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2.7 million votes switched and hints Dominion Whistleblowers came forward?

Is that mood shift I see?

Suddenly the Trump team is ramping up the claims and the confidence. Donald Trump has declared  that 2.7 million votes were switched by Dominion electronic machines and Rudy Guliani has hinted that there are whistleblowers coming forward from Dominion. If so, that changes everything. But at this stage, they are just hints.

 EverylegalVote now tallies Trump at 232, Biden at 214

North Carolina has been added to the Trump Tally.

Huge claims being made about massive electronic voter fraud.

@Donald Trump: “REPORT: Dominion deleted 2.7 million Trump Votes nationwide. Data analysis finds 221,000 Pennsylvania votes switched from President Trump to Biden. 941,000 Trump votes delted. States using Dominion voting systems switched 435,000 votes from Trump to Biden.””

@SidneyPowell: This is massive voter fraud. It is a feature built into the system by the companies that own the machines and software. This was a deliberate attack on our country and the most important of rights held by citizens in our Republic.
@RudyGiuliani:  The evidence of fraud is pouring in at an overwhelming pac’e. This was a massive effort by Crooked Democrats to wipe out the vote of those they believe are inferior to them….DEPLORABLES , CHUMPS.

@Donald J Trump Jnr:   I guess Stalin was right… it’s who counts the votes that matters.

NaturalNews has most of the links and details related to the claim of 2.7 (now 2.8 million votes being switched or stolen). Also American Thinker.

 

But even the ordinary garden variety counts of fraud are spectacular:

 11,000 reports of election incidents of voter fraud, Meh?

On Sean Hannity’s show, Kayleigh McEnany says she has 234 pages of sworn affidavits from just one country — Wayne County, Michigan — alleging that in one batch of ballots 60% had the same signature, 35 ballots had no voter record but they were counted anyway,  and 50 ballots were run multiple times through the voting machines. All this in a county where Republican observers were barred from access, and Democrat challengers were handing out training documents on how to distract GOP challengers…

See the video in the Tweet

 

It’s just a Glitch, another electronic switch?

@Geo Check  has a 43 second video on election day where the vote tally swaps 19,958 up for Biden and 19,958 down for Trump. The announcer doesn’t notice and keeps calling the race for Trump … Little did he know.

It’s worth listening to the 43 seconds just to be reminded of what it was like on the last day in the West when people still thought elections were decided by voters.

 

Pennsylvania Vote Swap, 20,000 votes flip on TV.

Pennsylvania Vote Swap, 19,958 votes flip on TV.

Claim: Dominion Electronic Voting machines can change the ballot later

Georgia is counting the paper votes by hand. But even then, the Dominion voting machines may already have compromised that count too. Does a paper ballot printed by a Dominion machine mean anything at all? Georgia has more Dominion machines than anywhere else.

Professor Andrew Appel, an election security expert explains  “The image cast evolution (ICE) voting machine has the physical ability to to mark votes onto the Ballot AFTER the last time the voter sees the ballot and that’s a DISASTER”. The machine both marks the ballot and then scans it.

“If the machine is hacked, they can install softwere that marks votes on the ballot after the last time the voter see’s it,… the whole paper trail can be compromised.

Watch the video here.

There’s a lot of Dominion voting machines out there:

Dominion Voting Machines, MAP USA.
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188 comments to 2.7 million votes switched and hints Dominion Whistleblowers came forward?

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    Phillip Bratby

    I am 100% convinced there has been massive voter fraud by the Democrats. But you wouldn’t know any of this fraud had been going on if you only got your “facts” from the MSM, such as the BBC, facebook, google etc.

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      Ross

      Look this is just getting silly. Trump lost the vote. It happens.

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        Indeed Phillip. It’s comic watching SBS and ABC news. Like a different world. The declarations of “the 100% absolute most secure election Ever” smack of desperation. Reminds me of Baghdad Bob as the tanks roll in.

        There’s no attempt by the “journalists” to discuss the claims in detail just to let the gaslit victims know that there are a few “wild debunked claims” around. Watchers get no tools to use in a conversation. They will be blindsided by those who have hunted online for details every time.

        Double or nothing?

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          OriginalSteve

          Interesting that these voting machines seem to be concentrated in the important states to be won.

          Intestingly, it appears Dominion may own the other voting machine company ESS, thats effectively a monopoly?

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            Graham Richards

            Who are the shareholders in Dominion or shareholders in companies that own large blocks of shares in Dominion. An investigation into this aspect will certainly send many to claim privacy laws are being trampled. I wonder how many members or supporters of the Democrats are financially involved. More interesting would be identifying Democrat officials! The truth will “out” regardless of the efforts of Big Tech (an obvious suspect) or the MSM!

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          Ross

          I should add, accusations are NOT proof of anything.
          Proof.

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            No one said they were. You can’t prove Biden was legally elected yet either, though you seem to feel it’s your call, not the Supreme Court or State legislatures. This is an inane interruption to hijack the thread at #1.1.1.1. Demanding proof while Trumps team investigate 11,000 incidents with hundreds of sworn affidavits is self evidently ridiculous.

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              this is a problem isn’t it as this logic makes it impossible to do anything without the need for proof.

              I drove to the shops. Prove it.

              how do you prove that something is legal except to show the systems and procedures in place to stop fraud.

              How do you prove that republicans didn’t cheat?

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                David Wojick

                Negative existentials are often very hard to prove. I can easily prove there is a mouse in the house by catching one. To prove there is no mouse I would have to surround the house with a mouse proof barrier then carefully tear the house down into mouse sized pieces. Even then I might have missed it in the rubble.

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                and so it is hard to prove “no election fraud”

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                David Wojick

                Yes, it is impossible to prove no fraud. This does no mean that there is fraud. It just means we do not know. I do not know if there is a mouse in my house at this moment or not.

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              Ross

              I can’t prove Biden was legally elected? How did Trump end up in the White House Jo? Join the dots.

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                Electoral college voted for him Ross. They haven’t done that for Biden. Join the dots eh?

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                Gee aye

                So prove he didn’t get there via fraudulent votes

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                Gnrnr

                Based on current it is easier to prove he got there despite fraudulent votes. I still find it amusing that almost without fail every single error that has been found/admitted to so far has benefitted Biden or democrats. Still nothing to see here.

                They have evidence of at least 2 errors with the dominion software with 6,000 votes being transferred from Trump to Biden in a county with only ~18,000 voters. It is a strongly republican county and that was the only reason they picked it up. That pickup changed the results of another part of the election where a guy had conceded and due to the “glitch” he actually had won by 1,000 votes after they manually recounted. The second error found was 2,500 votes switched from Trump to Biden.

                Errors happen, people are human, steps need to be taken to close out the potential for fiddling with the results. But hey we have a MSM that even committed a federal crime by calling for people (democrats) to move to Georgia to influence the rerun election for the senators to be held there.

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                Duker

                Its not evidence that 6000 votes were transferred. Someone has made a claim because of a software error- in tallying precinct results in Antrim County Michigan
                “Antrim County uses the Dominion Voting Systems election management system and voting
                machines (tabulators), which count hand-marked paper ballots.”

                Hand marked paper ballots!
                The manual checks on the ‘systems’ found the error which is a reliably republican county anyway. ( Trump 24% lead) They wouldnt want to be duped would they.

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              Duker

              Its the Board of Elections for each county in Pennsylvania that certifies the county result. By law they have to do a statistical sample recount.
              Trumps legal team seem to have dropped any legal action over fraud and seem to instead focus of a narrow area relating to ‘cured’ ballots that were ‘assessed’ before election day ( which isnt against state law) The state allows around 10 days for cured ballots to be returned. These are tiny numbers anyway and cant overcome a 65,000 lead for Biden.

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          George McFly......I'm your density

          Jo, many thanks for keeping us updated on these matters.

          The mainstream media seems to have missed some of this inconsequential news!

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          The Democrats choose to keep every possible method for ballot cheating and lax security. I rest my case.

          PS: With obscene censorship banning most outlets from even discussing possible fraud, it is my duty to keep publishing every reasonable allegation that I can. The burden of proof on me is only that something is worth discussing. Your duty is to point out the flaws. So far your score is 0.

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            porter314

            LOL …. a comedian skeptic … who knew.

            First I am not a Democrat. I am a liberal, unaffiliated to any party or ideology (unlike well known skeptics who are Trump supporters … is that even possible???).

            So what method of balloting would you propose? For purposes of security, I propose lining everyone up, forcing them to vote, and after they vote chop their hands off. How’s that for security? You may say at this point, I am being hyperbolic and you are correct. My comment is to make a point. So your case is not rested. Which methods of voting cause you to object? My guess based on your comments is every method for which Mr Trump objects i.e. any method for which someone voted for someone other than Mr Trump … I guess. But I am curious why you as a skeptic would think only Democrats would want voting methods which are prone to a delusional belief there is rampant voter fraud. I have read every study done on fraud and have as yet to find anyone who has found rampant voter fraud, including ultra right wing people like Heritage. Help me understand your skepticism.

            “Reasonable allegation” …. LOLROFLMAO. Look … skeptic, I have read almost everything I can on all these “reasonable allegations” and guess what … nothing … nada … zilch …

            What you think are reasonable allegations are the spaghetti of delusional minds. You say I have not pointed out the flaws. So which nonsensical allegation should I start with …
            1. postal worker claiming to overhear supervisor telling worker to backdate ballots … thus character even was paid by a gofundme and signed an affidavit and then when questioned by Postal IG he recanted
            2. Dead people voting in GA. Until someone actually found all those walking dead folks and informed them they were dead.
            3. Nevada list of out of state voters. Turned out they were military who were out of state.
            4. I saw a van affidavit. And what happened …. I dunno … but I know there had to have been voter fraud involved.
            5. Not one but several judges ask …. is this about voter fraud and the answer is always no

            so how many “reasonable allegations” do you need to see to realize, there is something going here and it ain’t voter fraud ….

            so I really find this interesting when one attorney says she has the mathematical proof …. mathematical proof …. I have to say that again …. mathematical proof of voter fraud. I had to find this as a trained mathematician, I had to know how a statistical analysis (I was guessing at that point) could uncover fraudulent votes. Well I researched it and found what she was talking about. Turns out she does not understand the statistical analysis. Anomalies in the data does not imply fraud. Anomalies is not proof of anything.

            What you believe as performing your function as providing topics of discussion is a thinly veiled attempt to encourage people who are so delusional they are need of anything which will confirm their belief. The reason MSM does not publish this kind of garbage is they investigate and do not find anything, not because it is banned …. why don’t you know that???

            BTW, I do not love PE Biden and the only dishonesty I see is Mr Trump trying to subvert an election. As a skeptic why haven’t you introduced the topic of Mr Trump pressuring state legislators, state election canvassers, and threatening courts to overturn and disenfranchise votes?

            I have been a long time consumer of right wing media and one of the favorite tactics to appeal to your audience to portray yourself as a skeptic. The reality is you are an enabler of right wing paranoia.

            I am a skeptic but I am also curious, as I look for the truth. The Trump, overturn the election, legal team has essentially presented only one piece of “evidence” and it is the only “reasonable allegation” in political space … Mr Trump could not have lost the election. But of course you may not be interested in the truth or at least that is my conclusion based on what you have typed.

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            “reasonable allegations” – 0

            [Sock puppet.]ED


            [Correction: Verbose sock puppet]ED

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              People are only “recanting” after they get threats and intimidation. The postal worker has been stood down without pay. How many other allegations would be made if people didn’t think their jobs or lives were on the line. None of the whistleblowers is supported, encouraged to speak. If Biden got that many votes why are the Dems so afraid of proper auditing and recounts. Why are they so scared of whistleblowers.

              Your method of figuring out the truth betrays you as a classic leftie. Always seeking an authorities opinion, never assessing it for yourself, and unable to understand maths.

              Good luck in your career pretending to understand the right and real skeptics.

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              correct and verbose though which is refreshing

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        Curious George

        “Trump lost the vote. It happens.” Quite possible.
        – I am bewildered. My grandpa, a lifelong Republican, voted for Biden.
        – Calm down. He would never have done it while alive.

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        GD

        Silly?

        It’s funny that he had won the vote until midnight at close of voting.

        Then suddenly 100,000s of votes exclusively for Biden were trucked in.

        Funny that.

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      Tim C

      then why didn’t they change the senate vote??????????????????

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        Possibly overconfidence — fed by the usual ridiculous polls. Perhaps they didn’t expect a real Red Wave, they took their eye off the ball, and had to scramble to undo the big leads Trump got which they didn’t expect.
        In the rush they had one main target — Trump.

        But if they get away with this and no one important goes to jail, and the election management is just as loose and vulnerable to exploitation, then say hello to a Blue Wave and complete control in 2024.

        There is still Georgia in January…

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          bobl

          I agree it takes quite a bit of effort to implement this level of fraud it’s hard to do for the presidential election for one vote. It’s another thing to do for multiple elections of house and senate.

          I’m not so sure that Trump is actually trying to win, I think this is more likely his strategy to clean up the swamp and get electoral change for 2024. He has many whistleblowers of voter fraud, exclusion of scrutineers, dead people voting, votes accepted in contravention of the state law, voting machine failures, counting system failures ( the tv clip having counts go backward) and so on.

          Trump can use this to get these flaws fixed so future elections can be free and fair. It’s clear that having partisan state governments run federal elections is a basic issue, each US state needs the sort of electoral Commission that we have in Australia, here we almost universally accept the actual count, we have voter id, we don’t use voting machines, although we can use mark sense readers to count votes but because the voter marks the ballot we get an unchallengable audit trail. We have scrutineers built into the system, electoral rolls are cleansed of dead people immediately prior to each election, no unsolicited mail voting and because we have compulsory voting the electoral Commission can detect votes exceeding population. We can legally rerun an election by a bye election in the event of an inconclusive result. Finally under our law you can go to gaol for a year for each count of multiple voting whether in your own name or voting for another -say a dead person.

          Even here we have state governments play with electoral law around donations, and the actual system of voting – for example QLD Labor changed the electoral system from optional preferential voting to full preferential voting to harvest more preferences from voters voting independent that would have omitted them from preferences because they believed that preventing voters from saying “I don’t want my vote to go to this candidate” would favour them.

          Even we need more of our election rules devolved to independent bodies, and eg. publically funded elections. We are not perfect and The US is far, far behind our level of election security so where does it put them.

          US elections are inherently not free and fair because their constitution largely prevents that but if Trump wins his cases he could for example get rid of voting machines, get better scrutiny laws, get voter roll cleansing processes set into law, get voter id, get only solicited mail voting, get ambiguous result election reruns (bye elections) legislated at the state level and get stiff penalties for electoral fraudsters. If this was done they could get almost the same confidence in results we get here.

          The biggie I think are bye elections, and stiff penalties for fraudsters, there is no point to interfering when an ambiguous result can simply be rerun, and you can go to gaol for 100 years if you multiply vote 100 times, cheating becomes too risky a personal or political strategy. Do you really think dominion machines would flip votes if the CEO could go to gaol for 433000 years?

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            RossP

            Disagree on Trump not trying to win. I think he is fighting as hard as he can to win, so he can exactly what you say –to get flaws fixed so free and fair elections can take place.

            If he does not win this fight the Democrats will cheat again in the upcoming Georgia Senate seats –that will give them full control –the House, the Senate and the President. Then there is absolutely no way there will be election reforms.

            In the last 6-8 months the Democrats have pushed for about 340 law changes in the individual States which would all benefit their plan be able to manipulate elections.

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              bobl

              You may be right but it does seem he is targetting electoral reform more than a win. He’s a strategic player though, for sure.

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                RossP

                Agree bobl that the rhetoric is that way especially when he talks about up holding the Constitution. As well as being good politics, I think he sincerely believes that.

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            @bobl: yes mostly correct about Oz. On the other hand, there has been at least one incident up here in Townsville in recent years where an election was swung by activities during a “power cut” at a polling station. Can’t say when and where, as the offence is not yet ‘out of time’, and exposure would identify the witnesses, who would certainly need witness protection and might not get it in time. I doubt this was an isolated incident.

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            Richard Jenkins

            We are not as crooked as USA. but we are cheated. Vote early vote often happens here. Hewson probably beat Keating. I have never been asked for ID in 60 years. When your name is used twice we have no way of proving which one if either are genuine. This is impossible to police as we can not be charged for having our name abused. Dead people vote here. Preverential compulsary voting would be democratic if how to vote was illegal except for vote 1. Parties, political banners and intimination should be illegal at polling booths. Minor issues can be expressed on the way to major parties winning with a preferential vote. Without how to vote cards many votes of illinformed would become informal and that is good. A brief radio news report months after Keating’s appointment told of AEC commenting on the number of improper votes. That item vanished or was censored. It was high and by my calculatons then spread across close seats would have changed the result. The WST was a major issue. It was a disgraceful hidden tax. A birthday cake was used and Hewson brilliantly explained the stupidity of WST with this prop that journalists supplied. Had it been an ALP policy and Keating been questioned and answered exactly as Hewson did it would be regarded as an outstanding response. Our media is incompetent. Richardson said after the result,”of course we lied but we won didn’t we!” Australians beware. I phoned ALL the current affairs channels and requested that when they questioned the man in the street about GST vs WST they first ask a question or two about the WST to indicate if the response had any cerdibility. They ALL said they did not have any body who knew anything about the WST. They still protected it. A simple question would be, “On your supermarket bill do you know how much WST you paid and how do you know?” Socialism thrives on ignorance.

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              I’ve been told that in Australia they don’t even investigate if someone votes “less than ten times”. After all, with no ID and no records of who came and went there is almost no chance of catching someone who pretends to be someone else and just gets their name and address correct — something anyone with a phone book could do.

              In the 2013 election a whole ballot box of votes went missing. To make up for that apparently we couldn’t just ask the people who voted at that site to vote again (even though we had their names and addresses). We had to run the whole senate vote again for WA.

              The Sports Party engineer who won the first round lost the second and the Greens got another senator.

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            Hivemind

            One of the main differences with the Australian Electoral Commission, is that EC staff aren’t allowed to be party members. In photos from Pennsylvania & other American places, you can actually see partisan Democrats counting votes.

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          David Wojick

          For President one hack works for all machines. For Senate each State is different. House requires district level differences. So Pres is far more doable. Plus the feeling was that Pres was all important, false but widespread.

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          Deplorable Lord Kek

          there is a limit to the fraud that can go unnoticed – about 3% – so usually they would not go more than that, but it is enough to swing close races.

          if someone wins in a huge red wave then there is a correlative amount of massive voter fraud required to bury it.

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          Mike Jonas

          I suspect that Donald Trump still has an uphill battle proving fraud. Hope I’m wrong. Life is pretty miserable in Australia now that “everyone” thinks Joe Biden has won. I’m shouted down for saying that Donald Trump is entitled to his day in court.

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            Ian

            “Life is pretty miserable in Australia now that “everyone” thinks Joe Biden has won.”

            I’m not.

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            Graham Richards

            You’re obviously keeping bad company!

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            Meglort

            The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

            And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

            (Thessalonians 2:2, 9-12)

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          Stephen Legge

          Totally agree with you Ross, its called…. “Dem-oc-racy”
          …sometimes a fraud like Trump will win …sometimes, after enough people realise the Emperor is, in fact, naked….
          Trump LOSES (BOTH the Popular Vote and Electoral College)….
          suck it up, Princess Trump!

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          Stephen Legge

          Totally agree with you Ross, its called…. “Dem-oc-racy”
          …sometimes a fraud like Trump will win …sometimes, after enough people realise the Emperor is, in fact, naked….
          Trump LOSES (BOTH the Popular Vote and Electoral College)….
          suck it up, Princess Trump!

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        Gbees

        Because literally 100,000’s of votes were not recorded down ballot. The only vote on the ballots was for Biden.

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      tom0mason

      Dominion voting machines used widely in the USA. See here (towards the bottom of the page) for all the states that use these allegedly flaky machines, https://www.dominionvoting.com/about/

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      Morphy

      Of course – the very same Globalists that the Dems represent, these “news” people represent as well.

      UK Brexit, Trump, and others, they represent anti-Globalism, the freedom of nations and people from tyranny.

      Now that Biden has won, the US is headed into totalitarianism (he’s even promised to fill civil service with Muslims, FFS).

      Dems mean “equality of outcome” – that has only one logical end point, a totalitarian state; Globalism.

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      Aussie Ute

      A serious concern that the AEC is considering this highly suspect mob to access our electoral system to scam it as well
      Be alarmed and alert

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      Dave Ward

      But you wouldn’t know any of this fraud had been going on if you only got your “facts” from the MSM

      Indeed, Philip. Today’s Mail keeps the “False News” (i.e. any anti Biden winning stories) narrative going, and says that Trump has (effectively) admitted defeat.

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    David Maddison

    They are right. This is an attack against the United States. It is an attempted coup and an act of war. If the unthinkable happens it will be an actual coup.

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    Kalm Keith

    I was a bit down in the dumps earlier today and now this.

    Whether Trump can come through is one thing, but having the extent of voting “interference” laid out in such detail is something else again.

    The stench of anti Trump activity won’t disappear after the election is called: it will be a major focus for some time.

    Democracy in action.

    KK

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      “… it will be a major focus for some time.”

      In my discussions with people on the hate train, an apparent Biden win emboldens them to hate even more. When you call them on how prejudicial hate drove the election, mention some of the truths they’ve been shielded from and/or point out the unethical behavior of big data, Democratic leaders and the Obama administration, their predictable response is anger projecting their hate on the messenger.

      The hateful rhetoric originated from the Progressive Socialists (calling them Democrats is an insult to freedom), and it has spread like a virus through the Democratic party. I don’t hate, but pity the many people on the left who have been victimized by a propaganda machine that has poisoned their minds, perhaps even beyond redemption. It’s unfortunate that the country has to suffer as a result.

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      GD

      I was a bit down in the dumps earlier today

      I’ve been feeling the same. I never imagined a political outcome whether national or international could upset me.

      Instead, I have been feeling seriously depressed about the lack of a definitive win for Trump.

      It’s as if all hope has been sucked out of the conservative cause.

      I realise I’m sounding like those screaming banshees who screamed because Hillary didn’t win, but, unfortunately, with the internet, politics has become more public and all-invasive in our lives.

      Well, for some of us, anyway.

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        GD, the only people who are not profoundly unsettled by what’s going on are those who don’t know about it and those who don’t know history.

        11 days ago we had no idea the US was effectively “a third world country” for elections.

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          Boris

          Many of us have been paying attention a lot longer than 11 days ago and saw the signs of banana republic way back then.

          But I agree, it might wake up those who are still sleeping.

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          Dave Ward

          The only people who are not profoundly unsettled by what’s going on are those who don’t know about it and those who don’t know history

          You’re forgetting all the Democrats who DO know their history and understand what’s going on. Why would they be unsettled? They have absolutely no scruples, and the most to gain. If Biden gets into the White House, socialists everywhere else will be emboldened to carry out yet more destruction of our freedoms…

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      Kalm Keith

      Down in the dumps because Trump was symbolic in the push to fix big government.

      Watching the collapse of Europe, the occupation and destruction of Britain, the expansion of China through the world and the South China sea blockades, the elimination of Australian industry and dilution of former academic excellence in universities: I was hoping for a Turning Point with the reelection of Trump.

      Now, I feel a bit better because it’s becoming apparent that even if he loses, there has been incredible exposure of the ugliness of the swamp creatures, and this will be a point of focus for those who have been done wrong by.

      I hope the world recovers and turfs out those who are only in politics for themselves.

      KK

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        Boris

        This war on humanity, kk has been waged for a long time now and it has been largely prosecuted behind the scenes by a cabal who have collaborators.

        Non malicious thinking people have been deceived to believe it’s not as bad as it could be because the enemy was slow and the media gave it cover. Anyone who pointed out that a war was being waged
        Was ridiculed and ostracised so it slowly kept advancing.

        Our cheif handicap is that we are not permitted to call/name it for what it is, war.

        It’s not just selfish treasonous politicians but the money-power who can bank roll all the scams and bribery and blackmail that goes on behind the scenes.

        I have the sense you know all this but hopefully the naive will lose the scales from their eyes.

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    John R Smith

    The scary thing is that most of left is not hearing about this.
    If DJT’s counter offensive works they will be blind sided.
    The ‘mostly peaceful’ violence will be off the charts.
    The Legacy Media (duly corrected from MSM by Jonova commenter) will be entirely responsible, and blame Trump and his supporters for not surrendering.
    Yes, following a legal pathway and calmly questioning conclusions makes us the baddies.
    Deniers!
    (the cool thing is though, a Biden Presidency stops pandemics)

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    Jojodogfacedboy

    This is up to 38 million votes were tranfered…wow no wonder they got caught.
    https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/voting-software-company-whistleblowers-come-forward-claim-their-software-changed-38-million-votes-stole-election

    And the media here is all in Biden elect with more at 290 fiction votes.
    He is actually down to 212 in the real college count.

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      Is that believable? That would be 50% of the Biden votes? No decimal points missing there…?

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        Jojodogfacedboy

        I think his big announcement coming up is the he has won this election in a landslide.
        Looks like they reversed the votes.
        https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/general-flynn-retweets-update-showing-president-trump-still-track-crush-biden-electoral-college-votes/

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        RossP

        Yes it says 3.8 million. Totally believable.

        I think if everything was done fairly and accurately Trump would have won the popular vote by 5-10 million. Also the percentage of the various groups of minority vote support would have been higher.

        There are some saying California, because it is so strongly Democratic does not come under enough scrutiny. They are suggesting Republican support is much higher than the figures show.

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        Ian

        As far as I can see any comment, however far fetched and however unbelievable, that gives Trump a win in this election is regarded as gospel truth by many

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          wal1957

          Not at all. Questions have been raised as to authenticity.
          Have you not read Jo’s post? We often disagree on this blog or treat with suspicion some posts /claims.

          I take it you believed ‘as gospel’ everything Russia, Russia, Russia?
          Get out of your little bubble.

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            Ian

            you mat y find this of interest as it is quite recent

            In Arizona on Friday, Trump’s campaign dropped a legal challenge of a number of ballots in Maricopa County, saying Biden’s overall lead in the state is too large for the disputed ballots to make a difference.
            The move came a day after NBC News and other media outlets projected that Biden will win the state’s popular vote.

            In Michigan, where Biden last week was projected as the winner, a judge declined a request by Trump backers to block the certification of election results in Detroit.

            And in Pennsylvania, Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar said she has determined not to order a recount and a recanvass of the election return in 67 counties.

            For a recount to be ordered, Trump would have to be losing by less than .5% of the votes cast.

            But Biden’s lead over Trump was 49.8% to Trump’s 48.9%, or more than 60,000 votes, as of Friday afternoon in the Keystone State, which has 20 Electoral votes.

            And as for “Russia, Russia, Russia” perhaps you missed this which was published in August 2020:

            The U.S. intelligence community’s conclusion that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help elect Donald Trump was accurate and based on strongly sourced information and sound analytical judgment, a bipartisan Senate report has concluded.

            REPORT OF THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE UNITED STATES SENATEON
            RUSSIAN ACTIVE MEASURES CAMPAIGNS AND INTERFERENCE IN THE 2016 U.S. ELECTION

            The Committee found that the Russian government engaged in an aggressive, multi- faceted effort to influence, or attempt to influence, the outcome ofthe 2016 presidential election. Parts ofthis effort are outlined in the Committee’s earlier volumes on election security, social media, the Obama Administration’s response to the threat, and the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA).
            (U) The fifth and final volume focuses on the counterintelligence threat, outlining a wide range of Russian efforts to influence the Trump Campaign and the 2016 election. In this volume the Committee lays out its findings in detail by looking at many aspects ofthe counterintelligence threat posed by the Russian influence operation. For example, the Committee examined Paul Manafort’s connections to Russian influence actors and the FBI’s treatment of reporting produced by Christopher Steele. While the Committee does not describe the final result as a complete picture, this volume provides the most comprehensive description to date of Russia’s activities and the threat they posed. This volume presents this information in topical sections in order to address coherently and in detail the wide variety o f Russian actions. The events explained in these sections in many cases overlap, and references in each section will direct the reader to those overlapping parts ofthe volume. Immediately below is a summary of key findings from several sections.

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              Serp

              I find it increasingly curious that nobody mentions the PRC as having influenced the election; no nation stands to gain more from the removal of Trump.

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    Jim

    Now, show the proof. Not just one page of a book. And do something about it. Democrats have fought for fair elections. Republicans, conservatives, and tea partiers here, have spread falsehoods, used magical deception to feed falsehoods, impinged character, and outright lied to the public, the voting public to achieve a goal. So far, the only case of implied fraud I’d in florida, where a unreal name was added to a ballot to dilute the votes.
    Ah, control of machines? That count votes, no, it’s software, and, each companies software is not open source in america. A problem. It’s non veritable. The only way to know there is a problem, is if you created the problem. Even the readouts depend on the software. And, there is a problem, in the programming, if it is not open source? Who can tell of a problem?

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      eilert

      The proof will be shown and many on this planet are not going to like it.

      This was a massive fraud at scale unimaginable and was caught by a sting and involves companies like Dominion who supply, store, tabulate electronic and data services for elections around the world (with software that is easily hackable).
      Dominion is in fact a Canadian company, in fact it really is a shell company. The real company behind this is SmartMatic (Soros controlled joint), which is based in Barcelona Spain and according the Election Fraud Video has the server in Frankfurt.

      This is outlined in this video of an analysis of the election data of the Dallas Texas county in the 2018 midterm elections:

      This is so brazen that is done in front of our eyes, while the CNN was broadcasting the results:
      Here is the youtube clip set of the time were this is shown: https://youtu.be/4h0pfQZcjjk?t=469
      The whole Election Fraud video can be found here: https://youtu.be/4h0pfQZcjjk?t=469

      This is Rudi Guliani talking about this yesterday:
      #Breaking – Listen to America’s Mayor @RudyGiuliani
      explain how the software used to count votes for the Presidential Election could’ve been manipulated by a foreign country.
      https://twitter.com/77WABCradio/status/1327005658143657984

      This same company is also involved with elections in Australia:
      https://twitter.com/awakeinaus_/status/1326983003789123584

      Secretary of State Pompeo did not make a joke “That there will be a smooth transition to the second Trump Administration”
      He meant it and all the co-conspirators are going to jail.

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        tom0mason

        From https://heavy.com/news/dominion-voting-systems-glitch-clinton-pelosi-michigan-georgia/

        Smartmatic’s chairman is a member of the British House of Lords, Mark Malloch Brown, a former vice-chairman of George Soros’ Investment Funds, former vice-president at the World Bank, lead international partner at Sawyer Miller, a political consulting firm, and former vice-chair of the World Economic Forum.

        The Associated Press previously debunked false rumors saying that Soros owns Smartmatic voting machines. He does not, says AP. According to the AP, “the chairman of SmartMatics and the SGO Group, Mark Malloch-Brown, serves on the Open Society Foundations Global Board — founded by George Soros.” Smartmatic has previously had some involvement in U.S. elections, according to AP.

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      bobl

      Proof isn’t actually required, in elections ambiguity should be sufficient to trigger a rerun as it would do here through the disputed returns process.

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    David Wojick

    This could actually do it! Nor are the Courts required. If a State cannot certify its electors based on votes then the Legislature decides who they vote for. The majority of States have Republican legislatures.

    Very interesting times.

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    Fuel Filter

    First big win for the Team Trump Attorneys in Pennsylvania!

    This is a BIG DEAL! This issue is now going to the SCOTUS with a clear majority of 5-4 conservatives on the court (assuming Roberts doesn’t screw us once again)
    *****
    Pennsylvania Court Countermands PA Secretary of State’s Lawless Decree Extending the Deadline to “Cure” Defective Ballots!

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/391253.php

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    Below is the link to the US News & World Report fact check on the “2.7 million vote switch” lie. The claim tweeted by Trump traces to an anonymous blog-post on a pro-Trump blog. The anonymous author quotes a non-existent report from Edison Research. A lot of people are expending a lot of credibility swallowing and regurgitating this bunk.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2020-11-12/ap-fact-check-trump-tweets-a-tall-tale-of-deleted-votes

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      David Wojick

      We are not big fans of left wing fact checks. They have zero credibility. Less than zero.

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        David Wojick

        Did some digging. The AP “fact check” says this: “The anonymous commenter who posted the theory claimed the findings are supported by data from the polling firm Edison Research. Yet the company has not produced such a report, said Larry Rosin, the president of Edison Research.”

        The findings are based on the raw voting data available from Edison, a trusted source. Not an Edison report, real raw data. I looked at some.

        Thus the “fact check” statement is pure spin. Did Edison fail to clarify this damning fact or did AP hide it?

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    Fuel Filter

    For all here; for your consideration…
    **********

    Too implausible for fiction

    Bestselling novelist Larry Correia, who knows fiction when he sees it, asked a number of professional auditors about the plausibility of the statistical evidence for the media-projected results of the U.S. presidential election:

    {quote by expert begins}

    I noticed yesterday that I was having lots of strangers show up to scream at me whenever I posted any information about election fraud, but they were all low information types just barfing up “fact checks” which was basically whatever the news had just told them, but none of them had the basic knowledge of how fraud works to even sorta discuss any of the actual data. So I got curious and posted the following on facebook:

    One quick question, only answer if you have worked in auditing/stats/fraud/investigations/or other data analysis type fields. In your entire career, have you ever seen a case that threw up this many flags that DID NOT turn out to be fraud?

    Again, flags are not proof. They are merely anomalies which would cause an auditor to check. Nor am I claiming this is a scientific poll (though I’d bet I’m still more accurate than Nate Silver!). There is of course a sampling bias as I know many of these people in meat space (and their resumes on this topic are killer) but it was also open to the public so anyone could comment and it got shared a hundred times.
    The consensus thus far is overwhelming. No. Not only no but hell no.

    Certified Fraud Examiner since 1992 here. I have never seen such an oversupply of red flags. 3 or 4 might be explicable or coincidence, but dozens all pointing the same way? This would be too implausible for fiction, let alone a case study.
    No. In fact I would say that in about 34 years of this work it is my professional opinion that at this level it is mathematically more likely that our sun blinks out of existence as a result of every particle in it spontaneously “blinking” into another state than it is that fraud did not take place on the order of millions of votes.

    {quote by expert ends}

    Epstein didn’t kill himself. Biden didn’t win. And Q says it had to be this way.

    How do you ‘show’ the public the truth?
    How do you ‘safeguard’ US elections post-POTUS?
    How do you ‘remove’ foreign interference and corruption and install US-owned voter ID law(s) and other safeguards? 
    It had to be this way.
    Sometimes you must walk through the darkness before you see the light. 

    This tends to confirm my hypothesis that President Trump was so confident of his reelection that he was willing to appear to put his second term at risk in order to secure free and fair elections in 2024 and beyond. After all, what is the point of winning a second term if the Swamp is simply going to undo everything you have accomplished. This would also explain the need to wait for the second term to drain the Swamp; the only way to systematically excise the full extent of the fraud was to expose it to everyone.

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      Yonason

      Good comment overall, but your complaint that Trump should have done more to drain the swamp sooner doesn’t have traction. He had a full plate (most of which were even more important, like the economy and employment), he did begin the long slow process, and will continue in his second term despite the interference that Dems ALWAYS indulge in.

      Thanks for that excellent link, btw.

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        Fuel Filter

        Not my complaint. If you follow the link you’ll see that’s a direct quote from the blog.

        And, FWIW, I agree wholeheartedly with you.

        Trump does indeed need four more years. (Too bad he can’t pull an FDR…)

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    Fuel Filter

    Excellent short blog post by an everyday American…

    An excerpt:
    *****
    What pissed people off most about communist socialism was the way they casually wasted your time, which is the stuff your LIFE is made of, standing in line, and various other Kafka-esque daily petty insults. Because you, the individual, had no intrinsic value to TPTB.

    Whereas our own tradition is to send 10,000 people to search for one lost hiker or boater, because in our worldview, and the way we live our lives, every individual matters.

    When Edmund Blackadder complains “We are like the private parts of the gods; they toy with us for their own amusement…” it’s funny, because we all have the feeling that Life, the Universe, and Fate bitchslap us around for their own ends, and we are just a bunch of Barbie dolls in their effort. Whether by malicious design or sheer happenstance. We laugh, because we can’t see behind the curtain, and it’s just venting.

    But when the same thing happens from mere mortals, whom we can see doing it, because they think they can, and are entitled to do it, it rankles the hell out of us.

    And that’s exactly what Leftardia has done with this attempted (so far) election theft: they have decided that we – every man Jack of us – are merely their private pawns, useful only for their amusement in their unending quest for ultimate power over every aspect of our lives, and over every living soul.
    *****

    RTWT…

    https://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2020/11/how-to-get-what-you-dont-want.html

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    John in NZ

    Is this why Biden wanted people to learn to code?

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    David Wojick

    The usage density in Georgia is disturbing given that control of the Senate hangs there in the balance.

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    Yonason

    It’s time for Dems to stop “accidentally” winning.
    https://i.imgur.com/elZBvyd.png

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    tom0mason

    Sofware ‘glitch’? A view from Tony Heller …

    https://youtu.be/DnzhjfJqSew

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    Mark D.

    I was under the impression that Minnesota also utilized Dominion for their counting machines. I don’t see that on the map here. If it is true that they do use Dominion, then Minnesotans need to rise up and call for an investigation especially over the Senate election results.

    Remember Minnesota for their “nice” which got Al Franken elected. There is dirt everywhere there are Democrats.

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      RossP

      David, that is where most of the of the figures above come from (and the figures in the President’s tweet, I think). The irony is the guys got much of their from the NYT.
      I heard yesterday that there are about 200 IT geeks working with the guy mentioned in the article.

      This is something the Democrats would not have expected –ordinary citizens putting huge time and effort into trying to correct the manipulations. Similar to the spontaneous car and boat rallies to support Trump prior to the election. The same “action from the ordinary citizen” is being displayed by customers leaving Fox News in droves.

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    AZ1971

    Not to nitpick Jo but Wayne County, Michigan is a county, not country.

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    Jojodogfacedboy

    I am dreaming that when charges start coming, that they take Canada’s politicians too. This corruption of government is killing it’s citizens as our politicians don’t care
    Ops sorry…This fake of caring as they create more problems…

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    Ruairi

    Not an election without a hitch,
    If computers developed a glitch,
    That could alter the count,
    By a massive amount,
    In a Trump to Biden voting switch.

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    OriginalSteve

    *happy dance*

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    David Wojick

    Posted this above but am repeating it here for immediacy:

    Did some digging. The AP “fact check” says this: “The anonymous commenter who posted the theory claimed the findings are supported by data from the polling firm Edison Research. Yet the company has not produced such a report, said Larry Rosin, the president of Edison Research.”

    The findings are based on the raw voting data available from Edison, a trusted source. Not an Edison report, real raw data. I looked at some.

    Thus the “fact check” statement is pure spin. Did Edison fail to clarify this damning fact or did AP hide it?

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      Jojodogfacedboy

      Here is General Flynn on the latest Presidential Election Race…

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/general-flynn-retweets-update-showing-president-trump-still-track-crush-biden-electoral-college-votes/

      The media protests too much and says that this is fake news believe us. would we lie to you?

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      David Wojick

      Here are some of the Dominion results, ranked by switches. Some numbers are huge.

      Dominion Voting Systems :
      Pennsylvania : Switched : 220,883 Lost Votes : 941,248
      New Jersey : Switched : 80,242 Lost Votes : 20
      Florida : Switched : 21,422 Lost Votes : 456
      Michigan : Switched : 20,213 Lost Votes : 21,882
      New York : Switched : 18,124 Lost Votes : 623,213
      Georgia : Switched : 17,407 Lost Votes : 33,574
      Ohio : Switched : 14,965 Lost Votes : 5,102
      Virginia : Switched : 12,163 Lost Votes : 789,023
      California : Switched : 7,701 Lost Votes : 10,989
      Arizona : Switched : 4,492 Lost Votes : 0
      Minnesota : Switched : 2,766 Lost Votes : 195,650
      Tennessee : Switched : 2,330 Lost Votes : 0
      Louisiana : Switched : 2,322 Lost Votes : 0

      He/she does all the other voting systems as well.

      Somebody needs to look at this algorithm, figure out what it finds, and whether that is what is claimed. Edison should have done that immediately. Maybe “switched” and “lost” do not really mean that. If they do there is Hell to pay.

      Until then all the left wing reports and “fact checks” are just ignorant denials.

      It is still Friday the 13th here. Maybe for Biden.

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        Maptram

        It’s probably been mentioned already, but in case it hasn’t, the difference between switched and lost votes is that switching has double the effect while loss only affects the losing party.

        Also, is there any evidence that switching and losing votes happened to both Biden and Trump or only Biden.

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          Gnrnr

          Maptram,

          The author of the original work on this has stated he is unable to find any evidence that votes were switched from Biden to Trump. He has posted a link to his raw data from Edison and to his code for doing the analysis. All open source. This was the original article i found on Saturday just doing a simple search on it. Nearly impossible to see now as all the google results for the first few pages take you tot he “fact checks” in the MSM. https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-11-12-trump-bombshell-dominion-software-deleted-votes-switched-biden.html# This report link you to the full original works once at the forum there is a second link in the post there to his latest work.

          Regards

          Gnrnr

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    RossP

    The Chairman of the Federal Election Commission is not holding back. Just think of organisations like this in Australia –would anyone come out saying something like this, even if behind the scenes they believed it. No way and not here in NZ either.

    https://www.wtma.com/news/trey-trainor-to-newsmax-tv-voter-fraud-is-taking-place/

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    Deplorable Lord Kek

    hottest year evah!!!!

    least election fraud evahh!!!

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    David Maddison

    There has been concern about these voting machines for years. No one should say “we didn’t know”. Basic research would have uncovered the problems. Use of machines known to be insecure makes whomever were involved in those decisions complicit in the fraud.

    https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/officials-raised-concerns-for-years-about-security-of-u-s-voting-machines-software-systems/article_bec0fc86-2144-11eb-bc8c-bb85a60db758.html

    (The Center Square) – The Dominion Voting Systems, which has been used in multiple states where fraud has been alleged in the 2020 U.S. Election, was rejected three times by data communications experts from the Texas Secretary of State and Attorney General’s Office for failing to meet basic security standards.

    In January, U.S. lawmakers expressed concern about foreign involvement through these companies’ creation and oversight of U.S. election equipment. Top executives from the three major companies were grilled by both Democratic and Republican members of the U.S. House Committee on House Administration about the integrity of their systems.

    Also in January, election integrity activists expressed concern “about what is known as supply-chain security, the tampering of election equipment during manufacturing,” the Associated Press reported. “A document submitted to North Carolina elections officials by ES&S last year shows, for example, that it has manufacturing operations in the Philippines.”

    The examiners raised specific concerns about whether the system “was suitable for its intended purpose; operates efficiently and accurately; and is safe from fraudulent or unauthorized manipulation.”

    They concluded that Dominion systems and corresponding hardware devices did not meet Texas Election Code certification standards.

    See link for rest.

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    David Maddison

    Lord Mark Malloch-Brown is the Chairman of Smartmatic which is in the businesss of voting machines. It is another supplier of voting machines apart from Dominion.

    From his bio I post below, do you think he’d be more supportive of Trump, or the Presidential Imposter Biden? I think the answer is obvious.

    Also, Smartmatic sued Dominion.
    https://www.smartmatic.com/media/article/smartmatic-international-sues-dominion-voting-systems-for-licensing-breach-and-improper-business-practices/

    Smartmatic also participated in the US 2020 elections.
    https://www.smartmatic.com/case-studies/article/united-states-2005-2020-secure-election-technology-for-the-us/

    Lord Mark Malloch-Brown
    https://www.smartmatic.com/about/our-team/detail/lord-mark-malloch-brown/

    Chairman
    Mark Malloch-Brown is a former number two in the United Nations as well as having served in the British Cabinet and Foreign Office. He now sits in the House of Lords and is active both in business and in the non-profit world. He also remains deeply involved in international affairs.

    Mark served as Deputy Secretary-General and Chief of Staff of the UN under Kofi Annan. For six years before that he was Administrator of the UNDP, leading the UN’s development efforts around the world. He was later Minister of State in the Foreign Office, covering Africa and Asia, and was a member of Gordon Brown’s cabinet.

    Other positions have included vice-chairman of George Soros’s Investment Funds, as well as his Open Society Institute, a Vice-President at the World Bank and the lead international partner at Sawyer Miller, a political consulting firm. He also has served as Vice-Chairman of the World Economic Forum. He began his career as a journalist at The Economist.

    In addition to his role at SGO, Mark sits on several other commercial boards. He chairs the Boards of a number of non-profit boards including the International Crisis Group, the Open Society Foundation, and the Centre for Global Development.

    Mark is also a Distinguished Practitioner of the Blavatnik School of Government at Oxford University and was formerly a visiting distinguished fellow at the Yale Centre for the Study of Globalisation. He has a number of honorary degrees.

    He was knighted in 2007 for his contribution to international affairs. Mark is the author of “The Unfinished Global Revolution” and continues to write, broadcast and lecture about international issues.

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    David Maddison

    Some more about Mark Malloch-Brown from the Penguin web page about his book. Definitely not a Trump supporter…or a believer in freedom, democracy or national governments in general. He’s undoubtedly a globalist.

    The Unfinished Global Revolution -The Limits of Nations and The Pursuit of a New Politics

    Mark Malloch-Brown

    An appeal for global harmony from the former Deputy Secretary-General of the UN

    The Unfinished Global Revolution is a front-line view of the challenges of leadership and the importance of creating greater global cooperation.

    The former United Nations Deputy Secretary-General, Mark Malloch-Brown diagnoses the central global predicament of the 21st century. As we have become more integrated, we have also become less governed. National governments are no longer equipped to address complex global issues. From climate change to poverty, international organizations have not yet been empowered to step into the breach.

    The Unfinished Global Revolution chronicles how over the past few decades, domestic problems – from unemployment to environmental distress – have international roots. Increasingly, ad hoc arrangements between NGOs, civil society and the private sector are filling in the gap created by the failures of individual governments. Malloch-Brown urges us to embrace these evermore powerful international institutions and the values needed to underpin a truly globalist agenda – the rule of law, human rights, and greater opportunity for all. Now is the moment for creative statesmanship to form a new approach to global politics, one that will produce stronger international institutions that revive rather than replace national governments.

    Malloch-Brown has been at the centre of recent world events. Drawing on his experiences at the frontlines of international development – from Cambodia to Darfur, Washington to UN headquarters – Malloch-Brown provides a personal, on-the-ground view of seemingly abstract challenges and forecasts the way forward in global politics. This book should be required reading for all policy makers, politicians and concerned citizens of the world.

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    David Maddison

    I think the only clean and fair way out of this huge mess is for courts to declare the entire election invalid and to invoke the 12th Amendment. As provided by that amendment each state will appoint one “elector” (regardless of state population) and they will vote for the President and VP.

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    David Maddison

    The Left have absolutely no regard for democracy. It makes you wonder how many prior elections in the US, Australia and elsewhere were fraudulently manipulated to favour Leftists.

    Certainly there were many suspicions about the election of the Lord Mayor of London.

    Also in UK.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-37055521

    Authorities are turning a blind eye to electoral corruption in the UK because of a desire for political correctness, a report on the issue has suggested.

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      TIP

      …..”The company’s international headquarters are in Toronto, Canada,”

      Start asking questions Canada – IMO, Trudeau did not deserve re-election.

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        tom0mason

        TIP,
        Apparently (from the few reports I’ve read) the Canadian company is just a shell company. Financing is spread all over the place through many foreign companies (including South Africa and Australia) but control of the election machines is in Spain.
        US votes out to Spain, security and national interest must be an issue. I wonder how many Americans know that their voting is collated off-shore?

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    The map is very scary because it shows a lot of those machines in Georgia where there will be a run-off election for two senate seats. If both seats go democrat then they control the presidency, the house and the senate. Absolute power corrupts absolutely

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    nb

    A useful video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztu5Y5obWPk
    Dr.SHIVA LIVE: MIT PhD Analysis of Michigan Votes Reveals Unfortunate Truth of U.S. Voting Systems. (1hr, 10mins)
    *Summary shown at 41 minutes:*
    ——-
    Algorithm moves Trump votes to Biden
    The more the precinct was Republican, the more % of Trump votes are transferred to Biden in that precinct.
    The slope of the discount to Trump’s votes is the same for each county.
    Wayne County had no algorithm detected.
    ——-
    The discount slope indicates application of an algorithm using the *weighted race allocation method*.
    Weighted race is a documented feature in election systems dating back to 2001.
    The linear decline indicates a computer algorithm was in place to lower Trump’s vote as a function of % of Republicans in a precinct. The linear decline is consistent from one precinct count to another and is predictable.
    The more a precinct supports Republicans the more the results indicate a dislike of Trump.
    The line of decline in Trump’s vote is consistent over hundreds of precincts.
    Hand written ballots are imaged and the computer reads the image to determine the vote. Ballot images are being deleted and this makes it more difficult to verify results.
    56:00 – National Association of State Election Directors (NASED). Nonprofit funded by Murdoch company and Rockefeller brothers. This organization sought to have Twitter ban Shiva.

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    RossP

    The latest is the US military has “raided” the place in Frankfurt, Germany which holds the servers on which at least 28 states have their election data stored. ( It goes to there via a company in Barcelona –wonder why that would be ?)

    All this is going to make a great movie or doco one day.

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    This is how the vote machines work. Watch it to the end. One computer to verify identity, another to input the vote and print out a form, the third tallies the votes.

    Has anyone checked whether the Q code that the machine reads, matches the displayed vote in English?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEWYhRYshK0

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    Matty

    My armchair logic says….

    1. By now the FBI will have had their faces full of the kinds of analyses done by Dr Shiva and others as well as their own.
    2. The Dept of Homeland Security would need to have their heads right across it also to ensure any anomalies weren’t of foreign origin.
    3. If it really is as bad as it smells they have to act.
    4. Is this why the DT legal team are a bit higher in the saddle at the moment.
    5. Has it expanded beyond a looming legal fight into a national security issue?

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    Matty

    And Giuliani hinting that there are indeed foreign actors involved.

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    RossP

    A short 2 minute video showing how insecure these machines are.

    https://twitter.com/13thethe/status/1326709981794754560

    Do they use electronic counting machines in Australia for counting the paper ballots? ( I think the one in the video is a voting machine, something different)

    I’m not sure what happens in NZ and I have never questioned the integrity of our voting system, but I’m not so sure now.

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    Another Ian

    Using the PA Date of Birth dataset, we can see day by day mail returns incredibly correlated across the state, within large counties, across age groups. I’m not sure how you’d get these correlations without a central group drawing from voter records&filling out ballots en masse https://t.co/awwRWQqv40 pic.twitter.com/uSzFZ17Xa5

    — Spotted Toad (@toad_spotted) November 11, 2020″

    And other links

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2020/11/14/margin-of-fraud-19/

    And the “famous word” is in that link – two fingers to WordPress

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    Another Ian

    “this is a problem isn’t it as this logic makes it impossible to do anything without the need for proof.”

    Outside your bubble not impossible, as illustrated by this observation from a friend who would describe something as

    “Seemed a good idea at the time”,

    Either just preceded by or closely followed by

    Full of “piss and bad manners”

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    Tim

    I hope this all turns out. But my concern is: if the PTB are capable of pulling off a fraud of this size and blatancy, then they’re equally capable of preventing any blowback.

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    PeterS

    I’ve moved on. I hope I’m wrong but I’m now expecting a civil war regardless of who ends up as POTUS. So, it’s moot who it is. It will all end in chaos, thanks to the desperate attempts by the left to overthrow Trump from office ever since he was legitimately elected in 2016 to this very day.

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    MattToo

    Funny how they still can’t seem to process Trumps votes correctly – they’ve got to keep whittling them down while allowing Biden to catchup…

    https://i.maga.host/yZg7J2C.png

    I created the graph using the latest data from https://static01.nyt.com/elections-assets/2020/data/api/2020-11-03/race-page/pennsylvania/president.json and graphed it in Tableau.

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    I recently downloaded the data for Pennsylvania from the Edison Research archive:
    https://static01.nyt.com/elections-assets/2020/data/api/2020-11-03/race-page/pennsylvania/president.json
    This is ASCII data but in a binary format. I wrote a code to unpack the time series data into a spreadsheet format (.csv). I would be happy to email it to anyone who is interested. My email is [email protected]. I can also make the code for unpacking the time sequence available.

    The data show LOTS of irregularities. For example, there are several points where as many as 500,000 total votes drop off the map. Were the timestamps not right? Who knows? I did spot the irregularity on 04 Nov at 04:08:51Z where 17900 votes went from Trump’s tally to Biden’s. This is the same event I think that Jo Nova pointed out.

    In light of the considerable irregularities in the record (one annoying thing is that they only give the fractions of the total vote, and only to 3 places) I hesitate to say I’ve found a smoking gun. However, further along in the record the discontinuities go away except for occasional deductions from Trump’s count, and to be honest, a few from Biden’s also.

    Hat tip: American Thinker, 2 writers there made use of the same data base.
    – Jerry

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    frednk

    I must admit I look in every now and again for an education on the arguments used to support a complete disconnect from reality. I find UTUBE videos by the flat earth crowd entertaining as well. I am surprised climate change denial wasn’t wacky enough for you? I suppose I shouldn’t assume you don’t believe the earth is flat.

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    Another Ian

    Around this area

    “Delingpole: Only Donald Trump Can Save Us from the Great Reset”

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/01/delingpole-only-donald-trump-can-save-us-from-the-great-reset/

    Via SDA

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    Another Ian

    Maybe the Democrats did that by raising nary a whisper over the last four years?

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    Another Ian

    Jo

    There was “out of order number” posting going on about #40 here earlier today and some of those look to have “done the varnishing trick”

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    Another Ian

    “Biden’s Great Leap Forward: A split second in Wisconsin”

    “In summary: With the ballot count approaching 3 million out of a total of less than 3.3 million recorded, the worst presidential candidate in history, who could barely get his tired body across the Delaware state line for a 60-person “rally,” at 3:42 A.M. on the night of the election bagged a net of 118,215 votes in a single massive data dump to take a narrow lead. And that lead then just stayed nice and steady till the count slowly finished eight days later.

    The statistical word for this is bullfeathers.”

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/bidens_great_leap_forward_a_split_second_in_wisconsin.html

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    Another Ian

    Hi Jo

    I just opened this thread. Brought up comments to #39.

    No change on refresh.

    No change on entering name and email and refreshing.

    We’ll see what posting does

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    Rick Kinsman

    Well, you could have guessed it. Without proper supervision, the Democrat-run recounts are up to exactly the same dirty tricks they used the first time around. They’re blocking Republican scrutineers from observing the count.
    Now this just goes to prove that they are cheating. If they have nothing to hide, why are they trying so hard to hide what they’re doing?

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    Another Ian

    Hi Jo

    More gremlins

    ” Opened 2.7 million” and got to #39 again

    And the only available other thread showing is “Testing 123” – nothing forward of “2.7 mill”

    Will see what goes when I post this.

    And i haven’t gotten used to having to log in at each new start yet – observation only.

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      Another Ian

      Now I can see “The Kracken” and this thread up to #60

      Now to check “The Kracken”

      Incidentally that is the name of a rum one of our boys has on his drinks list. Not bad either.

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    PeterS

    Still having issues posting here.

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    Another Ian

    Testing @ #39

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      Another Ian

      Jo

      More funnies

      When I started up this was the latest thread and it showed comments to #39 – as with previous starts and earlier threads.

      Now #53 and later threads showing.

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    Tim Whittle

    Hi Jo,
    I’m dying for an update!
    For those interested on some of the Legal argument around this, Daisy Cousens has an excellent video!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhJdFSFaZQA

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    Another Ian

    Testing to advance

    Site still opens at “2.7 million” thread as latest

    Shows (IIRC) 105 comments but only 39 when opened

    No further comment here if I advance

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    Susan Corwin

    It is very simple: China.
    They don’t like the current administration so they “spread” something that is not as bad a the flu,
    and “lock down” everything while they talk-talk-talk about how bad it is.

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    Another Ian

    Post to get updated from here at #39

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    Nick T

    As of 16/11/2020 13:50 This is the latest thread I can see using microsoft edge> The last comment is #39

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    CHRIS

    Allegedly, Biden won the popular vote by more than 4 million votes. This is a significant gap. Trump and his legal team had better come up with some hard evidence of fraud, otherwise I’ll accept that Trump is an egomaniacal sociopath. I’m waiting, Donald……

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    Another Ian

    entry test

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    Aussieute

    AEC Electoral Reforms of concern when you see who they “appear” to be cozying up to
    Think it’s not an issue that needs to be stopped in its tracks?
    Then think again
    Ignore it at our peril

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    Justin

    The Kraken stirs 🙂

    Scott Adams “For many of you, your understanding of reality is about to change”

    I think we have been in an information war for many years now, I seem to live in an alternative reality from many of my friends. I cant even seem to share facts to engage in a discussion, it just becomes a battle of wills?

    Regards
    Justin

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    Bodge it an Scarpa

    Hijklm

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    Ross yandle

    I’m reading that if the election gets hung up then ea state has 1 vote early in the Presidential race This gives the title to Trump

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    Another Ian

    Starting up

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    Another Ian

    thread entry

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    Steve C

    There was a humdinger of a link on the ChiefIO’s site a day or two ago which, if true, says “Game Over”. It should raise a few spirits here, so Share and Enjoy!
    https://www.distributednews.com/474016.html

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    TimG

    Give me a friggen break.

    The “red mirage” was predicted by many before election day because of the partisan differences between those who planned to use mail in ballots and those who did not. There is absolutely nothing irregular or unexpected about the late Biden swings in states that counted mail in ballots after election day. In states like Ohio that counted them first you saw Biden racking up big leads during the initial count only to see that disappear as the in person vote was counted. See this article published Oct29th: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-pennsylvanias-vote-count-could-change-after-election-night/

    I am tired of people who I used to think were analytical and not prone to flights of fancy are so willing to buy Trump’s BS. Think about it: Trump has been claiming, without a shred of evidence, that there massive election fraud for the last 5 years. It was a psychological tactic to ensure that if he did lose he could scream fraud. Now his supporters are running around trying manufacture evidence to support the claim.

    That is not how it should work. An honest person starts with the assumption that the election was fair and only changes their mind once evidence is found. Starting with the assumption that the election was rigged and then work to manufacture evidence partisan nonsense. Stop being a stooge for Trump’s ego and move on to topics that matter like pushing back against nonsensical green policies.

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    TimG

    The 6000 votes glitch was human error. The wrong data file was loaded into the machine in one county.
    It was caught almost immediately which proves the checks and balances worked as expected.

    The machines themselves are spot checked constantly with runs of 400 votes or so which are compared to a hand count. Georgia is in the middle of a hand recount and many counties are reporting exactly the same results from the hand count as the machine count. One 800 vote error was found but it was, again, a human error and the polling officer responsible has already been fired.

    There is no credible basis for claiming systematic fraud.

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      But as Sidney Powell said, who got the servers == the good guys or the bad guys.?

      Is this just CIA doing ass covering? If they were good guys you’d thinjk the Trump team would know…

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