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Wow . Am I the first. I am feeling more optimistic every day that Trump will succeed and fix the world problems.
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Enter…the Kraken….
If you read this thread below ( its a long but encouraging read as to how Trump has laid out not just the trap, but the coming actions he will take against the protagonists ), you can see it appears that not only is Trump about to take down the Left, but set a trap as far back as 2018.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-03-situation-update-dec-3rd-trump-invokes-foreign-interference.html#
The point the article makes is that the speech contain LEGAL phrases as what appears to be a mechanism to provide the basis for concrete actions against what appear to be the electoral fraud peretrators.
“Then, about 30 minutes into the speech, he invokes legal language that clearly references Trump’s Sep. 12, 2018 executive order which describes remedies for foreign interference in U.S. elections. Here’s what Trump says:
“The only conceivable reason why you would block commonsense measures to verify legal eligibility for voting, is you are trying to encourage, enable, solicit or carry out fraud. It is important for Americans to understand that these destructive changes to our election laws were NOT a necessary response to the pandemic. The pandemic simply gave the Democrats an excuse to do what they were trying to do with many many years.
“Note carefully the phrase, “…trying to encourage, enable, solicit or carry out fraud.”
“Where have we heard something very similar before? In the 2018 EO, which describes who will be subjected to having all their assets seized by the United States government — and note that this applies to corporations, individuals, partnerships and even non-profits: (emphasis added)
“Sec. 2. a (ii) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support for, or goods or services to or in support of, any activity described in subsection (a)(i)
“Sec. 2. a (i) to have directly or indirectly engaged in, sponsored, concealed, or otherwise been complicit in foreign interference in a United States election;
“Thus, Trump just invoked the 2018 EO and sent an undeniable signal to Chris Miller at the DoD (as well as many other groups) that the Democrats, the treasonous media and the complicit Big Tech giants have all engaged in concealing, advocating or supporting “foreign interference” in the U.S. election.
More at the link above.
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As I recall that EO explicitly includes the media if they have: directly or indirectly engaged in, sponsored, concealed, or otherwise been complicit in foreign interference in a United States election;
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I should have read before posting, it is covered:
Translated into plain language, this means that Twitter, Facebook, CNN, the Washington Post, Google, MSNBC, etc., are all now able to be completely seized, shut down or taken over by the Trump administration, as they all engaged in the defined behaviors outlined in the 2018 EO, which Trump just cited.
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And for some good news….
Audrey Zeibleman is leaving the AEMO,…
And being replaced by an Engineer ?……temporarily , at least !
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One down:
now for some of the University Managers imported from the U.S. by MalEx444.
The one worry is that Audrey may have received a woke sized severance package that’s inversely related to her actual performance.
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Interesting , given what is unfolding in the USA currently……
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Interesting , given what is unfolding in the USA currently……
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Duplicate…sorry….please delete
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So she upped and left before the AEMO could decide on her successor? There has to be a story behind this.
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Whoops – a Google search shows she was slated to leave for a position at Google mid December
My bad
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Given how the warmists cherry pick hot days to ‘prove’ global warming, let me just say that it’s been unusually cool in Perth for the start of Summer this year. But that data doesn’t fit the theory and thus should be, er, corrected.
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Cool in Perth and down here in Manjimup even though it’s December there is smoke coming forom a lot of chimneys, especially in the morning. For thre first three days of the month the minimum avergae-4.4c , maximum -2.5C.
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We’ve had two warm days this summer and nights have been colder than usual in North east Victoriastan.
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We went through a huge amount of wood this year, still cold enough in the mornings to justify it but the last few days have been lovely. Late teens to mid-20s, perfect! 944mm rain so far this year but not a lot lately, a bit more wouldn’t go amiss atm.
Our son in Perth is fed up with the cold there; he sent us a photo a few days ago of himself, dressed as for winter and with an uncharacteristically grumpy look on his face.
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@TedM. You write:
“For thre first three days of the month the minimum avergae-4.4c , maximum -2.5C.”
Surely -2.5C is a typo.
BOM gives
Tuesday Dec 1 minimum temperature 7.6C, Wednesday Dec 2 minimum temperature 6.9C
Thursday Dec 3 minimum temperature 8.3C.
Maximum temperature for each of the three days 24.4C
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You are confusing max with min Ian. Maybe my comment was a bit ambiguous.
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Yeah quite possibly I was. Apologies TedM
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Warnambool recorded its coldest December day EVAHHH on Thursday. Perth is not the only cold place. On the other hand November was close to the warmest November EVAHHHH in Australia making spring 2020 close to the warmest EVAHHH. So still on track for thermogeddon sometime in the future.
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According to Climate Reanlyzer(if you trust it) the S.Hemi. has been pretty much spot on the climatalogical average (cf 1979-2000) recently, devoid of global warming, and so any local heat is good old fashioned normal weather!
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>”According to Climate Reanlyzer(if you trust it)”
ACRE Reanalysis
Weather Hindcasting – Using models to look backwards
ACRE and its partners undertake the recovery and digitisation of historical surface terrestrial and marine weather data from around the globe. The data they rescue is stored in international databanks which are used by a host of climate reanalysis systems to estimate past weather and its variations. Generally speaking, climate reanalysis systems take the concepts of weather forecasting models and use them to reconstruct the past weather instead of forecasting tomorrow’s weather. This weather ‘hindcasting’ recreates what past weather probably looked like.
A more nuanced description of the difference between climate models and weather forecasting models can be found here[Wikipedia link].
https://www.met-acre.net/reanalysis.htm
# # #
The historical surface terrestrial and marine weather datasets (obs based models of the entire troposphere) are the same used for reanalysis as they are for weather forecasts e.g. your nightly TV weather.
Obviously the resulting datasets include massive infill but I can’t think of a reason not to trust them.
The hindcasts are all obs based – the weather forecasts past the end of the latest time series data are not.
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Should be – “[basis of] obs based models of the entire troposphere”
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It’s entitled to be hot up here in the tropics but it is quite mild really, about 30 deg days. That’s OK. 🙂
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On Tuesday just passed, the first day of Summer, wind generation had a really good day for power generation. The daily operational Capacity Factor was 50.7%, so of its Nameplate of 7728MW, it averaged 3918MW across the day and the high was 4730MW.
Now, I want to impress upon you the absolute irony ….. that on one of its best days in many weeks (40 days since the last time it was over 50%) it could only manage 50% of its total. Over the last twelve Months, wind has only been higher than 50% Capacity Factor (CF) for the day on 20 occasions. 20 days out of 366 days.
The year round average for that CF is 29.5%, so that means it averages a power delivery of just 2280MW.
Here we have 64 Wind Plants with around 4000 individual skyscraper height wind towers, and all they can manage is 2280MW
The Nameplate for those wind plants of 7728MW is around the same Nameplate of four large scale coal fired power plants.
However, when it comes to actual power delivery, it equates to a little more than from ….. ONE of those coal fired power plants.
And they want to close down coal fired power plants.
Someone will need to start telling the truth pretty soon.
That won’t be pretty.
Tony.
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It would be interesting to figure out what it would actually take, in wind, solar and batteries, at these realistic rates, to meet just the needs of a single city? Then cost it. That no one in authority will do it speaks volumes.
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Hi David,
You have some great posts.
the city in question should NOT BE CONNECTED
to an outside power source….EVER.
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That’s how I view the interconnects between the states. They should never be used unless in cases of emergencies. A state running out of power because the sun doesn’t shine or the wind doesn’t blow is not IMHO an emergency. They are normal occurrences. Of course some would argue the whole point of the interconnects is to provide stability in the national grid. The trouble with that logic is it has allowed some states to take advantage of the situation and destroy their coal fired power stations in preference to go as close as possible to 100% renewables. It will be interesting to see what happens if that trend continues and we are left with perhaps just one state producing coal fired power and then it decides it can’t survive without building many more of them. Perhaps then the penny will drop.
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Played out in Europe. Germany siphoning France’s nuclear power and palming off excess wind power to Eastern countries that don’t want it.
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Even better is that Germany flows power from the northern windfarms to the industrial south via Poland, Czech Republic and Austria because the Germans don’t want to cut through the Bavarian forests for a high capacity interconnector.
That’s why the Poles and Czechs installed phase shifting transformers at their border connections to minimise the disruption to their grids
https://transformers-magazine.com/tm-news/3249-phase-shifting-transformer-between-poland-and-germany-goes-online/
https://www.50hertz.com/en/News/FullarticleNewsof50Hertz/id/3244/electricity-flows-between-50hertz-germany-and-ceps-czech-republic-are-regulated-by-phase-shifting-transformers-
These should be installed at the ACT border to limit the power in their grid to the output of their contracted renewable generators so they can properly experience being 100% renewable.
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The “ACT 100% renewables” contracted generators have just gone past their first 12 months of supply.
The contracted amount was 2,235,764 MWh – they managed 1,939,904 MWh.
So they were “ACT 83.4% renewables” from October 2019-September 2020.
The lights did not go out, so a big thank you to the reliables!
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Also be interesting to know the total space taken up by the installations required to power that city.
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That late Professor David JC Mackay wrote an incredibly detail book on the requirements for supplying the UK through renewables. He wrote it straightfaced as if it provides the answers for a solution but in reality, it demonstrates the complete impracticality of the scale of deployment required
https://www.withouthotair.com/
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And if you want to cut to the chase, just read Chapter 18: Can we live on renewables?
https://www.withouthotair.com/c18/page_103.shtml
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I often copy and paste from your comments and save it for future reference Tony. Hope that is OK with you.
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Well the answer is just so simple Tony , we just need more windfarms !
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G’day r r,
Yesterday we drove past the Bodangora wind thingo between Wellington and Gulgong about 2 pm. Not one of its 33 rotors was moving. Little wind at the time.
… Wikepedia
Bodangora Wind Farm is a 113.2 MW[1] wind farm owned by Infigen Energy in the district of Bodangora near Wellington, New South Wales, Australia. It consists of 33 wind turbines. The towers are 85 metres tall, and the rotor diameter is 130 metres. The wind turbine blades were manufactured in Bergama, Turkey.[2] The development of the project began in 2009. It received planning approval in August 2013. The wind farm was completed on 27 February 2019.[3]
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But it’s Ok, as Mt Piper is also attached to the grid, and it was probably idling along.
… Wikipedia again
Mount Piper Power Station is a coal powered power station with two steam turbines with a combined generating capacity of 1,400 MW of electricity. It is located near Portland, in the Central West of New South Wales, Australia and owned by EnergyAustralia, a subsidiary of CLP Group.
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Cheers
Dave B
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Actually, they would have been turning at an barely perceptible rate. The cantilever on the turbine shaft places a huge load on the bearings so if the shaft is in one position for any length of time, the bearing surfaces get indented (brinelled) and need replacing.
So the windfarm would actually have been drawing power from the grid to drive the turbines when you saw it.
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As I have mentioned now a few times, we get lulled into a false sense of ….. ‘what we are looking at.’
When you view those graphs for wind generation, you see those spikes down and up across the page, and you think ….. ahh yes, that’s wind being intermittent.
However, you are being deceived by what you are looking it, and that is no fault of anyone at all, the people who are showing the graph, or you who are looking at the graph.
Ten years ago, when the Nameplate for wind here in Australia was just starting to grow, the image of the output from ALL those wind plants was sized to fit the page, and with a maximum of 1200MW Nameplate total, and an average of 500MW, then any ‘blips’ across the page, you know, sudden loss of power show up as small intermittencies, the loss of (say) 50MW as wind went high and the blades shut down on perhaps 30 individual towers.
As the years went by and Nameplate increased, the size of that graph on the page remained unchanged, with the only change being that left side vertical axis showing the total for wind generation, and that increased slowly across those years. So now, any blips looked somewhat ….. similar to what they always did, again nods of the head, yeah, that’s wind intermittency, loss of power in high wind situations, and the slow (well, not so slow really) decay of power in decreasing wind situations.
Now, here we are with wind having a Nameplate of 7728MW and still (occasionally) rising.
That graph is the same size and on the same sized page. That left side vertical axis can now rise to 5500MW. (and here, be aware wind generation has only been over 5000MW on two occasions ….. ever, and even that was just for one five, ten minute point in time)
So now ….. same graph on the page and we see those ‘blips’, those sudden losses of power in high wind situations as the blades stop from fear of destruction.
Only now, that similar looking image has those blips at 600MW to 1300MW, instead of the original 50MW from years back. That’s not 30 towers going off line like years back. Now, that’s 300 Plus, and sometimes 600 Plus towers shutting down, whole swathes of ten to fifteen wind plants removing their power, ‘blip’, all happening between five and fifteen minutes.
You know, the same as one or two large scale coal fired Units dropping off line, and imagine the uproar if that happened, and the scream about how unreliable they are.
Then, on that same day as I mentioned above, the First of December, when wind generation was so high, it was way up at around 9PM, and then started to fall away. That loss of power went back to around 1000MW by 1PM the next day, a loss of ….. 3000MW plus in 16 hours.
That’s the equivalent of taking Loy Yang off line ….. ALL SIX UNITS.
If that happened, Victoria, and possibly even South Australia would just go black.
The uproar and political fallout from that happening would be catastrophic.
And yet if wind generation does that, nothing. Nothing at all.
Because no one even knows it has happened.
That’s how good wind generation is. (/sarc)
When it fails, no one even notices.
And those fails, high and low wind situations, well, 300 times in the last two and a bit years.
Look at those graphs now with the increased Nameplate. See the ‘blips’.
That’s not intermittency.
That’s FAILURE!
Tony.
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Hi Anton, and All,
As we see here so often, young Anton is far too modest.
Might I suggest that we all have a look at a recent 3-part series of Anton’s on this very matter of wind’s intermittency. Here’s the intro that a colleague sent to me:
“Wind Power Generation Intermittency – It’s Worse Than You Think It Is”
Three part article, by a retired electrical engineer.
Available starting from:
https://papundits.wordpress.com/2020/11/30/wind-power-generation-intermittency-its-worse-than-you-think-it-is-introduction/
Now, here in NSW, Aust., how does one get our State Premier Gladys to read these articles, fully comprehend their import, and to then realise as a direct consequence of that intermittency, that the renewables-favouring energy policy recently provided to her government by her breathless Energy Minister will lead to disaster?
The cumulative inherent intermittency of wind and solar PV “farms”, plus their complete lack of the provision of the absolutely essential synchronous inertia can lead only to frequent, widespread, unpredictable, blackouts as this energy policy, with its crippling penalties on coal-fired power stations, causes the latter to be closed down.
Anton, thank you for going to the very considerable trouble to prepare these articles.
Cheers,
Paul Miskelly
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Thanks Paul, but I seriously wonder how being 70 years old qualifies as ….. ‘Young Anton’!
Tony.
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Perhaps this makes the computation simple. We need enough wind generating capacity such that the LEAST it will produce when solar is producing nothing is still a bit greater than the MOST we will need at that time. That will be a very big number.
OK you can throw in some storage if it is completely reliable, which will likely cost more than the wind it replaces., if such exists.
These are all capital costs, paying to have it sit there waiting to run once in a while, not the fairytale LCOE.
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It is worth noting also, that during this recent period of high wind availability, SA has had to “Curtail” (shut down) considerable amounts of their wind generation ( and likely solar ?) due to oversupply in periods when demand is low and even other stales dont need power.
These periods are mainly during the day when RT solar suppresses grid demand and even feeds its own contribution to the grid.
The AEMO really needs to get control of RT solar to shut it out of the grid when demand is low.
Why pay for RT generated supply when it is not needed ? ..it just makes grid generators less efficient and power costs higher to the rest of consumers.
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Tony you put forward a powerfull argument for the continued life of our coal fired power stations if we are to going to have enough energy for the forseeable future. Your logic is irrifutable; but our government,the greens and the media will not face up to the truth.
Are they stubborn or stupid? Whichever, how can they hope to convince people like myself that they have the intellect to understand the vast complications of climate change?
The answer I think is that they dont understand it (the climate) and as such I have no respect for their argument. If we allow them to continue they will bring us all down.
GeoffW
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Tony, “first day of summer”?
Margo Saunders posted this question on 30th May, 2014:
“Why do Australians not acknowledge that an equinox or solstice marks the official start of a season?
In the northern hemisphere, it is commonly understood that the first day of Spring, Summer, Autumn and Winter occur with the relevant equinox (for Spring and Autumn) or solstice (for Summer and Winter). Every schoolchild knows this. Yet, in Australia, it is conventional to say that each season begins on the 1st day of a month (eg, Winter begins on 1 June).”
https://www.ga.gov.au/scientific-topics/astronomical/summer-and-winter-solstice
“The summer solstice occurs once a year in December when the Sun’s track across the Australian sky reaches its highest point. It is the day that has the most daylight hours of any in the year. The summer solstice usually occurs on 22 December, but can occur between 21 and 23 December. The winter solstice is the day of the year that has the least daylight hours of any in the year and usually occurs on 22 June but can occur between 21 and 23 June.”
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Thanks Alice,
and now, keeping that in mind and moving off on a slight tangent, did you see the recent news that Australia has proposed these wonderful new ‘Pods’ for construction in The Antarctica.
However, these pods will be sooooo environmentally conscious.
They will be powered by, umm, solar power and wind power.
You know solar power, where the Sun does not even rise for six Months of the year, and for the other six Months, just rolls around the horizon at the lowest point for solar insolation, hence the least power generation, and where the winds are the highest on Earth.
Now, I don’t do those m0r0nic acronyms, but even I laughed out loud when I heard that.
In their incredible rush to be ‘woke’, they just disengaged their brain.
Summer Solstice at Antarctica will be the time of biggest celebration. It’s the one day of the year they actually have electrical power.
Wait till commissioning day, and they go to flick the switch to turn the power on.
flick flick flick flick flick flick flick flick ….. Umm, is there an electrician in the house. I think we might have a short ….. is that the word?
Tony.
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Alice, when I was in Grade 3 (quite a few years ago) our dear teacher, Miss Green, taught us all about the seasons and solstices and equinoxes. Her take on seasons was that the mid point of each was the relevant solstice or equinox. Thus Summer started this year around 7th November.
I’m still inclined to Miss Green’s idea. The hot days in the last few days of November here in SE Qld should have been reported as slightly above a Summer average instead of being reported, over and over, by their ABC as the hottest evahh Spring temperatures.
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These are called astronomical seasons. The longest day is midsummer, etc. The seasons we observe are roughly based on temperature, which lags the astronomy. Midsummer is hottest, etc.
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Anyone know how the Kraken is doing in Wisconsin?
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That’s a Krakup 🙂
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Wisconsin Supreme Court Sends Trump Fraud Case to Lower Court — Why This Is Good News for Team Trump!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-wisconsin-supreme-court-sends-trump-fraud-case-lower-court-good-news-team-trump/
President Trump Is On Target In Wisconsin – Ballots Identified in Pristine Condition Similar to Fraudulent Ballots in Georgia and Michigan
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/boom-president-trump-target-wisconsin-ballots-identified-pristine-condition-similar-fraudulent-ballots-georgia-michigan/
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For those that subscribe to the “Epoch Times” which is free I believe you just have to sign up to get access .
They are running a security video taken supposedly in a polling booth showing suitcases stuffed with ballots being removed from hiding and being counted while the centre was not fully staffed .
https://www.theepochtimes.com/state-farm-arena-footage-shows-poll-workers-staying-behind-pulling-out-suitcases-with-ballots_3603293.html?utm_source=share-btn-copylink&fbclid=IwAR1SjfW6MqgfBgKDpktZrPkC6WMROtptSzx-_h-IERw5QDUmPFvV3uMYK6Y
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Robert, a bit more perspective: it was video shown at a Live hearing on GA State election voter fraud.
Full video: https://youtu.be/keANzinHWUA (good stuff starts about 6:20 into video)
Elena Parent – Chairman of @ GASenateDems, after video shown during Hearing. The sound of Panic:
https://streamable.com/dyzvv7
This is going to become VERY interesting over the next few days. Video evidence presented at official live hearing demonstrating irrefutable election fraud.
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If team Trump keeps losing lawsuits, should a ‘limited form of martial law be declared’, as Flynn wants?
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No, if Trump fails at the SCOTUS then he is entitled to consider suspending the constitution and declare martial law to re-run election if he is convinced that voter fraud was sufficient to steal the election. I’m not necessarily saying it was stolen but if he has the evidence to prove to himself that it was then yes he should use the Insurrection Act of 1807 to call in the military to stop the whole mess dead in its tracks. More popcorn please.
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I would rather have Biden then martial law. But the worst case scenario, common in some countries, is for the army to decide who the President is.
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So you rather let evil win. Not good!
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I agree with David, martial law would create the impression that the US is a failed state.
Good and evil are relative, depending on your background, so its important to focus on keeping democracy afloat.
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Another person who wants to give in to the side of evil. Any others here? Jo, what are your thoughts on what is without question an extremely serious situation developing right in front of our eyes?
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‘Another person who wants to give in to the side of evil.’
We are discussing the two party system, which you despise in favour of many parties. This is not a morality play, leave good and evil out of it.
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EG youre playing word games. This is literally a fight between good and evil.
Sometimes to rout an evil, it means having to do unpleasant stuff. I hate the idea of any form of martial law.
This current problem is also a chunk of what appears to be Obummers deliberate run down of the US to undermine it, and things have gotten so bad extreme measures are required.
These is lots and lots and lots of damage to undo.
The media are a bunch of entitled milk sops, they have sold their souls to the Devil, and know it, and now thier master has abandoned them, and they are about to feel the heat that is so justly and righteously deserved…..
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el gordo it’s people like you that allow evil to win. Shame on you! Change your attitude and stop defending evil.
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The right are pathetic god botherers, this is political science not christian science.
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Isn’t it? It is obvious to me, a down-under observer, that the US is corrupt to the core. I say that with great sadness, I view the US as a big brother.
The republicans conspire with the dems to oust Trump rather than have their cosy arrangement upset where they take turns governing. They are the boss 50% of the time but sucking on the public teat 100% of the time. Trump was a threat to members of both parties.
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US democracy works, the people have chosen, so in due course the new president will attempt to unify the nation after a very robust election. The general fuming angst should settle down post Covid.
Donald will spend the next four years making a lot of money and building his base, through his own MSM outlet, in anticipation of being reelected in four years.
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el gordo democracy has been destroyed by widespread voter fraud and rigging. The evidence is overwhelming and still more is being uncovered as we speak. You refuse to accept that. That means you are on the side of the voter fraud. That clearly means you don’t believe in true democracy, so stop playing word games as OriginalSteve pointed out earlier. It’s so obvious.
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Peter, El diablo will do a 180 by the end of the thread. He will just drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
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Nice one MP, while Leaf is on sabbatical I offer myself as a sacrificial lab.
‘ … you don’t believe in true democracy …’
US democracy is archaic and needs to be rejigged, their ‘exceptionalism’ is a fantasy. By comparison Australia’s Westminster System appears to be functioning well at the moment.
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I have to say your name three times to summon you, or go to the cross roads.
Stay on your level.
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>”…martial law would create the impression that the US is a failed state”
Wont happen IMO. The Dems have been goading with this for a while but I don’t think Trump will fall for it (could be wrong).
Several scenarios including this:
‘Donald Trump and the Avignon Presidency’
By Steve Deace
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/12/donald_trump_and_the_avignon_presidency.html
“A full-fledged cold civil war is underway”
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Not doing anything is letting the State succumb to the rot caused by thoise who hate the USA, or so it seems.
Responsibility means having to do unpleasant stuff….
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‘its important to focus on keeping democracy afloat.’
el gordo,
Democracy is fragile. It depends on ‘both’ sides accepting elections shown to be fairly executed. Most would agree, troops on the streets are the last thing one wants to ever see. imo, troops on the street indicate democracy has failed. In these circumstances that failure is total failure of all the protective systems, political, legal and social.
In such circumstances, your acceptance of a fraudulent election maybe an answer to keeping the peace within society. That however both accepts the fraud and the actions of the fraudsters that the legal system itself has failed to prosecute, protect society and possibly itself becomes part of the fraud.
The Democrats have already stated, they wish to increase the number of States and increase the Supreme Court numbers with the intention of making it as near to impossible as they can make it to prevent the Republicans from ever winning another election. That would be the fruit of accepting an acknowledged fraud for four years, presuming the Dems can knock over Congress.
Furthermore, Biden seems quite chipper at the idea of handing over to Harris (on ‘health’ grounds) now he has attained the POTUS status. That puts the US in the hands of the most extreme cabal from the left that anyone has seen. It is likely that the USA would be changed unrecognisably very quickly under the combination of socialist extremists and globalists as per the billionaires seen in action this election.
The question therefore, if there has been large scale fraud deliberately not recognised by the legal system – it has been said one can’t expect too much of individual judges where the safety of ‘seeing no evil’ salvages their own careers and possibly lives by refusing to call out large-scale fraud – what should POTUS do? Salvage Democracy or accept a fraud that changes the nation totally and forever?
It is beyond my simple mind because the scale of disruption in calling in the troops itself is also a huge risk to the peace and future of the nation. This is where the inate nature of Trump, the business-experienced, non politician, cage fighter so feared by China, could determine the future. Trump is adamant he has been fraudulently dudded in this election. Barr, somewhat outside the range of his job (I gather) says he hasn’t seen large enough fraud to change the result – but as AG he is also faced with the magnitude of any case requiring troops on the streets to face another election.
One gets the feeling this is getting very untidy and dangerous all-round, but the justice of what happens, and the future of the Democracy itself is very dependent on where the truth around the electoral voting system lies. Trump has the ability to make this an increasingly knife-edge security proposition. If I was a Democrat that knew there has been widespread, deliberate fraud that got them ‘home’ in just those swing States, as needed, I would also be asking myself very very hard as to how far I would want to play this dangerous-to-the-nation, and my family, game. Trump has the same problem in reverse if he simply will not accept the result without good basis. One hopes it is more than just a 50-50 proposition by either side.
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I think that’s a given for Tristan, PS.
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I do not want to legitimize the President seizing power as an established practice.
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We are talking about the President overturning a Supreme Court decision, using armed force. That might be the end of the American system.
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You write “but if he has the evidence to prove to himself ”
I don’t think Trump would have any difficulty in proving it to himself. He did that in September well before there was any evidence at all
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two links that might be of interest;
the first is in the lockdown sceptic series ‘A postcard from’ and concerns your relatively near neighbours
https://lockdownsceptics.org/2020/12/03/latest-news-212/#postcard-from-new-zealand
The second examines the statistics behind the UK ‘excess deaths’ figure. I have lived through five numerically worse pandemics than this one, and the latest analysis demonstrates that ‘excess deaths’ have been substantially greater in the past without everyone becoming hysterical, closing down the economy and the West going mad and trying its best to tear itself apart
https://lockdownsceptics.org/the-bizarre-world-of-truth-in-the-covid-era/
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Interesting link , scroll to foot to see the story
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9014395/Up-QUARTER-Covid-19-admissions-caught-virus-hospital.html
Up to 20% of covid cases in the UK were by people who caught it in hospital. Bearing in mind people have been staying away from them this seems a high number.
Up to 40% of all covid deaths in the UK were in care homes wth average age at death of 82 with several comorbitities average life expectancy here is 80
Many of the deaths were caused when elderly patients were sent from hospital to care homes without testing in order to make room for the expected rush. Of covid cases from the community.
The vast majority of UK hospitals are quieter than they were this time last year.
The authorities have made things far worse by their panic and hysteria. Which is not to say its not a nasty virus but the vast majority of people will not catch it and of those that do survival rate is over99%
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Can we please get over this “panic and hysteria”, “bungling and incompetence” nonsense?
What has happened, is happening, and is about to happen, is a well planned, coordinated, and executed intent to replace democracies with totalitarian, Fascist regimes, particularly in the five English speaking democracies, the UK, the USA, Canada, New Zealand and Australia (the five UKUSA Pact countries).
There is no “Covid 19 pandemic”; there never was. What there is, is the implementation of a plan finalised at a three day conference of the WEF in October of last year, financed by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
See Event 201
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Agreed.
And all you hear now is blanket “vaccine ……vaccine…… vaccine”
Hear anything about HCQ or *gasp* …no vaccine?
Vaccines appear to be used as a control grid, not a theraputic.
G*tes has repeatedly hinted that vaccination is about making sure people are *documented* which means they can be *controlled*.
Its never been about science, its been about politics and control.
I said this when it exhibited the trademark NWO modus operandii of blanket media coverage and hype ( exact same play book as 9 11 )
Its BS stacked on BS.
Nuff said.
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I notice that it is hard to get people who were praising Sweden to even look at the data from there now that it is now well known that the data processing delays cause the fake decline always seen in he last two weeks of data.
Sweden’s daily death tolls are now 40 times higher than they were in September and still growing. The futile attempt “herd immunity” failed. It was always obvious that it would because it is self preventing. It was always just a preparation for vaccination.
Sweden is now entirely gripped by “panic and hysteria” while states here that either deliberately or accidentally eliminated it have returned to life almost normal.
Their freedoms are gone.
https://www.krisinformation.se/en/hazards-and-risks/disasters-and-incidents/2020/official-information-on-the-new-coronavirus/restriktioner-och-forbud
Sweden’s death toll in people under 70 years of age is more than double Australia’s total deaths per head of population.
Australia’s only real problem is returning refugees fleeing such diseased shit holes.
People like to compare places where “flattening the curve” suppression failed and place where “herd immunity” failed.
Why wish to continue to live in fear and panic that does not exist where it has been eliminated?
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I think your info is flat out wrong…
From https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
“Coronavirus (COVID-19) deaths worldwide per one million population as of December 3, 2020, by country
USA deaths/million 830.35 ( Lockdowns )
UK deaths/million 891.79 ( Lockdowns )
Sweden deaths/million 677.85 ( no lockdowns )
QED
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Thanks Steve,
I agree with you.
Siliggy, Please Explain.
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Peter C and OriginalSteve
The key here is being able to predict what will happen. I have been arguing this very point with three guys, two on social media and one via emails since early March. All three are well known on this blog. Two of the three have begun to see it and understand. How long will it take Peter C and OriginalSteve?
An example of prediction is “People like to compare places where “flattening the curve” suppression failed and places where “herd immunity” failed.
OriginalSteve has done EXACTLY as predicted in comment #7.1.1.2.1
He likes to compare the USA and the U.K where suppression strategies have failed to Sweden where the herd immunity strategy failed.
Why this seems like an argument against elimination is beyond my comprehension. Can you please explain how comparing two failed approaches to each other even relates to elimination. Can you explain how mentioning lockdowns when i did not mention them in that comment is relevant. How does that comparison instead of comparing countries with an elimination strategy to ones without even seem sensible?
How about comparing Taiwan’s elimination strategy with no lockdowns to Sweden’s herd immunity strategy with voluntary lockdowns?
Please make it clear what information you think is wrong. Are you claiming Sweden does not have restrictions of eight people at church services or protests etc for example?
If that is what you think is wrong please notice that link provided is an official government website from Sweden. The Swedish Civil contingencies Agency.
Are you claiming Sweden’s death toll in people under 70 years of age is not more than double Australia’s total death toll per head of population?
If so you can add the numbers up yourself from here. They have separate columns for each age bracket(Avlidna per åldersgrupp).
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/smittskydd-beredskap/utbrott/aktuella-utbrott/covid-19/statistik-och-analyser/bekraftade-fall-i-sverige/
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If it was That Sweden’s attempt at “herd immunity” was always just a preparation for vaccination that you dis agree with…
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Imagine how chaotic it would be without all the actions to prevent the spread. Once the hospitals are in chaos the issues compound rapidly.
My son was rostered into one of the hospitals in Melbourne in the worst area at the peak of the second wave. About half of their designated Covid staff were isolating when he arrived. It was tedious work for about a month until the numbers started to decline. Melbourne peaked at a daily case rate of 750 across a population of 5M. It was made worse because about 50% of those contracting the virus came from aged care. About half the rest were staff in aged care or hospitals.
One aspect that made it difficult to manage was that every arrival at hospital had to be assumed to be Covid infected until proven otherwise or confirmed as being infected. It took quite a while to develop practices that adequately separated arrivals from those infected.
I have been having regular zoom meetings with a university student in Lebanon. He said that Lebanon is chaotic right now – hospitals overflowing. He was explaining why they have rolling power outages. He avoided death from the blast by about 30 minutes – he had been doing some outdoor training just before the blast in a field that was decimated. He has contracted Covid but it hardly affected him. He was dosing on Vitamin C and zinc supplements and believe they helped. But a lot of very sick people are not getting adequate care. Lebanon was doing well before the Beirut explosion but cases rose rapidly following that and death rate may not have peaked yet.
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Thanks Rick,
Your son gives some interesting perspectives there.
The lack of preparedness was and is disturbing. We apparently have a disaster planning group. What did they do?
Tony Abbott gave a recent speech in London. He said he gave consideration to the prospect of a pandemic when he was federal health minister. What happened to the federal stock pile of drugs and PPE?
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The test of a plan is its implementation. The plans in Australia did not pass that test.
There were many poor practices highlighted that enhanced the rate of spread. The worst was probably the use of contract cleaning firms that sourced staff from low socio-economic locations and then working them across a range of facilities. High standards for PPE in terms of effectiveness, training in use and disciplined use was not a high priority. My physician son is regarded as “anal” by his brothers and cousins when it comes to hygiene. This placed him well to be meticulous about his PPE. He had occasion to politely suggest to more senior hospital staff that they should have a rest as he observed they were getting careless with PPE.
Covid rages on in parts of the world but there is no doubt it is worse for older and already infirm. The perspective and efforts may be different if it was killing people at the other end of the age spectrum.
I think Victoria continues to hold the world record for Covid lockdowns. Apart from masks, things are mostly back to normal. The price paid has probably been worth it but it gives me no joy that Dan the man is regarded as the saviour rather than the demon; he sits at the head of an incompetent government.
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Such a price would not have been necessary if Dan had done his job properly…it’s down to him and his team of utter incompetents that we landed in this frightful situation.
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This was sent to me a couple of weeks ago. “Victoria’s Chief Health Officer, Brett Sutton is the brother of Trevor Sutton, who is the husband of Jane Halton, who represented Australia at EVENT 201 on October 2019 in New York City, which held a pandemic simulation exercise. She is the chair of board at the World Health Organisation and works for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, she is Australia’s Covid-19 Coordantor an she is the person that both our Federal and State governments answer to.”
Interesting. That would be why Hydroxichloerequine treat was basically outlawed. All directives would be top down with no dissent.
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Thanks,
That helps explain a lot.
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Just another coincidence.
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First impulse is to say “that’s amazing”, but knowing how the World works, it’s simply a confirmation.
Ugly stuff.
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Let’s not forget that he is a self-styled climate scientist and therefore completely alienated from the truth a circumstance which was confirmed by his unsatisfactory performance at the Coate inquiry into Victoria’s failed hotel quarantine; it’s surprising that he’s hung onto the sinecure of Chief Health Officer this long –surely he’ll soon be gone.
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Tony, have you seen the utube video of George Christensen in the senate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZgeM_yoWVE&feature=emb_logo
He said that the average age of deaths WITH Covid-19 is 86 while the average lifespan is 82. That is the deaths have been from elderly people who may have had other reasons from being near death. Victoria has been responsible for about 90% of all Australian deaths with Covid-19. It is likely the deaths were elderly in large migrant families, in hospitals with patients there for other causes and in aged care homes where the stupid health officials in Vic did nothing. It also should be noted that deaths from those who caught the virus on cruise ships were all of elderly persons and that NSW health officials & the health minister are also not blameless.
The is now studies which show that masks are useless and total lockdowns (WHO advise)are of no benefit. The elderly particularly in aged care homes should have been looked after better.
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cementafriend
Isn’t it fairly obvious that well after the mistakes got Victoria into a near hopeless mess that the lockdown was a bg part of what did work? The WHO have shown again and again that they do not give reliable advice.
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Something worked and worked very well. Spread of then virus was contained. However NSW achieved a quicker result with far less restriction of civil liberties and less commercial damage.
I think we (ie our health authorities) should analyse all that and develop far better strategies for the future.
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Peter C
“NSW achieved a quicker result” Not true. It is not even over here yet. It has only been two days since the last known community spread infection in N.S.W. not that it is really “over” anywhere.
If you want to point to a state as having done well look at the Northern Territory. 245 days without a local case and no deaths at all.
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No Sliggy the lockdown was unnecessary if they would have properly isolated the spreaders and their contacts (eg large migrant families or are you going to say that is racist or against the spirit of socialist agenda. It was Lebanese at the isolation hotels and the meat works). Aged care places should have been protected better such as testing all staff regularly, testing of temperature of all persons entering premises, having all persons entering wear adequate masks when dealing with elder physical unfit persons, making sure that no staff worked at more than one place etc.
In Qld at no time were people banned from exercising outside in the fresh air. Could swim at the beach (note around the world there is no evidence of anyone catching the virus outside if the kept socia distancing) They could go to the supermarket, they could get takeaway food.
Andrews and Sutton (plus Van Diemen) were responsible for over 800 deaths while banning people playing golf. In New York Trump had no say in any health issue while Govenor Cuomo was personally responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands.
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Cementafriend.
Thank you for attempting to paint me into some strange and incorrect political position. Have you stopped using gumboots with goats?
It was nice to see some of my own arguments being preached back at me.
“at no time were people banned from exercising outside in the fresh air.”
Here is a bit of a comment i posted in April.
“”By the 1850s, Florence Nightingale (1820–1910) was writing about the importance of sunlight and copious amounts of fresh air in the recovery of hospital patients,26,27”
https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdf/10.2105/AJPH.2008.134627
For a long time i have been pointing out the non vitamin D beneficial effects of UV light to the point of analysing the the period bifurcation in harmonic synchronisation with the lunar modulation of the ozone alteration of UV light? . Jo has many posts about Vitamin D here.
The Victorian lockdown was bizarre and used for other agendas but it did work. Not as well as the right wing government lockdown of Peter Gutwein in Tasmania it copied though.
The position Australia is now in and has worked toward for a long time is what i stated that we should have done in the beginning. If we had been aware of our own history we could have been in the position we are in now from the start.
Here is a comment i made on this blog back in April.
How it went in 1918. Quotes from a longer article that is worth a full read. “Australia was the only country in the world to attempt to set up a quarantine defence against the epidemic, and for several months the defence was very successful. Even when the epidemic did, somehow or other, get working in Australia, it was of a slightly milder form than that which had ravaged most of the rest of the world.”
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/248264358
“A similar story unfolded on the on the Australian island of Tasmania, which implemented strict quarantine measures for boats arriving on its shores that required all passengers and crew to be isolated for seven days. When the infection penetrated the island in August 1919, medical officers reported that it was a milder infection than that on the mainland. The death rate on Tasmania was one of the lowest recorded worldwide.”
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20181023-the-places-that-escaped-the-spanish-flu
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This might have helped in Kiwiland, but it seems they fell to the Millenium Bug.
Til then they were sinking twice as fast as Sydney…not much.
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?id=690-002
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Unless my eyes are deceiving me, …and ignoring the simplified trend line….
…that data suggests there has been little if any change since 1960 ?
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…….and odd that there is no data for the last 20 years ??
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Shhh.
You weren’t supposed to notice that.
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…and isnt NZ directly over a major Tectonic fault line ?
In 1855 the land mass around Wellington was raised 6.0 METERS by an earthquake that lasted 50 secs !
So dont ask me to worry over a few mm’s change in a 100 years !
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Stopped at 2000? Why?
For those who remember, the original measure of their looming catastrophe was in the accelerating rise of the sea level, which would give us 50 million climate refugees by about fifteen years ago.
I took to highlighting Sydney’s tidal record as published by NOAA, which showed a remarkably stable rise of 0.65 mm/year since 1886.
Then in about 2010 noaa terminated that front page chart for Sydney. Not other places that I looked up for comparison. I didn’t notice that Auckland had been terminated around 2000.
After about 7 or 8 years they started fiddling with the space post 2010, dropped the fiddle, and lately extended the chart to show that yes, the rate of rise is now 0.75 mm/year.
That site is very interesting, and probably has the correct data there somewhere, but some questions are warranted.
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From time to time at a medieval bacchanal a charismatic figure would arise, and, in an excess of
religious zeal and influence of adult beverage, convince the assembly to expunge their sins by
casting their possessions into the celebratory bonfire. The hung over villagers would stagger out
the next morning and ask, “what have we done?”. If the spellbinder had a fast horse, he might survive,
if not such period delights as being broken on a wheel were applied.
We are almost there. When the virus recedes; When commercial districts the world over fail to return; When the cost of lockdown
becomes evident, the piper will need to be paid.
Will we accept one last round of lies? “But for us and our perfect, perfectly timed actions, it would have been worse!” all those
in office will cry out. Deaf ears, remembering ‘rules for me but not for thee’ may not be amused.
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Outstanding.
This summary has everything.
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In case you haven’t noticed the Orwellian world depicted in his novel 1984 has by and large has almost been completely implemented in the West. In time it will become obvious to all, especially when people are being rounded up and sent to retraining camps or executed. Trump is our last hope to stop it dead in its tracks over the next 4 years. I doubt he will succeed even if he stays as POTUS but at least he will give it a good try.
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Trump will concede and give the job to Biden and the democratic socialists. They intend to introduce gun law reform, drug law reform and universal health cover in their first term. Do you have a problem with that?
Orwellian behaviour is alive and well in China, whereas Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World is closer to Western reality.
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IMHO Trump will not conceded. I might be wrong but that’s my view given he has the support millions of Americans who believe the election was stolen from him.
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The main difference between the two depictions of the future is the specific of how the people are controlled. The rest is just cosmetic. The end result is pretty much the same. Once the NWO is in place neither will probably be a fully accurate depiction of reality and will be moot.
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‘ … the two depictions of the future is the specific of how the people are controlled.’
Agreed, good observation.
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Not likely.
It may be Biden who concedes. It is said that he is wearing an ankle bracelet under his moon boot!
https://richardsonpost.com/howellwoltz/19218/is-biden-crime-family-seeking-a-deal-to-avoid-prison/
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Peter C you might be onto something there with the ankle bracelet, there’s a photo of Biden getting out of a car and stepping onto the sidewalk and what is noticeable is he is weight bearing on his injured foot .
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The Provos used to injure peoples knees and ankles from memory…..by way of a warning….
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I recall the same story doing the rounds while Hillary was wearing a boot.
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Forgot the sarc tag eg?
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TedM you would hope he left it off .
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Peter. If Trump returns as President, the sun will rise in the West. I haven’t yet given up hope that he may have outsmarted our enemies.
If Trump returns from here, he will have no opposition. Even China will listen to what he says. He won’t need four years to set things straight either. It’ll start happening immediately.
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Please read. The article is not too long.
https://lawliberty.org/sustainable-newspeak-by-2050/
ESSAY NOVEMBER 30, 2020
Sustainable Newspeak by 2050
peter foster
George Orwell pointed out that one of the first casualties of socialism is language. The damage is not collateral, it is deliberate—designed to numb minds and render critical thought difficult or impossible. The instrument of this dumbing down in Nineteen Eighty-Four was Newspeak, the official language of the English Socialist Party (Ingsoc). Newspeak was a sort of Totalitarian Esperanto that sought gradually to diminish the range of what was thinkable by eliminating, contracting, and manufacturing words. New words had a “political implication” and “were intended to impose a desirable mental attitude upon the person using them.” The meaning of words was often reversed, as was most starkly emphasized in the key slogans of Ingsoc:
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
Nineteen Eighty-Four was written in 1949. Its nightmarish fictional world is now 36 years in the past, so one might reasonably conclude that Orwell was far too pessimistic, but his great book was less a prediction than a warning, and above all an analysis of the totalitarian mentality. Meanwhile, there is another significant date in Nineteen Eighty-Four. The book’s Appendix on the principles of Newspeak stressed that the corruption of language was a multi-generational project whose fruition would not come until well into the present century. Ingsoc’s objective was to render independent thought impossible by “about 2050.”
Intriguingly, that is the same year that the world allegedly has to become “carbon neutral,” or “Net Zero,” to avoid climate Armaggedon.
(See link for rest.)
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By 2050 there will be a new world order.
“…most men and women will grow up to love their servitude and will never dream of revolution.” ― Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
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Correct, although the date is most likely way out. I suspect it will be more like 2030 but of course only time will tell.
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Doubleplus good, David.
One small point. Orwell was not “out” on his date. It wasn’t a prediction.
He actually wrote it in 1948, and the title is simply a reversal of those year numbers.
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This scholarly paper from 2008 mentions SARS-CoV-3.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2395109/
Was it already produced 12 years ago but the CCP are yet to unleash it?
A more highly weaponised version of SARS-CoV-2?
If they can bring down the West, including the United States, with Version 2, what do you suppose will happen with Version 3?
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Both the virus, and the vaccine for it, were patented by a consortium of investors headed up by Bill Gates and Dr Fauci, back in 2018. They intend making a humungous amount of money out of it.
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The World meteorological organisation declares 2020 as the second hottest after 2016, with ocean heat content being the highest on record.
no wonder the International Union for Conservation of Nature (UNESCO is the parent) has said that in Australia, the Gondwana Rainforests, the Blue Mountains, and the Great Barrier Reef are all now listed as critical.
These are facts, refute them with facts, not assertions.
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Almost every year is the “hottest eeeevvveeeerrr” or second hottest according to WMO, but if you are using fake data in the first place the claim is utterly without merit.
Tony Heller and others have extensively documented climate data fraud, there is no point reposting it all here. See his videos on YouTube or now, NewTube because he is moving there due to YouTube censorship of him. Leftists cannot handle alternate opinions so they always resort to censorship. A feeble mind must be a terrible thing to have.
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in a warming world, almost every year will be the hottest, or second hottest – so you support the WMO
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Yes, but the data is constructed to “prove” the political claim of anthropogenic global warming. Of cause every year will be hotter than previous according to the political ideology being promoted.
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David if temperatures don’t fall with this La Nina then we’ll have to accept that CO2 causes warming.
http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_November_2020_v6.jpg
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Do they have the same reliability as the World Health Organization, a child of the same parent?
If so, the only “fact” is that a statement was made; the underlying ground truth will need further investigation.
I would suggest that the lives of citizens in jurisdictions where their economies are being failed purposly by their
governments are also “critical”.
As someone who grew up farming, I’m not especially fond of of a low-carbon-dioxide-world, but since a nuclear option
exists that doesn’t visit privation upon the population to satisfy even the most extreme adherent of the precautionary
principle, it’s really easy to write the UN off as an expensive and narcissistic noisemaker with a few really ugly
hate groups and awful autocracies attached.
Not surprising, since more and more they seem a wholly owned subsidiary of China.
Let me make a legitimate request for information, Peter. I am an American, and pretty ignorant about the Great Barrier reef, tho
as we have domestic coral and coral research I know a tiny bit. From 13,000 years ago, we have seen several hundred meters rise in sea
levels and a temperature rise sufficicient to end glaciation. What has been the general development pattern of the Reef, and why is that development threatened now; we are far more concerned here with agricultural runoff, and/or localized salinity change for our tiny reefs as they exist naturally over a 20 degree F temperature range.
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do your own research, the WMO is not hard to find, their research is public, their data sources are listed. Don’t wave your hands and claim ignorance in a world where facts are but a mouse click away.
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>”do your own research, the WMO is not hard to find”
OK, just did and you’re right. Just jumps right out:
PERSPECTIVES ON MAURICE STRONG
VIII. Ontario’s Predictable Energy Disaster; Mortgaged To Falsified Climate Science. The Solution Is Readily Available.
by Dr. Tim Ball on August 2, 2013
How do you cause civilizations to collapse? Why is CO2 the focus? It’s less than 4 percent of the greenhouse gases and ALL records show temperature increases before CO2, opposite to the fundamental assumption of the IPCC hypothesis. Strong did it through the IPCC using the World Meteorological Organization (WMO).
Fossil fuels drive the industrial economies and CO2 is a byproduct. Show it’s causing irreparable climate damage and you can demand alternative energy replacements. Strong achieved this with the IPCC and at Ontario Hydro. He used the narrow definition of climate change created by the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), as only human caused changes. Trouble is this is impossible if you don’t know the amount and cause of natural change.
IPCC created the science to prove human CO2 was the problem and the politics to claim failure to act guarantees catastrophe. Strong controlled who participated through the bureaucracies of the World Meteorological Organization (WMO). An Assistant Deputy Minister of Environment Canada (EC), who subsequently controlled most Canadian climate research funding, chaired the IPCC formation meeting in 1985. As Richard Lindzen explained,
“IPCC’s emphasis, however, isn’t on getting qualified scientists, but on getting representatives from over 100 countries”.
Using Weather Departments gave bureaucrats ascendancy over politicians as the Canadian situation proves.
The IPCC Summary for Policymakers (SPM) was designed to deceive. It differs greatly from the Science Report and is deliberately released months earlier. David Wojick, IPCC expert reviewer explained,
https://naturalclimatechange.org/perspectives-on-maurice-strong/
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all of which have been proved false or otherwise debunked – fact not assertions are required
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I live a short kayak ride away from a lab where the State of Florida has succeeded in breeding coral in a lab and reintroducing it into the wild, solving one specific problem we have here. I had hoped there might be an actual serious conversation available. My Bad. Won’t happen again.
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Corals as a sub class tolerate a wide range of habitats, however, corals as a species have adapted to a specific environmental niche. What makes the Great Barrier Reef a heritage site is that it has more coral species than any other reef system. So applause to the coral breeding program, but it is only one species, and thus adapted on a specific environment. you could not use that species to fix the bleaching on the Barrier Reef. What is a stake here is the diversity which has accrued after 10’s of thousands of years with relative stability.
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Can’t do anuthing about natural coral bleaching Peter.
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Peter we have covered this many times, coral bleaching happens when sea level falls temporarily, exposing the corals to direct radiation and the polyps jump ship.
It has nothing to do with warm water and usually only happens during El Nino, so natural variability is the culprit. To prove the point, BoM are saying there is a high chance of bleaching this summer because the waters are warming, but I say that is fanciful with La Nina in full stride.
What are the odds?
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Peter, welcome back, I thought you got bored and had left for good.
“These are facts” Those are assertions by WMO. Please show me facts these assertions are based on. Thank you.
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since you lack the acumen to do your own research: https://public.wmo.int/en/our-mandate/climate/wmo-statement-state-of-global-climate
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Link will open but the 2020 report won’t , can someone find out how far back in time the 2nd hottest evahhhh claim goes .
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“since you lack the acumen…”
Ah Peter, that’s why I missed you, you never resort to ad hominem attacks (/sarc)
First they start by saying CO2 is the most commonly addressed Greenhouse Gas, but they admit that the COVID-19 had no impact on the increase of CO2 which would lead one to believe that wherever the CO2 increase is coming from, man has little to do with it.
Next they mention “Ocean Acidification” yet their own chart shows that the oceans are no where near “acidic” and are in fact basic.
Next they mention the correlation between Greenhouse gases and Temperature, but if they can’t explain why CO2 is still rising despite a major reduction in CO2 by man, they don’t even know if reducing man’s output of CO2 will have an impact on temperatures.
Next they mention “Extreme Events” but not even the IPCC agrees that there is a link between CO2 and “Extreme Events”
Next they mention Ocean Heat Content. I am pretty dubious about this measurement given how few argo floats there are compared to the size of the oceans. They also mention Sea surface rise at about 1.2 inches/decade (not too scary), but tide gauges show only about 0.7 inches /decade (even less scary). Some of the Pacific islands that are supposed to be underwater soon don’t seemed to be too worried as they are building more airports to attract more tourists.
Next they mention Glacial Mass, but even they admit that the loss was close to long-term average but they do throw out a big number (15GT) to scare people which is pretty trivial compared to the total mass of 3,902GT
Next they mention Sea Ice extent, but even they admit that Antarctica is close to long term averages. They do mention that the Artic sea ice is low, but that will have no impact on sea level, the polar bears are thriving despite all of the dire predictions of their demise and in any case it has never reached the predicted ice-free state and even if it does it wouldn’t be the first time that happened and nothing dire happened then.
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you are reading the summary, follow the links for the veracity. For example, what major reduction in CO2?
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“you are reading the summary…”
So the summary lies but the detailed links don’t? Kind of like the IPCC “Summary for Policymakers” which often conflicts with the IPCC Assessment report.
“For example, what major reduction in CO2?”
That 4 to 7% reduction in CO2 in 2020
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Hmm – the fact that you are using percentages shows that you do not understand the scale. What they are saying is that because of the pandemic, their model shows that their would be a reduction, but…. The article is a projection using mean 2019 figures, and without any 2020 measurements. Therefore if you believe this, you must accept all other CO2 models.
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“Therefore if you believe this, you must accept all other CO2 models.”
That is a complete non sequitur and as such, typical of your thought processes.
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a pH change from 8.11 to 8.06 is not an acidic trend? what would you need?
for example the Smithsonian point out that the observed change will have an impact on shellfish, and therefore the industry which harvests these.
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“a pH change from 8.11 to 8.06 is not an acidic trend?”
No, it is a neutralization trend. It has to get below 7.0 to become acidic. Greater than 7.0 is basic. Basic Chemistry (no pun intended).
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ah pedantry, the refuge of the wrong
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“ah pedantry, the refuge of the wrong”
Yes, wrong is a good description of you.
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Please, no more insertions, Gondwana can’t take any more.
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“Please, no more insertions, Gondwana can’t take any more.”
Last I heard, Gondwana’s problem was deletions not insertions.
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That too.
Sometimes it’s hard to tell the difference.
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>”The World meteorological organisation declares 2020 as the second hottest after 2016″
Still short of the CO2-forced climate models.
>…with ocean heat content being the highest on record.”
The IPCC’s OH attribution is speculation – “expected [anthro] mechanism is air-sea fluxes”. Expected Latin root is spec which gives speculation. They have no physical evidence after 25 years and 5 Assessment reports. Their surface energy balance precludes it and so does The Clausius statement of the Second Law.
OH is 93% of the observed energy increase in ZetaJoules (Atm only 1%). Their RF theory paradigm at TOA generates a humungous excess that they have to sink somewhere, anywhere, so they have to invoke ‘surface forcing’ (a concept they explicitly rejected in AR4) to “impute” excess theoretical energy at TOA to the ocean. Bypassing their surface energy balance in their scientifically fraudulent process.
The IPCC’s theory of man-made climate change dies stone cold dead without 270+ ZJ of OH attribution – and dead it is.
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At least you understand energy, but the rest of your comment is a waste of time, where are your facts?
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“the rest of your comment is a waste of time, where are your facts?”
Those ARE the facts gleaned from UN IPCC AR4/AR5:
Observations: Atmosphere
Observations: Ocean
Radiative Forcing
Climate Models
Attribution
and,
Technical Summary (no, not the summary for Policy Wonks & Dummies)
The Technical Summary provides the IPCC’s Theory-Observation reconciliation:
TFE.4, Figure 1
https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/wg1/technical-summary/figts_tfe-4-1/
Cited within Observations are the Energy Budgets e.g. Stephens et al 2012:
‘An update on Earth’s energy balance in light of the latest global observations’
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/260208782_An_update_on_Earth%27s_energy_balance_in_light_of_the_latest_global_observations
You might not find the Clausius statement of the Second Law of Thermodynamics on the internet but you will in ubiquitous texts such as Kinskey’s ‘Applied Heat’.
Personally I prefer Abdussamatov’s synopsis for this application:
“Heat rises up, not down”.
BTW, the IPCC chooses NOT to defer to the entire body of literature covering radiation-matter interaction pertaining to their “air-sea fluxes” across the AO interface. That research and literature gave us laser eye surgery i.e. if you are going to point a laser at someone’s eye then it’s probably a good idea to do some radiation-matter research starting with, say, water.
The IPCC dispenses with such trivia.
Their attributions are in their..err..Attribution chapters.
# # #
In short, the IPCC’s own Assessment Reports are self indicting.
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Mods: My response #12.5.1.1 has gone into moderation – 2 links, 1 to Research Gate might be dodgy.
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>”The World meteorological organisation declares 2020 as the second hottest after 2016″
But total BS when we look at NH – SH split:
GFS 2m-T
http://www.karstenhaustein.com/climate.php
2020 SH is fluctuating around 0 anomaly from the 1981-2010 climatology i.e. no “climate change”.
A global mean temperature is meaningless when NH and SH are disparate datasets. The WMO’s statement is wonderful propaganda for the gullible but it’s scientifically fraudulent.
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In response to all the “hottest ever…” claims I posit this:
1. I assume that there is a linear positive correlation between global average temperatures and local average temperatures at any site on the globe over the long run.
2. I also assume that there is an inverse linear relationship between local average temperatures and glacier coverage, in those parts of the world that have them.
I doubt anyone on this site would dispute those assumptions as being reasonable.
What I would like is for someone from the warmist camp to then explain how retreating ice in Norway has uncovered large caches of Neolithic artefacts including hunting implements and reindeer bones. See the report over at “watts up with that” for details. These remains have been carbon dated and the objects were deposited over a period of many centuries.
So, either the glaciers in question had a more or less stationary crevasse that existed for hundreds of years into which lost and snow blind prehistoric humans kept losing their arrows and spears, or at some time in the last 5 – 10,000 years these areas were ice free for periods of time measured in centuries. I tend to go with Occam’s Razor on that one and assume that the area was ice free, ergo as per my assumptions local and global average temperatures had to be at least as warm then as they are today or horror of horrors even warmer. I would suggest that the amount of anthropogenic carbon dioxide emitted in 5000BC was quite small and had no impact on temperatures back then so I can’t think what might have caused such a calamitous situation..(perhaps the sun was involved?)
Frankly I think that these alarmist claims are factually impossible to verify with any reliability on any timescale that is relevant to climate (geological scales spring to mind) and should automatically attract an appropriate Twitter label of “DUMB Alarmist Statement follows..”
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Of course you are correct, natural variability has a cyclic component, which appears to be a random walk just a step away from chaos.
If you are interested look at the Minoan Warm Period, Roman Warm Period, Medieval Warm Period and our present modern climate optimum, its a slippery slope. The Holocene Interglacial has reached its used by date.
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“Ever” is easy when that extends back only 10-20 years
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Their abc is broadcsting ‘live’ from the GBR tonight Friday 5, and Sunday 8 on the annual spawning.
Either half the GBR died years ago, twice, making it worse than the desolation of Smaug, or it will be a celebration of life.
Make sure tune in PF, and report back on what you observe.
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The Nino 34 region has no trend over 40 years. If you see a trend then look at the measurement system.
https://1drv.ms/b/s!Aq1iAj8Yo7jNg3j-MHBpf4wRGuhf
You can confirm this by looking at numerous sources of the SST data for this region; considered critical for determining weather in Pacific rim land masses like Australia.
The ocean heat content is based on Argo descending and ascending buoys. The claimed change in temperature since 2004 is within the error bars. The had to fiddle the data to get an upward trend:
https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/3/1/e1601207.full
Tropical ocean water cannot exceed 32C. Surface level sunlight reaches a maximum when SST is at 27C. Above that temperature the clouds dominate and reflect increasing level of sunlight such that the surface can never exceed 32C in open ocean water:
https://1drv.ms/b/s!Aq1iAj8Yo7jNg3qPDHvnq-L6w5-5
If you see any date showing trends over decades then look for the error in the measurement system such as data homogenisation, instrument bias, instrument drift, spatial anomalies or any other of the myriad cause of poor data.
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Here is your evidence
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/bill-barr-got-voter-fraud-ag-barr-video-attempted-steal-georgia-arrests/
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And for those too lazy to read through it, here is the CCTV footage of the Georgia counters pulling out additional ballots after the Republican observers and media had left because “counting was closed” for the night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIdOv3Q05X0
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And again here, with commentary;
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/12/03/stunning-cctv-video-from-fulton-county-georgia-shows-workers-unloading-suitcases-of-ballots-after-monitors-told-to-leave-for-night/
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And here again with an article describing the circumstances in detail
https://www.ntd.com/georgia-state-farm-arena-footage-shows-poll-workers-staying-behind-pulling-out-suitcases-with-ballots_535817.html
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This is no longer a case of saying where there is smoke there is fired. The fire has been exposed and it was raging all along. Imagine the amount of voter fraud that hasn’t been caught on camera. We now know that to be the case thanks to the hundreds of eye witness accounts with affidavits. This is a major point of the history of the US in the making.
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Surely these four have already rolled over and blurted out the name of the person who instructed them. Yeah we won’t get caught as Trump supposed the organisers saying. The fix was in, they were home and hosed. Nobody’s going to look at the cctv and anyway disabling it is not an option.
Who can live with this?
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Good point. If I were them I would be among the hundreds of eye witness with affidavits. However, they have to balance that with the threats they might have received from those who organised the fraud. It’s a tough decision that I would hate to be in a position to make, but I would hope to do the right thing and expose the evil doers.
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In other evidence they have a Dominion machine from Ware County Georgia with evidence of Trump votes being switched to Biden… John Fredericks on Steve Bannon War Room https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwL8EfOt2Ks&feature=youtu.be
Go to about 52 minutes.
From transcript…He’s got a Dominion machine that they were able to do a forensic study on in Ware County it’s a small [Georgia] county. He’s got evidence that this machine has flipped the votes. They flipped votes, they flipped 37 votes in Ware County he’s got the evidence from Donald J. Trump to Joe Biden.
Now 37 doesn’t seem like a lot of votes, but it’s a very small county. It represents just over 0.25, actually 0.26 [percent] of the total votes cast.
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China Is National Security Threat No. 1
Resisting Beijing’s attempt to reshape and dominate the world is the challenge of our generation.
By John Ratcliffe U.S. Director of National Intelligence – WSJ
As Director of National Intelligence, I am entrusted with access to more intelligence than any member of the U.S. government other than the president. I oversee the intelligence agencies, and my office produces the President’s Daily Brief detailing the threats facing the country. If I could communicate one thing to the American people from this unique vantage point, it is that the People’s Republic of China poses the greatest threat to America today, and the greatest threat to democracy and freedom world-wide since World War II.
The intelligence is clear: Beijing intends to dominate the U.S. and the rest of the planet economically, militarily and technologically. Many of China’s major public initiatives and prominent companies offer only a layer of camouflage to the activities of the Chinese Communist Party.
I call its approach of economic espionage “rob, replicate and replace.” China robs U.S. companies of their intellectual property, replicates the technology, and then replaces the U.S. firms in the global marketplace.
If troubles reading, try this – https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome
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Wall St and US capitalists abetted China to the best of their ability. 60 000 factories were sold off, and shipped over to China, lock stock and barrel. The USA has been sold out by it’s own ruling class, in their lust for higher profit margins. Stop bleating, you’re idiots!
I’ve just finished Clive Hamilton’s ‘Hidden Hand’. All I can say is, the Chinese are thorough, and single minded in their pursuit of world domination. Western style, short term thinking is not going to cope. You’re going to have to ditch the last 40 year, greed is good mind-set, to deal with this!
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“You’re going to have to ditch the last 40 year, greed is good mind-set, to deal with this!”
And adopt the Chinese mindset for the last 71 years: “Greed (for power) is good”?
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The US has never shed its “slave owner” mentality.
Slavery Mk 1 was flawed because the slaves came to their own country and “polluted” the population with African blood.
Slavery Mk 2 was better. The elite paid Chinese slave owners to do their dirty work. It cost them some of their profit but the profit was massive and they never had it so good. But this went against Henry Ford’s maxim that he would pay his workers well enough that they could buy the car they made, for themselves. Under this model the middle class, the market, continued to shrink but the elite hate the middle class [they are too greedy and able to compete via small business] so they developed the “welfare class”. The big advantage with this is that they didn’t fund the welfare class themselves, that was done by the smucks who couldn’t shift profits overseas. They may be down market but it could be continually expanded and were never a threat to the elite.
Slavery Mk 3 is the “open borders” policy. Brown is preferable to black and these perpetually underpaid could do the domestic and construction work that could not be outsourced to China.
No wonder the elite need to rid themselves of Trump.
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‘Western style, short term thinking is not going to cope.’
The difference is that the West has democracy, which is cumbersome and clunky compared to this fascist dictatorship. The new dynasty emerged from a hundred years of chaos and when Mao died there was a strong desire to move on.
They say its socialism with Chinese characteristics, but that is only a facade.
Australia will cope if a strong party stays in power for three terms or more, a changing of the guard every four years makes it hard to restructure. The people sense the significance and will vote accordingly.
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This is odd. If voter fraud doesn’t change results why is it carried out? It is illegal after all.
The GOP, while not lifting a finger to help Trump, is mad that a NY house seat [I think] flipped after the GOP candidate who led by 28,000 votes lost by 13 [no zeros] after a judge found 30,000 “missing” ballots. The GOP doesn’t seem to care if Trump is beaten but they want all the house members they can get.
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I’m seeing reports that there is a SCOTUS precedent about election fraud in which it doesn’t matter so much as to the size of the fraud it only matters about the proven act of fraud .
This is being read by some to mean that any proven fraud will mean that Trump will win by default if indeed this does go to SCOTUS.
This precedent was set back in 1871?
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It’s not even about the proven act of fraud. It’s about convincing the judges there is sufficient probabilistic evidence that fraud took place on a large scale. It doesn’t have to be proven; that’s another sort of judgement process and it would take months. The SCOTUS will be able to make a decision one way or the other very quickly.
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Trump genuinely won the election but whether or not he is allowed to take the Oval Office, he needs to start a new political party that reflects the foundational principles of the United States. The Republicans certainly don’t reflect that today and many Republicans are hostile to Trump, being RINOs.
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Trump could start a new party, the third way, but it would require Trump TV to build a strong base. Obviously there are commercial considerations to take into account.
‘Lachlan Murdoch, the Fox Corp chief executive and Rupert Murdoch’s eldest son, is privately relaxed about the threat of a Trump TV channel, telling friends that the One America News Network, or OAN, and Newsmax are examples of how difficult it is to successfully grow a conservative network. Newsmax attracted almost 600,000 viewers at points during election night, but it remains a fraction of the Fox News audience.’ (Financial Times)
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Sorting Fact from Fiction.
The Frankfurt raid seems to have happened. It has been revealed from fairly credible sources; Rep Louie Gohmert and Generals McInerney and Flynn. However Gohmert got some details wrong initially. The raid was on the CIA computer centre in the Frankfurt Consulate, not the SCYTL company.
Internet searches come up with many bizarre assertions; eg Obama arrested for treason in Hawaii. Since Obama has been quoted in the press recently (defund the police) that seems unlikely.
Gina Haspel (CIA director) either died in the USA from unknown cause or was captured in Frankfurt. No really credible source yet so I am not sure what to believe or even assume.
Is there a plan? Did it come from Q?
I hope so.
Some of the usual suspects have been strangely quite recently, even the Hollywood celebs.
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It gets interestinger and interestinger every day, but I wish it would climax, I’m totally worn out following it.
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Buy more pop corn. You will need it.
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According to the British press twitter users are abandoning Trump, I checked, it’s 88.7M, compared to 88.8M last week – how does it feel to be abandoned and alone Mr President!
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More likely that Trump supporter are abandoning Twitter
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Not abandoning Trump.
They are abandoning Twitter and moving across to gab;
https://gab.com/realdonaldtrump
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I don’t think a 100,000 weekly change in nearly 90M constitutes abandonment – does anybody!
Just more anti-Trump ‘fake news’.
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Some breaking news, on video, about the ole’ broken water pipe trick used in clear out Republicans in Georgia watching the ballot counting.
Except there was no broken water pipe.
This took over a month to find but it’s a start toward a more honest January 2021 Georgia run off election
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cctv-video-georgia-poll-workers-sparks-election-fraud-outrage
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See comment#13 https://joannenova.com.au/2020/12/thursday-open-thread-29/#comment-2384601
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Sorry Analitik
You posted a link to the same story an hour before I did.
Keep up the good work.
I would have beat you by an hour except … My eyes were dilated at an ophthalmologist that afternoon and everything was blurry to me for many hours. It took me two hours to focus on the video and see the evidence. Then my computer needed a new battery. Then I had to throw salt on the ice in my driveway to drive to the battery store. And then my cat ate my papers. And finally, none of my faults are my faults.
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The question is, why should Republican voters bother voting, when they know the elections are rigged? It’s a lousy way to promote voting.
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That’s exactly what all these cases are for. If half the country feels disenfranchised, then the democratic process fails and the only possible outcomes will be violence and/or migrations and succession
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by the way: Staple Street Capital got $400 million from China on Oct 8, 2020, acc. to SEC
https://balance10.blogspot.com/2020/12/staple-street-got-400-million-from.html
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major clues in 11-4-2008 Learjet crash in Mexico City that killed some top gov officials
https://balance10.blogspot.com/2020/12/major-clues-in-11-4-2008-learjet-crash.html
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This Georgian Senate runoff demonstrates the wisdom of our preferential voting system.
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I contacted Jason Goodman of crowd source the truth, an requested a link to
“God Bless Staten Island” History is Made at Mac’s Public House in NYC December 2, 2020
Patriot’s stood up tonight.
This clip was shot when we arrived at Mac’s Public House, prior to tonight’s earlier live stream.
It is an impressive spontaneous turn out, Jason replied with this, hi comment was, an earlier recorded segment, was added.
After it ended, we started the live stream
https://youtu.be/5NakkKxjIiA
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Democrat superpacs already have bill boards up in Georgia saying, ‘Dont vote, elections are rigged’. “You reap on Facebook, what you sow on Facebook.” Sydney Powell is telling people not to vote until they get rid of the Dominion machines. Brazil had a paper election, they had a result on 3 hours! NY has just counted their last votes.
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Another set back for Trump. https://tinyurl.com/y4b35j68
“A divided Wisconsin Supreme Court on Thursday refused to hear President Donald Trump’s lawsuit attempting to overturn his loss to Democrat Joe Biden in the battleground state, sidestepping a decision on the merits of the claims and instead ruling that the case must first wind its way through lower courts.
In another blow to Trump, two dissenting conservative justices questioned whether disqualifying more than 221,000 ballots as Trump wanted would be the proper remedy to the errors he alleged.
The defeat on a 4-3 ruling was the latest in a string of losses for Trump’s post-election lawsuits. Judges in multiple battleground states have rejected his claims of fraud or irregularities.”
Wisconsin
Lawsuits
Elections
Courts
Wisconsin high court declines to hear Trump election lawsuit
By SCOTT BAUER
27 minutes ago
FILE – In this Nov. 7, 2020 file photo, supporters react after it was announced that President-elect Joe Biden defeated President Trump at a rally in Milwaukee. The Wisconsin Supreme Court has refused to hear President Donald Trump’s attempt to overturn his election loss to Democrat Joe Biden in the battleground state. The court on Thursday, Dec. 3 said the case must first wind its way through lower courts. (AP Photo/Morry Gash, File)
MADISON, Wis. (AP) — A divided Wisconsin Supreme Court on Thursday refused to hear President Donald Trump’s lawsuit attempting to overturn his loss to Democrat Joe Biden in the battleground state, sidestepping a decision on the merits of the claims and instead ruling that the case must first wind its way through lower courts.
In another blow to Trump, two dissenting conservative justices questioned whether disqualifying more than 221,000 ballots as Trump wanted would be the proper remedy to the errors he alleged.
The defeat on a 4-3 ruling was the latest in a string of losses for Trump’s post-election lawsuits. Judges in multiple battleground states have rejected his claims of fraud or irregularities.
Trump asked the Wisconsin Supreme Court to disqualify more than 221,000 ballots in the state’s two biggest Democratic counties, alleging irregularities in the way absentee ballots were administered. His lawsuit echoed claims that were earlier rejected by election officials in those counties during a recount that barely affected Biden’s winning margin of about 20,700 votes.
Trump’s attorney Jim Troupis said he would immediately file the case in circuit court and expected to be back before the Supreme Court “very soon.”
“It was clear from their writings that the court recognizes the seriousness of these issues, and we look forward to taking the next step,” he said in a statement.”
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This is just how the legal process in the US works to flow a case up from a district court up to to state and finally the SCOTUS through appeal.
It is the same as how you cannot directly present a case to our High Court if it can be dealt with locally (The Castle is not a realistic presentation of our legal process). Once a ruling is made at a lower court, then you can appeal to the next level of jurisdiction
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Thanks for that Analiti as I don’t know how the US Legal system operates
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You really need to read and understand things before you comment, the court did not rule on merit, it was sent back to the lower court for factual findings.
Gloat somewhere else inane
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Crakar 24
You write “Gloat somewhere else inane”
No need to. This is quite sufficient thanks.
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I think I’d better explain my reply as I think you may misunderstand it.
You wrote “Gloat somewhere else inane”.
I don’t think you realise but using “else” in that sentence is indicating you think this site is also inane.
What you should have written is “Gloat somewhere that is inane”
Hope that is now clear.
Of course it could be that you really do think this site inane.
It certainly isn’t
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Ahh good old ABC, it was sad seeing Gruen go woke – I used to like the show, still do I guess but no so much now. Intro 2 weeks ago was a nice attack on fossil fuels – I don’t even recall their message now other than it sucked. A week ago they had a go at Murdoch press because they ran some science articles sponsored by Phillip Morris… And now the ABC news ran BOMS hottest November evvahhh on record along with this year is neck and neck with the hottest evvvahhh year on record.
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Dominion contractor at Detroit counting center says thousands of ballots were scanned multiple times
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This just in:
Video: Georgia Vote Counters Appear to Pull Suitcases of Ballots from Under Table After Observers, Media Leave
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/03/video-georgia-vote-counters-suitcases-ballots-table-observers-media-leave/
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Just watched the cctv video. I don’t think it is possible to watch this video and not be convinced that fraud has taken place.
It shows the supervisor bringing in a mystery table in the morning. It then shows the same supervisor telling the observers and people to clear out about 10.30 and that counting will stop and start again in the morning.
Once the Republican observers leave the supervisor starts pulling out bags of ballots from the mystery table.
They finish the counting of these mystery ballots by 1 am. They estimate that based on a normal rate of counting that at least 30000 ballots would’ve been counted more than the winning margin.
My guess is when looking at similar dumps of Biden votes in other states that similar CCTV footage would be quite illuminating.
It frustrates me that so many commentators say that there is no evidence of systemic fraud and if there is fraud there is not enough to change the result. This video is the clearest evidence other than an admission by the culprit that fraud has taken place and that it was of a size to swing the election.
My guess and hope is that if one domino falls others will follow and maybe the truth will start to come out.
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It should not be necessary to prove the scale of the vote irregularity, simply demonstrating that a votr corruption happenrd should be sufficient to void the result.
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Social distancing separation distance around the world:
WHO recommendation. Over 1m.
China, France, Denmark and Hong Kong. 1m.
South Korea 1.4m.
Australia, Italy, Germany 1.5m.
USA 6ft (1.83m)
UK 2m.
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The very little science based advice that there is suggest that, if the virus spreads across air gaps, then socialist distancing of at least 4m is necessary.
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Comprehensive coverage of US election frauds plus actions available to be taken to rectify them.
War Room Pandemic: Ep No. 559
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwL8EfOt2Ks
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Odd that the MSM covers this…..normally it appears anything that doesnt involve a solution involving a needle is ignored…..
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-03/mega-dose-of-vitamin-c-treats-sepsis-florey-institute-austin/12939202
“A young Australian man who was critically ill with COVID-19 and suffering early stages of sepsis made a remarkable recovery after being given massive doses of vitamin C, according to his doctors.
“Professor Rinaldo Bellomo, director of Intensive Care at Melbourne’s Austin Health, said the 40-year-old’s health had started to deteriorate significantly from COVID-19, with the man losing kidney function, and his blood pressure plummeting.
“Sepsis — a life-threatening condition which occurs when the body damages its own organs while responding to an infection — was starting to take hold of his body and time was running out.
“”We were dealing with somebody who was very unwell. We felt we were in a very difficult situation, and the patient’s life was under serious threat,” he said.
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What next – praising HCQ??!!??
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At last the Greens do something right. It looks like pets will be allowed in rental accommodation in South Australia to make it easier for people with a pet to find it (the accommodation that is). This news was tucked away on page 18 of Thursday’s Advertiser. I’m pleased with that because I rent and will now be able to pet-sit for my family if necessary. It won’t become law until next year.
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Thats funny.
A dog has the same carbon (sic) footprint of a SUV.
(‘oogle “time to eat the pets”via bbc for the science)
Those greens are as consistent as custard.
Fwiw, I think it is cruel locking a dog up in a unit all day.
It needs outside.
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For most readers on here this will be very good news re the US elections
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/634c502372e02ace9695001a232c9703ee5d233fb6085388f65e64a9fbd10882.png
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William Dawes was Australia’s first meteorologist and did a terrific scientific job until the Governor sent him packing. His data shows that Observatory Hill is enjoying the same climate today, nothing has change much in 230 years.
https://saltbushclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/comparison-of-first-fleet-and-modern-temperatures.pdf
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There has been some chatter that Planet 9 fits the Gleissberg Cycle.
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The Gleissberg cycle can be traced back to the dawn of civilisation.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228709466_Persistence_of_the_Gleissberg_88-year_solar_cycle_over_the_last_12000_years_Evidence_from_cosmogenic_isotopes
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