34600dc
    Secret documents reveal alleged Labor plot behind Higgins payout
    Previously secret documents have surfaced showing the alleged tactics Labor used which denied Linda Reynolds of her defence against Brittany Higgins’ claims of a political cover-up, which ultimately resulted in Ms Higgins receiving a $2.4 million Commonwealth payout.

    What an absolute stich-up that was perpetrated by Labor, initially to compromise Scomo Liberals immediately prior to a Federal Election, with Labor Femme fatales Penny Wong and Katy Gallagher who ran a tag team in Senate Question Time solely to bully and vilify Linda Reynolds neither of whom live up to the full visagic meaning but surpass the “maneater, Mata Hari character” whose job it was to secure a favorable financial settlement with Higgings that finally agreed at 2.4 million of our Tax $$$. They purposefully excluded Linda Reynolds with duplicity by Government Lawyers and Higgings legal team.

    in the event Labor have been caught with their slacks down and will lead to another huge financial settlement with Reynolds.

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      Ted1

      If your parliamentary opposition was not tied down on Net Zero this would bring down the government.

      How low can a supposed democracy get?

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      Vladimir

      Mister P,
      Thanks for still remembering this, as I see – greatest Australian political scandal of XXI century.
      However, we should be grateful that both main players have outed themselves and will have no political careers.
      They could’ve became next Turnbulls…

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      Geoff Sherrington

      Penguinite,
      I find it astounding that a Judge said in effect that only two people know if Brittany Higgins was raped by Bruce Lehrmann, then through the formal legal system, a Judge found that he had, thus starting this stupid convoluted sequence.
      How on Earth was this decision allowed to stand? I do not believe that any Judge is clairvoyant.
      Geoff S

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    David Maddison

    The problem with most Australian politicians is that they are remarkably poorly informed about the world, have few or no hobbies or interests beyond their own self-aggrandisement, are products of the dumbed-down “education” system which has been in place since the late 1960’s and early 1970’s and many are genuinely stupid.

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      Rusty of Qld

      That Long March through the institutions has been spectacularly successful hasn’t it Dave.
      Do you think it can be reversed?

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      TdeF

      And evil combination of stupidity and greed. But none more than Chris Bowen who is wrecking Australia to save the world. Even if the fantasy was all true what he is doing is insane.

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    Penguinite

    How pathetic is this?
    https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/abc-cries-foul-broadcaster-claims-it-is-the-victim-of-smear-campaign-after-editing-scandal-in-allstaff-email/news-story/1ecdb927605e5020430f4c5061c1cef3

    ABC cries foul: Broadcaster claims it is the victim of ‘smear campaign’ after editing scandal
    ABC Managing Director David Anderson and news boss Justin Stevens hit back at what they called “opportunistic” attempts by Sky News to conflate their own reporting failures with the recent crisis at the BBC. Just days after admitting to doctoring a photo of a prominent politician, the ABC’s embattled news bosses have taken an extraordinary swipe at critics, arguing they are victims of a smear campaign.

    Systemic anti Liberal/Trump bias abounds at “Our ABC” but unless they admit it the bias will be perpetuated ad infinitum!

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      David Maddison

      Their ABC is just as guilty as the BBC of propagating fake news including the reporting of Hamas terrorist propaganda as fact, anything to do with “climate change”, lies about TRUMP and conservatives in general, support of the Covid 19 Official Narrative, promotion of the alphabet agenda, and support of excessive and inappropriate immigration of unskilled people and those thst dont accept Australian or Western values etc..

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        Ted1

        Nobody kicks a cow in the head. All that will get you is a broken foot. Cows’ heads are hard and heavy and accustomed to bashing each other.

        But the ABC’s 4 Corners program showed a video of a bloke kicking at a cow’s head, for the clear purpose of enraging viewers. They got their result when Gillard stopped live exports to Indonesia. That action had far reaching effects. including taking us into a very bad drought overstocked.

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          farmerbraun

          Kicking at someone’s head is almost invariably( I said almost) a red card in rugby , which is a contact sport.
          The censure should have been directed at the idiot who did it.
          The usual remedy in Godzone is to ban such people from being in charge of animals.

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          Ross

          Don’t get me started on the ABC and their regional /farming media coverage. When the subject of the ABC comes up (as it has recently with the Trump speech edit thing) there’s always loud cries for its abolition. Or people want it to become a subscription service. All fine by me. But then a lot of city based commentators will say, restrict their news coverage etc but keep the regional service. Then they will say things like “we love Landline, and watch it every Sunday and it keeps us up with all the country goings on”. Or something similar. Then they will say Muster Dogs is ABC and shows what country life is like as well. Which all makes me vomit, because the ABC keeps portraying rural country life like everyone in rural Australia are sucking on a grass stem and standing around in their bib and brace overalls. Being cute. Whereas regional/ rural/ farm life is tougher than most urban life, ever dependent on the weather and farming is restricted by global demand. Plus, at the end of the day, farming is a business, not a lifestyle. Their coverage of aboriginal Australia is also something similar- forget about the child ratings, let’s convert all the place names to original aboriginal language instead. ( Rant over )

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            Well said. The ABC covers country fairs, but never asks the farmers what they think of Net Zero.

            All the trivial country stories are just a cover.

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            Annie

            I used to watch Landline many years ago. We went off to England for 11 years and I couldn’t believe how changed it was when we returned. I never bother with it now. If I am at home I watch Outsiders.

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      Who remembers the famous video widely repeated on the ABC during Keating’s campaign against Hewson that showed a bunch of school girls running up the the fence of their fancy inner Sydney school and screaming for Keating like he was a rock star?

      That entire scene was set up by the ABC “news” crew who were trailing Keating that day.

      The Hewson GST cake disaster was also set up by the ABC “news” crew who were covering Hewson.

      The ABC has been creating political “news” in this country since at least the early ’90s, and you’ve got to remember that Bob Hawke criticized them for being too leftard while he was PM. They haven’t gotten any better since then.

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    David Maddison

    Victoriastanis, the second parliament gets signed into law today, the First People’s Asssmbly.

    Unlike the present one, you don’t get to vote for this one.

    And participation is race-specific as in any other Apartheid system.

    Enjoy.

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      wal1957

      THE VOICE referendum resulted in a resounding NO from the people.
      If the politicians are not going to abide by the result of the referendum why have it?

      Proving once again that politicians could care less what the voter wants.

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        Ross

        We all know, that if there had been no referendum and the VOICE was decided by federal politicians voting, it would now already be legislated. Plus, they would be all patting themselves on the back, saying what a great job they had done. There’s something now essentially broken in the Australian version of the Westminster system. Maybe it always was, and now I ( and perhaps many others ) have come to the same conclusion.

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          wal1957

          I would love to say I disagree with you Ross.
          But I don’t.
          And that’s pretty sad.

          A lot of politicians are not in the game for the right reasons.
          The result is what we have today.
          As you said – an essentially broken system

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      Gob

      Think of it as the Sorcery Annex to the Victorian parliament and ask how long will it take for internal divisions to convulse this civil absurdity; australia’s blacks have always fought among themselves and today their advocates have the effrontery to refer to fragments of a people that are barely tribes as “nations”.

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    David Maddison

    Just another day in lawless Melbournistan.

    https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/former-afl-tribunal-advocate-iain-findlays-sickening-injuries-revealed-after-road-rage-attack-c-20655802

    Former AFL tribunal advocate Iain Findlay’s sickening injuries revealed after road rage attack

    The much-loved 77-year-old was run over and then dragged along the freeway for about 80 metres.

    Much-loved AFL identity Iain “Fingers” Findlay has suffered sickening injuries after a wild road rage attack on Melbourne’s Monash Freeway.

    The former team manager for Essendon, Fitzroy (Lions), South Melbourne (Sydney) and Victoria — and former AFL tribunal advocate — was the victim of a brazen road rage attack last Thursday night and is still in hospital.

    “A guy pulled up and threw a rock at the car so I tried to push him over to the side to get his details,” Findlay told gun 7NEWS reporter Xander McGuire.

    “And as I got out of the car, he gunned his car straight at me, smashed into me, trapped me and travelled for about 80 metres with me underneath the car.”

    SEE LINK FOR REST

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Consultant Class Belatedly Recognizes Energy Realities”

    “A new report from McKinsey & Company, the “Global Energy Perspective,” lays bare what many of us – dismissed as “climate deniers” – have been asserting all along: Coal, oil and natural gas will continue to be the dominant sources of global energy well past 2050.”

    More at

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/11/12/consultant-class-belatedly-recognizes-energy-realities/

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      David of Cooyal in Oz

      Thanks a i,
      Great news, and I particularly like:

      In places such as India, Southeast Asia and sub-Saharan Africa, the top energy priorities are access, affordability and reliability, which together add up to national security. Planners are acutely aware of a trap: Sole reliance on weather-dependent power risks blackouts, industrial disruption, economic decline and civil unrest.

      Cheers,
      Dave B

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      David of Cooyal in Oz

      I wonder which of the MSM mob will be first to sing its praises of this analysis?
      ABC?
      SMH?

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    another ian

    FWIW

    On the one hand –

    on-line Courier Mail headline (behind the Murdoch wall to me)

    “Trump knew about the girls’: bombshell Epstein files released”

    On the other hand

    “And With That Development, the Dems’ Latest Trump-Epstein Stunt Has Imploded”

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2025/11/12/after-losing-the-shutdown-fight-dems-circle-back-to-failed-trump-epstein-files-shenanigans-n2666325

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      another ian

      And

      “The Democrats’ Latest Trump-Epstein ‘Bombshell’ Actually Vindicates Trump”

      https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/11/12/the-democrats-latest-trump-epstein-smear-actually-vindicates-trump-n4945915

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      Steve

      Karoline Levitt delivered one of the most brutal media takedowns I have seen in my life today from the press secretary’s podium.

      https://x.com/CurtisHouck/status/1988680659741639160

      .@PressSec @KarolineLeavitt to CBS’s @Weijia Jiang on today’s House Oversight release of the #EpsteinFiles: “These emails prove absolutely nothing other than the fact that President Trump did nothing wrong. And what President Trump has always said is that he was from Palm Beach and so was Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein was a member at Mar a Lago until President Trump kicked him out because Jeffrey Epstein was a pedophile and he was a creep. In this email you refer to with the name of a victim that was unredacted now and has since been reported on in this room, SO I will go ahead and say it. Virginia Giuffre. And it was CBS’s own reporting, Weija, that recently wrote that Miss Giuffre maintained, in God rest her soul, that she maintained that there was nothing inappropriate she ever witnessed, that President Trump was always extremely professional and friendly to her. And so, I think it’s a question worth asking the Democrat Party, and you should all go ask them after this briefing of why they chose to redact that name of a victim who has already publicly made statements about her relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, is — and is unfortunately no longer with us.”

      I love that she threw the reporter’s own network’s reporting back in her face, then gave her a bit of homework to go ask the Democrats why they decided to redact the witnesses name when it is already public knowledge. We know why they did it .. to obscure the fact that the witness already exonerated Trump in a sworn deposition. If Jiang were worth her salt, she would skewer the democrats for intentionally misleading voters. But of course, like all corporate media hacks today, she will quietly memory-hole the whole episode and never mention it again rather than follow up.

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Electric School Bus SNAFU in Montgomery County, MD”

    https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2025/11/12/electric-school-bus-snafu-in-montgomery-county-md-n3808825

    One could say “A bit of a BUSt?”

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      David Maddison

      Get woke.

      Go broke.

      Every. Single. Time.

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      The problems electric vehicles have with cold weather is actually mirrored by a different, but also temperature related problem in hot weather.

      In above 35 degree temperatures the batteries don’t put out as much power, so you have to push the engines harder to get the same performance out of them, thus draining the batteries faster.

      I was watching a Twitch IRL stream in Austin, Tx, where they were in a Tesla and needed to get it charged and the bloke in the passenger seat asked how much range did the 10% charge showing represent and was told by the driver and owner that it was about 10 miles. Temperature in Austin that day? You guessed it, not down around zero, 98F.

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    David Maddison

    Remember, when the climate scam eventually collapses, don’t forgive any of its proponents.

    It is inexcusable not to know the truth

    All the information is out there.

    Seek prosecutions and reparations for the enormous harm they have done.

    Wishful thinking, I know. But we can dream…

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      Honk R Smith

      It may fade.
      But no collapse.
      The elites have created a special little world for themselves.
      They are certainly losing the cooperation of the peasants at a quickening pace.
      (But their successful strategy of demonizing one particular ethnic group will continue to keep this under control.)
      And the cash flow upward continues apace.
      Their bubble world is likely safe for the foreseeable future.
      Actually, it’s pretty much their world and we’re just living in it.

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    RickWill

    TdeF might like this one:
    Ryan Stokes has called on the Federal Government to reconsider a key plank of its climate policy regime, describing the safeguard mechanism as a de facto tax.

    https://thewest.com.au/business/energy/beach-energy-chair-ryan-stokes-calls-on-federal-government-to-review-safeguard-mechanism–c-20657183

    I take the view all CO2 demonising needs to stop. Praise the Lord that humans are able to restore the atmospheric level of CO2 as long as we keep burning the remains of the lifeforms that gobbled it up in the past. Keep Earth’s life cycle going in a higher gear.

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      David Maddison

      Good news. Good find Rick.

      Awareness of this horrific 35% tax on the top 200 companies is finally getting out.

      Thanks TdeF for raising awareness.

      I haven’t heard the fake conservative Liberals say a word about it.

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      Hanrahan

      as we keep burning the remains of the lifeforms that gobbled it up in the past.

      A point that should be made more often: All the CO2 locked away in fossil fuels today was once in the atmosphere. Why didn’t seas boil then?

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        RexAlan

        It’s called recycling a life giving gas so the plants can use it more than once. The greens should love it.

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          TdeF

          I suspect there will be less and less CO2. Do you want a real CO2 scare?

          Lifeforms evolved to use Calcium to provide structure to organism, shells for snails, soft bodied sea animals for protection. Oysters, scallops, trilobytes.

          And now all the coral, white cliffs of Dover, limestone floors across the planet are made by living organisms, now dead. But the CO2 has been locked up forever by combination with Calcium from seawater. Calcium carbonate is the one stone which is not just weathered rock but rock made from CO2. And CO2 levels are at record lows for all recorded time. I blame the molluscs.

          The Nullarbor plain is limestone. The great plateau under Odessa. The area of Paris, France. Rheims. All built on limestone. Perhaps half of England.

          I fear life on earth may run out of CO2 and so out of food as sea animals keep fixing CO2 with Calcium to make rock. That would be the end. The current tiny increase in CO2 may be the last. Our only hope for continuing life on earth is continuing warming or we could face a dead world with a the ocean floor lined with limestone/marble/coral. The Great Barrier Reef is the size of Germany. It is not fragile. Coral atolls are generally 3.5km tall solid coral.

          And here we are trying to limit CO2 when we are running out of fossil fuels. We should be making more concrete and freeing the CO2 from limestone and burning a lot of fossil fuel to do it. I’m at least half serious.

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Trump Says He Has Obligation To Sue BBC For ‘Defrauding The Public’ With Jan. 6 Speech Edits”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-says-he-has-obligation-sue-bbc-defrauding-public-jan-6-speech-edits

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      RickWill

      Why isn’t he going after their Australian Broadcasting Commission. The reporter that asked that stupid question about his personal finances when he sorting out a ceasefire in Gaza should be gone by now.

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      RickWill

      Is anyone fed up with Trump always being proven correct and winning?

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        Graeme No.3

        Not really, but look at the opposition to him.
        Even Dumbo could fly, but the Left cannot get off the ground while they campaign against gravity being biased.

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        Honk R Smith

        “Is anyone fed up with Trump always being proven correct and winning?”

        The Dems pretty much swept the recent election cycle.
        The state of Virginia, just elected an attorney general that mused about the murder of political opponents and their children.
        A white female former CIA COVID hysteric became governor.
        Her opponent was an African American woman.

        NYC, former Mecca of the Capitalist world, elected a ‘socialist’ mayor that has never had a job.

        The elite become ever richer, and their children rise to power without any experience as if it’s the late Feudal period.

        The odd thing is Trump.
        They hate him.
        But he is actually one of them.
        Methinks that means something, though I’m not sure what.

        Trump’s failing will be the economy.
        He wants to ‘win’, but it’s likely impossible.
        The system has been built on fiat inflation, and can only keep inflating to failure.
        You will own nothing.
        Most people below the educated elite class such as myself, are fast approaching the breaking point with food prices, not even counting the other costs of living.
        As one side of the expert elite tell us what we experience isn’t happening.
        In my Democrat controlled state, taxes are constantly raised, “for the school children” and the school system gets ever worse decade after decade.
        This years worsening stats just means more tax money is required “for the children”.
        Trump’s declarations of ‘winning’ on the economy are increasing falling on frightened deafened ears.
        Ears that that the elite on both sides of the political class viscerally and openly hold in contempt.

        Moreover, I think many of the global corporations will artificiality keep prices high to damage Trump.
        To stop the threat to Democracy caused by democracy.

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    david

    TdeF

    You are in fine form this morning!

    I love it. Keep it up!

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “We Don’t Need No Flaming Sparky Cars”

    “China’s EV Market Is Imploding

    In China, you can buy a heavily discounted “used” electric car that has never, in fact, been used. Chinese automakers, desperate to meet their sales targets in a bitterly competitive market, sell cars to dealerships, which register them as “sold,” even though no actual customer has bought them. Dealers, stuck with officially sold cars, then offload them as “used,” often at low prices. The practice has become so prevalent that the Chinese Communist Party is trying to stop it. Its main newspaper, The People’s Daily, complained earlier this year that this sales-inflating tactic “disrupts normal market order,” and criticized companies for their “data worship.” ”

    https://archive.is/7ur5M

    Via https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2025/11/12/we-dont-need-no-flaming-sparky-cars-217/

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    Ross

    COP30 (10 Nov –> 21 Nov 2025), has begun with representatives from more than 190 countries arriving in the Brazilian city of Belém. They will spend two weeks deep in negotiations on how to control the weather, or as they explain, “dangerous global warming”. No doubt this gabfest will promote articles from Jo and I’m sure most will be hilarious. But it’s basically a huge pysop, isn’t it? Talk about mis, dis and malformation – we’ll get all 3 from COP30. The spin doctors and the climate warmist bots will be going full bore on social media and the mainstream media. No US administration representatives are going, only Gavin Newsom (Governor of California). Which says a lot. I’m expecting large coverage from their ABC, CH7:9, Guardian and the SMH/Melbourne Age. Because of the enormity of this event, coverage will then extend to other media as well. But because I don’t consume any of the “left” media and only minor bits of other media, I’m going to remain blissfully ignorant. Which is what we all should do. Here’s hoping it rains for 2 weeks in Belem.

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    John Connor II

    Pensioners crushed as healthcare premiums increase 4,275%

    Open enrollment for Affordable Care Act (ACA) health plans began Wednesday in Idaho, giving the rest of the nation an early look at how steeply premiums are expected to climb in 2026.

    Bob McMichael, 63, and his wife, Leslie, 62, say they already know they won’t be able to keep their plan. The retired couple, who earn about $42,000 annually, currently pay just $51 per month for their ACA plan. But last month, they received a notice stating their monthly premium would skyrocket to $2,232 next year without the federal subsidies.

    https://wtfdetective.blog/idaho-retirees-premiums-soar-after-trump-gop-gut-aca/

    Horrific!
    But I came across an interesting graphic the other day showing US top employer in 1990 vs 2024.
    Well now, that’s interesting!
    And no doubt reflected worldwide.
    What happened to manufacturing you ask?

    https://imgbox.com/HoXpR3bb

    We seem to be staring down the barrel of GFC 2 in 2026, far worse than 2008. Can’t imagine how the less fortunate will make it.
    Expect political skullduggery as usual, seizing and taxing more of everything you have…

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      RickWill

      That is quite a lot more than I pay in Australia.

      My son is a physician and he could see value in someone like RFK Jr making USA healthy again. But then there was a big deal during the campaign with Trump serving at Maccas and my son felt USA was a lost cause. RFK would have an uphill battle improving the diet.

      Among some of my son’s interesting tasks is locating scanning machines big enough for heavy patients to fit through the aperture. But he has not resorted to sending any to the zoo for scanning as I believe happens in the USA.

      This is from the UK:

      The Royal Veterinary College, in Royal College Street, confirmed its CT scanners – custom-designed for horses to stand up in – have been used by NHS patients.

      The move comes as hospitals enter into a programme of reinforcing beds and widening wheelchairs to suit Camden’s heavier population, with experts warning that being overweight has become “the norm”.

      https://www.camdennewjournal.co.uk/article/too-heavy-nhs-patients-are-sent-vets-scans-royal-veterinary-college-say-obese-have-had

      But I have seen stories in the USA but sources not s reputable.

      Maccas had their worst Q1 result this year since 2020 and Covid. So either there is less money or more healthy eating. Or fewer illegals.

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    Jon Rattin

    Where’s our global warming?

    https://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/melbourne-shivers-through-coldest-november-day-in-80-years/1891004

    Is there the equivalent of a carbon credits scheme for global warming? In Victoriastan, we need to borrow some from another nation to take the chill out of the air. It’s almost Summer and we need the season to resemble its former self.

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    John Connor II

    Target makes disturbing demand of staff in a bid to boost flagging sales: ‘Another reason to shop elsewhere’

    ‘Tis the season to be jolly — especially if you work at Target.

    The retailer wants employees to keep their spirits bright and their smiles tighter as the holiday rush hits full speed.

    Indeed, Target has imposed new rules on employees in an effort to spark some festive cheer up and down the superstore’s aisles.

    Employees were told that if a shopper comes within 10 feet of them, they must smile.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/yourmoney/article-15277813/target-staff-rules-holiday-sales.html

    Ya, ya! Ze staff must smile at ze kustomer or be vipped!😆

    https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/terminator/images/7/76/Terminator_gives_the_smile_a_chance_in_T2.jpg/revision/latest

    Management as usual have no idea of body language and how easily customers can spot fake sentiment.
    The floggings will continue until morale improves.
    The joys of wage-slave retail…
    It must be close to xmas as the Easter stuff is going on display too!

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    John Connor II

    A Mercedes ad from 2017

    https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_t5m25uNL3P1z23obp.mp4

    Meanwhile at Jaguar…gorillas in frocks.😆

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    TdeF

    “Coalition dumping net zero puts Pacific security at risk, says Albanese”

    What? So Pacific island nations are concerned about opposing China if we do not hand over cash and prevent the seas from rising. These are largely coral atolls up to 3.5km deep built as mountains rose and fell. They have survived ice ages and a 100metre rise in sea level, but are now threatened by airconditioning? We need to save them buy driving 5 million Chinese electric cars according to the Albanese Bowen brains trust.

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      Ross

      It’s amazing that the lie about the Pacific Islands sinking is still entrenched in political circles. It’s been debunked so many times, I’ve lost count. Yet it persists and no doubt will be trotted out again at COP30.

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        John B

        “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”
        Joseph Goebbels

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    OldOzzie

    US Secretary of State – Marco Rubio – a Politican totally across his Briefs!

    Secretary of State Marco Rubio holds a press conference with the traveling State Dept press pool following the G7 foreign ministers meeting.

    Secretary Rubio was questioned about Russia’s attacks on Ukraine and the EU position against the USA on the narco terrorist strikes toward Central America.

    Secretary Rubio sets the record straight. WATCH: 33 Mins 07 Secs

    Listening while reading – An amazing Guy

    With Rubio & Vance following on from President Trump, America will be well served

    then when your compare to our Australian Labor Idiots

    Labor Fence Sitter Wong & Labor PM Flyaway Albo

    To Paraphrse Gough Whitlam

    “Well may we say ‘God save the Queen’, because nothing will save Australia Under Labor”

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    another ian

    FWIW- Things to consider when you vent!

    “Venting Doesn’t Reduce Anger, But Something Else Does, Study Discovers”

    “Calming activities reduced anger in the lab and the field, they found, and across other variables like methods of instruction or participant demographics. Effective arousal-reducing activities included slow-flow yoga, mindfulness, progressive muscle relaxation, diaphragmatic breathing, and taking a timeout.”

    (My bold)

    https://www.sciencealert.com/venting-doesnt-reduce-anger-but-something-else-does-study-discovers

    I’ll take that as support for my

    “When the job is getting testy and you might start throwing things it is time to go and have a pee strategy”!

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      News at 11, the sky is blue.

      This is not new, it’s been known since well before I was at uni 45 years ago.

      Venting only works if it is physical, ie, you go and beat the living snot out of something, pump some iron really hard, go for a punishing run.

      Simply ranting and raving provides no catharsis.

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    another ian

    FWIW – some “topping up of the glass”

    “Worried”

    Concludes

    “Does this mean I don’t worry? People. I’m a nervibore. I live on my nerves. of course I worry.

    But I fact check my worries. And right now the prognosis is cautiously optimistic, but frustrated.”

    https://accordingtohoyt.com/2025/11/12/worried/

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    Steve of Cornubia

    Another sign that the EV fantasy is losing the battle against reality, in the form of market resistance: EV maker ‘Polestar’, which is marketed as a Swedish company when in fact it is, to all intents and purposes Chinese, has been struggling for some time – a consequence of poor quality and the aforementioned low demand.

    Now, with their stock price in freefall, they have announced a ‘reverse stock split’. This is a transparent attempt to hide the abysmal stock price (so low now that they were threatened with de-listing). All it means is that (for instance) four one-dollar shares are ‘combined’ into a single four-dollar share, or somethig like that. Thus they hope to avoid being kicked out of the exchange. This doesn’t bode well for Polestar, nor the already weakening EV market more broadly. The stock market saw through the ruse and immediately Polestar shares fell by a further 12%, to just $0.22/share.

    Even quite recently, various motoring magazines/sites were still shamelessly hyping Polestar and its products, revealing (to those who didn’t already know) how corrupted by ad revenue they are.

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Argentinian Reform: Subsoil Privatization (Javier Milei, meet Guillermo Yeatts)”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/11/12/argentinian-reform-subsoil-privatization-javier-milei-meet-guillermo-yeatts-2/

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “California Data Centers Lie Dormant As American Power Supply Shot To Hell”

    “Some artificial intelligence (AI) data centers are vacant in California because the local utility cannot provide the electricity required to operate them, according to Bloomberg.”

    More at

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/11/12/california-data-centers-lie-dormant-as-american-power-supply-shot-to-hell/

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    OldOzzie

    And we wonder why Australia is going down the Drain

    The fortune-teller, the Dover Heights mansion and the alleged $70m fraud

    A woman claiming to be a fortune-teller and feng shui master has been arrested and charged with facilitating $70 million worth of fraud for what is alleged to be one of the biggest financial crime syndicates in Australian history.

    Police allege 53-year-old Anya Phan, who was on Wednesday morning arrested at her $13 million Dover Heights mansion alongside her 25-year-old daughter, Thi Ta, used her position within the Vietnamese community to recruit mules for the so-called Penthouse Syndicate.

    Property records show one half of the Dover Heights duplex detectives arrested Phan at was purchased for $13.75 million in June this year by a private company, Phan Holdings Group Pty Limited, with a NAB mortgage.

    Records held by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC) list Phan, who was born in Vietnam and moved to Australia in 2001, as the sole director and secretary of Phan Holdings Group. The company was registered with ASIC on May 16 this year with the other half of the duplex listed as its address.

    Phan had been receiving Disability Support Pension payments for the past two decades

    What am I missing here in the 2 Bolded Bits above?

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      Kalm Keith

      Thanks for posting this OO: absolutely disgusting on several fronts.
      How is it that Australia’s social security, the Australian tax office, the real estate rental system , the Australian health system., banking system etc could not stop this right at the beginning?

      The answer, of course, is that the system as a whole is dysfunctional and bribe prone.

      Unlimited welfare, and failure to enforce moral behaviour may create good vote harvesting, but in the end we suffer.

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    another ian

    FWIW – for the covid record

    “CIA Met With Ralph Baric In 2015 To Discuss “Coronavirus Evolution And Possible Human Adaptation”: Emails”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cia-met-ralph-baric-2015-discuss-coronavirus-evolution-and-possible-human-adaptation

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    RickWill

    My response to Geoff S above regarding the tactics being used in schools to scare the children regarding Climate Change™ as being nothing short of what Hitler did with the German youth deserves more attention.

    There are companies producing videos on the climate scam for primary school. The curriculum hs been taken over by climate zealots doing God’s work. Very similar to Hitler youth being part of the master race. None of it is grounded in science and those of us who know that it is unscientific propaganda should be taking it tio the schools.

    It is something that the education minister should be taking action on. Almost everyone in Germany back in 1930 thought Hitler was doing the right thing. They certainly complied.

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      Ross

      Just been watching some NBA during lunchtime on KAYO. Ad breaks contain a lot of government advertising, most notably today one regarding the U16’s social media ban. Perhaps you have seen it on other platforms? Probably the sort of thing, Joseph Goebells would have been proud of. It depicts teenagers in a lot of situations totally obsessed with their phones. Looking at their phones when they should be studying, helping cook the evening meal, playing sport or doing other outdoor activities. You know, being naughty on Facegram etc. Then there’s a depiction of what happens after December 10 with all those same teenagers happily engaged in all those activities, without their phones. Magic!!!! It’s so puerile, it’s not funny. All that the LNP have to do is pledge to reverse this crazy legislation, blame Labor for its introduction and a lot of these young people might actually vote LNP when they reach 18 yo.

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    RickWill

    This is Sky News on LNP dumping NetZero:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsISKEn-7t8

    Comments are interesting because the majority are suggesting Paris needs to go as well.

    So LNP are not going to gain much ground here. Only Now Nation have been heading in the right direction. And it is showing in the polls.

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    TdeF

    Front page of the Australian. The photo shows Conservative politicians arrive in a block. Five of them!
    Jessica Collins,Angus Taylor, Sarah Henderson, Andrew Hastie, Jacinta Price of 28 against Nett Zero.
    17 for.
    5 undecided.
    I hope they read Jo’s blog.
    37 years of pretend science has to stop!
    The sky is not falling.

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      It’s not 37 years, it goes back over 40.

      I was assured in the last week of 1986 that atmospheric CO2 levels had reached runaway greenhouse levels in March of that year – by a CSIRO meteorologist who was dead serious.

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    TdeF

    Don’t read the polls. Look at the referendum. The institutions have fallen. And still 2/3rds of Australians disagreed with the Prime Minister. Whoever destroys fake Climate Change and out of control inappropriate migration will be heroes.

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    another ian

    FWIW

    Via Mathew Sheahan

    Liberals dump “Nut Zero”

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Australia’s Shock Defense Wake-up Call”

    https://www.asiasentinel.com/p/australias-shock-defense-wake-up

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “German Energy Professor: COP 30 Is A Failure…”Only Europe Remains Committed” ”

    “Only 1/3 of the states actually submit a plan

    For the Climate Conference in Belém, states had to report on their future plans for the use of coal, oil, and gas. The fact that only one-third even submitted a statement already hints at the dissolving importance of the climate issue in most nations around the world. But the reports that were submitted are revealing. Most states reported continuously increasing use of coal, oil, and gas. The reports show an increase in global coal usage by 30%, oil by 25%, and gas by 40% by 2030 compared to 2015. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) hoped to reduce global CO2 emissions by 45% by 2030 compared to 2015; now they are continuing to rise.

    Only Europe onboard”

    More at

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/11/12/german-energy-professor-cop-30-is-a-failureonly-europe-remains-committed/

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    another ian

    FWIW

    Trump vs BBC

    “Yeah, we don’t care if Trump wins or not. The president would love to win, obviously, but the process is the punishment. ”

    In

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2025/11/12/trump-says-hes-obligated-to-sue-this-outlet-over-their-outrageous-j6-editing-scandal-n2666213

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    Environment Sceptic

    A pic from last night of the aurora in Gippsland Victoria around 9pm from memory, portraying an infinitesimal particle of the majesty of our solar system.

    Used a 10 second shutter speed and ISO around 1000 using a Sony A7Rii and 24mm Sigma lens.

    Looking south in other pics, there was a faint but human eye visible green hue closest to the horizon.

    https://imgur.com/58RNNqp

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    MeAgain

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2025-11-13/what-is-fluoride-and-why-is-it-in-water/105944202

    The simplest intervention, Dr Dickson-Swift says, is to brush your teeth with a fluoride toothpaste twice a day — and avoid rinsing your mouth out afterwards.

    “The minute you rinse your mouth, you’re rinsing the fluoride off your teeth.”

    What utter rubbish – the rinsing is as important for good dental hygiene as the brushing is. It is as much about the gums and the whole cavity as the tooth pegs themselves.

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    MeAgain

    Why the costs of natural disasters may rise without there being an actual increase in the number or scale of natural disasters…

    https://www.kqed.org/news/11681280/cleaning-up-inside-the-wildfire-debris-removal-job-that-cost-taxpayers-1-3-billion

    If you play to clear debris by weight, you end up with holes that need to be filled in where the ‘debris’ was….

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