Tuesday Open Thread

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    Don B

    The medical authorities do not want a treatment (or prevention) of Covid-19. An article trying to downplay another article which supported Ivermectin, used tactics such as reversing what a study actually said.

    https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/RomanRebuttal_v7_EF_letterhead_ML-1.pdf

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      Don B

      “Profiled in this space two weeks ago, Weinstein and his wife Heather Heying — both biologists — host the podcast DarkHorse, which by any measure is among the more successful independent media operations in the country. They have two YouTube channels, a main channel featuring whole episodes and livestreams, and a “clips” channel featuring excerpts from those shows.

      “Between the two channels, they’ve been flagged 11 times in the last month or so. Specifically, YouTube has honed in on two areas of discussion it believes promote “medical misinformation.” The first is the potential efficacy of the repurposed drug ivermectin as a Covid-19 treatment. The second is the third rail of third rails, i.e. the possible shortcomings of the mRNA vaccines produced by companies like Moderna and Pfizer.”

      https://taibbi.substack.com/p/a-case-of-intellectual-capture-on

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        OriginalSteve

        From what has been observed, being banned from yooftoob is proof youre squarely over the target, and a badge of honour.

        The left appear to be ruthlessly censoring anything that could critically steer people away from what may to be experimental and lethal medical therapy.

        Putting the bits together :

        Listening to a podcast the other day from trunews.com they made the case that one very populous country had not only developed ethnic group ( DNA ) targetted bioweapons, but also “sleeper” bioweaponry that initially appears benign.

        A comment from Miles Guo , the exiled billionaire, suggested that his intel sources suggest that a T*iwan attack would serve also as a distraction while all western nations are hit with a nastier, new bioweapon. This could occur within the next 3 moths.

        I cant verify this information, so take it as is.

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    OldOzzie

    Coronavirus: Boris Johnson rips up restrictions for Freedom Day

    British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has ripped up a raft of coronavirus measures, handing responsibility back to the public to assess their own personal risk as he confirmed that July 19 will be the country’s “Freedom Day’’.

    Under the new rules, all business will be allowed to re-open, any current restrictions on social contact and distancing is to be abandoned and masks will no longer be required. The work from home edict has been scrapped.

    In a win for civil liberties, Mr Johnson has declared that there will be no requirement for Covid certificates or proof of vaccination to enter premises and any requirement to register at premises through an app or by providing details will also be eliminated.

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      Kalm Keith

      That’s almost so good it might be unbelievable.

      What’s the trick.

      Now, what about the electric battery powered rubber dinghy armada coming from La Fr?

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        OldOzzie

        Mr Johnson, speaking from outside 10 Downing Street, said that running alongside the risks of Covid are the risks of lockdown, including the impact on mental health. He warned if society cannot be reopened in the next few weeks then “we must ask ourselves when will we be able to return to normal”. He said the alternative would be to reopen in winter, “when the virus will have an advantage – or not at all”.

        On Monday the UK registered 27,334 cases, with deaths continuing to remain low, with just nine deaths having tested positive to Covid-19 in the past 28 days.

        But the prime minister warned there could be 50,000 cases detected each day by the 19th July and said the country had to reconcile to “sadly more deaths from Covid”.

        Mr Johnson added: “I don’t want people to feel this is, as it were, the moment to get demob happy, this is the end of Covid restrictions – it is very far from the end of dealing with this virus”.

        Chief medical advisor Professor Chris Whitty said there was a certain point “at which instead of actually averting hospitalisations and deaths, you move over to just delaying them”. He said opening up the country may not change the number of people who will go to hospital or die but may change when they happen. He had a strong view that opening in summer has some advantages.

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      John R Smith

      Maybe he noticed the massive crowds on the streets of London protesting lockdowns.
      I must leave now, for there they go, and I am their leader.

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      Chris

      The twice vaccinated Kate Middleton , who has tested negative 4 times in the last week goes into isolation because someone passed her by.

      Is she saying the vaccinations and tests aren’t work two bob?

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9756677/Kate-Middleton-forced-self-isolation-covid-scare.html?

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        Serp

        The story of the fully vaccinated Israeli student who infects seventy-five classmates fully supports the words of Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus that we must continue with our symbolic PPE, social distancing and the rest of the fatuous chief health officer type directives irrespective of our vaccination status.

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        M. Allinson

        Tedros of the W.H.O. has made it quite clear that “vaccinations alone will end end this pandemic” – all the restrictions imposed now on Kate Middleton will befall ANYONE with evidence of past infection and antibodies and with double vaxx who the contact tracers say passed within 5 feet.

        In short, there will be no return to normal, only to Covid-normal (i.e. totalitarianism).

        https://tinyurl.com/37d4v2kt

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          M Allinson

          “vaccinations alone will end end this pandemic”

          Should read “vaccinations alone will NOT end end this pandemic”

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      MP

      And here is the reason for the removal, crowds at the freedom rallies were estimated between 1 and 2 million, every Saturday.

      50 seconds of bliss. https://www.bitchute.com/video/nlqP4OVAoAmY/

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      Ronin

      This will be interesting, leaving the plebs to their own devices, might unmask the BS.

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    el gordo

    This story is six months old but is still relevant, they are making the claim that La Nina is responsible for chasing the tuna away.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-01-19/southern-bluefin-tuna-fleet-heads-south-poot-weather-conditions/13069576

    Five years of La Nina like conditions could jeopardise the Port Lincoln fishery.

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      RicDre

      An interesting article. I was rather surprised that their ABC didn’t blame the La Nina conditions on Climate Change™

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        Ian

        I found it rather surprising and very refreshing, to see yet another link to the ABC from el gordo. It seems that some commenters here are quite OK with using the ABC as source material rather than referring to it as “their ABC” and dismissing it as a beacon of lefty conspiracy aimed at destroying Australia.

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          James Murphy

          It seems you are incapable of seeing anything except binary choices. In your mind, either the ABC is biased, or it isn’t, rather than the reality that there is bias, but not everything they publish is biased.

          It’s my opinion that people who cant think past such simplistic choices are not the sharpest knives in the kitchen, but do make for a high quality “useful idiot” for whichever cause happens to attract them. Not to say that you are actually an idiot, rather just one of the many who will follow and actively support what they see as the popular view, regardless of evidence because non-conformance is terrifying and wrong, and no more discussion can be entered into. One could even argue that humans got to where they are today, not because of people like you, but in spite of people like you… but perhaps that’s too harsh.

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          el gordo

          The ABC has a green left bent, but putting that aside, the tuna have moved on because they don’t like cold water.

          https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/ocean/surface/currents/overlay=sea_surface_temp_anomaly/orthographic=-223.17,-36.14,2120/loc=130.459,-37.353

          La Nina conditions have been touted as the reason for the vanishing tuna, but not a word on the Southern Annular Mode.

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            clarence.t

            There was a survey done not that long ago, and iirc, some 80% of ABC presenters were Greens voters !

            Hard to find any rational Conservative presenters on their ABC !

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            GlenM

            Tuna don’t like getting flogged. Off we go boys.

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          Ronin

          Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.

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          R.B.

          That does not pass up opportunities such as obtaining Covid-19 vaccines early in the piece

          Are you referring to an allegation that Pfizer said was wrong?

          That understands how to maintain diplomatic relations

          You can maintain it by kowtowing to blackmail. Are you referring to Pacific Nations wanting money to pay for climate change or they will turn to China who is building almost 200 new coal power plants?

          No that I have cleared up your misunderstandings, is Morrison any good?

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          yarpos

          Amazingly, to you it seems, some of us read widely. When dealing with the delusional its good to keep abreast of what they are being fed.

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        TdeF

        La Nina and El Nino are the ‘go to’ explanations when climate/temperature/rainfall/drought predictions fail, as they always do. It’s so revealing that there is a tacit acceptance among Climate Catastrophists that ocean currents are much more important than CO2.

        So it just might be possible that ocean oscillations and solar cycles actually control climates, but the vaunted and infallible computer climate models contain neither.

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          TdeF

          Really what sort of climate ‘computer model’ does not contain and certainly cannot predict the biggest known drivers of climate changes on our planet and focus on unproven, tiny CO2? It not science, it’s CO2 Voodoo.

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            Earl

            And your supplementary question should be “what sort of climate ‘computer model’ overestimate the amount of water vapor entering the atmosphere?”

            The NASA-funded study concluded:

            Using the UARS data to actually quantify both specific humidity and relative humidity, the researchers found, while water vapor does increase with temperature in the upper troposphere, the feedback effect is not as strong as models have predicted. “The increases in water vapor with warmer temperatures are not large enough to maintain a constant relative humidity,” Minschwaner said. These new findings will be useful for testing and improving global climate models.

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              Ronin

              ‘NASA-funded study’, and who funds NASA.

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                Earl

                ? Well if it is green groups they did not get their monies worth since the report highlights that this part of their global warming computer generated modelling ie the rate the globe is going to heat up is overstated. And government groups wanting to justify carbon taxes/green initiative subsidies etc didn’t get their moneys worth either for the same reason.

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                David Wojick

                NASA is a federal agency so Congress funds it from federal revenue, mostly taxes.

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              el gordo

              ‘Some climate scientists have claimed atmospheric water vapor will not increase in response to global warming, and may even decrease.’

              Not sure about that, before the world slips into the next glacial period our atmospheric conditions will be cool and wet, then cold and dry.

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          clarence.t

          That’s because a large proportion of climate/weather variability is caused directly by El Nino and La Nina events, neither of which is influenced by atmospheric CO2.

          In fact, the only atmospheric warming in the satellite era has come at El Nino events.

          There is no CO2 warming signal whatsoever.

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          el gordo

          The waters of the Bight are too cool for tuna at the moment. Not sure about La Nina, might be SAM?

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      Travis T. Jones

      Thank Gaia it wasn’t a ‘human induced’ La Niña …

      Australia to face stronger El Niño weather patterns from global warming

      “Australia to face fiercer El Niño weather patterns – causing severe drought – as a result of human – induced global warming, world- first research led by Sydney scientists has shown.”

      https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/australia-to-face-stronger-el-nino-weather-patterns-from-global-warming-20131118-2xrbl.html

      … or was it?

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        el gordo

        In a land of drought, bushfires and flooding rain, this natural variable cycle cannot change its course because of an increase in a minuscule trace gas. So as we head into a time of fierce La Nina, the cabal at the UNSW won’t know what hit them.

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      Ronin

      It’s not like Their ABC not to slip a reference to gullible warming in there somewhere, somebody slipped up maybe, off colour, early flex off. ?

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    RicDre

    Europe faces global scepticism about its carbon border tax

    From The Global Warming Policy Forum

    Date: 05/07/21 Reuters

    The European Union faces an uphill battle to convince trading partners that the world’s first levy on carbon imports is fair, workable and a necessary part of the bloc’s attempted green revolution as opposed to a protectionist tool.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/07/05/europe-faces-global-scepticism-about-its-carbon-border-tax/

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    RicDre

    Corporate Climate Claims in Australia Now Subject to Hard Regulatory Review

    Guest essay by Eric Worrall

    Back in May, WUWT published an academic claim that weak climate promises could be used as a trap, to leverage real corporate climate expenditure. This scenario is now unfolding in Australia.

    Green claims to be put under microscope

    Angela Macdonald-Smith
    Senior resources writer
    Jul 4, 2021 – 4.00pm

    Companies can expect scrutiny of their climate claims and targets will only intensify, with oil and gas producers right in the firing line.

    While sensitivity around greenwashing claims has been mounting for many months, it is now moving to another level as ESG issues shoot up the agenda for investors, lenders and other stakeholders, and green credentials start to have a monetary value.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/07/05/corporate-climate-claims-in-australia-now-subject-to-hard-regulatory-review/

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      Raven

      weak climate promises could be used as a trap

      Yes, the inexorable pressure.

      They’ll push from ‘climate promises’ to ‘climate pledges’ then on to ‘climate commitments’ until they finally arrive at a position where legislation can be ‘enforced’.
      It’s the same game as played out at every COP Jamboree.

      Give ’em an inch and they’ll take a mile.

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    David Maddison

    The majority of people believe the most frequently washed body part in 2021 was the hands. But in fact, it was the brain.

    Credit: Dr. Simon on Twitter
    https://twitter.com/goddeketal?s=09

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      Ian

      I also liked Dr Simon’s tweet at https://twitter.com/goddeketal/status/1400853162291040263

      “The current #COVID crisis goes hand in hand with #journalism. A bubble of complacent journalists writes what is expected of them and what grants them applause from their own profession and the political and social elite that ensnares them.”

      It seems he is not a fan of News Corp as all of its papers are directed toward the far right conservatives who worship at the shrine of Rupert Murdoch.

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        Harves

        Ahh, the dreaded Newscorp, owner of a few newspapers that we are told people don’t read anymore, and one tv channel that you have to pay to watch. But even that is too much diversity of thought, eh?
        Compare with their ABC’s 5 free to air channels in every capital city and 60 plus radio stations nationally and the countless other leftist news outlets all sprouting the terror of the Delta variant that had killed not one Australian.
        It’s time to come out from under your beds leftys.

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          Ian

          “:Ahh, the dreaded Newscorp, owner of a few newspapers that we are told people don’t read anymore, and one tv channel that you have to pay to watch. ”

          C’mon Harves get the facts. “Owner of a few newspapers”?? News Corps owns around 142 newspapers in Australia.

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            Harves

            Seven capital city papers and their Sunday sisters publications.
            The rest include such politically influential publications as the “Rouse Hill Times” and the “Mooney Valley Leader”.
            And not a single person is forced to pay for any of them.
            Meanwhile I’m forced to pay for the climate and covid alarmism of every single ABC tv and radio station.

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              TdeF

              There are very strict laws applying to media ownership in each area, press, television, radio. These laws are explicitly to stop any medium being able to influence government. The ABC would be broken into many pieces if it had to obey the same media rules as Murdoch, Stokes and the rest. The ABC is untouchabvle for the very reason the laws were written, immense power over government as we have seen with abuse of Liberal Treasure ‘Joker’ Hockey, shoe throwing, stacked audiences and open contempt. The ABC has outlived its original purpose and metastasized into the internet. It need to be broken up, sold, or at the very least, made to conform to the same laws as News Ltd.

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                TdeF

                You could ask why ABC Television or Radio is called a medium. That’s because it is neither rare nor well done.

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            R.B.

            142? That comes from Wikipedia?

            It has one national paper and a number of regional papers that only differ slightly due to local content. Then the Sunday version is counted as a different paper along with the liftouts within them.

            Then magazines on fashion get called ‘newspapers’.

            The people writing the article in Wikipedia don’t hide their bias.

            Murdoch’s desire for dominant cross-media ownership manifested in early 1961 when he bought an ailing Australian record label, Festival Records, and within a few years it had become the leading local recording company

            Buying ailing businesses and making them successful is only evil to a socialist. Hijacking a publicly funded broadcaster to fight Murdoch is offensive to any taxpayer.

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            Ronin

            What, the Sheepshit Times, or the Logan Leader, give us a break.

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          yarpos

          Ian falls suddenly silent when faced with facts and context

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        clarence.t

        Murdoch is centrist. As are most Conservatives.

        Rational, sensible and pragmatic. You should try it some time, if your “feelings” will let you..

        Its you and your comrades that are so far left that even Marx would seem right wing to you.

        And of course, you get all your information from left wing journalists, which are a very large proportion of the main stream media.

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          Raven

          pragmatic

          – exactly.
          Murdoch backed Kevin07 back in the day . . Gough Whitlam also if memory serves.

          Strewth, even I voted for Gough!
          My excuse (and I’m sticking to it) is that the Govt. of the day had shanghaied me into National Service.
          At the time, we weren’t old enough to vote but the Govt. thought it was OK to send us off to war anyhow. Gough promised to end National Service.

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            Dennis

            I remember a newspaper article when Tony Blair Labour won the UK election, the story was about Rupert Murdoch, Australian Labor PM Keating and UK Opposition LeaderTony Blair meeting for a weekend at Hamilton Island Resort off the Queensland coast for discussions.

            It was suggested that tactics for the UK election was a major topic.

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            Ian G

            Same as me, Raven.
            Plus the fact of the censorship laws, especially regarding Vietnam.

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            GD

            Murdoch backed Kevin07 back in the day . . Gough Whitlam also if memory serves.

            And Joe Biden..

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          TdeF

          My definition of Conservative is someone who does not want to be told what to think. Even in the time of Hitler and Stalin, it was the great weakness of conservatives. They are not activists or firebrands or sheep. They do not speak with one voice. And they expect reason will win.
          Hitler’s party was the workers socialists. But socialist is what Totalitarian regimes call themselves, not what university level children think they are.

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          Travis T. Jones

          Murdoch is a business man and he saw a “small” market that was not being catered to.

          It just so happens that small market was half the population- people who don’t vote for the left.

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        clarence.t

        Ian has MDS !! Incurable..

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        Chris

        That would be the Rupert Murdoch who is pushing 90 and ran off with Jerry Hall. Pleese!!!!!! He has better things to do with his time .

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    David Maddison

    I posted this at the end of the previous topic not realising this topic had now started and once a new top8c starts, activity tends to cease in the previous topic.

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    Consider this. The Australian and many other governments have killed many people by denying them the use of HCQ (according to published protocols such as Zelenko) and continue to do so. At the very least, it would have been harmless to administer even if it was not efficious. I pointed this out to the Fed Health Minister and the response I got was an outright lie saying it was “dangerous” even when used in appropriate doses for short periods of time.

    Like all lies, people, in this case governments and their agents, have to tell more and bigger lies to cover up the previous ones.

    They are now doing the same with IVM.

    We are being asked to take, and likely will soon be forced to take, possibly dangerous and ineffective incompletely tested “vaccines” from Big Pharma.

    There would be no need for any shutdowns or vaccines if:

    1) the vulnerable were isolated and protected and placed on prophylaxis with HCQ or IVM plus supplementation with Zn, D, C etc.

    2) ideally all people were placed on Zn, D, C, with prophylaxis of HCQ or IVM or non-prescription quercetin (which is also a Zn ionophore but has a much lower half life than HCQ or IVM).

    3) spot outbreaks were treated with HCQ or IVM (and others) according to published evidence-based protocols for their use according to Zelenko and others who have developed effective treatments or prophylaxis.

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      OldOzzie

      From Catallaxy Files

      David Bidstrup guest post. This Covid scare is ridiculous
      Posted on July 5, 2021 by Rafe Champion

      As we all sweat on the next round of restrictions designed to save us from the “deadly disease” I offer the following regarding the situation here in SA, the state of darkness.

      The numbers come from the South Australian Covid-19 Dashboard Table Data.

      Currently we have zero Covid cases in hospital and that has been the situation for months.

      Since the beginning of this year there have been 760,000 tests done to identify 249 cases. This is a rate of 3,052 tests per case. If the cost per test all-up, (including the testing infrastructure, labour and lab testing costs), was $50.00 then the cost to identify each case has been $152,600.00 and no one has died and no one is in hospital. There have been a total of 4 deaths in SA, the last being on 12 April 2020 – well over one year ago.

      The grand total to date for SA cases is 831 giving a Case Fatality Rate of 4/831 which is 0.48%. Applying this to the 2021 case count of 249 we should have had one more death but there have been zero.

      In the past few days as the hysteria has been ramped up about the “highly transmissible Delta variant” the rate of testing has gone through the roof and the testing rate is now just under 12,000 per day.

      Since the start of June 2021 to 3 July the number of tests performed in SA is 198,286 to identify 63 cases. Using the $50.00 test cost each case cost taxpayers $157,370.00. And no one is “sick” in hospital.

      The pathetic little people who are supposed to govern the country lost the plot months ago and the fearmongering “health experts” who fan the flames have them in their grip. Somehow they have managed to ruin the country, put future generations in debt and turn the citizens into frightened sheep. It is a great example of bureaucratic group think.

      Australia does not need a “vaccine roll-out”; it needs competent people running the place.

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        Harves

        So $38 million that could have been spent improving the health of young people instead of trying to extend the lifespan of octogenarians. It’s disgraceful.

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        Ian

        “Australia does not need a “vaccine roll-out”; it needs competent people running the place.”

        I don’t agree with the claim Australia does not need a vaccine roll-out but I strongly support his point about “competent people running the place. Hopefully the Morrison government, which is responsible for Australia’s vaccination program, will be not be returned at the next election. It has totally lost the plot

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          Harves

          Yeah, perhaps one of those Labor Premiers could run for PM.
          Dan – killer of 100s of elderly because he gave over security of quarantine to his union mates.
          Anna – 2 cases across the state let’s go into lockdown. 5 cases but there’s a Broncos home game, let’s come out of lockdown. Everyone needs to get vaccinated … oh, except for me. AZ is perfectly safe … oh, no I we’ve changed our mind.
          MMc – one case who’s now in Victoria, let’s lockdown the state.
          Is this the competence you’re after, Ian?

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            OldOzzie

            Anna – 2 cases across the state let’s go into lockdown. 5 cases but there’s a Broncos home game, let’s come out of lockdown. Everyone needs to get vaccinated … oh, except for me. AZ is perfectly safe … oh, no I we’ve changed our mind.

            ‘Hypocrisy’: Palaszczuk blasted over Tokyo trip

            Liberal Senator Gerard Rennick has blasted Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk for “hypocrisy”, saying if she’s calling for international arrival caps to be halved then she shouldn’t be travelling to Japan for the Olympics.

            The Queensland Senator pointed to the inconsistency with her decisions, which seemed to favour major events like State of Origin and other NRL games over small businesses and individuals who were impacted by snap lockdowns.

            “But there’s got to be one rule for all. The problem is last week she cut international arrivals by half. And yeah, that might be the correct thing to do but if she’s going to do that, she shouldn’t then travel herself,” Senator Rennick told Sky News on Tuesday morning.

            “I think that’s where people are a little bit sick and tired of the hypocrisy.”

            He also criticised Ms Palaszczuk’s decision to place domestic travellers in hotel quarantine alongside international arrivals.

            “We should have open borders at least within Australia, and to put people who come from another state where there might be one or two cases in a quarantine for two weeks is just over the top, especially when there’s probably four cases of Covid within quarantine” he said.

            READ MORE: Push for Palaszczuk travel ban

            Petition for Annastacia Palaszczuk to be denied travel, quarantine exemption for Tokyo trip

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              Ian

              “Petition for Annastacia Palaszczuk to be denied travel, quarantine exemption for Tokyo trip”

              I didn’t see any petition to deny Australia’s athletes travel to Tokyo. Why is it OK for them? Palaszczuk claims she is going to assist Brisbane’s aim to host the Olympics in 2032.

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                Harves

                Because they are not campaigning to reduce incoming travellers. Do catch up Ian, or perhaps try comprehending the articles before replying?

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                Ronin

                Hopefully, she can take the Deputy Premier & the Health Minister and the CMO with her and all forget to come back.

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                Ronin

                Because the Olympics is about athletes, not politicians, gawd, it’s like talking to kindy kids, only they are smarter.

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            Ian

            “Is this the competence you’re after, Ian?”

            No, not really. I’m after a government that governs and doesn’t backflip in response to criticism from the media. That understands how to maintain diplomatic relations. That does not pass up opportunities such as obtaining Covid-19 vaccines early in the piece. That has a leader that is not totally self-obsessed. That does not have a vendetta against women. That is not rife with accusations of sexual impropriety against its members and ministers

            And off topic it is interesting to read Pfizer boss suggests third COVID-19 vaccine dose needed after efficacy rates drop in Israel

            https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/pfizer-boss-suggests-third-covid19-vaccine-dose-needed-after-efficacy-rates-drop-in-israel/news-story/1f90169fde67900b1dcef977debc0d90

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            Ronin

            Yeah, let’s pick one out of QLd’s fat controller, Victoria’s Dan the man of Danistan, or that clown in WA.

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              Ian

              “Yeah, let’s pick one out of QLd’s fat controller, Victoria’s Dan the man of Danistan, or that clown in WA.”

              None of them appeal. But Gladys Berejiklian does as do Penny Wong and Tanya Plibersek and Josh Frydenberg

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                clarence.t

                Wong or Plibersek.

                You have to be joking !

                The worst of the worst, irrational communists clowns to say the least !

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                el gordo

                Plibersek and Wong don’t want the job of leader.

                Premier Gladys has joined the renewable juggernaut, with the new zones, but apart from that she is travelling steadily.

                Josh is heir apparent and deserves the big seat, but Morrison is not done yet, he’ll find a way through the fog even with the MSM against him.

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                yarpos

                Penny Wongs attitude adjustment on one of the last election night panels was pure, started out the usual superior, dismissive lefty and then didnt now where to look as she had her a$$ handed to her on a plate.

                Despite all that , I do put her a peg above Plibers and two pegs above Kenneally

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                Harves

                Penny Wong, who, despite being gay, failed to support gay marriage until it became fashionable? Now there’s a woman of principle!!

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            Ian

            “This a repeat posting with one change to the original which was and still is being moderated. I am trying to see if my suspicion as why this is so is correct”

            It wasn’t

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          clarence.t

          Morrison government is by far the least worst of any alternative.

          But you know that, don’t you. !

          Imagine Albo even trying to run a chook raffle . ! lol !

          Morrison’s problem is that he is trying to placate too many far-left agendas.

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            yarpos

            Whiney man would be really in trouble if he had to do anything in the real world.

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            el gordo

            ‘Morrison’s problem is that he is trying to placate too many far-left agendas.’

            Its unavoidable, we live in a democracy and if the centre right coalition wants to stay in power they have to placate the green/left. Premier Gladys is a good example of the genre.

            On the question of energy, we are waiting for the climate to cool before announcing that a China SOE will build a couple of coal fired power stations at Kurri Kurri.

            Realpolitik.

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          Dennis

          Federal Government Department of Health researched and then placed tentative orders for a vaccine yet to be perfected early 2020 and continue to be responsible for procurement and supply to the State and Territory Governments.

          State Health Departments are responsible for vaccination organisation.

          Unfortunately there is often confusion about the rights, powers and responsibilities of our Federation of States system of government, that was formed by the British Colonies and became the Commonwealth of Australia and the Federal Government was established to deal mainly with matters international like Foreign Affairs but also matters like Defence of the nation and various taxation collection, the States also have tax rights.

          Unfortunately the State-Federal blame game that spans the time since Federation gives many people the wrong impression, and politicians like that.

          The Leak cartoon in The Weekend Australian last weekend was revealing, the PM in a car driving along a mountain road and up ahead Labor State Premiers with methods to ambush the PM were lying in wait. The result of the last National Leaders Cabinet that is not a true cabinet, formed by the PM from the Council Of Australian Governments that Labor PM Keating established trying to gain consensus, cooperation between States.

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          Ronin

          “I don’t agree with the claim Australia does not need a vaccine roll-out but I strongly support his point about “competent people running the place. ”

          So that would definitely exclude your mates the Greentards, the Leftards, and Chitards.

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        M Allinson

        ” … lost the plot months ago”

        Or was it that they were given instructions by powerful unseen forces who made them an offer they couldn’t refuse?

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      Scissor

      The video in the following link deals with forced vaccination. In your opinion, is it coming?

      https://www.bitchute.com/video/OFeIeocfflEr/

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      OldOzzie

      2) ideally all people were placed on Zn, D, C, with prophylaxis of HCQ or IVM or non-prescription quercetin (which is also a Zn ionophore but has a much lower half life than HCQ or IVM).

      Yep taking daily Quercetin, Zinc, Vit D, Vit C, NAC, Fish OIl etc, and will restart Colchicine – healthiest one in the in blended 3 generation family

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      Serp

      efficacious

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    David Maddison

    Thought for the day.

    Fungi are neither animals or plants but are more closely related to animals than plants.

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    David Maddison

    I think America has possibly one more chance at survival.

    The Trump Republicans need to massively win the mid terms (if it is even possible to hold a fair or free election any more) and then Trump runs for and wins President in 2024.

    Failing that, America will be destroyed by the Marxists / Democrats, as is their plan.

    I never imagined this would or could happen in my lifetime.

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        PeterS

        They have already moved onto the next hoax; the vaccinations, and have started to implement the next one after that; the alien UFOs hoax. So, we will end up with three frontal attacks. This is not a swamp but a flood. Find your “lifeboat”.

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          David Maddison

          I am wondering what the true purpose of the Pentagon UFO hoax is?

          How does it assist the Leftist cause?

          I’m sure there’s a reason, I just can’t see it yet.

          Of course, those claims of military UFO sightings have been thoroughly debunked by independent analysts. Since it is unlikely that the US military wouldn’t also have analysts capable of working out what the objects were, it is obviously a deliberate hoax. But for what purpose?

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            John R Smith

            GWOT is over.
            Due to Mid East baby boomers growing out of their revolution phase.
            New threats must be assessed.
            Maybe that moon base will finally get built.
            Call KBR.

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            Ian

            “I am wondering what the true purpose of the Pentagon UFO hoax is?

            How does it assist the Leftist cause?”

            It probably doesn’t as the release of the report caps a six-month wait, since a group of elected officials succeeded in including the Intelligence Authorization Act for fiscal year 2021, submitted on June 17 2020, in a $2.3tn coronavirus relief bill signed by Donald Trump last December.

            No evidence of lefty subterfuge in this as it was all well before Biden became president

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              How does it assist the Leftist cause?”

              The hey look over there principle.

              Tony.

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                Ian

                But Trump, repeat Trump, introduced it not Biden. Are you suggesting Trump was saying “look over there” in December 2020?

                The report labeled a preliminary assessment, was compiled by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence in conjunction with a Navy-led task force created by the Pentagon last year. The nine-page study was originally commissioned as part of a provision in the coronavirus relief package enacted by former President Trump last year following a push from lawmakers who cited interest in investigating a surge in UFO sightings by U.S. military aircraft.

                As is apparent the report was nothing to do with Biden.

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                The hey look over there principle.

                Hey! It worked.

                You are actually talking about it, and even using it as a political talking point.

                Works every time.

                Tony.

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                Ian

                “You are actually talking about it, and even using it as a political talking point.’

                Yeah I am as I find it difficult to let uninformed and incorrect comments go unremarked.

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                clarence.t

                “to let uninformed and incorrect comments go unremarked.”

                You would then have to argue against yourself all the time.

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                John R Smith

                “But Trump, repeat Trump, introduced it not Biden. Are you suggesting Trump was saying “look over there” in December 2020?”

                Look! Trump!
                TonyfromOz confirmed again.
                Hysterical.
                Movie ‘Idiocracy’ confirmed prophecy.
                Ian, I suggest more electrolytes.

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                el gordo

                The thing is, the Five Eyes and members of the Alliance are seeking all reports of UFO, this is a game changer.

                It was instigated on Trump’s watch and Rubio carried it forward, squeezing it into a Defence Bill. This is bipartisan and bigger than Ben Hur.

                Russia and China will no doubt be collecting their own data.

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            PeterS

            Very simple. It is designed to scare people into relinquishing what freedoms they still have to the “wizards” behind the curtain. Hitler did much the same thing by using first the communists then the Jews as the “threat”. This time the virtual threat will be off world to convince all nations they need to give up their sovereignty in the name of “peace”. President Reagan made a famous speech alluding to such an eventuality. At least that’s how I see it. Time will tell if that’s the way it will happen or it will happen another way.

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              Ronin

              You can see that an ‘ extra-terrestrial’ threat would call for a united effort to combat, al la a One World Govt, just what the Leftards are pining for, so beware.

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            OldOzzie

            OPINION EDITORIAL

            UFO ‘news’ is just clickbait

            By Post Editorial Board July 4, 2021 | 7:50pm | Updated

            Yes, UFOs and “little green men” are fun and have inspired tons of entertaining fiction. But the US intelligence community was entirely right to dump all over the conspiracy theories and “They’re really out there” nonsense in its report on sightings of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP).

            NASA boss Bill Nelson admitted that we may not be “alone” in the universe, but the odds are overwhelming that any intelligent “neighbors” are far, far away.

            The report didn’t explicitly rule out extraterrestrial activity as an explanation for the 144 UAP sightings by military pilots and other federal workers since 2004, but it also provides zero evidence supporting alien theories.

            Connected crackpots and cranks have gotten a few politicians to force the Pentagon to investigate the issue several times and even to hire “believers” for some of the work. One such nut-or-cynic, Luis Elizondo, claims that higher-ups ignore and actively suppress evidence of alien encounters. But the only “evidence” for his claims is a UAP file detailing sightings with no clear explanations.

            That’s hardly enough to convince anyone grounded in the real world that it’s time to start making tinfoil hats.

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              I’m of the opinion that UFO’s coming from ‘out there’ is just a manufactured construct.

              In the 70s, I became aware of The Drake Equation, and hey, even I know that’s just a conversation starter, but it is indicative.

              Perhaps the only person to have come close was Douglas Adams, when he wrote that the Earth was discovered by accident.

              The maths involved is just staggering really.

              The closest star to us (at its closest point) in Proxima b, one of the three star cluster we call Alpha Centauri and that’s 4.24 Light years away, or in real terms 24.84 Trillion MILES away. With the current technology we have, it would take us 162,234 YEARS to even get to that closest Star.

              Conjecture has it that they (euphemistically speaking) might be monitoring our broadcasts, and locating us via them.

              Any broadcast we make takes those 4.24 years just to get to our own closest Star.

              If they have been monitoring our broadcasts, then the very first broadcast ever made is still only 0.1% across our own Galaxy, and we are a tiny Planet of a small Sun out on the edge of a Galaxy, at the edge of the Universe.

              If there is that life out there, then the technology they have is incomprehensibly humungously greater than ours, so, if they even did find us, what would they even want with us, other than curiosity for a fraction of a second.

              They are ‘Unidentified’, yes, but that’s it. We cannot explain it, other than guessing. Make it plausible enough and some might actually believe it. Then invent things to make it seem a little more plausible, like travel at light speed, travel through worm holes, Stargates, etc, great for TV and movies, but again, not actually possible.

              It’s basically the same principle as Paul Keating’s Republic Debate. When in any form of trouble change the subject by bringing up that good old Republic Debate.

              Tony.

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                PeterS

                I agree it’s manufactured, in one of two ways. I believe in demons (fallen angels). So, it’s possible certain groups are in contact with them to develop advanced devices. It’s also very likely the demons have staged sightings of themselves to look like space vehicles from another world. The purpose? Pretty obvious to any believer in the spiritual war currently being played out between God and Satan.

                In any case, if extraterrestrial civilisations do exist then how come we haven’t detected even one signal from them? The reason is simple – they don’t exist. The SETI project is all but collapsed. They even admit on their website “Search for space aliens comes up empty, but extraterrestrial life could still be out there”. Really? The assumption all along was that there are supposed to be countless out there who have already went through a similar process of evolution to reach a similar technological level such that their signals would be detected. We can see the light from billions upon trillions of stars yet not one signal from any of them to signify a planet like ours pumping out radios waves at some stage of their development. Massive fail in anyone’s language. Then there is the problem of overcoming the distances to travel, unless one can come up with a “space-folding/wormhole” approach.

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                el gordo

                The ability to overcome the tyranny of distance and travel speedily throughout the Milky Way is beyond our comprehension, for the time being.

                China and Russia are experimenting with wind tunnels, to produce a craft which can travel at hypersonic speed, but the UFO are already well advanced on that. Also keep in mind that UFO have been documented throughout history by honest individuals reporting or painting these objects.

                There is no spiritual war, but the recognition by world governments that we are not alone, should go a long way to improve international relations. Peace and harmony would follow suite and religious faith take a backseat.

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                el gordo

                ‘ … what would they even want with us, other than curiosity for a fraction of a second.’

                They came here a long time ago and maybe conducting an experiment?

                ‘ … the technology they have is incomprehensibly humungously greater than ours …’

                Yes, beyond our comprehension, but I’ll draw this analogy. When Cook was sailing up the east coast he saw a gap in the sandstone cliffs and named it Port Jackson.

                A man from the Bediagal clan was standing on South Head when he sees this large white bird skimming along the water and heading north. He watched it drift out of view then hurriedly ran back to tell the others what he had seen. The mimics in the mob had a field day with that yarn, until a fleet turned up in 1788.

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                el gordo

                After awhile the locals realised these new comers were not ghosts and they were invited to come into the English camp and inspect. It was reported that they were mystified by a pot of boiling water. One put the tip of his finger in and was scolded, much to the amusement of everyone there.

                We are technological primitives.

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            John in NZ

            I suspect the aim is to conflate people who believe ufo claims with people who think ivermectin might be effective. Or people who question the climate narrative.

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            el gordo

            ‘How does it assist the Leftist cause?’

            It doesn’t, Rubio put it on notice under Trump. This is bi-partisan, for reasons of national security, and the truth is still out there.

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          clarence.t

          Are they aiming to test everyone for alien DNA ?

          With a vaccine of genetically modified joy-juice, of course.

          Or maybe lock the US down to avoid abductions and probing by little green people ? !

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      PeterS

      Even if your optimism comes to fruition, I doubt it will be enough. The swamp is extraordinarily large and deep – in fact more like a flood. Trump even as POTUS will find it’s an impossible task to stop the flood. The evil doers have the option to remove him by a means I dare not mention here. It has been done before.

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    David Maddison

    Two quotes by Matt Walsh about Leftists on Twitter:

    1) Leftism is a religion of self-loathing. It teaches white people to hate their race, boys to hate their sex, women to hate their femininity, Americans to hate their country, westerners to hate their history. What a contemptible, toxic thing it is.

    2) There will never be unity. One side of the divide thinks that children should go to drag shows, women have penises, infanticide is good, and all white people are racist. There’s no common ground between us. I despise their worldview and have no respect for those who ascribe to it.

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      David Wojick

      Not sure who the left is in this diatribe. Certainly not the liberal half of Americans. What % I wonder, and suspect it is low.

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        Strop

        The left being described are those who are self-loathing and want white people to hate their race, boys to hate their sex, women to hate their femininity, Americans to hate their country, westerners to hate their history … all as much as these “leftists” do. They are small in number but have reached positions of influence in our education and political system. There’s a contingent of them who are full time activists / anarchists who want to disrupt a society that expects them to be responsible for themselves and they don’t want that responsibility.

        “Leftism” is perhaps an inappropriate name for this group because both the left and right have a broad spectrum with many of those two groups having a lot of common middle ground. While this “leftism” applies to the extreme but unfortunately by name it implies inclusion of the majority of those who are just inches from the centre.

        As with many things, the noisy few tar the whole lot.

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          Denny

          This is when we ask “Where are the adults?”

          The 60s had a lot of whiners. There was a lot of work to do then. Now it’s that we don’t live in Utopia is the major complaint.

          Things are much better than th wimps want you to believe

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      PeterS

      There will never be unity.

      That is so true. It can only mean one thing – if they ever gain complete domination over our lives, lots of people will be put to death one way or another.

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      Hanrahan

      They are miserable people who cast their miserableness upon the waters.

      I’m a clapped out 80 y old but have more joy in my heart than brainwashed children. No one exemplifies this as much as St. Greta.

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      Analitik

      I saw a statement on American Thinker about the difference between leftists and normal people in online debates.

      We think the left are simply people with bad ideas while the left thinks we are simply bad people

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        John in NZ

        Along the same lines, many years ago I was told that

        “The right think the left are wrong. The left think the right are evil.”

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    Strop

    Friends of Science Quarterly Newsletter No. 70

    June 2021.

    Includes some discussion about the Alberta’s Hydrogen Project and a study of ice cores suggesting pre-industrial Southern Hemisphere biomass burning (natural uncontrolled fires) may have produced aerosols that assisted with cooling that isn’t as prevalent today.

    https://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=84893068&msgid=269066&act=WB3V&c=1777404&destination=https%3A%2F%2Ffriendsofscience.org%2Fassets%2Fdocuments%2F2021_June_Newsletter.pdf&cf=9657&v=1f6df61cd4075ec9ca9e552acf08ab28a3b2fef275a50e3e5fc5c190d426face

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    Slithers

    The Mask Saga.
    First there were Masks, Optional.
    Then there were Masks, Mandatory.
    Then there was a shortage of Masks.
    So people began to re-use Masks that were not intended for re-use.
    So then those pesky virus that were upon those re-worn masks began to infect.
    Then there was a directive that said you will be shot if you don’t wear a mask!

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    OldOzzie

    The Carters’ Advice for a Successful Marriage Is So Simple, Many People Will Never Understand Its Depth

    Former President Jimmy Carter and First Lady Rosalyn Carter sat down for an interview with ABC News recently to discuss a new documentary on their lives together and their time serving others.

    In one clip with the Habitat for Humanity legends, ABC’s Steve Osunsami asked the Carters about the secret to the longevity of their 75-year marriage. If you are engaged to be married or have yet to find that special someone, please pay attention to President Carter’s words here and write them on your heart. You will receive no better advice than this.

    First of all – choose the right person.

    This may seem like simple advice. Even easy advice. Do not let the stark truth of this get lost in the simplicity.

    The best marriage advice is the simplest. Too many people desperate for the loving partnership of icons like the Carters don’t understand that the best marriages take work from the beginning, and part of that work is making the right choice in the first place. In the modern West, we don’t arrange marriages anymore for the most part. We marry for love, and while that is preferable in many ways, it can sometimes rob us of good sense in the early, heady days of a relationship.

    You cannot choose a marriage partner based on being in love with them.

    It sounds counterintuitive to our modern ears, but that is perhaps a big reason why arranged marriages statistically last longer than love matches. In an arranged marriage, both partners are going into the union with low emotional expectations. They do not have to make demands about romance or sex. Theirs is an arrangement decided by older (and presumably wiser) people who have a lot more experience in the dynamics of a successful relationship. Rather than beginning in love, they begin in practicality, and then love grows out of that. Certainly, some cultures abuse the idea, but I think the reader can see what I’m getting at.

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      Strop

      Theirs is an arrangement decided by older (and presumably wiser) people who have a lot more experience in the dynamics of a successful relationship.

      My impression of arranged marriages, is many are simply based on race, religion, caste or class. No analysis of the dynamics except those common attributes by default remove points of difference that can be an issue.
      From there it’s rooted in duty and culture that keeps them together, as well as the need for security (financial dependence) and avoiding shame. The lucky ones manage to develop an affectionate liking for each other and not just exist with a duty to “love” each other.

      Marriages in western culture were outwardly “successful” in terms of low divorce rate until the culture accepted divorce and women were viable as independent people.

      One thing arranged marriages don’t tend to have is the starry eyed honeymoon period. Too many western relationships are artificially held together by sex before marriage, making people think there’s more substance to their relationship than in reality. Insufficient to sustain for the long term.

      My qualifications to speak on this are from years of reaching into the weeties packet for various qualifications.

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      yarpos

      All assumes “lasting longer” is the great measure of success. For some , my grandfather was an example, its just putting up with what you should have terminated long ago.

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    OldOzzie

    Hunter Biden Had a ‘Genius’ Plan to Unionize Prostitutes

    We’re all aware of Hunter Biden’s proclivity for prostitutes. But, until now, we didn’t know that he had a genius plan for the industry.

    According to text messages found on his laptop, Joe Biden’s distinguished son came up with a plan to unionize prostitutes.

    I guess Hunter really wants to look for that union label when he hooks up with a prostitute.

    “You organize without even organizing in any traditional way,” Biden theorized in a March 2019 text conversation with an employee of Los Angeles’s Chateau Marmont. “If you want to advertise legally you go through the unions [of which] you’re a member. Your dues are the fees that you pay for advertising. Whomever does this first will be running the largest union in the country.”

    “Haha, that’s actually pretty genius,” the Chateau Marmont employee replied.

    To join such a union, one would have to prove they aren’t a sex trafficker and that all contacts are consensual. According to Hunter, pimps that join the union would be rated the same way “you rate nonprofits.”

    “In various other transactions with pimps and prostitutes, Biden’s alleged texts show a highly organized procedure in which he visits a website, agrees to certain parameters, and pays electronically,” explains the Washington Examiner. “Biden’s unionizing idea appears to be geared more toward better working conditions for prostitutes because this was his theme in the tape recording about strippers.”

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    Raven

    What the Dandenong Ranges extended power outage teaches us about backup battery power
    Key points:

    People with battery units stayed in power during a mass outage in Victoria.
    People had different outcomes depending on usage and technology.
    One expert said most home battery units are not designed to weather a long outage.

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      Yarpos

      Was discussed a bit on another thread.

      What is interesting is that it has been pulled from the site. Might have strayed off narrative and to far into reality for the ABC

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      Graeme#4

      I am yet to see a financial analysis that proves that you can pay off a solar system with battery backup during the lifetime of its components.

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        yarpos

        the topic was more about being off grid or “saving the planet” rather than a rational financial payoff.

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          PeterS

          If that were true then why aren’t we building nuclear power plants instead of relying more and more on useless and expensive renewables? Hypocrisy of course. Our political “masters” are only interested in their careers, not the nation nor saving the earth.

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            yarpos

            dont know what you are talking about, the topic was the experience of three households who had installed batteries

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        clarence.t

        “virtue-seeking” pays big bucks !!

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      Strop

      Here’s a link to the article. The one above gave me a page not found message.
      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-03/battery-power-dandenong-ranges-tesla-agm-grid/100264988?utm_source=abc_news_web&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_web

      One of the key points not listed as a key point related to the Tesla battery.

      “If however, the Tesla Powerwall does not include the solar inverter within the dedicated backup circuit, the solar inverter will not turn on during an outage, and in this scenario, the battery will be utilised until such time as it is empty.

      “Once empty it will not recharge until the grid power is restored.”

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      Hanrahan

      One expert said most home battery units are not designed to weather a long outage.

      Did anyone say they were? They are designed so that the consumer pays to smooth out the duck curve which they exacerbated by installing solar.

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    dinn, rob

    Every July since 1983 a small group of media moguls, tech titans, investors, politicians and intelligence agency insiders, all gather in the small town of Sun Valley, Idaho for a week of meetings to develop consensus regarding policies for Mainstream media, social media and emerging communications technology. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/top-secret-meeting-media-kingpins-taking-place-week-idaho-mark-dice/
    ………………………………………….……
    Meet Cai Xia, dissident and former CCP prominent member https://balance10.blogspot.com/2021/07/meet-cai-xia-dissident-and-former-ccp.html

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      dinn, rob

      July 2021 BlackRock, Blackstone, Goldman Sachs, Carlyle Group, KKR, JPMorgan Chase, Citi Group, and other investment behemoths that have been pushing U.S.-China convergence for years are upping their ante with billions of more dollars headed to China.
      BlackRock, the world’s largest money-management firm, with nearly $8.7 trillion in total assets, has placed three of its execs in top posts with Team Biden: Adewale “Wally” Adeyemo as deputy secretary of the treasury; Brian Deese as head of the White House National Economic Council; and Mike Pyle as chief economic advisor to Vice President Kamala Harris. BlackRock CEO Larry Fink is not only investing billions in China’s coal industry (while pushing “green” propaganda that demonizes U.S. coal) but is also invested in Chinese companies Hikvision and iFlytek, which are primary providers of the surveillance technology the CCP uses to run its police state. -W. Jaspers https://thenewamerican.com/magazine/tna3714/page/132666/

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        Chad

        How does a private corporation like Blackrock get to “place”. Its own executives into key Government positions ?
        That must be something done deliberately by the Biden administration themselves.
        Appointing experienced advisors would be normal practice for any government, …but as you point out, their personal interests may well be subject to suspicion .

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          RossP

          One of Blackrock’s key “plants’ (sorry I do not have his name at hand) into an influential position advising the White House has also managed to get his wife into the plum job of head of Human Resources for the White House and key Government departments –ie. she can make sure “their” people get into the right positions.

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    Robber

    SA, the “renewables” state.
    Last night at 6pm, wind delivered just 33 MW from a nameplate of 2,142 MW.
    The battery delivered 22 MW, solar 7 MW.
    So what kept the lights and heaters on?
    The emergency diesel generators delivered 167 MW, Vic imports 44 MW.
    Gas delivered 1,941 MW, 88% of demand.
    Yes, let’s stop using fossil fuels and return to the 1850’s.

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      Ronin

      Those ex Tasmania diesel generators are copping a flogging in SA keeping the lights on.

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      yarpos

      made me look at nemwatch, 1.5GW flowing into NSW from QLD and VIC. I would be slightly disconcerted if I was in in NSW pondering Lidells fate. All East coast States over $250 except TAS ($11) it seems winter is becoming as much as a struggle as summer.

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    David Maddison

    This is extremely funny, from the Babylon Bee.

    (Trigger warning for Leftists, you won’t understand the sarcasm. Then again, in the US the Leftist Democrats were the original segregationist and slave supporters…)

    QUOTE

    Racists Make A Comeback With All New Ways To Be Racist!

    A young Klansman brings some new, progressive ideas to the KKK’s table.

    Watch on Youtube:

    https://youtu.be/jPnP9IUMDLc

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      PeterS

      It illustrates that the reason leftist activism has gone so far is because the public in general don’t give a damn. As the old saying goes “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” It’s working very well so far for the side of evil. We the public ever wake up? Of course they will eventually but the timing is critical. Ill they wake up before or after it’s too late? Only time will tell.

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    Brenda Spence

    Interesting article in the Epoch times suggesting that the CCP was developing a vaccine before the contagion started! Hmmm.

    https://theepochtimes.com/timeline-of-chinas-covid-vaccine-development-raises-serious-concerns_3882991.html?utm_campaign+socialshare_email

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    Mark Allinson

    Listen to Dr Charles Hoffe explain how he has discovered through the use of the “D-Dimer” blood test that over 60% of those folks vaccinated show positive, proving that there has been a recent blood clotting event.

    The small capillaries in the vascular endothelial network of the lungs are clotting, but on a nano scale that does not show up on x-rays or MRI scans – but the D-Dimer test does not lie.

    From the 1.16 mark:

    https://youtu.be/GpViJcdJFkc

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    Brenda Spence

    Everywhere we are being pushed to get vaccinated, even the pages of comments to The Australian.

    The argument is that if one is not vaccinated, one should not be allowed to work, travel etc ( how soon will it be before they add – shop?) Unvaxxed nurses, aged care workers etc should not be allowed , blah blah “I will sue my employer if I catch Covid from an unvaxed worker”

    What these silly people are forgetting is that they should have NO fear of the unvaccinated if they are confident of their own vaccination status!

    What is going on here?

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      Mark Allinson

      The authorities are playing a double game here:

      [1]. Everyone get your jab so we can all get back to normal. Implying that the vaxx will confer full protection.

      [2]. Even when we are all jabbed we will still need to mask-up, separate and restrict (as the W.H.O. confirms) because the “vaccines” only help to reduce symptoms, and you can still catch and transmit the virus.

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        Hanrahan

        [2]. Even when we are all jabbed we will still need to mask-up, separate and restrict (as the W.H.O. confirms) because the “vaccines” only help to reduce symptoms, and you can still catch and transmit the virus.

        But – But. I thought it would be a good thing, ideal even, to have an attenuated virus circulate. Isn’t a proper vaxx an attenuated virus?

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        Tel

        On point #1 they are making an unsubstantiated claim about a therapeutic treatment. The ability of the vaccine to prevent the spread has not been verified by any trial.

        There is some anecdotal evidence that it does but this is not quantifiable … and anyway it changes as the virus mutates.

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    Jason

    Can anyone post a good chart comparing 1 -200 years of warming / rising sea levels to atmospheric Co2?

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      Kalm Keith

      On that timescale it’s unlikely that any useful detail would be visible.

      On the other hand I have seen reference to CO2 levels being monitored above crops from a tower. The main detail that comes to mind is that every night the reading was 1250 ppm and presumably went back down to normal levels through the day.

      It would be an interesting study to dig up again; perhaps CO2 levels might go below normal levels during the sunlight hours.

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      John R Smith

      Jason, my experience since becoming a denier, is that the sea level rise is a rabbit hole.
      Of course seal levels have risen since the last Ice Age and will likely do so until the next one.
      Looking at tide gauge records and stuff is all over the place.
      The plates (land) are moving faster than sea level.
      Have you ever been to the Outer Banks of North Carolina USA?
      You can drive for many miles and see the Atlantic 200 yards away on one side and the sound 200 hundred yards away on the other.
      If sea levels had risen by any measurable level in the last 100 years there wouldn’t be so many 10,000 square foot mansions on the Outer Banks.
      (The folk building those mansions hope we don’t notice.)
      Some of the the more knowledgeable people here may point you somewhere, but I don’t think honest data for what you ask for is possible.

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        Kalm Keith

        Sea levels have fallen 1200 mm in the last 2000 years.

        That’s a known, accepted, verifiable fact.

        In the last 100 years there’s been no discernible bounce back.

        Sydney harbour, at fort Dennison, has a very reliable record that gives no indication of dangerous sea level rise.

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          John R Smith

          Ya know KK, you are right.
          Sterling Bridge
          Thermopylae
          Mont St. Michel
          Ostia
          Shame on me for spitting out standard narrative drivel.
          I actually know better.
          So there Jason, no freaking data exists for seal level rise in the last 200 years.
          Ice Age on the way?

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    Hanrahan

    My daughter, who follows these things, just told me Paul Vaughn, a St George footballer who hosted an after match party last weekend has had his $800 grand contract torn up.

    Power corrupts ………

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    Analitik

    Even the ABC is (quietly) admitting that the Delta variant of CoViD-19 is resulting in lower rates for mortality (and almost certainly hospitalization, as well)

    “Looking at the 28-day follow up after infection, the death rate for the original variants was 1.9 per cent mortality,” he said.

    “So far the Delta variant is showing 0.3 per cent mortality

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-02/delta-coronavirus-variant-symptoms-vaccines-spread/100255804

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      PeterS

      Yet our “masters” are telling us we must vaccinate against this new threat. If and when the next strain comes about and it’s even milder what then if it’s no more serious than the common cold? See the hypocrisy?

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        Serp

        You can see why foil hat thinking about vaccines implanting 5G controllable lipid nanoparticles can gain currency when the sole benefit of being injected is to lessen the symptoms of an infection which most people undergo unnoticed; futile to try guessing what the ulterior motive be but the truth will out.

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          PeterS

          You mean to say you can see why foil hat thinking about the urgency of taking vaccines in an environment where the virus symptoms are by and large non-existent, the number of deaths zero and the number of cases is trivial. I’m more concerned about being hit by a drunk driver.

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        Sambar

        PeterS, just read at News.com. that a new strain , the Lambda variant, is potentially more transmissible and more vaccine resistant than the Delta strain. And so the need to keep the fear progresses

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        Analitik

        Yes, on the ABC news tonight, they had the “experts” proclaiming that we now need to rollout vaccination for kids since the Delta variant is so much more infectious and would thus result in them suffering widespread deaths.

        Danger, danger Will Robinson

        I’m wondering if they will now remove the article I linked about the far lower mortality rate of the Delta variant.

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    David Maddison

    Why doesn’t the traditional vaccine approach of using an attenuated virus work with Covid?

    Also, I am extremely pro-vaccination in general but have zero confidence in the only two Australians are currently allowed to have, Pfizer and Astrozeneca.

    I am waiting for Novovax which is closer to a traditional vaccine in its approach although still does not use an attenuated virus. Supposedly the Australian Government, whom I also have zero confidence in, have ordered millions of doses.

    Dr Been has some good things to say about Novovax. https://youtu.be/Q00lyd3gyy4

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      David there are many reasons the simple approach doesn’t work. Sometimes a killed virus changes shape, or breaks up, and your body forms antibodies to the wrong shapes or parts. Sometimes that can make you sicker when the real virus turns up.

      Other times our immmune system just can’t get excited about a dead inactive thing. So it doesn’t bother.

      It is very complicated to get a strong immune reaction that is effective, which is why we should be using antivirals.

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      Analitik

      The Chinese vaccines use this approach and seem quite poor at protecting from infection. Whether they attenuate its effects is not discussed in what I’ve read since case numbers are the rage.

      No coronavirus has ever had a successful vaccine developed in the past as they tended to cause cytokine storms if a vaccinated animal for infected.

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    Aunty Pravda’s rolling news feed of unacceptable articles for the 6th July – https://thepointman.wordpress.com/rolling-headlines/ #freepointy

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    Hanrahan

    What a strange world. I thought I could hear light rain on the roof, thinking it may have been hiss in my headphones I clicked on the BOM site rather than look out the window.

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      yarpos

      when it doesnt really matter, but you just want to know. I did the same a couple of nights ago

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    Robert Christopher

    Here’s the latest UK Conservative Home NET Zero supporter extolling its untold benefits, where everything can be subsidised (by everything else 🙂 )
    https://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2021/07/sam-hall-how-to-help-poorer-people-meet-the-costs-of-net-zero.html

    It’s the comment section that contains the useful information! 🙂

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    Analitik

    Elron Musk has basically admitted that he’s been scamming the market by selling the Full Self Driving pack option for Teslas over the last 5 years. After missing their June deadline for the next beta release, Elron mused,

    Generalized self-driving is a hard problem, as it requires solving a large part of real-world AI. I didn’t expect it to be so hard, but the difficulty is obvious in retrospect. Nothing has more degrees of freedom than reality

    Gosh! Whodathunk?

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    Dennis

    Do you wonder what our left leaning politicians are up to, and in New Zealand, but in many other countries as well?

    “‘Hardly a coincidence’ political leaders all over the world parrot ‘build back better’ mantra
    May 07, 2021 – 20:03PM

    Sky News host Cory Bernardi says “it’s hardly a coincidence” you hear political leaders all over the world parrot the mantra “build back better”.

    “You may have heard about the Great Reset; that’s the agenda of global elites to remake capitalism in their image and takes its name from the 50th annual conference of the World Economic Forum,” he said.

    Mr Bernardi paralleled The Great Reset’s agenda, according to its website, with that of the Communist Manifesto.

    “It is an inherently evil ideology that destroys human spirit, and only a power-hungry elite, would ever advocate for its re-establishment in the western world,” he said.”

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      Serp

      The build back better fantasy of the short-winded WEF geriatrics will evaporate into a dim memory pretty soon.

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    David Maddison

    In the interests of supposedly going green, China want A to build the world9largest and most environmentally disastrous dam.

    This is a surprisingly balanced report from Their ABC.

    https://youtu.be/gEYuRFJ12iw

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      PeterS

      Balanced in the sense there is only one side to the argument allowed on their propaganda medium. Sad to see a so called Liberal PM still funding the ABC with our money allowing them to continue their propaganda. Actually I’d be happier if the government funded an opposing broadcaster – that would be real balance, not the fake one being supported by our so called Liberal PM.

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      Ronin

      More targets, remember the Dambusters.

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    Raving

    Don’t know how it is in Austraiia but here in Canada there a stretches of highway without petrol stations for 100 miles. A day’s drive can easily be 500 miles per day for several days with few widely spaced fueling points in between. This might be okay for ICE vehicles and trucks and even EVs if they built some charging stations.

    https://thedriven.io/2018/12/14/diesel-charge-evs-remote-locations-greener-than-you-think/

    Cannot image how horrible it would be to recharge an EV 3+1 times a day when a sizable proportion (say 20%) of vehicles on the road are Ev. Say 4.5 hrs per day charging while travelling at a string of fueling chokepoints when only 20% of the vehicles are EV. Petrol fillups are 2 to 3 times a day. People will really hate it!

    The EV profile of making 500 miles per day by car to travel distances is ugly

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      Chad

      Raving
      July 7, 2021 at 6:30 am · Reply
      Don’t know how it is in Austraiia but here in Canada there a stretches of highway without petrol stations for 100 miles.
      The EV profile of making 500 miles per day by car to travel distances is ugly

      Yes we have many trips with huge distances between filling stations, some. Interstate can be several hundred miles requiring extra fuel even for ICEs…you have to plan ahead.
      But 500 miles for an EV is not difficult.
      Most current EVs are capable of 250+ miles,… so start fully charged, …recharge over lunch,..continue to 500 mile destination and recharge again overnight ready for next day.
      Or it could be split with 2 or 3 partial fast recharges over shorter breaks every 2-3 hrs.
      The issue will be nor enough charge points at each rest area fo the EV numbers.

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        Analitik

        recharge over lunch

        So you are essentially forced to have a long break near the range limit of your vehicle at a location that has a relatively fast charger.

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          Hanrahan

          Looking at videos of people doing trips in the US, the super chargers I’ve seen are stand alone facilities, so you sit in your car with the heater on while charging.

          Imagine travelling with the wife and kids and stopping every few hours for a break where there is a Star Shop, it would cost more than a tank of fuel.

          Sorry but my only interest is cost and convenience, along with at least half the population who don’t wish to save the world.

          My last long trip [a few years ago] was 1,265 km in abt 14 hours. My lady had to pee on the side of the road a couple of times. Got a speeding ticket 🙁 I just don’t see myself adapting to the new era.

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        Raving

        So its similar to passing up the “Next fill up for 150 miles” at my own peril, except that most vehicles will be forced to stop and que, no matter the wait time.

        With an ICE its usually possible to jump to the next location given a full tank if the price is too high, the que too long or the wife too impatient

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          Ted1

          The only problem with electric vehicles is the cost of the batteries.

          If EVs come into general use, nobody will sit waiting for batteries to charge. Batteries will be swapped. This can be done as easily as swapping a camera battery, in less time than it takes to fill the tank with petrol, if it is allowed for when designing the vehicle.

          The discharged battery then goes on the off peak demand charger, which relieves the other problem, intermittent supply.

          This can be done with existing technology. But the cost???!!! If we go down that road, there won’t be many homes with two cars. People will ride scooters to work. On holidays they will walk.

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            Hanrahan

            Dream on.

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              Analitik

              Indeed. With the voltage and current involved plus cooling requirements, swapping battery packs is far from physically “easily” done. Plus they need to be stored in a secure (and fire safe) area when while being charged and awaiting their next swap which can be challenging since they are bulky and very heavy.

              Plus who actually owns the battery in this scheme? Some will be in a better state (hold more charge) than others so you wouldn’t want to own the battery yourself.

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        Raving

        Can see the weekend trip to a 2nd home profile adapting. Requires a 1+ hour rechagre on Saturday or Sunday before returning to the city.

        Be harder for a weekend escape to another city/ distant residence driving 4+ hours each out and back.

        Gasoline ques at choke points are bad enough. People don’t even have patience to wait 10 min. When a lot of vehicles on the road are EVs that wait could extend to hours.

        Recharge rage is in our future 😐

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        Hanrahan

        Or it could be split with 2 or 3 partial fast recharges over shorter breaks every 2-3 hrs.

        That is the faster way in America where there are charge points. Watching vids of guys making trips, a disturbing number of charge points are out of order, with incompatible pay methods and are isolated so it isn’t a comfort stop.

        Liberty™ are building large petrol stations in Townsville and Cairns. I’m sure they would be wired for EV charging to come later. Are they building elsewhere?

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        Ronin

        So a trip across the Simpson is out of the question then.

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          Raving

          Nawh, they will just build unmanned diesel powered recharging stations every 100 miles

          If they can stage food drops, dog sledding to the S. pole, Why not!

          Camels are old fashioned. ICE will be banned :/

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          Chad

          A trip across the Simpson is out of the question for 90% of Ozzie motorists.!

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          C. Paul Barreira

          The best report of a trip across the Simpson desert is in a manuscript diary held in the State Library of South Australia. The writer was a nurse with the Presbyterians, the Rev. John Flynn in particular. She told of great excitement in Oodnadatta, I think it was (long time since read) when two women, a mother and daughter, came out of the desert with a thousand sheep and a dog. They had come from Alice Springs and lost no stock en route. This was early in 1917.

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          Analitik

          So a trip across the Simpson is out of the question then.

          Easy – you just need to bring along a large generator as well as the jerry cans of fuel. /s

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        yarpos

        mmmmm because fast chargers will be a thing in the boondocks because electrical infrastructure is so good out there. Once you get out of day trip range things will get interesting very quickly.

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          another ian

          IIRC we’re limited to about 5 hp motors on SWER lines – fast chargers on diets?

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      Raving

      My point being that mandated EV car purchase will have a strong influence on 2nd home distance and vacation/weekend usage due to the time/infrastructure required to refuel every 100-150 miles. Its a fundamental range problem. Spending 1+ hours of refueling for each 100-150 mile segment amounts to a lot of time for a weekend or weekl ong trip.

      Okay I can see stopping at a service center for 1+ hr fill and feed but that is just once a day. Having to do so every 2-3 hours means a daily maximum range of 200-300 miles. This is about 1/2 – 2/3 ICE distance under ideal EV service support

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        Analitik

        Don’t forget that a lot of holiday makers like activities that requires them to TOW their equipment (or animal) and that destroys the range of EVs since, on top of a large battery pack, they rely on aerodynamics to achieve a decent range

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          PeterS

          Not to mention the fact that the source of the electricity is fossil fuel and/or nuclear based depending on the country. Such a farce. Look, I would be in favour of EVs eventually once they iron out all the issues, such as the charge time (needs to be brought down to several minutes) and we have ample supply of electricity, which means either more coal fired power stations and/or start building nuclear powered ones. Unless all that is done, the idea of a widespread use of EVs is a joke and will never happen.

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            Sambar

            PeterS, Newly elected councillors decided that Yea, a town about 70 klm’s north of Melbourne could attract more tourists if it had electric vehicle charging stations.
            So, the town has 2 or 3 charging stations behind one of the supermarkets. Advertised on local radio,” come to Yea, in 10 minutes you can fast charge your electric vehicle with enough power to travel 100 k’s.” After your day out in Yea, you may have enough “charge” to get back to Melbournes northern suburbs but don’t live down near the bay unless you have another quick charge plug you know of.
            I don’t know how often these chargers are actually used, or if they attractor EV uses or not.

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              Ronin

              It doesn’t sound very practical unless you were planning to go to Yea anyway.

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              Hanrahan

              So you drive to Yea, plug in and spend half a day in the shopping centre waiting for your car to be charged. Isn’t there a shopping centre closer home?

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                Hanrahan

                Just looked at Yea on g earth. Couldn’t zoom in enough to see the sheep but is there anything else there? No vineyards for eg.

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                Sambar

                Ha, H, I got caught up in my own “moment” and just drove to Yea to check on the chargers. There are 4 charging stations behind the shops. All bays are marked “Tesla Parking Only”. Now I know its winter, but these parking bays looked decidedly unused, wind blown leafs and just a little sad looking. I asked the guy driving the forklift nearby if he had seen anybody using the stations and the response was a “nah” never seen a car there.
                Interestingly there did not appear to be any way of paying for the electricity dispensed. No card swipe facility, no key pad, just 4 stations and a reasonably large switchboard, transformer to supply the power. Sooooo, who pays. Who paid to instal the facility. Who pays for any power dispensed.
                I suspect the rate payers of the shire are subsidising those rich enough to afford electric vehicles. Hmmm better take this up with council, wonder if I’ll get an answer.
                Now , in answer to your question, there is not a lot at Yea, there is a wet land and a building describing the wetland and a bit of local history. The main claim to fame is this town is a” coffee stop” if you are heading for the snowfields or the lake Eildon area, the locals are a friendly lot.

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                yarpos

                went passed the other day and a falcon ute full of haybales had taken the trouble to park in one bay 🙂

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            Raving

            The remarkable thing is that Australia is ideally situated to take advantage of EV recharge. It can be done during the day, off peak at home or work with smart grid rechargers. Take full advantage of the dynamic surplus electricity production. This is for vehicles not driven during the daytime and off consumption peak with lots of sunshine.

            Got a better use for soaking up that transitory daytime excess capacity?

            The key is to not be too clever about it. Exploit the opportunity of free electrons when they are available and not demand electrons when they are scarce

            Not all vehicles, nor all travel profiles need to be EV. Just having some EVs taking advantage of free juice most of the time they are used helps enough

            Things change. Can do something different a decade from now

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              Ronin

              “Got a better use for soaking up that transitory daytime excess capacity?”.
              Hot water system.?

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                Raving

                Direct solar water heaters have been around for ages, no? Augment with PV electric heating at cooler times of the year

                Isn’t this already done?

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                Geoff Sherrington

                Back in 1952, my Dad & my brothers & I made a solar hot water heater for our roof in Townsville. The storage tank was insulated with surplus WWII great coats. CSIRO provided the kit design.
                Even in Townsville at 19 deg south of the Equator, it did not get hot enough to shower in Winter so we added a mains powered electric immersion heater. Geoff S

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                During Cyclone Marcia, when I lived at Rockhampton, the neighbour from across the road was talking with me on the Saturday morning after the ‘big blow’ had done its thing on the Friday. I was cleaning up the broken palm fronds on the two Golden Canes out the front of our home, and we were chatting about how much damage there was and wondering about how long the power would be out.

                He mentioned how lucky I was to have a rooftop solar hot water panel, so at least I would have hot water.

                He was surprised when I mentioned that was also out.

                Y’see, while the panel is used to heat the water, they have to use a pump to get the water from the Hot water system inlet, up to the roof where it is heated and then gravity fed back to the hot water system, and you guessed it, it’s an electric pump, so no hot water as soon as the power failed, and it was off for five days. Anyway, according to law the hot water system is still connected to the mains, and during the night, umm, every night, as soon as the water temp falls, the system is heated by an element powered by the grid. So, the solar hot water system is just there to augment the heating of the water.

                Incidentally, those Golden Canes I had to clean up. The cyclonic winds made them bend, and they would fracture where the fronds stem met the trunk, but they did not break off, as they are so fibrous. So, there were all these bent and drooping fronds I had to cut away from the stems. I cut away around 150 of them in all, and it took me a few hours to do, as it was all working ‘up on a ladder’, as they were around their full height of around six to eight metres.

                Here’s an image of those Golden Canes after the Cyclone, and even though I cut away around 150 fronds, it hardly made a dent in how they ‘looked’. There were two of them, and they required constant work. I kept them to around 14 individual trunks on each of the two, and new trunks grow from the base, almost as you watch. I would cut away new small trunks each week in the warmer Months, and in Rocky, that was almost eight Months of the year, directly under Capricorn as we were. Each trunk would support around 20 or more fronds, and also in the Summer Months, I would have to cut off at least ten dead or dying fronds every week. They were constant work, and most of those trunks are as thick as your thigh. The front lawn, between these Canes and the house itself was a virtual dead zone with hardly any grass there at all.

                Tony.

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              MP

              Got a better use for soaking up that transitory daytime excess capacity?

              Yeah, Light, so we can follow the coal seams.

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            Hanrahan

            Peter, if they bring charge time down to “several minutes” you then have another intractable problem – The charge point will draw more power than 50 homes* assuming a modest increase in range.

            * Deliberately chose the vague measure used by windmill installers so I can’t be corrected. 🙂

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              PeterS

              True but the way around that is to build numerous small scale nuclear reactors. Look, it’s all moot unless and until the CAGW myth is busted well and truly, and our governments admit defeat. Then we can progress to EVs in a sane manner over time, not pushed into it because of some hoax and scam, much like the push for mass vaccinations.

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                OldOzzie

                Probably a very dumb question but if someone can enlighten me, I would be very happy.

                The Los Angeles-class contains more nuclear submarines than any other class in the world, and 62 of the class have been completed while 41 are still in active service including the USS Boise. This class has nearly unlimited range thanks to its1 SG6 nuclear reactor, which requires refueling after 30 years. The endurance of the boats is around 90 days.

                S6G reactor

                This nuclear reactor was designed by General Electric for use on the Los Angeles-class attack submarines. The S6G reactor plant consists of the reactor coolant, steam generation, and other support systems that supply steam to the engine room. The S6G is a 165 megawatt (MW) reactor driving two 26 MW steam turbines.[1]

                Why can’t a packaged S6G Reactor be used to supply Electricity to larger outback towns?

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                Lance

                Ozzie: The reactors you describe, S6G, require weapons grade purity U235.

                All of the military reactors do so because it makes the overall plant smaller.

                Civilian reactors can do quite well without such heavily enriched fuels.

                The historical reason for using such reactors is that (1) their designs are already approved, and (2) the reprocessing of fuel rods yields plutonium, which is useful for a few specific things.

                Using a Thorium cycle mostly avoids the Transuranic ( Atomic Number >92) series and is thus less useful for “other specific things”.

                Thorium is Atomic Number 90. But it cannot provide self sustaining reactions without a trigger such as U or Pu. Although it requires less shielding, it isn’t as “power dense” as highly enriched U.

                The original military reactors provided 2 things: Power and Plutonium. Chernobyl did so as well.

                Surely coincidental.

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                OldOzzie

                Lance – what size would Civilian reactors be without such heavily enriched fuels.?

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                PeterS

                Also they contain the word “nuclear” so they are not “appropriate” for Australians. We are still children and children do not play with “fire”.

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                Analitik

                The reactors you describe, S6G, require weapons grade purity U235.

                All of the military reactors do so because it makes the overall plant smaller

                This happens not to be the case, on either point. The enrichment level for a military reactor is around 20% and is needed to allow for the flexible operation needed – the nuclear powered military vessels do not ramp their speeds up and down slowly like a commercial reactor.

                Weapons grade enrichment is at the 93% level. Some submarines are fueled with this but in these cases, the highly enriched uranium is in small pellets dispersed within non-fissionable material to make up the fuel rod. This results in no size reduction and greatly reduces the range as there is a almost no breeding of the unenriched uranium that would otherwise be present.

                https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/non-power-nuclear-applications/transport/nuclear-powered-ships.aspx

                Lance – what size would Civilian reactors be without such heavily enriched fuels.?

                The NuScale is a small reactor design of similar thermal output to the S6G

                https://www.nuscalepower.com/technology/technology-overview

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              Ronin

              Read an interesting write up on a long term road test of a Nissan Leaf. a full charge from empty from a standard 10A powerpoint takes 32 hrs.
              If you have a spare few grand for a home charger it’s 11.2 hrs.

              If you roll down a window instead of using the a/c, it adds an extra 20km range.

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                Hanrahan

                Aircons in ICEs increase fuel consumption by >10%. Can EVs afford that range loss? I sure as hell ain’t gonna drive in the north without my cool air.

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                Raving

                Turning off the electric heater during winter helps extend the range (after battery prewarming*). Parkas and insulated boots are winter driving gear for EV enthusiasts

                Envy the Norwegians for having all that hydroelectric!

                *Disclosure: Drove a diesel in winter for many years. When an electric point was unavailable, had to run outside and start the engine every few hours to prevent freeze up

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                Chad

                Ronin
                July 7, 2021 at 9:23 am · Reply
                Read an interesting write up on a long term road test of a Nissan Leaf. a full charge from empty from a standard 10A powerpoint takes 32 hrs.
                If you have a spare few grand for a home charger it’s 11.2 hrs.

                The Leaf is a limited range city car……only a fool would use one for long hyway trips beyond 100km.
                And since the average daily journey in Oz is <30km, which would be about 5 kWh of charge, …a daily recharge would onlybtake 2 hrs even on that 10 amp power point. !

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                Hanrahan

                Chad:

                Nissan Leaf
                40kW
                Driveaway from
                $53,190

                The Honda Jazz 2020 prices range from $17,990 for the basic trim level Hatchback Jazz VTi to $29,867 for the top of the range Hatchback Jazz VTi-L.

                The Honda Jazz 2020 is available in Regular Unleaded Petrol.

                You can’t save that much petrol owning an EV. Do you personally feel you need to save the world?

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              Hanrahan
              July 7, 2021 at 8:52 am · Reply
              Peter, if they bring charge time down to “several minutes” you then have another intractable problem – The charge point will draw more power than 50 homes*

              ..unless the charge point has a “storage battery” to buffer the quick charge load.
              …..and probably recharged by its own solar field in remote areas.
              This is already the way it works in some US locations..

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                Hanrahan
                July 7, 2021 at 11:08 am
                Chad:

                You can’t save that much petrol owning an EV. Do you personally feel you need to save the world?

                Once again, you are mistaking my simple presentation of facts as some form of promotion for EVs or some “Green” undertone ?
                There is no way i will own an EV or Hybrid until there is at least price parity with equivalent ICEs….and i do not see that happening within 10 years at least.
                Even if i was given an EV , my interest would be purely technical and performance related….nothing environmental !
                I have just bought another Diesel that will easily last me until my driving days are all but finished !
                So, you will have to look for a real Green to persicute, …….but i shall continue to add or correct any false info i see used in this unrealistic resistance to EVs etc.

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                Raving

                30 – 60 min for 200 mile range at fast DC charge. Okay, assuming one can find such class 3 charging stations.

                There is the queing problem. 3 cars waiting in line for a gas pump and pay might be 10-20 min. No fun but doable.

                3 cars waiting in line for a DC fast charge point is 1.5-3 hrs for the 3rd vehicle to complete its charging. The fastest chargr being a single vehicle with no wating. 30 min from start to finish

                Remember that multiple pumps is not the same as multiple fast charge points. Each of those fast DC charge points will be all sucking big current at the same time unless they are being multiplexed which draws out the charging time accordingly

                Can easily imagine more than 3 vehicles per que, especially with higher percentages of EVs on the road.

                Pre-booking a charging slot will make people anxious about ETA. If traffic is bad they are in deep trouble. Each missed slot is a 30-60 min delay so things pile up. If time slots are fully booked then people will play musical chars searching for a location with an available charging slot. Even more fun when constrained by range. All the while with A/C or heater soothing the nervous occupants

                Sure people can get lucky and fill up in 30 min but they can also spend 4 hrs waiting for their fast charge too! What a horrible thougt

                How is Biden going to build the continental wide fast charge infrastructure? Going to be interesting.

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                Raving

                Traffic volume on a busy interstate highway is say 30,000 vehicles per day https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario_Highway_401

                So 15,000 hours of (30 min DC fast charge) per 200 mile segment of interstate. All cars are EV. All 30,000 vehicle flow needs to be recharged for the 200 mile segment travelled. Suppose 12 hrs per day to recharge and more than 30 min for average fast charge. Requires 2,000 fast charge points, all constantly occupied over each 200 mile 4 lane interstate segment.

                Is this reasonably doable? I don’t know. What it proably means is that the driver will be assigned a charging location rather than picking and chosing their own

                When traffic volumes increase during holidays and/or slow due to traffic jams, it will really mess this scheme up. Slow vehicles are more efficient but A/c and heaters run longer so people could cook/freeze waiting for that level 3 recharge.

                Level 2 recharging for 200 mile interday refill is a non starter. Takes far too long. Have no idea why they are talkiing about level 2 charging points for vehicles travelling for any distance. Its 35-70 ??? miles travel per hour charge time. In the order of driving time itself or worse

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                Hanrahan

                I have a hybrid, only paid about a grand more than an equiv. standard but that was 11 yrs ago, no idea what the difference is today. Prius is expensive now but I think they are plug-in hybrids which I wouldn’t want either.

                There is a lot to be said for my Camry, service, rubber and petrol only. Scoots over 140 overtaking heavies, you notice the extra electric power. On standard tires I haven’t tested its limits as I would have done years ago.

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                Chad

                Raving
                July 7, 2021 at 4:48 pm
                Traffic volume on a busy interstate highway is say 30,000 vehicles per day https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario_Highway_401

                So 15,000 hours of (30 min DC fast charge) per 200 mile segment of interstate. All cars are EV. All 30,000 vehicle flow needs to be recharged for the 200 mile segment travelled

                You are applying todays problems to one possible future situation.
                How long will it be before “all cars are EV”..?
                ….10 yrs ?, 20 yrs ?, ..my guess is more like 30+ yrs ! (If ever !)
                So, plenty of time for what ever authority is allocated the responsibility to sort out the charging networks.
                ..AND ,..plenty of time for new tech batteries with more capacity, more range (1000 ml ?) , faster charging, lower cost , etc etc..!
                ..AND how many of those future cars may be alternative powered ? ..H2 ?
                Synthetic gas ?,
                You are not thinking ahead …. anything can happen in that time scale !

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                Raving

                https://cleantechnica.com/2018/03/07/stop-comparing-number-gas-stations-ev-charging-stations/

                Because EV charging takes anywhere from 15 minutes to several hours, the mindset for EV drivers is to plan around the charging time to do something else WHILE your EV charges. This includes shopping, eating at a restaurant, maybe seeing a movie, staying overnight at a resort, etc.

                …..(+ other great stuff for the ‘EV mindset’ )

                Obviously the ‘EV mindset’ doesn’t consider long distance travel with several refills a day for a highway full of mandated EVs! It will require once each 24 hour charging driving-range to solve this problem. Needs the overnight recharge period to refill the battery

                EVs do make sense for <30 km/day transport. That type of driving profile is a good candidate for soaking up intermittent daytime power. Longer daily commutes/travel probably need overnight/fast recharge

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                Raving

                UK says all new cars must be electric by 2030. Means that if you buy a new ICE today it will be 10 years old by the time you can only purchase an EV. Governments around the world are determined to force electrification on vehicles. I think the Canadian time frame is now 2035 for all Evs

                So 10 years hence about 20 – 40% of vehicles are EV with rapid growth thereupon. That is scant time to build the massive powercdistribution network needed for long distance travel.

                In 10 years, 2,000 high current charge points per 300 km of freewway versus ICE vehicles that are 5 to 15 years old rolling alongside newer EV stock.

                They are talking about class 2 charging which is next to useless for long distance travel

                2,000 Dc fast chargers per 200 miles of highway is serious electric grid, no? Would anticipate it is greater power requirements than all those <30 km/day drives around town.

                Think about it for a moment. The big tank fill ups are for the weekend trips and the long distance commutes. 300 km for a day trip going out of the city is not a big joirney but still 10 times the 30 km daily range

                <30 km/day is one fill up per week or less

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                Raving

                10 year changeover to all EV is a done deal. I am not saying this. The automobile companies are committed to the production switchover. Goverments are following the manufacturers lead.

                They will make the vechiles and not care about the chaaos it will unleash on society. The auo manufacturers see they can deliver and are caving to the green lobby.

                The manufacturers will make the cars. It’ s society’s problem to find the electricity to charge them!

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                Hanrahan

                Reply to Raving

                UK says all new cars must be electric by 2030. Means that if you buy a new ICE today it will be 10 years old by the time you can only purchase an EV.

                So as late as you can you buy a 4×4 Cruiser service it properly and make a nice profit when you sell it.

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                Chad

                Raving
                July 7, 2021 at 6:17 pm
                10 year changeover to all EV is a done deal. I am not saying this. The automobile companies are committed to the production switchover. Goverments are following the manufacturers lead…….
                The manufacturers will make the cars. It’ s society’s problem to find the electricity to charge them!

                For some,..not the same everywhere.
                And there are bound to be changes/exemptions.
                Bat as someone else said, …it is unlikely to be more than 30-40% EV by then and even in screwed up Aussieland, we already have enough generation capacity to provide the charge requirements for them..now !
                So plenty of time to sort out a plan for the distant future.
                All that is needed is some sensible leadership !!

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                Lucky

                Chad, thinking ahead.
                ” anything can happen in that time scale !”

                The anything would mainly be suppression of “non-essential” travel. Country area living will be only for true back-to-nature types. Fossil fuels will be available with permits given for climate research, mining projects and farms supplying China. In towns and cities, the inner-party will have EVs with drivers, other will travel on bicycle. bikes will not be practical on poorly kept country roads. There could be a revival of horses for travel by tradesmen.

                Rather than thinking ahead, a green future will be like the first half of the nineteenth century, before steam power.

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                Raving

                Chad, thinking ahead.
                ” anything can happen in that time scale !”

                How many times will people need to be stuck in 4+ hour charging ques before they swear off EV with passionate hatred

                Personally I have never been caught in a linup squeeze at the gas pumps, although it happens during hurricanes and gas shortages.

                That unanticipated 4 hour wait at a charging site must be an especially rude slap in face.

                Just imagine the chaos, a 2 hour brown-out would create in a rural setting during the holiday weekend. People would get stranded at charging locations for hours, if not days

                A strength of the EV that it shares with ICE is that it can be charged up anytime anywhere .. but it is also a weakness. As with aircraft, the 250 mile range quickly decreases to 100 miles or even less, if one must also anticipate recharge difficulties

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                Raving

                An applied mathematician can work this out but my gut instinct is that the queing problem is nonlinear. That means it is necessary to more than double the number of charge points for a doubling of EVs on the road.

                Its like a traffic problem. If the number of cars travelling on a road are doubled it can greatly exacerbate bottleneck traffic jams

                Of think of “just in time” manufacturing control. Throw in unexpected interruptions or surges and backlogs can grow hugely

                Or city traffic flow patterns …

                I am glad you have faith in control process planners but they struggle with these issues big time. A simple double the EVs and double the charge points is not good enough.

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        Hanrahan

        People living in regional towns in Qld routinely drive long distances for kid’s sport, weddings, funerals etc. I know it’s the same in NSW.

        It is one thing to have the range to make the trip but you have to get back. The town you go to may only have one or two 22 – 45kW charge points like Yea. [no 20 min charge there] You then have soccer mums fighting to get the charger.

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    Robber

    Tuesday was another essentially wind free day across the AEMO grid, with wind delivering just 356 MW from a nameplate capacity of 8,800 MW, batteries 91 MW, solar 18 MW, while the 6pm peak demand reached 31,100 MW.
    Shutdown Liddell and Yallourn that provided 2,800 MW from a total coal contribution of 17,500 MW, and what will keep the lights on?

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      Lance

      What lights?

      “What did environmentalists use before candles, Daddy?”. “Electricity, dear”.

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        Hanrahan

        We discovered paraffin just in time to save the whales. Will they be endangered again?

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      Ronin

      Hope, faith and charity.

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      Chad

      Robber
      July 7, 2021 at 8:30 am · Reply
      Tuesday was another essentially wind free day across the AEMO grid, with wind delivering just 356 MW from a nameplate capacity of 8,800 MW, batteries 91 MW, solar 18 MW, while the 6pm peak demand reached 31,100 MW.
      Shutdown Liddell and Yallourn that provided 2,800 MW from a total coal contribution of 17,500 MW, and what will keep the lights on?

      Anero lists total FF generation capacity at 34.7 GW.
      So without that 2.8 GW from Liddell and Yallourn, you are left with 31.9GW ..! No problem !
      …..800MW to spare !
      .. ( + 7.5GW of hydro !)

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    Hanrahan

    Is Joe [or Jill] smart enough to throw Harris under the bus?

    This from TFI, a rabid anti-China, pro ScoMo, Indian blog, says so.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yvEiD-7qws

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    Geoffrey Williams

    Fin Review yesterday says ‘Winter cold snaps in South Eastern States has combined with generator outages in Queensland and Victoria to drive up wholesale prices of gas in Sydney to 5x that of earlier in year’ What wil be the effect on prices to consumers I wonder.
    Anyone comment on the truth of this . . .
    GeoffW

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      Hanrahan

      Is that why NSW was generating almost 2 gW less than demand when I looked earlier? Cheaper to buy Qld power.

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      Robber

      According to AEMO, Vic wholesale gas price currently $19/GJ, was $14 on July 3. I thought that prices were typically $8/GJ, but can’t find that data.

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    OldOzzie

    Australian authorities ban church from singing—on Zoom

    New South Wales introduced new guidelines that ban singing in places of worship, even for livestreams. These restrictions are inspired by the slight increase in cases in the area.

    The New South Wales government in Australia introduced new guidelines that ban singing in places of worship, even for livestreams. These restrictions are inspired by the slight increase in COVID-cases in the area.

    The new restriction came into effect on June 26, and states that “Singing by audiences at indoor shows or by congregants at indoor places of worship are not allowed.” The restrictions were put in place for “2 weeks.”

    In an email to religious leaders obtained by Eternity, the government wrote “please be advised that under the current Public Health Order (PHO), NSW Health has now confirmed that singing is not permitted in indoor areas of places of public worship. This includes during a live stream, and in regional NSW. This rule will protect people who may be involved in assisting in livestreaming an event, for example technical assistance, or who may be in regional communities attending a service.”

    The email also said that religious service leaders have to wear masks during the livestream, except when they are giving a speech. “The requirement is to wear a face mask in all indoor areas of non-residential premises. This rule applies across the whole of NSW. A service leader may temporarily take off their mask to deliver a speech for accessibility reasons.”

    H/T Catallaxy Files

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      PeterS

      hen how come other group activities are allowed to continue, such as sporting events?

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      Tarquin Wombat-Carruthers

      Does this apply to the singing of their club songs by winning AFL teams? Or the National Anthem at international sports events?

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        Lucky

        No to singing- at international sport events, participants will be masked, turn their backs, fists clenched and raised, and kneel when the anthem comes on.

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      PeterS

      Apparently some churches are deliberately ignoring the rules, basically telling the state government to stick it, and going ahead conducting singing groups for live-stream performances. HillSong I think is one of them. Well, if sporting events are still going to be allowed then good on them. Some people are getting fed up with the inconstancies.

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    OldOzzie

    Singapore Warns Against Exercise, Gym Post MRNA Jab After Boy Suffers Cardiac Arrest

    The expert committee told a presser on Monday that a “small but nevertheless statistically significant risk” exists with the mRNA jabs leading to myocarditis.

    Singapore’s COVID-19 vaccinations expert committee on Monday advised …………….

    [Snip excess content.]ED

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    OldOzzie

    The Australian Indigenous Education Foundation (AIEF) was established in 2007 to scale the work of the St Joseph’s College Indigenous Fund (SJCIF), which was established by AIEF Executive Director Andrew Penfold AM in 2004.

    BEGINNINGS

    The inspiration for SJCIF and AIEF tracks back to Andrew’s childhood and later life experiences.

    Andrew’s father died suddenly when he was six and his mum, aged 27, worked long hours, late nights and weekends to support Andrew and his sister.

    While his mother worked he was free to roam the streets with other kids from Glebe and Redfern. He moved house and changed schools several times and by the age of 15 he was a disruptive and disengaged student who rarely scored higher than 30% on a test.

    His mother and grandmother decided to intervene by convincing St Joseph’s College, Hunters Hill, to take Andrew in as a boarder, with his father’s life insurance policy covering the fees.

    Boarding school offered structure, boundaries, discipline, role models and good teachers, and it wasn’t long before Andrew stopped fighting and started working.

    In 2004 Andrew ‘retired’ and moved from Hong Kong to Sydney, where he spent the next five years working full time, pro-bono, to establish the $7 million St Joseph’s College Indigenous Fund, which currently helps to support up to 40 Indigenous boys in perpetuity at the school.

    The success of the fund inspired Andrew and his wife Michelle to scale it to work with schools around Australia.

    Through partnerships with leading Australian companies and foundations, the Australian Government and other donors, AIEF has built a Scholarship Fund that currently supports around 500 secondary and tertiary scholars and continues to support a network of over 600 graduates. These students and graduates are achieving outcomes that set the benchmark for Indigenous education programs in Australia.

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    OldOzzie

    The free world is being run by a “bloke who most probably couldn’t find his way home after dark,” says Sky News host Alan Jones.

    Sky News host Alan Jones says there is “no way” President Joe Biden would pass a test on his cognitive ability or memory impairment.

    “The disturbing thing here is the free world depends on the United States as the unfree world gains momentum,” Mr Jones said

    “And the free world is run by a bloke who most probably couldn’t find his way home after dark”.

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      OldOzzie

      From the Comments

      Sky News mistakenly assumes Dementia Joe could find his way home BEFORE dark.

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      Hanrahan

      The guessing game in the US is: Who’s running the show?

      It sure ain’t Kamala, some smart money says Susan Rice but I can’t think why Dr Jill would engage in this elder abuse if there was nothing in it for her. I’m sure her own home is more comfortable than the WH.

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    David Maddison

    Why do Leftists frequently have a high rising terminal speech pattern?

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    David Maddison

    Biden Center Received $54 MILLION From China After Launch of Presidential Bid

    By Pamela Geller – on July 5, 2021

    See link for rest.

    https://gellerreport.com/2021/07/biden-center-received-54-million-from-china-after-launch-of-presidential-bid.html/

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      Geoffrey Williams

      It’s scandalous – if it’s true.
      Jo Biden is worth more than that . .
      GeoffW

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      OldOzzie

      What is China Buying in the Biden Administration?

      by Peter Schweizer

      What is China buying in the Biden Administration? A look to the recent past may provide some answers.

      If you go back to 2009-10 and look at the “shovel-ready” stimulus package that President Barack Obama pushed through, as most people now know, there were huge amounts of money in the form of direct grants and loan guarantees that went to Solyndra and other “green energy” companies that failed. Yet, the question remained: Where did all that taxpayer money go for green energy?

      If you trace it, you will find that 80 percent of that money went to green energy companies that were owned by individuals who sat on Barack Obama’s Finance Committee for his 2008 campaign.

      Now that Obama’s former VP is president, another infrastructure package will include plenty of expenditures for more green schemes.

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        OldOzzie

        Biden’s Administration Is the ‘Wrecking Crew’

        Imagine a somewhat buffoonish, past-his-prime, cognitively challenged man entrusted with the survival of the free world who is surrounded by handlers who both take care of him and count on him to come through in the clutch.

        If you are thinking of Joe Biden, you are only half correct. More than half a century ago, Dean Martin perfected the role of the bumbling big cheese in his 1960s spy spoof movie series based on the Matt Helm novels. Martin, of course, was playing a self-absorbed, alcohol-drenched hedonist with a gun whereas Biden is the leader of the free world with a nuclear arsenal, but beyond that the similarities are uncanny.

        OK, maybe not, but the titles of the Matt Helm films provide a perfect template for considering Biden’s agenda for reshaping America: “The Silencers” suggests the Democratic goal of crushing dissent through intimidation and censorship. “The Ambushers” aptly describes the stealth approach of progressives to hide their nation-altering agenda in 800-page bills that no one reads. But most evocatively, Biden’s administration resembles a real-life version of “The Wrecking Crew.” As President Trump said at his recent rally in Ohio, “Joe Biden is destroying our country right before our eyes.”

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    Hanrahan

    Will the Tokyo games be the last for those who compete in them?

    Assuming they will all need to be vaxxed to enter the village many will suffer heart and lung damage. Y’day someone posted a web conference of six Canadians. They spoke of nano clots in the lungs undetectable with CAT scan but which permanently damage the lungs. Equally there is no such ting as “minor” thrombosis because the heart does not repair itself. What if the effect is so bad someone like Bolt doesn’t make it through the heats?

    This is a crime.

    https://phys.org/news/2013-10-simple-urine-nanotechnology-dangerous-blood.html
    One, known as the D-dimer test, looks for the presence of fibrin byproducts, which indicates that a clot is being broken down, but will not detect its initial formation.

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      PeterS

      Look on the bright side. If all the talk of how dangerous the long term effects are true then consider it as part of the Darwinian natural selection process. They get the Darwin Award. If not and things turn out OK then well and good.

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      Ronin

      Isn’t exercising after the jab a bit risky.

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    RossP

    This case is a very sorry story. Italian 18 year old.

    https://ysb.co.nz/vaccine-anyone-2/

    How many serious side effects (especially to young people ) and how many more deaths will it take to bring people to their senses?

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    OldOzzie

    The 2021 Formula One Australian Grand Prix and Australian Motorcycle Grand Prix have been cancelled.

    The news comes after many months of travel and quarantine concerns surrounding the international contingent.

    A statement from the Australian Grand Prix Corporation today confirmed, “The Australian Grand Prix Corporation (AGPC) in conjunction with the Victorian Government, Formula One and Dorna Sports today announced the 2021 Formula One Australian Grand Prix and 2021 Australian Motorcycle Grand Prix are cancelled due to restrictions and logistical challenges relating to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic”.

    Meanwhile

    The Red Bull Ring was rocking from Saturday, as fans in mass numbers were permitted to attend a Grand Prix for the first time since 2019 – and Verstappen’s loyal orange-clad army turned out in force.

    The adjacent campsites were packed, awash with orange t-shirts, hats and flags, with the music pumping till late – and starting early – as 130,000 packed into the venue over the course of the weekend. Once in the stands, their voices were even louder, creating a party atmosphere for their hero.

    And

    Silverstone have announced they will welcome a full capacity crowd to the British Grand Prix. The race course can hold 140,000 fans and it will be the biggest sporting event since the Covid-19 pandemic started. “This is something we have all been working towards for months. I cannot wait to welcome a full capacity crowd back to Silverstone,” Silverstone boss Stuart Pringle said.

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    Ian1946

    It looks like SA is closer to a major blackout.

    https://apple.news/AMu8BsKa8QjWNWDDeb4TvXQ

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      TdeF

      AGL’s move is the latest sign of the accelerating clean-energy transition driving down wholesale electricity prices to the point where coal and gas are unable to compete.

      Utter rubbish! What a ridiculous rationalization of the collapse of wholesale coal and gas profitability in a country with perhaps the world’s highest retail prices for electricity! Where’s the money going?

      No, it’s the government penalizing coal and gas producers (carbon b*stards) to the point where they give up. You reward one supplier with double income and the other paid peanuts to do all the heavy lifting, maintain the reserve and pick up the slack at night or when the wind doesn’t blow when the other gets priority at all times and paid for the mere fact of production, even if not sold. Why bother? Let the place go dark.

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        TdeF

        If a retailer buys carbon electrons not Green approved electrons, he is compelled to buy certificates and his money goes to the Green supplier. The carbon b*stard gets nothing for this money. He only gets paid if there are no Green electrons around to buy and then only for what he produces. He gets nothing for keeping the place open.

        The Green supplier only has to generate the Green electricity to earn an income even without selling the green electrons. This is hidden cash from the public for which they also get nothing. Literally a windfall every minute his windmill is turning or the sun is shining, even if no one wants the output. A Green producer gets certificates for which he is paid, a ‘market’ but a compulsory one. This is legalized and compulsory theft, Carbon Indulgences.

        These Carbon Indulgences are generated for free by windmills and solar panels and turned into unearned cash income on top of any payment for electricity sold. And in fact whether the electricity is sold or not! See also..

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          TdeF

          This explains how the ‘Clean Energy Certificates’ scam works.

          And while up to 90% of our electricity is gas and coal, we are paying the world’s highest prices for the same stuff. So where’s the extra cash going? To make investors rich. Windfall money.

          The Australian government is saving the world. Apparently. By robbing everyone.

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            TdeF

            And what idi*t said the idea was to depress the wholesale price of electricity and drive cheap producers out of the market? The idea of ‘Free’ energy was to drive down the retail price with clean free energy. Except both words are a lie.

            Who gets the $6Billion in Green certificates buried in our electricity bills? For what? Where is there any benefit for Australia? It’s daylight robbery.

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              Ronin

              “Who gets the $6Billion in Green certificates buried in our electricity bills?”.
              Probably the Chicoms.

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              Lucky

              The text for this is “Animal Farm” by Orwell. The horse Boxer represents the coal power station that does all the work, volunteers for more until dropping from exhaustion, then sold for skin and bones.

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        Ronin

        One supplier sends waffle power to the grid, dependent on the weather, the other is expected to A/ Be there to consistently hold the grid steady, B/ Keep the grid frequency, phase angle and voltage within specs, C/ Take up the slack at night when the sun ain’t shining and the breeze ain’t blowing and get screwed over while doing it.

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          Kalm Keith

          Well put.

          Do all the right things and get punished like a loser.

          Welcome to 2021 and the era of WokeThink.

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      clarence.t

      Close down gas.. oops.. no electricity.

      What will they use instead in SA..

      Currently Gas is providing 71% of their electricity

      On June 27th, gas was providing 99% of their electricity

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      Ronin

      I can see what’s going on with AGL in SA, power prices more than halved, drop a unit offline and sit back.

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        Hanrahan

        Shades of Enron. They got fined but AGL skates.

        California had an installed generating capacity of 45 GW. At the time of the blackouts, demand was 28 GW. A demand-supply gap was created by energy companies, mainly Enron, to create an artificial shortage. Energy traders took power plants offline for maintenance in days of peak demand to increase the price.[8][6] Traders were thus able to sell power at premium prices, sometimes up to a factor of 20 times its normal value. Because the state government had a cap on retail electricity charges, this market manipulation squeezed the industry’s revenue margins, causing the bankruptcy of Pacific Gas and Electric Company (PG&E) and near bankruptcy of Southern California Edison in early 2001.

        wiki

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      yarpos

      The are probably just fine tuning their panic purchases as the headed into the last election which was held in summer following the blackouts. Weatherdill could not afford any power issues leading into the election and suddenly realised the State was over committed to wind and solar.

      They then raced out and spent $500mill of OPM on gas turbines and the very special battery. You can beat they overkilled it while they had the chance and now with a year or two of data they see to think they can do without the oldest plant (fuel efficiency may come in to play also) Notice they are mothballing not dynamiting this one.

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    David Maddison

    A handy conversion factor for looking at EV’s is that one litre of gasoline has the energy equivalent of 9kWh of electricity.

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      Chad

      A handy comparason factor looking at EVs is that one litre of gasoline will take the average car 10-15 kms ,……and 9 kWh will take a typical EV 45-50 kms .

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        Ronin

        The best thing about electric cars is that it will wreak havoc on the Arabs.

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        Raving

        Waste heat is used to warm an ICE vehice so there is a benefit in cold climates. Interestingly some car manufacturers have a problem because their engines are too efficient and fail to generate sufficient heat!

        For an EV, it comes down to when and how the vehiclei is charged. Filling up during the day off peak or trickle charge at night when the wind blows allow for scavenging renewable power. This is at odds with charginging each night for the daily commute with unplugged terminus

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      Ronin

      For a weight of 740g, + container.

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      Ronin

      Sadly, a petrol engine can only use 30% of the energy in petrol as motive force, the rest goes to waste heat in coolant, exhaust, friction, oil drag etc.

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        Hanrahan

        Keep up Ronin, they are approaching 40% now. The latest Mazda Activ X achieves that. [not cheap, granted but batteries aren’t the only thing which can get cheaper with mass production]

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          Ronin

          Oh dear, I’m probably still in the Kingswood era.
          My little i30 turbo diesel gets 5L/100 k on the highway, so it might be near 40%.

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    el gordo

    Oz lobster back on the menu in Beijing.

    ‘Month-long investigation by the Post reveals how the once wiped-out smuggling of Australian rock lobsters has roared back following an unofficial Chinese ban. Authorities seizing boatloads of lobsters on both Hong Kong and mainland sides of the border. While some smugglers are caught, ‘they are always the minority’. (SCMP)

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    el gordo

    ‘ … with new cases concentrated in the Fairfield, Canterbury-Bankstown and Liverpool LGAs – areas which may face tighter restrictions.’ (Daily Tele)

    More than likely they’ll form an enclosure around those suburbs and let the rest of Sydney get on with their lives.

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    angech

    Any news on the Peter Ridd case?

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    el gordo

    ‘NSW Treasurer rejected longer lockdown.

    ‘Dominic Perrottet vehemently opposed the move signed off at the state’s crisis cabinet meeting, saying it was time the state adjusted its thinking to Covid-19.’
    (Oz)

    He might be the new leader in waiting.

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    GF1

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-06-27/did-covid-come-from-a-lab-scientist-at-wuhan-institute-speaks-out
    Hello Joanne; you may know of this girl, and if it has been posted before I apologise, have not had time lately to read all the posts.

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    el gordo

    Two million years ago our ancestors still spent a lot of time up in the trees, the missing link finally discovered.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/19/health/australopithecus-sediba-human-history-scli-intl/index.html

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    WokeBuster

    From the picture that is emerging it appears the vaccinated are the biggest danger to humanity because potentially each one of them is walking little Wuhan Lab ready to spout the next mutation. So do we now need unvaccinated passports? In this scenario only the vaccinated would need to be locked down and the unvaccinated on antiviral can go about their normal business.

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    Serp

    Trump is leading a class action against the fbgang.

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