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    American soccer scores a massive own goal.

    “The US women’s soccer team were preparing to play a game against Mexico but when the American national anthem was being played, members of the team turned their back. What made it particularly egregious was the anthem was being played not by a massed band but on a simple harmonica by a 98-year-old veteran of WWII.”

    Read more at – https://thepointman.wordpress.com/2021/07/17/american-soccer-scores-a-massive-own-goal/

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      Scissor

      There’s more to the story, Pointman. I don’t know what the truth is, but the federation/team says that some players were facing different flags in different parts of the stadium and no disrespect was intended. The official statement is plausible, maybe even likely.

      https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/us-women-soccer-flag-national-anthem-b1878703.html

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        clarence.t

        Sports people have brought this embarrassment upon themselves.

        They should never have joined the self-hating, virtue-seeking, social-justice-warrior meme.

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          Ian

          Maybe you missed the post by Scissor suggesting the players were facing the flag. Why do you place such faith on lying right wing BS?

          Here’s something you won’t like either. Namely some facts.

          After the game, U.S. Soccer took to Twitter to make it clear that the lies being spread were simply that: lies.

          “US Soccer tweeted
          “To be clear, no one turned their back on WWII Veteran Pete DuPré during tonight’s anthem. Some USWNT players were simply looking at the flag on a pole in one end of the stadium. The players all love Pete, thanked him individually after the game and signed a ball for him. This is respect. Each and every player waited for their opportunity to come up to Pete post-game before getting on the bus, said hello, thanked him and signed his ball.”

          Like all athletes taking part, the players will face the flag at the Olympics. Will that mean they are members of “the self-hating, virtue-seeking, social-justice-warrior meme.”

          Presumably you believe that it will. What a sad attitude toward women representing their country at the ultimate sporting event

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            clarence.t

            Poor Ian,

            You just don’t comprehend, do you.

            If it weren’t for the woke and racist bending of the knee, and self-hatred of turning the back your national flag, by overpaid primadonnas, the suspicion aimed at the US woman’s soccer players would never have arisen.

            You reap what you sow.

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              Ian

              Unmitigated crap clarence.t

              So at the Olympics the US women’s soccer team should not face the US flag because of the “racist bending of the knee and self hatred of turning the back of your national flag”, whatever that means, as it makes no sense at all.

              As for “turning the back your national flag” (strewth) you dill, that is precisely what the women did not do. They turned and faced their national flag and did not look at the harmonica player. Which bit of that can’t you follow?

              So it’s wrong not to face the national flag but if you do face the national flag that’s wrong too?

              And what do you mean by “the suspicion aimed at the US woman’s soccer players” Suspicion of what? Facing the national flag? Not facing the harmonica player?

              Your post is incoherent drivel.

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                clarence.t

                Still a total lack of comprehension, hey Ian

                Is it deliberate attention-seeking..

                … or just plain lack of awareness of what is happening around you ?

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                clarence.t

                Its great that you agree that taking the knee, and turning away from the flag is just pure virtue-seeking.

                Cow-towing to the LCD.

                If there weren’t so many sportspeople doing it, no-one would even have commented on the actions of the US soccer team..

                Do you comprehend !!

                Or is rational thought beyond you.

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                clarence.t

                Good thing is, next time, they will decide beforehand which flag to face.

                Save the motley look and the embarrassment of people thinking they are virtue-seeking.

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                Ian

                Of course you feel total indifference because your comprehension of what I’m saying is absolute zero

                “Its great that you agree that taking the knee, and turning away from the flag is just pure virtue-seeking.

                Cow-towing to the LCD.”

                It’s kowtow. If you must try and impress with your command of language do try and get it right otherwise you look rather silly. But then…

                However I digress

                ‘If there weren’t so many sportspeople doing it, no-one would even have commented on the actions of the US soccer team..”

                Doing what? Turning toward the flag?

                Are you deliberately being stupid? They were not turning away from the flag but towards it repeat toward the flag. Which bit of that is beyond your understanding?

                The comments were made by some low-life right wing idiot who felt the women should have looked at the harmonica player. If they had done that they would have been criticised for not looking at the flag.. Capiche?/

                For god’s sake if you don’t understand plain English don’t reply brecause it just makes you look even more stupid

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                clarence.t

                Yawn

                You really do like making mindless rants based on lack of comprehension, don’t you Ian

                You are making a fool of yourself.. Stop now. !

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                clarence.t

                And of course the US women’s soccer have a precedence of this anti-American virtue-seeking

                U.S women’s national team star Megan Rapinoe was the first soccer player to silently protest against racial inequality and follow in the footsteps of Kaepernick.

                The midfielder took a knee during the national anthem before a NWSL match between the Chicago Red Stars and Seattle Reign in September 2016.

                Is it any wonder that some people took this incident as yet another slight against the USA people and flag.

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                Strop

                Ian, you’ve misunderstood Clarence’s comment about sportspeople having brought it upon themselves.

                Clarence was acknowledging that the players weren’t being disrespectful. That some were looking at a different flag to others. He was accepting of Scissor’s post that the players were all respecting the anthem and flag. That it was a misinterpretation by some observers who claimed some players were turning their backs to the veteran.

                His point was simply that because we have become accustomed to seeing some sort of protest by sportspeople on a regular basis, the misunderstanding or misinterpretation by those wrongly accusing the players of disrespect was an due to the pattern of behavior by sportspeople (as a generalised group).

                By “suspicion” he was referring to someone being suspicious of the players action or motive for turning away. i.e. Those who accused the players of turning away from the veteran had a “suspicion” the players were protesting.

                A bit like when someone is regularly caught stealing, that the next time something gets stolen that person may be falsely accused due to a pattern of behavior. These sportspeople were falsely accused of a protest because of a pattern of behavior by sportspeople.

                He wasn’t saying they didn’t face a flag or that they were protesting. Or that they shouldn’t face a flag, or they should face a flag.

                I hope this clarifies.

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              Ian

              I have just submitted a post in reply to your post 1.1.1.1.1 It hasn’t appeared and I was advised I had duplicated. I didn’t think I had but???

              I feel very strongly about your unfair comments and have made that plain should my post you never see it

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                clarence.t

                I feel total indifference to your comment..

                … because all it portrays is your blatant lack of awareness and comprehension in general.

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              Most of the US women’s soccer team play on the out side. They are out and woke, like women’s hockey was known to be back in my day. Join the team or don’t get selected, which I never did.

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            truth

            Ian:

            Are you pretending that many sportspeople and organisations and corporations haven’t demonstrated clearly their disrespect…hatred even… for America and its whole system, by taking the knee…and in some cases by spelling it out…and by making groveling apologies to the murderous slave-holding Communist Chinese dictatorship for perceived slights… or otherwise indicating their bone-headed approval and respect…not for their own country….but for America’s greatest adversary…from whose over-population they hope to personally derive enormous wealth?

            That is…these people…many of whom claim to despise Capitalism….see in China a huge market and nothing else…no racism….no organ harvesting…no imprisonment without fair trial…no social credit system etc…just big bucks for themselves.

            The point is, Ian, that you seem to want to pretend the soccer team event is stand-alone…that the criticism came in no context at all.

            In the madness that BLM and the rest of the Left have spawned with the whole Critical Race Theory contagion….there are bound to be misunderstandings and the Left will gleefully exploit them….as they always do.

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          OldOzzie

          Why must everything — from ‘Real Housewives’ to the NFL to yoga — be about race. It is toxic for America

          “The Real Housewives of New York” has turned into a tiresome ongoing race spat, and has predictably been rewarded with record-low ratings.

          The National Football League is playing the “black national anthem.” That effort effectively rebrands “The Star-Spangled Banner ” as a white national anthem and further divides America in what is supposed to be a unifying ceremony.

          Even yoga is now white supremacy, according to the new book “Yoke” (yoga meets woke, I guess).

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            clarence.t

            The far-left promulgate these racist and divisive memes, then, as Ian has shown, get all huffy and defensive when someone makes a comment about it.

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          Tilba Tilba

          They should never have joined the self-hating, virtue-seeking, social-justice-warrior meme.

          My goodness – what an outburst! And it’s already been explained in detail that this is a beat-up – that the players were not making a political statement. And in any case – if you try and make “patriotism” compulsory, then that is a blatant form of totalitarianism.

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            clarence.t

            Its a sport, not politics.

            But leftists have to make everything about “them” don’t they !

            And as I said, in this case, probably mistaken…

            …but in many other cases , purely attention-virtue-seeking.

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        Peter C

        The US soccer organisations are in full panic mode trying to salvage a golden opportunity that’s now in ruins. The lying media and dissembling “fact checkers” at places like Stopes have since denied it ever happened or if it did, it was all some sort misunderstanding.

        It’s a long anthem, especially when being played solo by so elderly a man in a vast stadium, so there was plenty of time to correct any mistakes about which way your back should be pointing. They’re just yet another bunch of entitled athletes marring what was an especially touching moment. They can burn in Hell, the lot of them, for either showing such disrespect or standing by and doing nothing while their team mates did it.

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          clarence.t

          Personally, I prefer to think it was just a lack of pre-organisation, to be fixed next time.

          Its the sickening virtue-seeking actions of many other psuedo-sportspeople, that led to the comments about the confusion.

          Sporting bodies should have clamped down on it from the start.

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      Wixy

      Australian T20 cricket team took a knee against the West Indies prior to their first encounter. Aussies were subjected to a 4 to 1 flogging in the 5 match series. I might add the Windies were using mature players seconded from care homes and sand papering of the ball was also forbidden.
      Instead of using “seamers” our selectors opted for “seemers” perhaps?
      Writing about seemers brings me to one L Cambage who is a 6 foot 8 inch non male basketballer… I believe it got too much for her, all of this counting money and seeming of course. She’s pulled out of the olympics due to uncontrollable bouts of anxiousness. But we are all equal. I just wonder how it was in the trenches or fighting the Japanese if some of our brave lads decided to pull the same stunt… where would we be know?

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        clarence.t

        “Australian T20 cricket team took a knee against the West Indies prior to their first encounter”

        This is why I don’t bother watching Australian cricket any more.!

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          Mark Allinson

          I have a wee ditty on that topic:

          Last Night’s Cricket Match

          I watched last night our cricketers kneel before the game began,
          They knelt in support of BLM, but do they know their plan?

          They knelt in support of Communism, and hatred of the West,
          They knelt to say the white race is the world’s most evil pest.

          They knelt to say their nation – the one they used to love,
          Must soon dissolve its borders and give democracy the shove.

          They knelt in affiliation with a movement many dread,
          If for nothing more than for the fact of one hundred million dead.

          They knelt to say Australia had been a most egregious blue,
          An error which they now regret, whose abolition’s due.

          They knelt to say our culture, for which their fathers fought,
          Was a racist, sexist, cesspit which should be reduced to naught.

          That’s when I reached for my remote, and turned the screen to black,
          The only colour that matters to them, and then I hit the sack.

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            Serp

            An outstanding effort, fully comprehensible in contrast with the incoherent utterances of our beloved wokerati.

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        Harves

        These millionaire sports people do have it extremely tough. Sometimes they have to stay in accommodation that is only 4 star.

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        Analitik

        Cambage was also the one who earlier made noises about not of participating at the Olympics because the team photos were not diverse enough (for her liking).

        I place her alongside Adam Goodes for ingratitude for the opportunities our society has afforded them.

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        “Took a knee” is the most disgraceful misappropriation ofCatholic faith, where we genuflect Before the Tabernacle when entering a church. Where is the racial or religious outcry?

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        Strop

        Australian T20 cricket team took a knee against the West Indies prior to their first encounter.

        They were supposed to take a knee against racism. 😉

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        V.

        “Australian T20 cricket team took a knee against the West Indies prior to their first encounter. Aussies were subjected to a 4 to 1 flogging”

        did they forget to stand up?

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      clarence.t

      But he’d had the vaccines. How is that possible 😉

      Please don’t tell us the vaccines don’t work.

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        John F Hultquist

        Some “vaccines” work sometimes. That should ease your mind!

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        Richard Owen No.3

        And that report is from the BBC so we won’t know if it is true or not.
        Perhaps they could send up a drone and herd him down a cliff (with voice over from Dave Daffy).

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        tonyb

        Well yes they do seem to work . It won’t stop you catching it however. Indeed it might make you MORE likely to catch it as you will believe you have total immunity and are likely to be much less cautious. I see that every day in this seaside resort. People have largely stopped social distancing and it is noticeable how large groups-often the young-who obviously haven’t seen each other for a while, are hugging and kissing.

        It does seem to hugely mitigate the effects of covid however. Although it might be that the delta variant -although much more infectious- is not as deadly. . Covid, despite the hysteria, remain a very small percentage of all deaths in the UK at around the 24th biggest cause.

        https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/07/13/what-pandemic-new-figures-reveal-age-adjusted-mortality-in-the-first-six-months-of-2021-is-below-the-10-year-average/

        It seems that overall around 0.3% of people who catch the virus die of it although that number increases with age

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          V.

          unvaccinated covid survival rates:

          0-19: 99.997%
          20-49: 99.98%
          50-69: 99.5%
          70+: 94.6%+

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            Global Cooling

            Survival rates depend on the sample. Mortally sick people have higher probability to become a case, because the virus spreads in hospitals and nursing homes and testing is ready available. Just a death withing 30 days of the test does not tell the cause. Typically there are many.

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          PeterS

          That’s right. In fact that’s the agenda – vaccinate as many people as possible so most if not all of the restrictions and lockdowns and be lifted permanently. The problem of course is the virus will still be with us and the only way it will go away is it mutates itself out of existence. There is no cure and highly unlikely there will ever be a cure. We are clearly going about it with a one-sided view at the neglect of alternatives. Medicines, herd immunity and time are other practical ways to handle the situation. The experimental vaccines might help to reduce the severity of some victims who catch the virus but it also has been shown to increase other risks including deaths. So, it’s an exercise of a balance of probabilities. Our “leaders” and so called experts are only giving us one side of the picture thus covering up a lot of the facts. If it’s ever shown their deliberate actions to cover up much of the truth has led directly the a lot of deaths then they ought to be charged with crimes against humanity. We don’t know for sure if that’s the case simply because we haven’t enough time to assess the situation. In time we will.

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            Chris

            I watched the video from Dr Jackie Stone in Africa. She works at the coal face of covid mortalities.

            She noted three interesting things:

            1. All the people who died had diabetes.

            2. People who had the BCG vaccination had 10x less change of catching covid.

            3. The PCR test is a waste of time – there are other methods of diagnosing that are quicker and more reliable.

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            David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

            G’day PeterS,
            You surprise with me this: ” There is no cure and highly unlikely there will ever be a cure. ”
            As a regular reader and prolific contributor to Jo’s posts, I’d have thought you knew about the cures, and preventatives that are available already. In fact since about April 2020, with Dr Zelenko’s work in particular, with emphasis on zinc and on early treatment. That is, based on zinc, an ionophore and vitamin D.
            While your next sentence suggests something, I think the quoted sentence is both wrong and badly misleading, especially to occasional visitors to this site.
            Cheers
            Dave B

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              Hanrahan

              I’m a mech/tech type, no scientist, so I must rely on those more knowledgeable than I but my BS filter has a fine mesh.

              My reading is that

              A/ We can’t “kill” the virus, in fact smart people say that it isn’t a living organism to begin with.

              B/ The virus alone doesn’t kill.

              ergo: If we can control the body’s reaction to the infection we can allow time and our natural immunity to do their job. Over a year ago we knew that the cytokine storm killed.

              So it is perfectly reasonable that a c0cktail of minerals, vitamins and chemicals can be life savers in many ways OTHER than a direct attack on the virus itself.

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                David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

                G’day H,
                While I didn’t use the word “kill” above I have done in the past as a convenient, normal English language shorthand for non-experts. But, and it’s a big BUT, zinc does stop the virus from replicating inside a cell, the source of its damaging existence.
                Dr Sehault explained the mechanism in his MEDCRAM 34 video, 17 mins.

                And Dr Zelenko praised Dr Sehault’s work in one of his more recent interviews.

                A lot of the negative comment about Dr Zelenko’s advocacy of HCQ was based on “trials” which excluded zinc, as well as starting too late.
                Cheers
                Dave B

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        GlenM

        But when you’re “vaccinated ” you’re immune thereafter. Aren’t you?

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          clarence.t

          Apparently, that is not what these vaccines are for !

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            David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

            G’day Glen,
            No.
            I’ve had to listen carefully to our official spokespeople, but I’m hearing that the “vaccines” reduce the severity of an infection and also reduce the chance of death. But one can still become infected and pass on the infection. Frankly I can’t understand how our departments of health and their legal advisors allowed the word “vaccine” be used for these experimental drugs at all, but it does explain why the word “jab” is so widely used by the media, avoiding charges of false advertising.
            Cheers
            Dave B

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              Strop

              Frankly I can’t understand how our departments of health and their legal advisors allowed the word “vaccine” be used

              A vaccine triggers the body to produce antibodies. These antibodies assist our resistance to the disease.
              That’s what these covid vaccines do, hence they’re a vaccine.

              A vaccine isn’t a glass wall that stops the virus reaching you.

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                Tilba Tilba

                Of course they are vaccines. The use of “scare quotes” has become a regular meme for a certain class of cynics (ie the paranoid).

                They are often the same ones who are convinced that the whole pandemic is either a total beat-up, or for the more deranged. a deliberate move by the OWG heading for The Great Reset. All nuts.

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      Travis T. Jones

      It seems it is not a “pandemic of the unvaccinated.”

      I have seen the vaccinated say on tv (Sat morning, abc breakfast) whilst lamenting how many Australians are not vaccinated, ‘when we get to 75%, then we can deal with these unvaccinated.’

      If more people remain unvaccinated, then the majority unvaccinated might throw the infectious vaccinated in those quarantine camps for their own safety!

      Be careful what you wish for.

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        PeterS

        Yes, it will be interesting to see how they deal with a population that refuses to be vaccinated to say 75%. Perhaps they will start an even more vigorous campaign to coerce or force the rest to be vaccinated, which under our laws both would be illegal. Bring it on! We need a trigger to wake people up to the evil agenda being propagated by our so called masters regardless of whether they realise it or not.

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          Custer Van Cleef

          I’m not keen on the frankenjab:

          * If it’s “safe” why is it still necessary to continue the safety trials — not due to be completed until 2023?

          * How can you learn about long-term complications inside of 9 months?

          * Why is this the first mRNA based vax to get approval — while the Zika Vaccine, which has been in development much longer, is still unapproved?

          * Is it really a great idea to turn our cells into little factories producing the Spike Protein, which is toxic all by itself?

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            Brenda Spence

            Good questions. Two answers – fear and money but mainly the latter.

            We all saw the shocking scenes in China at the beginning of 2020, it looked like a horrendous disease. Now the truth is coming out but many people dont hear it because fb, twitter and you tube have censored it.

            Apparently Moderna had never produced a vaccine before this one – big dollars in play and they forecast a profit of $19 billion.

            No! to gene altering vaccines, full stop

            While there is no recognised, effective treatment, the Emergency Use Authorisation in the US can be used for these innoculations. So quick! lets squash all the treatment available or the money will dry up!

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          The Nuremberg Treaty of 1948, to which Australia is a signatory, makes it a crime to force medical mandatory things by government.

          So, companies will try to impose it in the public place.

          This is already a subject of discussion among WA FIFO miners.

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        Travis T. Jones

        FWIW, Source of the comment, “pandemic of the unvaccinated” – Joe Biden:

        Look, the only pandemic we have is among the unvaccinated,” Biden said Friday, echoing comments made earlier in the day by Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.”

        https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-health-pandemics-coronavirus-pandemic-las-vegas-mass-shooting-dbaa197b804a4f993a765e6a41425554

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      RicDre

      Three Fully Vaccinated TX Democrats Who Fled to D.C. to Protest Election Integrity Measures Test Positive for Chinese Coronavirus

      by HANNAH BLEAU
      17 Jul 2021

      Three Democrat state lawmakers who gleefully fled from Texas to Washington, DC, to avoid voting on election integrity issues have tested positive for the Chinese coronavirus despite being fully vaccinated.

      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/07/17/three-fully-vaccinated-tx-democrats-who-fled-to-d-c-to-protest-election-integrity-measures-test-positive-for-chinese-coronavirus/

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      Yarpos

      So it just a pcr test? He could have anything

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    Deano

    Surely I can’t be the only one thinking this – that political correctness isn’t as presented.

    It’s psychology 101 that telling people “We’re all equal” then obviously treating various groups differently all while ignoring complaints about this and even using mass media to then tell them how happy they are with this situation, will annoy the hell out of folks.
    So…
    If it was simply a sly plot to promote the opposite values of ‘PC’ then you’d have to ask why. What’s the motivation if we supposedly already have that view?
    If it was to drive division between us to make us easier to conquer then that’s reasonably plausible but I’m not sure you can identify any unified push – there’s lots of disagreement even within the PC community. They love arguing.
    Is it just a sign that a section of society has too much time on its hands and no real problems to deal with? Most of the PC activists are the sons and daughters of the well off or in cushy academic ‘jobs’.

    And I’m not saying the political correctness push isn’t wasteful, irritating or dangerous – just that it’s hard to get to the motivation behind it.

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      James Murphy

      I think they proponents are long past the stage of telling people they are equal. the point now, is to promote segregation, and to rank people based on how much of a victim they feel they are, or how much of a victim others perceive that apparent group of people to be.

      Gone are the days where not judging people by skin colour was seen as a good thing…

      Who is behind it? Not too many groups I think, but there are an awful lot of people (in more than one sense) who need to aggressively demonstrate that they are following what they see as the more powerful or bigger crowd. It doesn’t matter what the actual message is.

      Are they “useful idiots”, yes, but it’s wrong, and too easy to write them off as being genuinely stupid, just as it is a mistake to think that all those who speak their minds against such groupthink are the only holders of “true understanding”.

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      Yonniestone.

      I once read an idea that PC was subliminally constructed by academics who despite their higher status within their working sphere were not happy with the reality that despite having approval of their achievements from peers, students or media they would mostly be looked down upon by a manual laborer.

      This drove a few to create something that they could give back to the common person that would (in their minds) improve the social standards of everyone, now whether the idea of PC was borne out of politics, good intentions, ego, guilt or boredom is subjective depending on what part you analyze but regardless of its failings we have to admit its effectiveness in infiltrating society.

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        Deano

        That’s an interesting idea. Academics – particularly in the arts – seem annoyed that their achievements aren’t generally appreciated by the vast unwashed. But on the other hand, they tend to treat everyone else as inferior and bring that lack of respect upon themselves. PC also quite obviously originated from within academic circles because it’s wildly impractical (correct pronouns for all 386 genders) and is a theory that keeps failing to produce intended results.

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          Yonniestone

          It’s good to apply “don’t attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity” as a check for overthinking things, I can’t recall the source but I used the gist of it and filled in the rest using reason.

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      another ian

      This might help explain

      “Rapper Zuby posted 21 things he learned about humanity through the ‘Rona and it’s”

      https://notthebee.com/article/rapper-zuby-posts-20-things-he-learned-about-humanity-through-the-coronasanity-and-its-100-on-point

      From a comment at

      http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/07/17/whats-killing-us/#comments

      Worth reading that and the other comments too (IMO)

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      PeterS

      PC is not about equality per se. It’s about sorting us all into one of two archetype; slaves and masters.

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    John F Hultquist

    The USA media are making a big deal of wildfires.
    While the number of reported fires is up 10%, the total area within fire zones is below the 10 year average, down 28%.
    Not all things within delineated areas burns. Question: Is this the same in Australia?
    The link below is to the Idaho agency that tabulates (except weekends ?) the number and acres. Look for Year-to-date statistics. The area to-date is 1 M acres less than the 10 year average.
    https://www.nifc.gov/fire-information/nfn#Idaho

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      Sambar

      We certainly live in strange times. Fires in Australia used to be referred to as ” bush, scrub or grass” fires that were “out of control, being brought under control or controlled” These days the American term “wildfires”is used quite readily by the media for maximum fear mongering. Fires that are near towns or infrastructure get maximum coverage while more remote fires often get just passing ,mention.. Fires in remote areas are often not attaccked to vigorously for fear of environmental damage “getting in” to fight the fire. These days it appears that decisions that need to be made on the spot and quickly, require referral to higher authority which may be quite remote from the fire front.
      Had a cousin, local fire captain in what was the CFA,( Country Fire Authority) made up entirely of volunteers, call for a wide fire break to be put in near a fire in 2005. Over ruled, to many trees of significance in the way. By the time the situation was resolved it didn’t matter, the whole lot had gone up in flames, significant trees as well.
      Regarding total areas burnt, it appears that total annual areas are remarkably similar. Its the agglomeration that causes issues. A fire of 500 thousand hectares is huge and gets lots of media, 10 fires of 50 thousand hectares not quite so much

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        Ronin

        The same thing can be seen on the news about the china virus, huge headlines , exaggerations everywhere, why, because it sells advertising, the more eyes watching or reading, the more can be asked for ads on their media.

        It’s about time we brought back tarring & feathering and the stocks.

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      yarpos

      In Australia the closer you get to Sydney (the media capital) the more apparently important and dangerous the fire becomes, and the more hysterical the coverage gets.

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    John R Smith

    Hey Oz,
    I know it’s winter.
    Just reminding you to avoid shark ‘interactions’.
    I am now going to interact with my lunch.
    Hoping my sandwich doesn’t have a negative emotional experience.
    Happy swimming.

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      Richard Owen No.3

      With the current cold weather most people in southern Australia are not swimming in the ocean, even if our increasingly hysterical State Premiers allowed it.

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      Ronin

      Not much in the way of shark ‘interactions’ or ‘wildfires’ being reported so it’s full steam ahead on china virus and winter storms.
      All these people in Sydney and Melbourne being herded indoors, vitamin D dropping, what could possibly go wrong.

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        OldOzzie

        Sunny here in Sydney – relax and soak up the sun after the Westerly winds of the last 2 days

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          yarpos

          Mmm August in Sydney. As a youngen i was involved in an aviation sport. August often involved a lot of sitting around watching trees sway.

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      beowulf

      Surfers are still surfing. 3 shark attacks in the past 2 months alone.

      July 5th a fellow in his 20s nearly lost an arm off Crescent Head NSW mid-north coast. 3m Great White identified.

      June 13th a 10 year old was bitten on the foot off Coral Bay WA. Suspected Bronze Whaler.

      May 18th a man in his 50s was killed by a 4.5m Great White off Forster NSW mid-north coast. It took a large chunk of his leg off. Despite the attentions of an off-duty paramedic, CPR and the timely application of a tourniquet, he died of blood loss before a helicopter could get to him.

      The Bull Sharks must all be on holidays overseas ATM. Normally they figure prominently in attack stats. Bull Sharks are the one shark species I have no sympathy for as they are notably aggressive and will attack in salt or fresh water (as shallow as knee-deep in one instance), and they are not remotely endangered. I shudder to think of the things we did as kids in relatively murky water favoured by Bull Sharks, oblivious to the danger of the Bulls which were not on the public radar until roughly the 90s. All the other sharks were taking the blame for attacks.

      My father was a life saver at North Cronulla Beach in Sydney back in the 1940s and when there were surf carnivals going on between rival surf clubs it was the done thing to set baited hook lines a day before the surf carnival was due, to catch any local man-eaters. Those caught were duly dragged up onto the beach for display on the day as psychological warfare against the opposing club members. Shock and awe just before the big race. Why it didn’t equally scare the hosting club members is a mystery to me.

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        Richard Owen No.3

        A story (judge for youself if it might be true):
        In the late 1950’s Ern Palmer, a noted Adelaide businessman, and 5 friends were fishing off Kangaroo island when one of them hooked a big one. His companions strapped him into the chair and encouraged (and congratulated) him as he said “it’s a big one” several times. He played the shark for about three quarters of an hour with it taking out a lot of line, when the shark turned and swam towards the boat. They went into the ‘standard drill’; the skipper pointed the boat so the shark would go straight under its length, then cut the motor (so the line didn’t get tangled in the propellers). One observer stood at the bow and signalled when the nose of the shark started to go under the boat and again when its tail went under. Another (actually 2) was at the stern to signal when the nose appeared.
        They used stopwatches to record the time elapsed for the time the “nose” travelled the length of the boat, so giving the speed of the shark. The time difference between the tail going under the bow and the nose appearing at the back could be used to estimate the length of the shark.
        What stunned the crew was that the nose appeared at the stern before the tail went under the front. Remember the boat was stationery, but it was just over 35 foot long (10.9 metres). There was a long silence as all on board considered the situation but they were all glad when about 25 minutes later the shark broke the s.s. tracer line, and without any comment they abandoned fishing and headed back to a few beers.

        Ern Palmer was then Captain of Australia’s Big Game fishing team, containing Bob and Dolly Dyer, and despite training as a lawyer was considered as a reliable and truthful reporter. His son Robert years later set a record catching a 5.9 metre white pointer on a low breaking strain line.
        One further story, Ern P. had old Super 8 film of a white pointer (again off K.I.) grabbing a 25 foot (7.6m) by the stern and shaking the boat side to side, as the 2 on board clung on desperately. His boat was about 200 metres away and they motored down and rescued the 2 men who were very relieved as the boat was taking water. It was felt that the brand new stainless propellers flashing may have excited the shark.

        Anybody want to go fishing for white pointers off Kangaroo Island?

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      yarpos

      I think the reference to “interactions” went over all our heads. That bit of academic stupidity wasnt widely reported here. I just read about it now at: https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/social-jaws-tice-warriors-shark-advocates-want-rename-violent-attacks-interactions

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    RicDre

    Biden wanted a climate alliance with Europe. He’s getting a carbon trade war

    Charles Rotter
    From The GWPF

    Date: 14/07/21

    GWPF & Politico

    While John Kerry is in Moscow to agree some kind of US-Russian ‘climate cooperation,’ the EU is planning to announce carbon trade barriers against the rest of the world, including the US.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/07/17/biden-wanted-a-climate-alliance-with-europe-hes-getting-a-carbon-trade-war/

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    dinn, rob

    Dr. David Franz, former Commander of the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Disease, retired as a Colonel from the U.S. Army in 1998.
    https://www.slu.edu/law/academics/journals/health-law-policy/pdfs/issues/v7-i1/david_franz_article.pdf
    ………………………………………
    12-16-20 David Franz: “in biology … everything is dual use — the people, the facilities and the equipment.” -NPR, May 14, 2003
    David Franz is ‘policy advisor’ to the EcoHealth Alliance (EHA)….
    Meticulous investigation of U.S. government databases reveals that Pentagon funding for the EcoHealth Alliance from 2013 to 2020, including contracts, grants and subcontracts, was just under $39 million. Most, $34.6 million, was from the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA), which is a branch of the DOD which states it is tasked to “counter and deter weapons of mass destruction and improvised threat networks.”
    Most of the remaining money to EHA was from USAID (State Dept.), comprising at least $64,700,000 (1). These two sources thus total over $103 million. (See Fig).

    Summary of EHA Grants and Contracts. Note this figure doesn’t count subcontracts so it undercounts USAID’s contribution, see footnote (1) below (Credit: James Baratta and Mariamne Everett)
    Another $20 million came from Health and Human Services ($13 million, which includes National Institutes of Health and Centers for Disease Control)
    (1) The figure for EHA’s USAID funding was obtained from the University of California at Davis, a major grantee of PREDICT funds, which EHA has been a major sub-grantee of Davis confirmed that EHA’s funding from PREDICT totaled $64,722,669 (PREDICT-1: 2009 to 2014: $19,943,214; PREDICT-2: 2014 to present (2020) $44,779,455) . The figure for EHA’s USAID funding was obtained from the University of California at Davis, a major grantee of PREDICT funds, which EHA has been a major sub-grantee of Davis confirmed that EHA’s funding from PREDICT totaled $64,722,669 (PREDICT-1: 2009 to 2014: $19,943,214; PREDICT-2: 2014 to present (2020) $44,779,455) https://www.independentsciencenews.org/news/peter-daszaks-ecohealth-alliance-has-hidden-almost-40-million-in-pentagon-funding/
    ……………………………………………….
    7-15-21 With this latest announcement, UC has become the nation’s largest university system to require vaccines for attendance.
    Those not in compliance and without documented exemption — medical, religious or otherwise — will not meet the university system’s health and safety rules for attending in-person classes or events, along with access to campus housing. https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2021/07/15/uc-covid-vaccine-mandate/
    ……….

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      Raving

      At least it isn’t Japan. Things will get bad there without a hard immediate lockdown. With the Delta variant, political inertia is not in their favor.

      The olympics will be blamed for the mess

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      el gordo

      I was raised in the Canterbury – Bankstown area and the whole place has been taken over by new immigrants, not that there is anything wrong with that except that their behaviour could be seen as un-Australian.

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        Yonniestone.

        Yes those Immigrants that follow a “religion of peace” based on the 5th century ideology of a pe^%$%le warlord that teaches women are property?

        I can see plenty wrong with that and being un-Australian doesn’t cover it.

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          el gordo

          Its not quite what you imagine.

          ‘In the South Western Sydney district, 54.8% of residents were born in Australia. This is lower than the New South Wales state average of 65.5%. Fairfield, Canterbury-Bankstown and Liverpool had the largest proportion of overseas-born residents. Wollondilly, Wingecarribee and Camden had the smallest proportion of overseas-born residents.

          ‘The most common birthplaces in the South Western Sydney district, other than Australia, were Vietnam, Iraq, China, and Lebanon.’

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            Yarpos

            Wollondilly , Wingecarribie and Camden are getting a bit far from approved businesses and meeting places.

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            Yonniestone.

            Argue all you want but relating to the subject raised if something is wrong its always just that, wrong.

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              el gordo

              Yes but we cannot put our finger on one particular group because that would create unwanted racial vilification.

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                Yonniestone.

                Not as unwanted as my daughter seen by a particular group as uncovered meat, in a fair society I’d call it justification not vilifiaction.

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                el gordo

                It has evolved out of religious belief and from our christian perspective its unseemly, but the children of these immigrants won’t be so involved as their parents generation.

                ‘Overwhelmingly, the young people surveyed, who were 95 per cent from minority immigrant backgrounds, felt good about living in Australia. This finding, above all others, bodes well for Australia’s future as one of the most culturally-diverse societies in the world today.

                ‘When linked to the other, sometimes contradictory, findings of this research project that are outlined below, this finding is a litmus test of the positive way that Australian multicultural society is working today and suggests that Australia has good prospects for social cohesion in the future.

                ‘One hundred percent of those born in Switzerland, Bangladesh, Africa, Tonga, Egypt, Vietnam, Lebanon and England felt good about living in Australia. This was followed by young people born in Sri Lanka (91.7 percent), India (83.3 percent), China (75.0 percent), Korea (64.7 percent) and Sudan (61.5 percent). Young people born in New Zealand (18.5 percent) felt least good about living in Australia.’

                (Tapping The Pulse of Youth in Western and South-Western Sydney)

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                Kalm Keith

                When I was a toddler there we’re stories about the ugly wicked Witch.

                Her attire was black and all encompassing and something to avoid.

                Now seventy years later she has reappeared and moves among us.

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                Kalm Keith

                , “but the children of these immigrants won’t be so involved as their parents generation.”

                Didn’t one of those youngsters recently have his prison sentence “reconfirmed”.

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        PeterS

        Be careful el gordo. You now sound like a far right winger. It is true though what you said.

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        Brian the Engineer

        was born and raised there too and there has always been new immigrants there now they are old immigrants with children.

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          el gordo

          Half of the people in south west Sydney were born in another country, their children will grow up and probably leave the area.

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      Destroyer D69

      https://advocateme.wixsite.com/copsforcovidtruth/first-letter This police officer for Australian of of the year!!!!!!!!!

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      Travis T. Jones

      WHO official urges world leaders to stop using lockdowns as primary virus control method

      October 10, 2020

      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/who-official-urges-world-leaders-to-stop-using-lockdowns-as-primary-virus-control-method

      Link via above:

      Earlier this week, thousands of medical health experts signed their names to a petition calling for the end of coronavirus lockdowns, citing the “irreparable damage” they’ve caused.

      “As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists, we have grave concerns about the damaging physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies, and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection,” read the petition, known as the Great Barrington Declaration. “Current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health.”

      ‘Irreparable damage’: Over 6,000 scientists sign petition calling for end of coronavirus lockdowns
      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/irreparable-damage-over-6-000-scientists-sign-petition-calling-for-end-of-coronavirus-lockdowns

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      Analitik

      Victoria’s lockdown is far more draconian if you look at the limitations imposed, despite the bleating of NSW local politicians. It’s just that Victorians have become far more submissive since we’re at number 5 and have had the police demonstrate the power of the statestatists.

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      OldOzzie

      Bonkers really – problem is ME South West Sydney inhabitants are tradies who work across Sydney in Large and Residential Construction

      There was a major protest of Construction Trucks parading around Sydney yesterday afternoon.

      Given the non stop residential renovations/construction in our area, it will be interesting to see how quiet it gets.

      We live in Northern beaches and had our own lockdown over New Year, but we have only 3 methods of ingress/egress to the Northern beaches – A Lifting Spit Bridge, Roseville Bridge and Single Road from St Ives.

      The Stupidity is I had a quote to clean carport area and front area of investment property I own and it can’t be down till after 30 July 21 – 1 person business working in open air with no one around????

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      RickWill

      Sydney has lockdown lite. It is a lockdown you have when not locked down. People were able to decide for themselves if they were essential workers; no work permits there. They are told to carry a mask when out of the home, not actually wear it.

      Victoria gets locked down; not much different to home prison. Victoria has handled one Delta strain outbreak. The current outbreak is already more widespread but there is an immigrant POM who now runs the contract tracing and vaccination rollout; he is on the ball. He is a logistics specialist and he is one of the few government employees in Victoria who is open and truthful. My wife enjoys the way he treats dumb questions from the press at the daily briefings.

      Jeroen Weinmar appears briefly in this news report 40 seconds in:
      https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/watch-live-victorias-health-authorities-provide-covid-19-update-on-new-coronavirus-cases-amid-fears-lockdown-restrictions-could-be-extended-c-3435163
      This gives you an idea of the granularity of contract chasing now in Victoria. Putting the cat back in the bag is not easy like pushing jelly uphill.

      Canberra is the only region where everyone is eligible for vaccination and they have ample supplies of Pfizer. I believe other States are offering AstraZenica to any adult providing they sign a waiver. People have suddenly elevated the priority to get vaccinated. A month ago, there was no urgency – that has changed.

      As the risk of getting Covid increases, the risk of vaccination side effects gets overshadowed. Sydney seems to have a disproportionate number of hospitalisations to cases. That is either under reporting of cases or increased susceptibility. Vitamin D levels could be down; lots of overcast days recently.

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        Analitik

        It would be interesting to know whether those hospitalized have comorbidities. The numbers do seem extraordinarily high compared with everywhere else globally where there has been an outbreak of the Delta variant

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    Vlad the Impaler

    But remember: the ‘science’ is settled, so we do not need to debate:

    https://aeon.co/essays/why-disagreement-is-vital-to-advancing-human-understanding?utm_source=pocket-newtab

    If the link does not work, I’m not tech-savvy enough to provide an alternate. Very sorry, and my apologies to all if the link is bad/broken,

    Vlad

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      Raving

      That is a great example of ‘hidden assumption’ / ‘undeclared context’ / ‘uncritical thinking’. Could be any of those reasons and more.

      Most physicists get the maths correct. They fail by setting up the problem incorrectly. They answer the wrong question

      My favorite example of confusion over context is the ‘Monty Hall’ problem. it drives mathematicians nuts. You would think they would know batter

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem

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      PeterS

      That’s how real science makes progress – through endless debate not final consensus. The science today in many areas is not real science at all but more like a cult built on fake data.

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    David Wojick

    My latest on EPA’s war on refrigeration:
    https://www.cfact.org/2021/07/13/epa-should-rewrite-its-proposed-hfc-regulations/

    The beginning:
    A group of 17 leading free market advocacy organizations is telling EPA to rethink and repropose its faulty phaseout rules for HFCs. These rules were recently proposed under the so-called American Innovation and Manufacturing (AIM) Act passed in December. EPA is rushing the rule making, with final rules due out in September.

    The call for reform comes in the form of formal comments submitted on EPA’s proposed phaseout regulations. The lead author of the comments is Ben Lieberman from the Competitive Enterprise Institute. Our own CFACT is also a member of the group of 17. The comments are impressively concise. Below are some important quotes that convey the thrust of these comments, with my analysis added.

    The focus of the comments is on what Junk Science guru Steve Milloy calls “The war on refrigeration“. Here is an overview of the group’s concerns.

    “The AIM Act imposes limits on the future production of hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs), and does so on the grounds that they contribute to climate change. The economic impacts will be very significant and widespread, as HFCs are the class of refrigerants used in hundreds of millions of air conditioning and refrigeration systems. Keeping this equipment in operation will cost considerably more because of these provisions. In addition, new equipment designed to use alternative refrigerants with lower global warming potentials (GWP) carries a price premium and will likely continue doing so as competition with the HFC-using systems currently dominating the market is increasingly constrained.”

    This is a cap and trade system. That is it is government controlled rationing of HFC chemicals, but ration cards can be bought and sold, which favors the wealthiest companies. The rationing is on a scale and of a complexity far greater than anything EPA has ever done.

    More in the article.

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    RicDre

    For 40% Of The EU And US To Drive EVs, 56,000-70,000 Km² Of Land Must Be Cleared For Wind Turbines

    Reposted from The NoTricksZone

    By Kenneth Richard on 15. July 2021

    A new study warns that “a massive expansion of impervious surfaces” is an inevitable consequence of having electric vehicles reach a 40% share of citizens’ driving needs. A land area the size of Croatia (in the European Union) or West Virginia (in the United States) must be completely covered with wind turbines to meet EV-charging energy demands for 4 of every 10 vehicles.

    Put another way, an average EU or US city will need to expand its urbanized area by 0.2 to 4 km² due to dramatically rising number of EVs using low-density wind and solar energy to supply electricity.

    And this is green?

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/07/17/for-40-of-the-eu-and-us-to-drive-evs-56000-70000-km%c2%b2-of-land-must-be-cleared-for-wind-turbines/

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      David Wojick

      That is why I call them solar slabs. But wind covering is just the tower base and access roads. Farmers lease space on their fields for wind towers but continue to use the fields.

      The bigger question is where the juice will come from on low wind nights or cloudy days, which are common in most places. Note that since solar only generates about 8 hours a day a night is 16 hours long.

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      RicDre

      And speaking of wind generators:

      California is planning floating wind farms offshore to boost its power supply – here’s how they work

      Matthew Lackner, University of Massachusetts Amherst

      Northern California has some of the strongest offshore winds in the U.S., with immense potential to produce clean energy. But it has a problem. Its continental shelf drops off quickly, making building traditional wind turbines directly on the seafloor costly if not impossible.

      Once water gets more than about 200 feet deep – roughly the height of an 18-story building – these “monopile” structures are pretty much out of the question.

      A solution has emerged that’s being tested in several locations around the world: making wind turbines that float. In fact, in California, where drought is putting pressure on the hydropower supply and fires have threatened electricity imports from the Pacific Northwest, the state is moving forward on plans to develop the nation’s first floating offshore wind farms as we speak.

      https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/07/17/california-is-planning-floating-wind-farms-offshore-to-boost-its-power-supply-heres-how-they-work/

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        PeterS

        So by floating them they might have a chance of surviving when CA sinks into the Pacific Ocean went the big one hits. Clever. LOL.

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          another ian

          Won’t the anchor chains pull them down?

          Or they kept in place by means which consume power and thus they can go wander in those intermittent times?

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            PeterS

            Depends where they are placed. The sea floor might rise instead as the land mass sinks. It’s all academic anyway. Perhaps a tsunami will wipe them out.

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        yarpos

        I recall in the 1970s seeing fake palm trees of offshore rigs visible from the cost in Southern California. Some sort of cheesy attempt to lessen the visual impact i wss told. I guess the bird killers will be OK though because virtue n stuff.

        Its instructive that faced with power shortages , all they can think to do is install more of what got them in deep do do in tge first place. Such is life in the land of Gavin.

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      Chad

      RicDre
      July 18, 2021 at 4:46 am ·
      For 40% Of The EU And US To Drive EVs, 56,000-70,000 Km² Of Land Must Be Cleared For Wind Turbines

      A very missleading statement if you review the report that it was taken from.
      Included in that report, (just before the elaborate estimate of wind power requirements), is this statement…

      While the extra demand of electricity associated with the use of EVs would be generally limited compared to current overall production, the amount of land needed to meet such demand via renewables would be substantial,

      IE,.. it is NOT the change to EVs that dictates the need for extra land,…but it is the adoption of Wind/solar over Fossil generation !
      So pointing the finger at EVs for additional land use is a false accusation.
      I might add, that even a casual review of that paper reveals more holes than Coober Peedy , and backed up by a raft of equally rediculous assumptions .

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    David Maddison

    BCP (Black Conservative Patriot) just released his latest video about the Biden Maladministration finally admitting to the truth and other current matters. Note that on Leftist YouTube you are not allowed to mention “election fraud” so he is guarded in what he says but you’ll understand. 18 mins.

    https://youtu.be/gMg2EYtrQk8

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      yarpos

      I notice Tony Heller has taken to posting short youtube clips of Biden trying to make sensed on different topics. Lets reality speak for itself.

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    another ian

    “They Thought They Were Free”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/07/17/they-thought-they-were-free/

    “I could not find this on bitchute, rumble or odysee. And yes there are a lot of ominous parallels to today.”

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    David Maddison

    Third World technology. Making a chair out of old truck tyres. And greens consider old tyres to be a “pollutant”.

    https://youtu.be/CAb0UVS9jyE

    There are many similar videos about making old tyres into furniture items:

    https://youtu.be/OgOzamhbYCI

    Also, making pressure cookers in the Third World. They even melt the aluminium and roll it into plate stocjk. You’ll love how they wear open shoes in an industrial environment while pouring molten metal…

    https://youtu.be/mUPQfb5hblM

    We should all study this type of Third World technology because that is where the Left is taking us with deliberate deindustrialisation and expense and unreliable technology. In fact, this level of technology is more advanced than where they want to take us.

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      David Maddison

      Last para I meant to say “expensive and unreliable electricity

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      yarpos

      I think that people in the 3rd world will be the only ones left with practical skills, sooner rather than later.

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    Robber

    Weren’t we going to get cheaper electricity from all these “renewables”?
    Just received a letter from Origin Energy in Victoria saying their prices are going up on Aug 1.
    Prices before discounts (I get discounts off my total bill):
    Supply charge up from 129.47 to 131.17 cents/day.
    Peak usage up from 27.04 to 28.54 cents/kWhr.
    Offpeak usage up from 17.33 to 17.72 cents/kWhr.
    Interestingly, their letter states that most of the increase is due to a rise in network costs, but by my calculation 90% of the increase is due to usage charges.

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      David Maddison

      I don’t understand the huge discounts electricity companies offer for a “pay on time discount”. Such huge discounts are not normal commercial practice.

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        Harves

        It’s just a different way of saying you’ll pay a huge additional fee if you pay late.

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          David Maddison

          Yes, but why is this practice so prevalent only in the electricity industry? There may be penalties with others but not as much as the electricity “discount”.

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            Analitik

            I thought about this too and have come to the conclusion that our society has become full of deadbeats who will try to stretch terms of credit as far as the providers will allow and then complain publicly about financial repression. The bigger the provider, the greater the tendency for this play.

            Given this, the electricity retailers have raised their underlying pricing and then offer the pay on time discounts so consumers feel they are getting a “win”.

            It’s very similar to the way usage points are awarded to credit card users and loyalty points are used by retailers (including the buy x, get one free cards given out by cafes). At the end of the day, the actual price rises to fund the “deal”

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        Serp

        I understood it to be a built in late payment penalty that legislation prohibits being done explicitly.

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        I also received that 26% reduction for ‘pay on time’ when I moved here from Rockhampton. So I always had enough in interim payments to cover the final bill, and never missed out a payment with that reduction.

        In the middle of last year, during this coronavirus thing, I received a hard copy mail that the plan I was on was changing. Then, oddly, a week later, there was another hard copy mail, saying that nothing was changing. The mail was written in terms that were not all that easy to understand, (has anyone else noticed that lately) and as a bill arrived at around the same time ….. with the 26% discount, as there was enough paid in interim payments to cover it, then, I assumed there was no change.

        The next bill was the same, as far as I could ascertain.

        However, I had enough in the account when the most recent bill arrived and when I checked back in online, I noticed that the 26% discount had not been applied.

        So, I phoned them up and asked.

        The upshot was that I HAD been changed back to the standard plan, automatically, and that the 26% discount was not in place any more.

        The person on the other end of the phone mentioned (almost cryptically, and in a manner that was suggestive that I have a closer look) that the 26% discount was a ‘bit of a lure’ to attract new clients, and that after a while you revert to the standard plan.

        So, taking the hint, I got out all my previous bills, and did indeed look more closely.

        What I found was that the ‘Standard Plan’ had (wait for this) a lower unit cost for the electricity, and a lower cost for the ‘supply to property’. part of the bill.

        So, I then checked each cost and did the Maths. And hey, what a surprise. Both are ….. 26% less than on my original plan, where I got a 26% discount if I paid on time.

        Now who would have thought that, eh!

        Incidentally, and I have no idea why I even do this. I used to save every one of those power bills, and then when I left that home and moved, I would keep the first bill I received and toss the rest after a couple of Months in the new address. I have no idea why I did something like that, but it’s now fortuitous that I did do that.

        I now have ‘first bills’ from 2003, so going back five homes. Back then, Energex were the only retailer here in Queensland. Now, while the unit cost per KWH of electricity has risen markedly, there’s a (sort of) ‘sneaky’ way that they have increased to total cost of the bill.

        Back then, in 2003, the supply to property aspect of the bill was a tick over a flat $9, no daily cost, just $9 per bill, so three Months supply.

        Now, they charge a unit cost per DAY of 88.17 cents, so the three Month bill is just under $80.

        Clever. eh!

        Tony.

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          OldOzzie

          I am with Simply Energy for both Electricity (Time of Day Billing) and Gas (Meter Reader)with NRMA Discount and get monthly email bills on Electricity and 3 monthly Gas email bills – Click on Pay Now on email and pay immediately – seamless and has been working for over 3 years

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          Robber

          In Victoria the Essential Services Commission publishes a default offer for each network area that is the maximum any retailer can charge.
          Some retailers then offer discounts off the VDO, while others simply quote flat prices.
          Interestingly, Origin told me my prices are going up on Aug 1, while the new VDO prices apply from Sep 1. So Origin is taking one month where my discount will reduce.
          The Vic govt also has a compare energy website where you can enter details of your usage.
          You then get a listing of the supposedly “best offers” from each retailer.
          With about 30 retailers, offers vary by about 40%, so you can be sure that games are being played for those who simply accept each bill without comparing offers and asking for a better deal..

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        RickWill

        There are high costs involved in chasing up accounts. If there are 5 million customers and 20% of them are inclined to pay when they can rather than on time, there is huge cost involved in chasing then down and even greater expense to actually turning off supply – technically easy but lots of government hoops.

        The encouragement to pay on time is an indication of the high cost of chasing up slow payers and no payers when there are massive number of customers who all get the goods on credit.

        There may be an opportunity to offer substantially lower price electricity if the retailer held a bond that could be converted to cover late payments. Electrical retailers like to have direct debit access to accounts for automatic billing. Same with phones.

        Having dealt with Telstra and predecessors for 50 years, I would never give them access to direct debit.

        If all customers opted for direct debit then the need for on-time payment evaporates. Any least until the account is dry.

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      Chad

      Robber
      July 18, 2021 at 8:11 am · Reply
      Weren’t we going to get cheaper electricity from all these “renewables”?
      Just received a letter from Origin Energy in Victoria saying their prices are going up on Aug 1.
      Prices before discounts (I get discounts off my total bill):
      Supply charge up from 129.47 to 131.17 cents/day.
      Peak usage up from 27.04 to 28.54 cents/kWhr.
      Offpeak usage up from 17.33 to 17.72 cents/kWhr.
      Interestingly, their letter states that most of the increase is due to a rise in network costs, but by my calculation 90% of the increase is due to usage charges

      You will find the the Network costs are included in the “usage charges”.
      The “daily supply charge” is nothing more than a surcharge for the previledge of being connected via that particular service provider.

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      Peter Fitzroy

      Hindsight is a very poor predictive model, el g.

      The other point is this – what if you took all the precautions like evacuations, better defences, and mitigation works and the forecast event did not happen. The cost of the prevention plus the hit to the economy would cause heads to roll.

      As long as you can maintain the facade that such events are unexpected you save a bundle.

      However these extreme events (fires, floods, heatwaves, cold snaps, storms) are becoming more frequent, even if the political class pretend otherwise

      For proof, look to what is now covered by ‘Act of God’ on your insurance, to what was converted 10 years ago

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        TedM

        Ever heard of risk management PF?

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        el gordo

        ‘ … these extreme events (fires, floods, heatwaves, cold snaps, storms) are becoming more frequent …’

        It may only appear that way through the eyes of an excitable media. To be perfectly honest, I believe all these extreme weather events are a sign of imminent global cooling. Nothing too serious, back to the 1960s.

        The next European winter should be particularly severe.

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          Analitik

          Did you notice that the headlines all state “biggest in living history”. The media know exactly what they are presenting

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        Murray Shaw

        Yes Peter, the last Brisbane flood circa 2010 was exacerbated by not drawing down the Wivenhoe dam soon enough. This was a direct result of Professor Tim Flannery and his assertion that there would not be any more rains sufficient to fill dams as the soil will be that dry and hot “ the rain that falls will not flow into rivers”. Hence the reluctance of the dam managers to waste water by creating airspace for predicted inflows.
        You need to be watchful as to the “science” that you follow.

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          clarence.t

          Quite a few of the places flooded, were actually built below previous flood marks..

          What did they expect to happen eventually !

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        Harves

        It’s a shame it’s too late to take precautions for an ice-free Arctic because that occurred in 2013 … oh wait …
        What precaution should we take for the sky falling, Chicken Little?

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        Harves

        And yet wealthy alarmists like Gore, Obama and Flannery are still buying waterfront properties? You’d better start lecturing them on taking precautions. Or perhaps you’ll realise you’ve been duped by the cult leaders?

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        clarence.t

        “are becoming more frequent,”

        BS, yet another scientifically unsupportable claim from the fake-news disinformation bureau.

        .. its just that there are more population centers in the way when these events occur.

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          PeterS

          Correct. Even if they are becoming more frequent, it has nothing to do with mankind. We don’t have the power to make it so. The Sun can and does. We are lucky it’s not a lot worse.
          Earth Just Got Lucky… But Glitched Again | S0 News July.16.2021
          Electroquake | Electric Earthquakes are Real

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          Analitik

          Yep, building on flood plains and old river beds has never been a good idea.

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          el gordo

          “are becoming more frequent,”

          He might be half right, is there a precedence?

          ‘The Deutscher Wetterdienst reported that the quantity of rain in some areas of Germany was the highest in over 100 years, possibly higher than any seen in the last 1,000 years. They reported that some areas had received a month’s average rainfall in one day.’

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            clarence.t

            Hundred year occurrence storms happen regularly in different places.

            Always have, always will. !

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              el gordo

              Ah yes, but under a global warming scenario the EEA forecast more river flooding.

              https://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/indicators/river-floods-3/assessment

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                clarence.t

                Urbanisation will do that !

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                el gordo

                Don’t think so, its bigger than that.

                ‘One in a hundred year floods are projected to increase in most European regions, with the greatest increases projected for central and central-eastern Europe. In contrast, decreases in Q100 floods are projected for parts of northern Europe (owing to a reduction in snow accumulation, and hence melt-associated floods) and for southern Spain and Turkey (due to a reduction in rainfall).’

                Can you criticise the quote.

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                clarence.t

                Predicted…using climate models that are woefully wrong on temperatures, and basically skill-less on everything else.

                Ho-hum !! yawn !

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                el gordo

                It makes them vulnerable, using biased models.

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              Hanrahan

              Hundred year occurrence storms happen regularly in different places.

              Or – It’s always 5 o’clock somewhere.

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            Mal

            In Australia, we generally only have 2 – 4 rain days a month
            There fore to state that you get a month’s rain in a single day is misleading

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            MrGrimNasty

            Gordo, the Germany 24hr totals from the 3 worst places were about 6″, the highest I saw was 154mm, actually pretty modest for a stalled summer storm system in Europe – a commonplace weather event. That is nowhere near a record. In 2002 there was twice as much 353mm, and there was more rain in 1 hour in 1968 200mm. July 2014 also had nearly a FOOT (293mm) of rain in 7 hours. The wettest week was in September 1899 515mm, the wettest month July 1954 458mm, and the wettest year 1943/4 3661mm.

            The Elbe, Ahr, Rhine etc. are notorious for devastating floods – although they were much worse historically when it was colder. Warming since the LIA has significantly reduced flooding caused by spring melt/ice floes/blockages etc.

            It has now emerged that the dam(s) to control the flow were full despite at least 4 day’s warning during which the levels could have been lowered.

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        wal1957

        The other point is this – what if you took all the precautions like evacuations, better defences, and mitigation works and the forecast event did not happen. The cost of the prevention plus the hit to the economy would cause heads to roll.

        Hasn’t happened in Australia regarding the COVID scare. They keep gettuing re-elected!

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        el gordo

        Importantly the IPCC cannot find any connection between European floods and global warming.

        https://www.climatechangepost.com/europe/river-floods/

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          Analitik

          Nor can they find any increase in extreme weather events but that doesn’t stop politicians and activists bombarding is with claims of CAGW.

          The mere fact that Michael Mann is still referenced as a climate expert by the MSM (quite notably in the recent ABC scare series on CAGW), despite the proven fraud that he has perpetrated, shows how little integrity there is

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    David Maddison

    More Third World technology. Restoring a truck with a horribly broken chassis in Pakistan.

    https://youtu.be/2U5RCSpY5sg

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    Peter Fitzroy

    Many coastal cities in the USA are implementing planned retreat policies as flood days increase in frequency. As the Europeans can tell you, personal experience of unprecedented flooding events will change your understanding of the impacts of climate change. Unprecedented fires also have the same effect.

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      Yonniestone.

      Much like unprecedented gullibility, lies, and stupidity from the past 30 years.

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      Kim

      I can remember back in 2001 in England there were massive flooding problems. Nothing to do with climate change. It was a combination of building on flood plains and greenie policies preventing traditional clearing of waterways.

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        Analitik

        Yes. I believe that regulations limiting dredging was a reason out forward for Brexit (amongst the multitude of others)

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      TedM

      Unprecedented flooding: data says no
      Unprecedented fires: data says no.
      Only politicians and jornalists see everything that’s severe as unprecedented.

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      Richard Owen No.3

      Perhaps they could advise the German bureaucracy on taking pre-cautions. They didn’t realise heavy rain would cause flooding, as it did in 1999, 2002 and 2012. After all they only had 4 days warning.
      Belgium and The Netherlands just evacuated people but there wasn’t time to hold meetngs about the impact of climate change.

      I note that there was an increase in floods in the 1880’s and late 1940’s — oddly enough just as the climate the weather got colder.

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        el gordo

        ‘ … floods in the 1880’s and late 1940’s …’

        First there is flooding and then the beast from the east turns up.

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      Raving

      Flood plains are such beautiful places to live. How quickly people forget they are plains for a reason!

      Slopes of volcanes (Naples) and earthquake fracture zones (Istanbul) are other attractive loctions for cities. People forget/ignore about that too, notwithstanding repeated reminders.

      Heck., just look at Japan. The whole country is built on a nexus of natural disaster to the extent that it has shaped Japanese culture. Still they build and rebuild. In a way, the perserverence is their triumph

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      Harves

      So, does that mean you are supportive of the NSW government’s plan to raise the height of Warragamba Dam? Despite leftists opposing it? Which is it? Side or principle?

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      David Maddison

      I doubt the claim is true that there is an increasing flood frequency, but assuming it’s true:

      Here’s a clue. Never buy property in known flood risk areas. Always check flood risk maps.

      I have NEVER bought a property in a known flood risk zone. Why would you?

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        OldOzzie

        Always check flood risk maps. – yep just did that for Mackay purchase.

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          Sambar

          Works for fire risk too. Interestingly our current home is 200 vertical feet above the river, yet our home insurance provider demands we have flood cover. They will not come out and survey the risk which is non existent. Bush fire risk is also very slight yet we are in a “high risk’ area. We are on very open country and meticulously keep grass and regrowth down. No matter how good our defences just keep paying.

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        David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

        It’s also quite a good idea to look around the place you’re thinking of buying and consider some of those nasty “what ifs”. Some people seem to buy on the facilities in the kitchen rather than the risk of flood or fire.
        Cheers
        Dave B

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      David Maddison

      BTW Peter, your climate catastrophist heroes in US Obama, Gore, Gates, Kerry and in AUS Turnbull, Rudd, Flannery all live in waterfront properties. (I’m sure I’ve missed some.)

      Don’t you think that if they actually believed their own BS they’d actually move to high land?

      Don’t you ever think they’re lying to you Peter and using you?

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      Kalm Keith

      It certainly will; and we must remember that anything that is “unprecedented”, is absolutely without precedent and so there’s nothing we can be sure about.

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      clarence.t

      What a load of arrant rubbish, yet again !

      Floods happen, they have happened before, and will happen again

      The whole of any river valley is formed by past floods ..

      Just look at the ground the house in the first and third pictures of your link.. alluvial deposits. Build next to a river, on the major flood plan.. eventually you get flooded. That’s how the plain was formed. Were you unaware of that?

      Look at where the road is built in the second picture, on flood deposited ground. The whole cliff was formed by flood action.

      Please stop displaying your total lack of awareness of basically every facet of natural science, Peter.

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        David Maddison

        Well said clarence.t. The answer is staring Peter and other climate catastrophists right in the face and they missed it.

        That flood damaged house is actually BUILT ON A RIVER BED! Morons!

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          Greg in NZ

          The storm which caused flooding in the northern half of the South Island the past few days, inundating towns BUILT ON ANCIENT RIVERMOUTHS – the Buller and the Wairau – also caused freezing snow blizzards for Australia’s high country.

          I’m confused: do we blame globalist warming? global cooling? or is it merely a case of wild winter weather? Hint: rhetorical question.

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            clarence.t

            It is of course, the major problem that Bangladesh constantly faces.

            Also New Orleans.. ie the delta city.

            And several other major cities in the world.

            And the climate whingers make full use of the fact.

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            Sambar

            Gave the 5 month old pup his first run in the snow yesterday. Took him quite a while to realize he couldn’t eat it all ! He also thinks I set him up to walk on a wide, deep puddle that was only frozen for the top half inch. I’m reasonably certain this dog can swear, and, it was directed at me !

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      clarence.t

      “Unprecedented fires also have the same effect.”

      LOL! that furphy again.. proven wrong every time.. yet you still persist.

      Illustrating a total non-capacity to accept facts, truth or reality.

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      PeterS

      PF, why are you continually sprouting so much BS here? Are you practising to get elected as PM one day?

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      yarpos

      Cant signal your virtue unless you have a climate realted unprecedented tipping point plan. Future dusty shelfware.

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      Ian

      PeterF i usually agree with you but you are or seem to be confusing weather with climate. I live in Fremantle where at the moment it is bucketing down as it has been doing for most of this month.

      Total rainfall to July 18 was 173mm which is sightly more than the average monthly total of 168mm. On Monday July 5 we got 44.6 mm which is considerably more than normal and large parts of Perth were flooded. But this is weather not climate change as are the floods in Germany.

      This is what the IPPC has stated, admittedly some time ago

      Europe: flood frequency trends in the past
      in 2012 the IPCC concluded that there is limited to medium evidence available to assess climate-driven observed changes in the magnitude and frequency of floods at a regional scale because the available instrumental records of floods at gauge stations are limited in space and time, and because of confounding effects of changes in land use and engineering. Furthermore, there is low agreement in this evidence, and thus overall low confidence at the global scale regarding even the sign of these changes. There is low confidence (due to limited evidence) that anthropogenic climate change has affected the magnitude or frequency of floods, though it has detectably influenced several components of the hydrological cycle such as precipitation and snowmelt (medium confidence to high confidence), which may impact flood trends (57).

      Despite the considerable rise in the number of reported major flood events and economic losses caused by floods in Europe over recent decades, no significant general climate‑related trend in extreme high river flows that induce floods has yet been detected (7).”

      https://www.climatechangepost.com/germany/river-floods/

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        Harves

        Despite the considerable rise in the number of reported major flood events and economic losses caused by floods in Europe over recent decades, no significant general climate‑related trend in extreme high river flows that induce floods has yet been detected (7).

        Well said Ian. The hint is in the phrase “number of reported”. Peter thinks that just because he sees more pictures of floods on his Fraudbook newsfeed, it corresponds to more events.

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      el gordo

      ‘ … unprecedented flooding events will change your understanding of the impacts of climate change.’

      That is true, a meandering jet stream creates more H2O and the opportunity for increased flooding worldwide. Also, lunar tidal forces in the coming decade should exacerbate the problem.

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      John R Smith

      How many ‘surges’ are we up to now?
      At least as many as ‘hottest ever’.

      I’m slow, but I’ve learned a basic truth.
      Authority identifies a potential threat.
      Authority takes draconian steps to save population.
      (Conveniently adding to Authority’s authority.)
      Population rebels against draconian steps.
      Authority blames refusal to submit to draconian steps as the reason for draconian steps.
      The average person accepts this argument.
      And as George Carlin said “half the population is dumber than that”.
      The other half are conspiracy theorists.

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        another ian

        “How many ‘surges’ are we up to now?”

        “Surges”?

        Aren’t those the things you try and make with a “slurpenglurper” when you have a drain problem?

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      Fran

      Cases, cases, cases. Stop worrying and avoid being a guinea pig for untested medicines. Some 90% of those with serious covid seem to have low vitamin D. That is something everyone has control over. The Gubmint wants you scared, so they say stay home till you cannot breath.

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    Peter C

    Ten Minute Turnaround Test as Care Staff Clock In
    The Weekend Australian.

    Widden Aged Care in Glenfield, Sydney has begun daily testing of its patients and staff using a rapid antigen test which gives results in ten minutes.

    The article states that the tests are 95% accurate for symptomatic people and 50-60 percent accurate for non symptomatic people. Given the controversy about over diagnosis by the overly sensitive PCR test that seems like good results.
    More over the tests are cheap so the testing can be done every day or even twice a day if needed.

    I don’t understand why they are not being widely used.

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      PeterS

      Once they can do tests that take only a few seconds, the police might be told to carry out random tests along with their current random tests for alcohol and drugs. If found positive; off to an isolation cell. If it is allowed to get that far, we will then know the will of the people to stop the increasingly draconian life style being forced upon is has all gone.

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      RickWill

      Daily testing for alcohol has been common practice at Australian mines for more than 20 years. It may become common practice for daily Covid testing at care facilities. I know that Victorian schools were doing daily temperature checks last year.

      The current Victorian lockdown avoided my grandson from being at a pre-school last Friday that now requires teachers, students and their families present earlier in the week to isolate for 14 days.

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        Chad

        RickWill
        July 18, 2021 at 10:32 am ·
        ……. I know that Victorian schools were doing daily temperature checks last year.

        Yes, temperature checks (contactless IR guns), were in use at several local locations, such as our Sports Club,..during the previous outbreak, but seem to have dissappeared this time around.
        …I assume they have been shown to be unreliable ?

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      another ian

      Is that the one where a drop of something acidic like Coke or fruit juice gets you positive?

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      Graeme#4

      A 10-minute low-cost test has been available for many months. I believe that it wasn’t approved for use by the FDA was that it was only 90% accurate.

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    TdeF

    “Science is fundamentally a system based on peer review. When it comes to scientific advice of any kind, transparency is essential.”

    This is a public statement reported in the London Telegraph by Sir David King, former chief scientific adviser to the UK goverment. According to WIkipedia, he is also head of head of the “Climate Crisis Advisory Group”. I think the name might be a give away.

    Basically this is wrong.

    Science is based solely on the truth. People’s opinions do not matter. It is only in areas where there is doubt that peer review is used to establish that research is valid and evidence based conclusions are plausible and they could still be completely wrong. It only takes one fact to prove a consensus opinion completely wrong. Facts cannot be argued.

    Take man made CO2, the essential precondition for man made Global Warming, the precondition for the indefinable man made Climate Change and that leads on to the Climate Crisis/Extinction which is costing the planet $1.5Tn a year to control Carbon Dioxide.

    As you can radio carbon date CO2, you can prove by direct measurement that the amount of man made CO2 in the air is under 4%. We have know this since 1958 when it was 2.03%+/-0.15%. And at no time has anyone proved otherwise. That’s 63 years unchallenged. Claims that Peer review defines science is nonsense, a crutch for opportunists and a favorite for Climatebaggers who talk of consensus science. David King is a chemist. He knows better but you do not get the job, fame, fortune and a knighthood if you contradict politicians.

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      TdeF

      “Facts cannot be argued.” That was the basis of Rational science starting with Rene Descartes. He imagined a world built on demonstrable evidence based facts, starting with mathematics. It was a crazy dream, but he was right. Consensus science was not science at all but religion.

      In the 21st century in Western democracies, we are in a brave new world of irrational science where everyone is a Climate Scientist, not one a meteorologist. Even the Australian chiefs of banking have decided they want coal mines to close by 2025 so they are refusing loans and the overseas banks are doing the same, if only because they always want an Australian bank to assess the risk. Coal loans are forbidden by this anti carbon dioxide cartel.

      So we are on a path to the rapid death in three to four years of our second biggest export on the basis of popular consensus pub pier reviewed science fiction (JCU). And these exemplary moral bankers are killing their shareholders profits, shutting country towns , killing hundreds of thousands of jobs, closing regional branches and destroying an entire commodity to show their friends that they are once again the most caring of people.

      It shows how far the world has come from Rational science. We now have an anti coal religion, soon to be an anti gas religion and then anti farming. We will just buy food, cars, aircraft, petrol, diesel, plastics, electronics, wood, steel everything overseas with our money from what exactly?

      It does not matter to the bankers. It’s not their money. And with top jobs paying $40,000 a day for ‘working’ from home and home schooling the children, it’s a picnic. And they can retire overseas. It’s nice at the unelected, unearned top. And they are wonderful happy moral caring people, but miners, farmers and manufacturers will be shown the door.

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        Serp

        And there’s no Periodic Table being taught in year twelve Chemistry here in Victoria which ought to hasten the death of rationality; instead students are to be indoctrinated with Green Science and study recycling in a sustainable world –to me Green speaks of illiteracy and innumeracy and thus Green Science is one of those oxymorons –Ignorant Science would be a better caption.

        Just another reason for leaving Victoria. But don’t go to Western Australia as their premier has run amok and is a bigger sinophile than our somewhat crestfallen Dan of the lost OBOR.

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    Jock

    Yesterday wind on the east coast nem produced 5.2 gw. Today 1.7 gw. In April it was down to 0.1gw, for periods. What doesn’t the aemo ceo understand about intermittent renewables?

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    David Maddison

    As bad as Daniel Andrews is, the Victoriastani people are so dumbed-down, he’ll probably get re-elected. Frightening!

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      PeterS

      That’s the way it was all fabricated for a long time now. It works very well! As I said many moons ago, things will deteriorate so badly one day the people will beg for a draconian takeover by say the CCP. We are getting closer to that point very gradually so that it won’t be such a shock to most people.

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      Harves

      I have friends in Victoria who absolutely agree with these regular lockdowns despite not a single covid death in the state for 8 months. Of course none of them have ever lost a single days pay whether they work or not during lockdowns.

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        yarpos

        Yep there are definitely a class of people who love this stuff. Most of them public service and govt benefit aligned, not so much small business owners and the self employed.

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          Harves

          This is not surprising when Dan pays his loyal ‘private servants’ an extra allowance to work in their pyjamas … while the private sector suffers daily. Once you have more than 50% of the population getting their pockets lined by Govt (either in salaries or welfare) the chances of the Govt being voted out is significantly reduced,

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            TdeF

            And pay rises for working at home during an economic collapse. That’s other people’s money he’s handing out.

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      Analitik

      I’m on an online chat group right now that consists almost wholly of white collar professionals and an making myself a pariah. I have mentioned ivermectin a couple of time previously and have been mocked as the consensus is that vaccination is the only way we have of dealing with COVID-19.

      Now I’m bringing up Israel’s infection rates for those vaccinated vs those recovered from previous infection. I wonder how they will spin it since I am presenting what the figures are.

      I’m tempted to post up the Chris Martenson video of the Delta strain (+ ivermectin in India)
      https://www.peakprosperity.com/the-delta-variant-spreads-among-the-vaccinated/

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    RickWill

    The ITER fusion experiment is a humungous money eater that has ever increasing time line and budgets.

    This is an interesting presentation on work at MIT to reduce the scale of plasma confinement technologies:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkpqA8yG9T4
    Not the easiest of videos to watch but some interesting detail on plasma confinement.

    Then there is some interesting progress being made using different confinement approach where the plasma instabilities are used to good effect:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ajqD0hoOMw
    LPPFusion are ahead of others in the plasma temperature so far achieved. The following has a recent review of the technology:
    https://lppfusion.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Evaluation-of-LPPFusion-Dense-Plasma-Focus-Research-July-1-2021.pdf

    Another small scale fusion technology firm, General Fusion, is now getting serious funding to build a demonstration plant in the UK:
    https://generalfusion.com/technology-magnetized-target-fusion/
    Jeff Bezos is backing this group.

    I have some hope that fusion experiments will produce more energy than they consume within this decade. That makes it interesting times. Without commercial fusion energy I foresee ever increasing energy costs.

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    Analitik

    FYI, Here is a local online source for human grade ivermectin with no prescription required.

    https://www.genericsaustralia.net/prescriptions/how-to-buy-stromectol-in-australia.html
    I have no affiliation with this site – the price for the 3mg tablets is higher than at discount pharmacies but the 6mg tablets are not much more and are needed for the recommended dosages, anyway.

    Usage guidelines from The BIRD Group and The FLCCC Alliance suggest 0.2mg / kg weekly for prophylaxis and daily for a week (maybe increased to 0.3mg /kg) for early onset treatment.

    https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf
    https://bird-group.org/i-mass-protocol/
    https://bird-group.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/LK-protocol-v2.pdf
    https://bird-group.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/MGJS-protocol-rev1.pdf

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      David Maddison

      For reference I paid $46 For 8 pills at my pharmacist with prescription. Make sure you find a GP who has a clue, most don’t follow the science. Mine does. It came as two 4 pill boxes of 3mg pills.

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        Analitik

        You’re lucky then. My doctor told me he was “following the science” when I brought up Texas’s reopening without a CoViD-19 case surge a few weeks ago.

        I’m sure that there are many with doctors like mine which is why I put up this link and at $57 for 8 x 6mg tablets, their price is comparable actually, especially if you factor in the cost of the doctor’s appointment to get a script.

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        Len

        How many tablets for 90 kgs body weight?

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          Analitik

          90kg x 0.2mg = 18mg => 6 of the 3mg tablets or 3 of the 6mg ones.

          The mute red thumber disapproves of your enquiry!

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      OldOzzie

      Thanks Analitik – copied and saved as PDF from Notes

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      PTR

      I had this source listed as a fall back keeper for months. Being that, and so as to validate my survival plan, I felt the need more recently to do an authentication check. I googled the manufacturer’s name as can be found on the tablet wrapping. IIRC the 2 brother owners made a lot of money from producing product of questionable quality. The business is now under different management. If this product is to be regarded as a potential life saver, then quality has to be taken as a given. I deleted the link. As a side issue, it is difficult to determine, but it may be that the product is imported on order, and not existing Australian stock. If that be the case, then getting such through customs need also be considered. Ha, but then you may be set with yours and I still just scratch my head.

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        Analitik

        The Japanese drug maker Daiichi Sankyo bought Ranbaxy back in 2014 and the local distribution arm is in North Sydney so I doubt there is anything to worry about

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          PTR

          Thanks, I obviously didn’t follow the transition through far enough

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          Furiously Curious

          I took a look at this company (Generic Australia) and it looks to me that they are in India. There is another site Liabilus.com that has almost identical format, and that is definitely Indian. Good luck on getting them through customs.

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    Lance

    As Jo is somewhat physically impaired at the moment, perhaps those who are able might buy her a chocolate?

    I’ve done so and would believe she might could use some chocolates about now.

    Thanks for any chocos that are able. 🙂

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      Hanrahan

      I use an ad-blocker. Would this deprive Jo of revenue? I would white list this site if it helps.

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        Lance

        Not sure. Jo has links, so I’d suppose if you click them, she might get a pence. But as there aren’t those blinding “in your face” adverts that need to be blocked, I don’t think it matters.

        Whitelist her site and see if it makes a difference. My guess is no it won’t, from your end. If it does, then revert.

        I don’t think Jo plays games. Wouldn’t be in character at all.

        If one can afford it, a chocolate here and there would likely be appreciated.

        If not, we are probably Cousins of the Broke Clan. 🙂

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          Hanrahan

          I’m not broke but I have a big expense coming, I know not when or how much. I have bought some chocs with some of the stimulus money though.

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      yarpos

      good thought

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        yarpos

        there is an invitation at the final step to add a $1 donation to the Australian Conservation Foundation to “solve climate change” I cant imagine too many takers among Jo user base.

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    Dasha

    Hey, does anyone here find the supposed 99.5% figure quoted regarding unvaccinated deaths in the USA a little off? According to someone’s data people dying “of” C19 make up 99.5% of all those deaths. My BS meter is spinning at the moment but can’t find any way to verify the statement. Anyone else got an idea?

    The UK doesn’t seem to be like this.

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    OldOzzie

    The Undergrad Who Found China’s Nuclear Arsenal

    What A Hobby

    In what I believe is his only interview about the incident, Eveleth told me about his process, and we covered it here in a larger story about all the goings on in the private space industry and what is now possible in Low Earth Orbit.

    As we explain in the piece . . .

    The swath of land Eveleth decided to search stretches across thousands of miles of Chinese desert. Until very recently, hardly any satellite images would exist for this territory. Imaging satellites are costly and rare commodities, and they’re generally focused on areas of high-interest, not empty, arid land. Planet Labs, however, created a new kind of small, low-cost imaging satellite and put up so many of them that it can take multiple pictures of every spot on Earth, every day. In this case, Planet had years’ worth of pictures of the area in question, and Eveleth was ready, willing and able to scour them pixel-by-pixel.

    At 8 a.m.on the 27th, Lewis and Eveleth contacted Planet to see if they could use a larger breed of their satellites to take even higher-resolution pictures of the area with the domes. Planet could.

    Over the next day, Planet’s engineers sent radio signals from their ground stations on Earth to their satellite constellations. The computers onboard the machines received the signals, and the satellites turned on machinery known as reaction wheels to change their positions and orient themselves better toward the target. While traveling at 4.7 miles per second, the satellites then took rapid fire shots of the desert. Radios transmitted the images back to Earth where they were decrypted and then processed by Planet’s software. At 8:46 a.m. on the 28th, Lewis and Eveleth were able to log in to Planet’s service and see not just the domes but also trenches, for communications cables, leading out from underground facilities where the military likely has its launch operations.

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      One has to be careful with giving “V for Victory” sign – remember that Churchill usually gave it while holding his cigar – which gives you the appropriate finger orientation for that

      Notice in that photo above that the woman on the front right seat is giving you the Commonwealth “Two to the Valley” sign – which is equivalent to your single finger salute

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    Lance

    A bit of history. On 17 July, 1918, about 1 AM, Tsar Nikolai II Alexandrovich Romanov and his wife Empress Alexandra and their five children: Olga, Tatiana, Maria, Anastasia, and Alexe was executed by the Bolsheviks, ending the Romanov dynasty.

    https://www.executedtoday.com/2008/07/17/1918-tsar-nicholas-ii-romanov-russia/

    Nothing about the Bolsheviks has changed.

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      TdeF

      Russia has changed. And I have been to the grand church built on the site of the house in Ekaterinburg and they have incorporated the site of the basement in the demolished house as a crypt. All these Romanovs are now saints in the Russian Orthodox church.

      However the Bolsheviks were just the local member and his brutal thugs with guns who acted without orders, although many believe Lenin was involved. Evil as he was, I doubt it. The Royal family was worth much more alive but it is more likely the local boss did it because he could, fame and notice and notoriety. Millions died in the civil war but this murder was a bit like Mussolinis. It was just random brutal opportunistic murder and in a place very far away across the Urals at the start of Siberia.

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    yarpos

    Interesting trends emerging in the highly vaccinated countries

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1415989536933490688.html

    We will find out soon enough I guess with the current enthusiasm for “not falling behind”

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    I had a quirky thing happen to me during the week.

    Being an old guy now, I was asked if I remember the first Lunar landing by Neil Armstrong, that date now approaching, and I replied exactly.

    I was doing my electrical trade training with the RAAF at Wagga Wagga. We watched the actual landing on the TV in the rec room at just after 6AM on Monday morning 21st July, and later, we came back from Lunch early and a TV was set up in our classroom. It was Monday 21st July, and when Neil Armstrong stepped onto the Moon that first time it was just before 1PM.

    The reply was that I was obviously watching a replay of it, as I mentioned the time and the specific date of 21 July.

    I had to very carefully explain the time difference thing.

    It’s amazing how few people are actually aware of time.

    I get the same with JFK, and how here in Oz when the news broke, almost as it happened in the U.S. it was Saturday morning here. I was 12 years old and we were playing Junior Tennis at the Queens Park club in Southport. We were on the Number One court playing mixed doubles. Our coach and Junior Tennis organiser, Mr Flaxman came out onto the balcony, above the two main courts directly above us and told us to stop playing. He then told us that President Kennedy had just been assassinated.

    I looked across at Lenore, my mixed doubles partner, and asked her who President Kennedy was? No idea was her reply. We found out later.

    When I’m asked about it these days, again I get the response that it was delayed, as He was killed on the Friday afternoon.

    Time is such an odd thing to try and explain.

    Tony.

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      TedM

      I was 17 when JFK was assassinated. I was a short wave radio listener listening on one of my slightly modified radio receivers when I heard the news on the Voice of America. I immediately ran into the kitchen to tell mum and dad. Dad told me it was ridiculous, no one would or could assassinate the US president. I then went outside to play cricket with my mates. An hour or two later my sister came outside to tell me that I was right, it had been on the ABC news. Mum and dad believed the ABC, but not me.

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      Sambar

      No Tony, time, international date lines and such are just not taught any more. I have two grand kids in secondary school, I asked them do they study geography, history, english literature. the answer was no. A niece of ours did not know that the tides were influenced by the moon nor why the days grow shorter in winter then longer. Didn’t know that winter In the Southern Hemisphere meant that it was summer in the northern hemisphere
      No idea that the earth alters its orientation to the sun over the year. Also have a grand niece studying one of the social sciences at university that cannot read an analog clock / watch. If it isnt digital she is stumped. Sadly, I kid you not. Things that seem to have been part of a standard education 70 years ago have simply evaporated.

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      Analitik

      Yes, it’s like discussing 911 with Americans. My vivid recollection is switching on the TV around 11pm to see smoke billowing out of the North Tower and wondering what movie it was and then seeing the second airliner slamming into the South Tower.

      To them, it is quite rightly an unforgettable morning event and they find out hard to fathom my late night memories

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      TedM

      I watched it in the canteen at Watsonia (now Simpson) Barracks. We were given time off to watch it.

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        TedM

        I was a “tech elec” (army talk for an electronics technician) at Watsonia Barracks at the time.

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    David Maddison

    About the Arizona and other election fraud in the US.

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=799853364016761&id=100070588512115

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    TedM

    Thanks for that David. Well worth a watch.

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    Rod

    Just finished this interesting and somewhat disturbing article, which mirrors that which is being said by mRNA expert Dr Robert Malone, and indeed what we’re already seeing in “the vaxxed” worldwide.

    Stephanie Seneff, Ph.D., a senior research scientist at MIT for over five decades, discusses the COVID-19 vaccines. Seneff predicts that in the next 10 to 15 years, we’ll see a sudden spike in prion diseases, autoimmune diseases, neurodegenerative diseases at younger ages, and blood disorders such as blood clots, hemorrhaging, stroke and heart failure.
    “The really worrisome thing, which I talk about in the paper, is there’s potential for it to become integrated into your DNA,” Seneff says. “If that happens, it will last your entire lifetime, and you may pass this new genetic code on to your offspring.”

    https://niapurenaturecom.wordpress.com/2021/06/06/covid-vaccines-may-bring-avalanche-of-neurological-disease-2/

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      Fran

      This author (Seneff) believes that glyfosate (Roundup) is responsible for the increased deaths in the “vaccine rollout” period. If glyfosate was so dangerous, then farmers are the canary in the mine: I do not know of data to support this. Many years ago hair dye was supposed to cause cancer. Funny thing was that investigation of hair dressers did not show any difference from populaiton expectations, and the whole scare went quietly away.

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      Wow… that is certainly an article about something based on nothing. I wonder how her computer science research was received back in the day?

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      OldOzzie

      Thought the first comment was also spot on:

      Job applications posted on the windows would’ve warded them off too.

      Followed by

      It reminds of shopping in the initial lockdown period when the panic buying locusts had cleared out many shelves . At the end of the meat section , there stood an area untouched and burgeoning with goods. Its all the Vegan stuff.

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    Analitik

    The red thumber is a bit late today. Looks like it didn’t get to this thread until after 4:30pm

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    another ian

    “Popular New Ejection Porch Automatically Launches Vaccine Evangelists Into The Stratosphere”

    https://babylonbee.com/news/popular-new-ejection-porch-automatically-launches-vaccine-evangelists-into-the-stratosphere

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    Analitik

    This recent Fairfax article shows how they are skewing the news to promote the vaccinations. It discusses how Aussies living in Seattle are finding life has returned to “normal” and baldly states it’s because of the high vaccination rate there.

    It totally ignores the comparable situations in red states with low vaccination rates and which reopened early or never locked down.

    Of course, the CHOP/CHAZ debacle and other riots and general crime increase with the police defunding are not mentioned at all.

    https://www.traveller.com.au/life-for-australians-in-seattle-americas-most-vaccinated-city-is-getting-back-to-normal-h1x6sw

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    CHRIS

    Read an article today that in Victoria, High School students are going to be taught “Green Science” (whatever that may be ??) and subjects like the Periodic Table of elements will be ignored. That’s the spirit…brainwash/indocrinate the future leaders with socialist nonsense; don’t worry about the real world.

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      another ian

      Further down the skids from Prof Harry Messel’s

      “That bastard thing called General Science”

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        OldOzzie

        Had Prof Harry Messel as lecturer in Distinction Physics 1 at Sydney

        Boring as [email protected] – he even suggested the class take NoDoz to stay awake in his lectures.

        I always preferred

        Professor Julius Sumner Miller – Why is it so? the ground-breaking TV series with the enigmatic Professor Julius Sumner Miller – ran on the ABC from 1963 to 1986. Professor Miller’s infectious enthusiasm for physics delighted, educated and entertained generations of Australians, most of whom have at some point asked each other ‘Why is it so?’ in the characteristic Julius Sumner Miller voice.

        The Lab has found some of the funniest, most entertaining segments from the Why is it so? series, and made them available for twenty first century enjoyment – over both dialup or broadband connections. Now you too can watch some ‘enchanting experiments’ with the good professor!

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    another ian

    Saturday, July 17, 2021
    Saturday not-Snippet: The Day After Trinity”

    ” I don’t think there’s ever been a better documentary movie about the atomic bomb.”

    https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2021/07/saturday-not-snippet-day-after-trinity.html

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      OldOzzie

      I asked Dad once whether, knowing what we do now, he thought that dropping the atomic bomb on Japan had been justified. He unhesitatingly said that it was. He pointed out that few modern commenters had any idea of just how vicious the Japanese defense of the Philippines, Iwo Jima and Okinawa had been, and how it had shaken Allied politicians and military leaders. They knew that if they had to invade Japan by conventional means, they were looking at hundreds of thousands of Allied casualties, probably more than the war-weary populations of their nations were prepared to accept. What’s more, their fanatical resistance could only mean that the Japanese would die by the millions, perhaps by the tens of millions. The atomic bomb cut short that prospect, and ended the war relatively humanely, at the cost of only a few hundred thousand casualties. (My father admitted it was bizarre to put it like that, but on reflection, I think he was right.)

      Perhaps most important of all from my selfish viewpoint is that, if the atomic bombs had not been dropped, millions of Allied servicemen – including my father – who’d just won the war in Europe would have been sent to Japan to do it all over again. Untold numbers of them would have become casualties, and the children they later fathered would never have been born. Dad said to me once, almost casually, that I might owe my existence to the atomic bomb, because dropping it meant he wasn’t sent to Japan and into danger yet again. That’s a sobering thought.

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        Hanrahan

        I agree with whoever’s Dad.

        Curtis LeMay’s firebombing of Tokyo had a higher death toll than either A bomb but it did not convince Japan to surrender. Not even the first A bomb did that. Their military position was hopeless, their only option was to kill as many Americans as possible in a desperate blood bath. Pure evil. They had it coming, in spades.

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          Hanrahan

          Sobering to think that if the Japanese had known that there wasn’t a third bomb they probably would have soldiered on.

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    OldOzzie

    MAGIC BUS

    Speaking of electric vehicles… Possibly the dumbest thing any country could do from an energy standpoint is to promote widespread use of electric vehicles, while simultaneously mandating reliance on wind and solar energy, which work less than half the time.

    Moreover, governments’ politically-motivated reliance on electric vehicles like buses has been a disaster. This is a typical “green” fiasco:

    More than two dozen electric Proterra buses first unveiled by the city of Philadelphia in 2016 are already out of operation, according to a WHYY investigation.

    The entire fleet of Proterra buses was removed from the roads by SEPTA, the city’s transit authority, in February 2020 due to both structural and logistical problems—the weight of the powerful battery was cracking the vehicles’ chassis, and the battery life was insufficient for the city’s bus routes.

    The city paid $24 million for the 25 new Proterra buses, subsidized in part by a $2.6 million federal grant.

    There is no sane reason for any government to buy, let alone subsidize, these vehicles. It is crony corruption, pure and simple.

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      Chad

      Certainly Proterra would seem to have some basic issues there…( cracked chassis from a 2-3 tons of battery is pretty pathetic, as is insufficient range since they have set records with over 1000km on one charge ? ).. but its also odd since Proterra have had EV busses in commercial service for over 11 years,..over 1000 busses currently.
      Either way, the EV bus is a growing business in all major cities with vehicles supplied from many main stream manufacturers

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      Lucky

      I remember trolley buses. Smooth, powerful, big capacity, sometimes packed with standing passengers. Data would have collected/measured on power consumption and energy used for the various types and loads. But I suppose all records have been thrown out along with the knowledge held by old male staff.

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    another ian

    “Israel’s top officials are warning that Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine is “significantly less” effective at combating the “Delta” variant of the CCP virus.

    “We do not know exactly to what degree the vaccine helps, but it is significantly less,” Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett told reporters and cabinet members on July 17. He didn’t elaborate.”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/07/18/safe-and-effective-4/

    And

    “Facebook says it should not be blamed for U.S. failing to meet vaccine goals”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/07/18/time-for-some-popcorn/

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    another ian

    “Whatever the case, we clearly need a New Law of Climate Change:

    Climate alarmism (CA) increases exponentially as time, T, to the next United Nations Conference of the Parties (COP) or atmospheric Armageddon (AA) declines to zero; where CA is measured by the frequency of MSM and social media amplification occurring in a specific period of observation, P.”

    More at

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/07/18/a-new-law-of-climate-change/

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    another ian

    Moderation testing 1

    Israel

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    OldOzzie

    The Panic Pandemic

    Fearmongering from journalists, scientists, and politicians did more harm than the virus.

    If, as seems increasingly plausible, the coronavirus that causes Covid-19 leaked out of a laboratory in Wuhan, it is the costliest blunder ever committed by scientists. Whatever the pandemic’s origin, the response to it is the worst mistake in the history of the public-health profession. We still have no convincing evidence that the lockdowns saved lives, but lots of evidence that they have already cost lives and will prove deadlier in the long run than the virus itself.

    One in three people worldwide lost a job or a business during the lockdowns, and half saw their earnings drop, according to a Gallup poll. Children, never at risk from the virus, in many places essentially lost a year of school. The economic and health consequences were felt most acutely among the less affluent in America and in the rest of the world, where the World Bank estimates that more than 100 million have been pushed into extreme poverty.

    The leaders responsible for these disasters continue to pretend that their policies worked and assume that they can keep fooling the public. They’ve promised to deploy these strategies again in the future, and they might even succeed in doing so—unless we begin to understand what went wrong.

    The panic was started, as usual, by journalists.

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    another ian

    “Plummeting sunny day solar prices are undermining the economic case to build more solar farms – and putting climate goals at risk.”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/07/18/the-lurking-threat-to-solar-powers-growth/

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    another ian

    Arizona audit video here – U-tube – for how long?

    https://richardsonpost.com/harryrichardson/22682/maricopa-counting/

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    Slithers

    Hello Modern Woman.
    Just think back to when such an injury was a death sentence.
    I wish you well and good fortune.

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    el gordo

    ‘The Great Barrier Reef is showing signs of recovery with some of the best coral coverage recorded in years.’ (Oz)

    Who knew? I blame La Nina like conditions and can confidently predict the GBR will be in pristine condition within five years.

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      Hanrahan

      I hope you are right, I fear you are not.

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      Ronin

      No cyclones , no sustained heat events, bleaching being repaired, still the clowns rated the reef ‘poor’, gotta keep those grants coming in I suppose.

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    Spiro

    When someone is diagnosed with cancer, treatment begins immediately. When someone tests positive for coronavirus, the person is told to go home to isolate and to seek medical attention only if he or she gets really sick. All too often it’s too late by then.
    The government urgently needs to look into medicines that can inhibit the replication of the virus in our bodies. As soon as someone tests positive, the medicines should be taken immediately so that people don’t progress from testing positive to getting really sick. There may be no medicines currently available that can stop coronavirus completely, but if they can reduce hospitalizations, shouldn’t we be trialing them at least?
    We could set up Covid-safe dispensaries similar to testing stations (or arrange home delivery) so that treatment can begin as soon as possible.

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      Brenda Spence

      You will be happy to know that there are a couple of doctors in Australia prepared to prescribe the triple therapy of Ivermectin, doxycycline and zinc. You can have your pills sitting at home in case of infection.

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    el gordo

    The German floods, shades of Wivenhoe.

    ‘Officials left dams full to the brim at least 3 weeks long during a rainy period and then failed to undertake a controlled release even when 150 mm of rain were forecast 4 days before the floods.’ (Notrickszone)

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    another ian

    “And in case you want to know what a steel-man argument is:

    https://constantrenewal.com/steel-man/

    “The Steel Man Technique: How To Argue Better And Be More Persuasive” ”

    Via Chiefio

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      Peter C

      Thanks Kim,

      I have watched 5 minutes so far and I can see that things are really bad.

      I hope that law and order can be restored quickly (if not things will get a lot worse). We don’t live off the land anymore, so what happens after all the shops have been looted and there is no way to buy food?

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    V.

    The Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) definition of ‘vaccine’ includes the following statement:

    “Vaccines protect you and the people around you from serious and life-threatening diseases. There are some people in the community who cannot be vaccinated because they are too young or too sick. Widespread vaccination helps protect these people by making it more difficult for a disease to spread.”

    However, the mRNA ‘vaccines’ do not “protect you and the people around you” and “[make] it more difficult for a disease to spread”.

    They do not prevent transmission at all (see UK and Israel data).

    In conclusion, the mRNA ‘vaccines’ are not vaccines. They are treatments. Treatments whose efficacy in comparison to HCQ, ivermectin et al remains to be determined.

    Curious, however, how something that is not a vaccine is being pushed so hard as a vaccine by media and government.

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    Tilba Tilba

    From Common Dreams:

    Climate scientists on Friday were stunned by the intensity of flooding in Germany and Belgium that killed at least 120 people and damaged tens of thousands of homes, with experts saying they did not expect such extreme weather to result from the human-caused climate crisis as rapidly as it has.

    More than a dozen records for rainfall were set across Western Europe, including in Cologne, where officials recorded six inches of rainfall in just 24 hours on Wednesday into Thursday morning—nearly double the monthly average for July. The city’s previous record for daily rainfall was only three inches.

    “This week’s event is totally untypical for that region,” Dieter Gerten, professor of global change climatology and hydrology at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, told The Guardian.

    Aerial footage of Ahrweiler in Rhineland Palatinate showed fallen trees, abandoned cars, and inundated roads.

    Some bad things are are occurring – well within our lifetimes.

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      another ian

      “The ‘climate change’ floods in Europe before climate change”

      https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2021/07/the-climate-change-floods-in-europe-before-climate-change.html

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      Kalm Keith

      Oh the horror, the Humanity.

      This could never happen in Australia,
      especially a place like Wollombi.

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      MrGrimNasty

      Tilba, you always get local records with storms by their very nature. I’ve listed some national records in my comment way above – 6″ in 24hr is puny! Why was some much damage done – incompetent dam management. Why so many deaths – incompetent warning system.

      This has absolutely nothing to do with climate change and is just one of a now scandalous sequence of disasters where authorities have played that card in a disgraceful attempted cover up.

      Google and you will find millions of man hours of documents discussing German flood management/warning systems etc. and yet the dams were brimmed with at least 4 days notice of the expected 150mm of rain and the warning consisted of a last minute facebook post?

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    William Astley

    China appears to no longer care about getting caught attacking our countries and has escalated cyberattacks on all Western countries.

    I guess this makes sense. Our countries are so stupid (For example, the US is led by a leader with dementia/Canada is led by an ex High school drama teacher)/corrupt our internal ‘intelligence’/military cannot determine that covid was manmade and cannot wake up to defend our countries from multiple obvious cold war attacks by the CCP. Twenty years ago our countries/media was free and action would have been taken.

    The CCP are executing an advance worldwide plan/conspiracy to steal trade secrets, spread propaganda like CAGW/Green scams/critical race to sabotage our economies and our countries, and now dominating/controlling every industry in the world.

    That also makes sense. When a country cheats, steals, uses they state industries, and sabotages our government. That country will win and our countries will lose.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57889981

    ‘The UK, US and EU have accused China of carrying out a major cyber-attack earlier this year.

    The attack targeted Microsoft Exchange servers, affecting at least 30,000 organisations globally…..

    Western security services believe it signals a shift from a targeted espionage campaign to a smash-and-grab raid, leading to concerns Chinese cyber-behaviour is escalating.

    The Chinese Ministry of State Security …. ….of wider espionage activity and a broader pattern of “reckless” behaviour. ….. Western governments accuse the MSS of using hackers for hire and want it to sever ties with them.

    The UK Foreign Office said the Chinese government had “ignored repeated calls to end its reckless campaign, instead allowing state-backed actors to increase the scale of their attacks and act recklessly when caught”.

    The White House said it reserved the right to take additional actions against China over its cyber activities…

    ….The EU, meanwhile, said the hack had “resulted in security risks and significant economic loss for our government institutions and private companies”.

    But Western spies are still struggling to understand why Chinese behaviour has changed. If the hackers were authorised to escalate, it would suggest a step-change in what the country is willing to do and raise the fear that they no longer care about being caught.

    That is partly why so many governments have joined together to signal their concerns. Japan, Australia, Canada and New Zealand have joined Nato in issuing a statement in “solidarity”.

    Comment: William: The CCP are escalating because there are no consequences to their cyber-attacks, to their propaganda attacks, to their stealing of trade secrets, to their creation and release of covid, to their attacks/threats/arrests of innocent people on Taiwan/Canada/Australia, and so on. China is winning the cold war and are countries will be bankrupt if we do not stop the loss of industries to China and stop the cold war attack.

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      Kalm Keith

      I would like all Australian politicians to read that message and take appropriate action.

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      Kim

      What I’ve seen coming in from China is pretty weak – pretty basic stuff. But having said that the cobbled together nature of the Internet means that there are a number of holes in the security that can be exploited.

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    On drug testing

    “The real world patients were between 300% and 400% more likely to experience a serious event than the participants in the trials! That is in spite of the fact that the trials, as mentioned above, were using a broader definition of what constituted a serious event. If the trials were representative of reality, then they should have a higher rate of events than is seen in the real world data. Instead they have a rate that is several times lower!”

    More at

    https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/07/19/do-drug-trials-underestimate-side-effects/

    Via SDA

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    another ian

    If you are interested in rowing have a go at this

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_in_the_Boat

    And even if you weren’t (IMO)

    Also gives a picture of just how hard up the “woke generation: isn’t

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